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So I've had a set of Edison wedges for about three weeks now, and have been alternating between using those and the new Cleveland ZipCore wedges. Have a few impressions to share on the Edison's - and the ZipCores, for that matter. 

First the Edison wedges:

My set makeup is 49-53-57, as determined by Edison's WedgeFit section on their website. Had mine built 1.5 degrees flat with midsize grips and KBS Tour 105 shafts in stiff. I've probably played 4 rounds with them - enough to reach a few conclusions:

1. Feel is exceptional - I know it's not an indicator of performance, but you know it when you hit is perfectly and you know it when you don't. They do provide the feedback you need. 

2. When you don't hit it perfect, you aren't overly punished. That's the real story with Edison - they're pretty forgiving. There's plenty of weight high on the face (my "miss"), and with other wedges there's a noticeable loss of both distance and spin. You'll still lose some distancer and spin with Edison, but not nearly as much. It's basically the difference between the front of the green and the front bunker. 

Edison_Wedge_guaranty - 6.jpg

3. These do create spin. Hit a low spinner Sunday from about 40 yards that actually felt a bit thin, but it hopped twice and then stopped dead, about 12 feet from the pin. Of course, I missed the putt.  Damn wedge!

4. When it comes to full shots, I prefer these over the Cleveland's - very consistent and solid. Partial shots around the green the Edison V-sole takes some getting used to. There's no real "bounce" on them, so you do have to learn how to manipulate the club for each shot you're trying to hit. Cleveland also has a V-sole, but it's not as pronounced as Edison, making the wedge more conventional. If that's what you're used to, it may take you a while to get used to the Edison. I know a  lot of Score and original Hogan TK-15 wedge users have reported similar experiences. 

Edison_Wedge_guaranty - 1.jpg

5. Not sure what to make of Edison's new Money-Back guaranty policy. They'll custom-build you a set of wedges, and you can play them for as long as you need to - Terry Koehler says 4 to 6 rounds should be enough - and if you see an improvement, keep them.  If you don't like them, send them back and he'll refund your money.

The website says the limit is 45 days, but Terry says 4 to 6 rounds, however long that takes. I'm sure there will be a little give and take, but if you're intrigued by the wedges, it's not a bad proposition at all - if you're willing to take that leap of faith.  The good news is Koehler isn't some newbie to the industry - he's been around a while and does have a bit of street cred in certain circles. He has a lot of friends in the business, as well as some enemies, and he's pretty outspoken and irreverent, which can rub people the wrong way. 

But he does make a pretty good wedge. 

Edison_Wedge_guaranty - 2.jpg

6. My plan to keep them in the bag and relearn how to use the V-sole. My best short game came while playing the Hogan TK-15's, but as I recall it did take a while to get the hang of that sole around the green. It'll give me something to do for the rest of the summer. 😉

Edison_Wedge_guaranty - 5.jpg

Cleveland ZipCore Impressions:

1. Feel, performance are noticeably different from the RTX-4, at least for me. RTX-4 is a really good wedge, but the feel was always a bit harsh for me. Whatever it is about ZipCore, Cleveland improved the feel considerably.

2. Full shots - acceptable, but not as acceptable as the Edison's. That could be a combination of things - maybe the shaft, maybe the CG - but the Edison's performed better on full shots. Again, I did like the ZipCore's much more than RTX-4 on full shots. 

Cleveland_RTX_ZipCore_wedge - 1.jpg

3. Around the green - ZipCore really shines. Plenty of spin, easy to manipulate the face, can hit 'em high, low, with spin or with run fairly easily. 

4. It might just be the finish, but the face on the ZipCore just looks larger than the RTX face. I'm sure it's an illusion, but it was pretty startling the first time I tried them. 

Cleveland_RTX_ZipCore_wedge - 6.jpg

5. Satin finish is nice, but I'm really looking forward to the black finish they're planning for later this year. 

6. Cleveland's thing is groove technology. They do Rotex milling, they have microgrooves, and they push the boundaries when it comes to depth, spacing and sharpness. There's definitely more groove tech here than with the Edison wedges, and it's noticeable on partial shots, chips and pitches. 

Cleveland_RTX_ZipCore_wedge - 12.jpg

Any questions on the Edisons or the Clevelands, fire away...

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What is your zipcore makeup and why did you choose the bounces you did?

