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13 hours ago, BMart519 said:

36 putts in practice mode, first 5-50ft increasing then analysis mode. Only 3/36 putts outside the 3’ ring...

and they were all inside the 6’ ring at roughy 4, 5, and 6’... could be something to this thing  

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Definitely something to this thing 👍

It's sooooo helpful for practicing stroke + distance control!

Unfortunately I've set mine aside for a few weeks while moving / re-arranging stuff throughout the house .. but setup a new spot in the basement for it so ready to get back to working with it. 

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Summer time and the putting’s easy. 
 

other than 1 little blip in there...

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Summer time and the putting’s easy. 
 
other than 1 little blip in there...
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If it is summer, greens should be faster or are you a dew sweeper? [emoji23]

Wish I could figure out some value in those other modes;
I spend all my time in practice mode working on line and distance control. If I could manually set the slope it would be perfect. Guess I’ll need to save up for a putt view system or hope a future release of the exputt adds that capability.
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7 minutes ago, cnosil said:

If I could manually set the slope it would be perfect. 

Yes! That was one of my "would be nice to have" comments in my review, also. Would be really helpful to be able to practice sidehill putts in either direction, and then downhill + sidehill sliders!

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8 hours ago, cnosil said:


If it is summer, greens should be faster or are you a dew sweeper? emoji23.png

Wish I could figure out some value in those other modes;
I spend all my time in practice mode working on line and distance control. If I could manually set the slope it would be perfect. Guess I’ll need to save up for a putt view system or hope a future release of the exputt adds that capability.

I play some cheap muni courses... Summer was the difficulty setting. March and April golf 2 hours north of the US border is always slow greens. Even mid-season, the nicest public clubs in the city will only get up to 10-11 maximum for maybe 1 month (8-9 is much more common). It is difficult to maintain greens at that level in a dry, cold climate and the courses don't want to invest the money. 

I found charts with stimp adjustments for uphill/downhill putts based on % slope. They allow me to calculate an equivalent distance for flat putts. Ie. a 33' putt that is 1' downhill plays similar to a 23' flat putt. I hope this helps me with elevation changes on the course this year. 

The Play 9 mode then becomes a random number generator for distances and calculate uphill/downhill. (I set all putts to straight with the hints feature in Play 9.) My most used setting is 5-50ft increasing putts in practice mode, spent time on 5-10 footers yesterday for start line. 

I prefer a yard stick for start line and alignment, but 5-10 ft practice mode works OK. 

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1 hour ago, BMart519 said:

I found charts with stimp adjustments for uphill/downhill putts based on % slope. They allow me to calculate an equivalent distance for flat putts. Ie. a 33' putt that is 1' downhill plays similar to a 23' flat putt. I hope this helps me with elevation changes on the course this year. 

Are you going to share where you found them?  🙂

 

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Don’t remember the source 

 

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Don’t remember the source 
 
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Thanks. Found the source - tweet from aimpoint golf April 2017. Interesting information, now I have to figure out how to apply it. After a quick look I feel like I would be digging through notes to figure out the effective distance based on slope. Has to be a fast way to do no this on course. Right now I take an experience based guess which seems to do okay most of the time. 30 footers with a decent amount of slope seem to be a problem area for me.
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If you Google ..

"golf adjustments for uphill/downhill putts based on % slope"

..and switch to "Images" you'll see a number of charts and tables, in different formats from different sources. 

TMI!! 😉

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If you Google ..
"golf adjustments for uphill/downhill putts based on % slope"
..and switch to "Images" you'll see a number of charts and tables, in different formats from different sources. 
TMI!! [emoji6]

I’ll have to do a more thorough look when I can get on a computer. The charts I see related to that search are about break not length adjustments.
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6 hours ago, cksurfdude said:

If you Google ..

"golf adjustments for uphill/downhill putts based on % slope"

..and switch to "Images" you'll see a number of charts and tables, in different formats from different sources. 

TMI!! 😉

Did some searches and found a formula to calculate.   Slope X Stimp = % to add or subract from putt length.   

10 foot putt on 10 stimp green with 3% uphill slope would be the equivalent of a 13 foot putt. 

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1 hour ago, cnosil said:

Did some searches and found a formula to calculate.   Slope X Stimp = % to add or subract from putt length.   

10 foot putt on 10 stimp green with 3% uphill slope would be the equivalent of a 13 foot putt. 

Oh yeah .. it's a bit of a "rabbit hole" when you start to dig in! Some good stuff, tho!

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On 3/29/2021 at 6:41 AM, cnosil said:


Thanks. Found the source - tweet from aimpoint golf April 2017. Interesting information, now I have to figure out how to apply it. After a quick look I feel like I would be digging through notes to figure out the effective distance based on slope. Has to be a fast way to do no this on course. Right now I take an experience based guess which seems to do okay most of the time. 30 footers with a decent amount of slope seem to be a problem area for me.

I've been using Exputt on stimp 7 and only looked at the 8 stimp numbers. I averaged it out to 11% downhill and 9% uphill since 5% slopes and above is rare. I round this to 10% per 1% of slope and it has been working well in Exputt. 

Need to experiment at 10 stimp, guessing 13% downhill and 9 uphill... But will first verify how off the ballpark assumption of 10 for both works at this level. Hoping to actually use this on the course this weekend as well. 

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5 hours ago, BMart519 said:

I've been using Exputt on stimp 7 and only looked at the 8 stimp numbers. I averaged it out to 11% downhill and 9% uphill since 5% slopes and above is rare. I round this to 10% per 1% of slope and it has been working well in Exputt. 

Need to experiment at 10 stimp, guessing 13% downhill and 9 uphill... But will first verify how off the ballpark assumption of 10 for both works at this level. Hoping to actually use this on the course this weekend as well. 

Curious to hear if you find an easy-to-follow, workable on course solution! 

Side note: downhill putts .. most of the time .. I try to guage the adjusted distance to the zero (or fall) line to the hole, and obviously factoring for amount of break and green speed. Kinda un-scientific but it's been working decently for me.

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4 hours ago, cksurfdude said:

Curious to hear if you find an easy-to-follow, workable on course solution! 

Side note: downhill putts .. most of the time .. I try to guage the adjusted distance to the zero (or fall) line to the hole, and obviously factoring for amount of break and green speed. Kinda un-scientific but it's been working decently for me.

I read about vector putting and wanted to try this... I use aimpoint express on course which points you in the area of the fall line and then visualize my target either closer to me for downhill or past the hole for flat and uphill putts along the aimpoint line. 

Thinking about this in my head, that would assume the amount of break only depends on slope or that line of zero break which would conflict with the impacts of green speed from these charts. Will be interesting to test both methods... If the weather holds, I'll play my first 18 on Monday. Fingers crossed I can try it out. 

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On 3/29/2021 at 2:56 PM, cnosil said:

Did some searches and found a formula to calculate.   Slope X Stimp = % to add or subract from putt length.   

10 foot putt on 10 stimp green with 3% uphill slope would be the equivalent of a 13 foot putt. 

I played around with 15% per percent on Exputt and it was usually pretty close. This would give 14’6” on a 10’ putt with 3% uphill slope. Doing some rough math on the aimpoint chart I posted would extrapolate out to 18-19% for 12 stimp. Would be interesting to see how 20% worked at that speed. 
 

disclaimer - tonight was the first time I used stimp 10 and any speed setting other than 7. But I started with some calibration work on 5-50 footers in practice mode to develop some feels. 

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11 hours ago, cksurfdude said:

Curious to hear if you find an easy-to-follow, workable on course solution! 

Side note: downhill putts .. most of the time .. I try to guage the adjusted distance to the zero (or fall) line to the hole, and obviously factoring for amount of break and green speed. Kinda un-scientific but it's been working decently for me.

This has been my strategy, for the most part. I go to the practice green and find a flat 10 foot putt to calibrate. On course I step off my putt and then do some rough guessing, like, "Twelve feet, slightly uphill, playing 15."

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8 hours ago, edingc said:

This has been my strategy, for the most part. I go to the practice green and find a flat 10 foot putt to calibrate. On course I step off my putt and then do some rough guessing, like, "Twelve feet, slightly uphill, playing 15."

I like to use this chart, since using the ExPutt got me used to thinking about my putts in terms of ball speed. I'll use a flat section of the practice green and hit a few 5mph putts to get an idea of the green speed, and then when I'm on the course I can pace out a putt distance, use the appropriate column for green speed, and get an idea of what kind of ball speed I need on the putt. The discussion here about adjusting for slope has been super helpful - being able to use slope x stimp to get a "putts like" distance should help me bring this to the next level. Maybe I should just put my TI-89 in my golf bag!

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I think it's working...

Current active streak of 47 holes with no 3 putts, which I am sure I just jinxed and will proceed to break next time out. Which includes a 2 putt from 90 and 75' during my last round of 18. Down to 33.5 putts/rd versus 34.5-35 last season and that includes 4x 3 putts on my first 9 holes of the year before the current streak started. 

Averaged 2.5 3-putts per round last year, so I am trending nicely towards an average of one 3-putt or less per round. 

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I think it's working...

Current active streak of 47 holes with no 3 putts, which I am sure I just jinxed and will proceed to break next time out. Which includes a 2 putt from 90 and 75' during my last round of 18. Down to 33.5 putts/rd versus 34.5-35 last season and that includes 4x 3 putts on my first 9 holes of the year before the current streak started. 

Averaged 2.5 3-putts per round last year, so I am trending nicely towards an average of one 3-putt or less per round. 

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