Also - what do you think of the new shaft.
This is what Cleveland says:
"Dynamic Gold Spinner gives you everything you love in a Tour Issue wedge shaft—stability, control, and consistency—but it’s built to help you generate extra spin and tour-level stopping power. It’s an entirely new offering from True Temper with a similar profile to Dynamic Gold S200 but specifically designed for wedge play."
Do you like/dislike/notice any difference?

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10 minutes ago, GolfSpy Stroker said:

What is your zipcore makeup and why did you choose the bounces you did?

Also - what do you think of the new shaft.
This is what Cleveland says:
"Dynamic Gold Spinner gives you everything you love in a Tour Issue wedge shaft—stability, control, and consistency—but it’s built to help you generate extra spin and tour-level stopping power. It’s an entirely new offering from True Temper with a similar profile to Dynamic Gold S200 but specifically designed for wedge play."
Do you like/dislike/notice any difference?

ZipCore is 52-56-60, all standard bounce - it was the sample set they sent for the release article. That makeup didn't really fit my gamers loftwise, but I don't think I would have chosen a different bounce option in any case.  Now that I think on it, one of the reasons I prefer the Edison's on full shots is the fact they're 1.5 degrees flat, while the Cleveland's are standard lie. The devil is always in the details.

I do like the shaft - haven't really had enough work with it on full shots to give an evaluation, though. It's obviously a good bit heavier than the KBS 105, but the KBS does spin adequately for me on full shots. More work is needed on that...

More disclosure - while the Clevelands are samples sent for the first look article, I did buy the Edison wedges. 

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It's so funny - having not paid much attention to wedges for a while (because I love my SCORs so much), I've started to of late, (because time marches on and the SCORs are getting long in the tooth.)  I have a set of Hogan TKs in the closet, I bought them on the cheap, but I'm not in love with them so I've developed a wandering eye.  I currently bag 13 clubs so this will allow a slot for an additional wedge and I've thought that I would start with something very bouncy (I'm not great out of the sand as I've probably demonstrated when we've played together.)

 

Intuitively I knew this was a Terry Koehler project the second I saw the name Edison - man I've become a golf geek. 🙂

 

So my question, in regards to the 1.5 flat v. neutral I'm curious if you could quantify the difference in accuracy or dispersion.  I'm generally 2 flat and am currently testing Wilson D7's v. my PIng G30's and the D7's are getting trounced.  I tried Foz's D7's pre-pandemic and hit them great but am also thinking that his were 2 degrees flat (he and I generally play to similar specs in our equipment).   Even though that's not a wedge thing reading this here makes me wonder if I shouldn't get the 7 iron bent 2 flat and retest it v. the Ping.  For now though could you give us an idea of the differences that you are experiencing upright verses flat?

 

Thanks as always, old man.  

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you mentioned you like the Edison on full shots and the Zipcores around the green - would you consider a combination of both or do you like to have matching wedges?

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22 minutes ago, revkev said:

It's so funny - having not paid much attention to wedges for a while (because I love my SCORs so much), I've started to of late, (because time marches on and the SCORs are getting long in the tooth.)  I have a set of Hogan TKs in the closet, I bought them on the cheap, but I'm not in love with them so I've developed a wandering eye.  I currently bag 13 clubs so this will allow a slot for an additional wedge and I've thought that I would start with something very bouncy (I'm not great out of the sand as I've probably demonstrated when we've played together.)

 

Intuitively I knew this was a Terry Koehler project the second I saw the name Edison - man I've become a golf geek. 🙂

 

So my question, in regards to the 1.5 flat v. neutral I'm curious if you could quantify the difference in accuracy or dispersion.  I'm generally 2 flat and am currently testing Wilson D7's v. my PIng G30's and the D7's are getting trounced.  I tried Foz's D7's pre-pandemic and hit them great but am also thinking that his were 2 degrees flat (he and I generally play to similar specs in our equipment).   Even though that's not a wedge thing reading this here makes me wonder if I shouldn't get the 7 iron bent 2 flat and retest it v. the Ping.  For now though could you give us an idea of the differences that you are experiencing upright verses flat?

 

Thanks as always, old man.  

Old man???  What old man???

Found this chart online:

golf-club-lie-angle-990x556.jpg

Kinda fits for me - found with the Clevelands, being too upright for me, my misses would be more left than anything. Also found  the right lie has made for more consistent overall ball striking, especially since my irons are 1.5 flat as well. Going from a bit flat to standard lie may have been part of the full shot problem. 

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11 minutes ago, GolfSpy Stroker said:

you mentioned you like the Edison on full shots and the Zipcores around the green - would you consider a combination of both or do you like to have matching wedges?

Actually did play a mixed set Sunday - Edison 49 and 53, Cleveland 60. Seemed to work okay.

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@ Barbajo - thanks - I knew that too upright equaled ball going left and sometimes significantly so.  I had not contemplated that it might make a difference in ball striking - I've just generally noticed that if I use an iron whose lie is standard I will hit lots of shots left - doesn't bother me when demoing them but now I'm wondering if I'm getting a fair picture of those D7's.  I was also concerned that their shafts are shorter but I'm reading in the Hogan test thread that this is now standard practice with newer graphite shafted irons because they are able to keep the swing weights up without lengthening the shafts - it should also tighten dispersion but I'm not seeing that - however I'm also not seeing less distance - its just inconsistent ball striking and lots of shots going left.  

 

In regards to wedges I've generally played my most lofted one standard and the others flat - I will almost never hit a 58 or 60 full.  If I have to I"m willing to accept 15 feet left of target because there's generally something difficult about the shot in the first place - pin in a tight spot with trouble in front and behind it - I find I'm  better at executing shots around the green and out of traps with the more upright lie.

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5 hours ago, GolfSpy Barbajo said:

So I've had a set of Edison wedges for about three weeks now, and have been alternating between using those and the new Cleveland ZipCore wedges. Have a few impressions to share on the Edison's - and the ZipCores, for that matter. 

First the Edison wedges:

My set makeup is 49-53-57, as determined by Edison's WedgeFit section on their website. Had mine built 1.5 degrees flat with midsize grips and KBS Tour 105 shafts in stiff. I've probably played 4 rounds with them - enough to reach a few conclusions:

1. Feel is exceptional - I know it's not an indicator of performance, but you know it when you hit is perfectly and you know it when you don't. They do provide the feedback you need. 

2. When you don't hit it perfect, you aren't overly punished. That's the real story with Edison - they're pretty forgiving. There's plenty of weight high on the face (my "miss"), and with other wedges there's a noticeable loss of both distance and spin. You'll still lose some distancer and spin with Edison, but not nearly as much. It's basically the difference between the front of the green and the front bunker. 

Edison_Wedge_guaranty - 6.jpg

3. These do create spin. Hit a low spinner Sunday from about 40 yards that actually felt a bit thin, but it hopped twice and then stopped dead, about 12 feet from the pin. Of course, I missed the putt.  Damn wedge!

4. When it comes to full shots, I prefer these over the Cleveland's - very consistent and solid. Partial shots around the green the Edison V-sole takes some getting used to. There's no real "bounce" on them, so you do have to learn how to manipulate the club for each shot you're trying to hit. Cleveland also has a V-sole, but it's not as pronounced as Edison, making the wedge more conventional. If that's what you're used to, it may take you a while to get used to the Edison. I know a  lot of Score and original Hogan TK-15 wedge users have reported similar experiences. 

Edison_Wedge_guaranty - 1.jpg

5. Not sure what to make of Edison's new Money-Back guaranty policy. They'll custom-build you a set of wedges, and you can play them for as long as you need to - Terry Koehler says 4 to 6 rounds should be enough - and if you see an improvement, keep them.  If you don't like them, send them back and he'll refund your money.

The website says the limit is 45 days, but Terry says 4 to 6 rounds, however long that takes. I'm sure there will be a little give and take, but if you're intrigued by the wedges, it's not a bad proposition at all - if you're willing to take that leap of faith.  The good news is Koehler isn't some newbie to the industry - he's been around a while and does have a bit of street cred in certain circles. He has a lot of friends in the business, as well as some enemies, and he's pretty outspoken and irreverent, which can rub people the wrong way. 

But he does make a pretty good wedge. 

Edison_Wedge_guaranty - 2.jpg

6. My plan to keep them in the bag and relearn how to use the V-sole. My best short game came while playing the Hogan TK-15's, but as I recall it did take a while to get the hang of that sole around the green. It'll give me something to do for the rest of the summer. 😉

Edison_Wedge_guaranty - 5.jpg

Cleveland ZipCore Impressions:

1. Feel, performance are noticeably different from the RTX-4, at least for me. RTX-4 is a really good wedge, but the feel was always a bit harsh for me. Whatever it is about ZipCore, Cleveland improved the feel considerably.

2. Full shots - acceptable, but not as acceptable as the Edison's. That could be a combination of things - maybe the shaft, maybe the CG - but the Edison's performed better on full shots. Again, I did like the ZipCore's much more than RTX-4 on full shots. 

Cleveland_RTX_ZipCore_wedge - 1.jpg

3. Around the green - ZipCore really shines. Plenty of spin, easy to manipulate the face, can hit 'em high, low, with spin or with run fairly easily. 

4. It might just be the finish, but the face on the ZipCore just looks larger than the RTX face. I'm sure it's an illusion, but it was pretty startling the first time I tried them. 

Cleveland_RTX_ZipCore_wedge - 6.jpg

5. Satin finish is nice, but I'm really looking forward to the black finish they're planning for later this year. 

6. Cleveland's thing is groove technology. They do Rotex milling, they have microgrooves, and they push the boundaries when it comes to depth, spacing and sharpness. There's definitely more groove tech here than with the Edison wedges, and it's noticeable on partial shots, chips and pitches. 

Cleveland_RTX_ZipCore_wedge - 12.jpg

Any questions on the Edisons or the Clevelands, fire away...

Thanks for sharing your experiences/reviews. Few questions. What is it about the V-sole that "takes getting used to"? Is your divot pattern different? Take more turf, less turf? 

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9 hours ago, GolfSpy Barbajo said:

So I've had a set of Edison wedges for about three weeks now, and have been alternating between using those and the new Cleveland ZipCore wedges. Have a few impressions to share on the Edison's - and the ZipCores, for that matter. 

First the Edison wedges:

My set makeup is 49-53-57, as determined by Edison's WedgeFit section on their website. Had mine built 1.5 degrees flat with midsize grips and KBS Tour 105 shafts in stiff. I've probably played 4 rounds with them - enough to reach a few conclusions:

1. Feel is exceptional - I know it's not an indicator of performance, but you know it when you hit is perfectly and you know it when you don't. They do provide the feedback you need. 

2. When you don't hit it perfect, you aren't overly punished. That's the real story with Edison - they're pretty forgiving. There's plenty of weight high on the face (my "miss"), and with other wedges there's a noticeable loss of both distance and spin. You'll still lose some distancer and spin with Edison, but not nearly as much. It's basically the difference between the front of the green and the front bunker. 

Edison_Wedge_guaranty - 6.jpg

3. These do create spin. Hit a low spinner Sunday from about 40 yards that actually felt a bit thin, but it hopped twice and then stopped dead, about 12 feet from the pin. Of course, I missed the putt.  Damn wedge!

4. When it comes to full shots, I prefer these over the Cleveland's - very consistent and solid. Partial shots around the green the Edison V-sole takes some getting used to. There's no real "bounce" on them, so you do have to learn how to manipulate the club for each shot you're trying to hit. Cleveland also has a V-sole, but it's not as pronounced as Edison, making the wedge more conventional. If that's what you're used to, it may take you a while to get used to the Edison. I know a  lot of Score and original Hogan TK-15 wedge users have reported similar experiences. 

Edison_Wedge_guaranty - 1.jpg

5. Not sure what to make of Edison's new Money-Back guaranty policy. They'll custom-build you a set of wedges, and you can play them for as long as you need to - Terry Koehler says 4 to 6 rounds should be enough - and if you see an improvement, keep them.  If you don't like them, send them back and he'll refund your money.

The website says the limit is 45 days, but Terry says 4 to 6 rounds, however long that takes. I'm sure there will be a little give and take, but if you're intrigued by the wedges, it's not a bad proposition at all - if you're willing to take that leap of faith.  The good news is Koehler isn't some newbie to the industry - he's been around a while and does have a bit of street cred in certain circles. He has a lot of friends in the business, as well as some enemies, and he's pretty outspoken and irreverent, which can rub people the wrong way. 

But he does make a pretty good wedge. 

Edison_Wedge_guaranty - 2.jpg

6. My plan to keep them in the bag and relearn how to use the V-sole. My best short game came while playing the Hogan TK-15's, but as I recall it did take a while to get the hang of that sole around the green. It'll give me something to do for the rest of the summer. 😉

Edison_Wedge_guaranty - 5.jpg

Cleveland ZipCore Impressions:

1. Feel, performance are noticeably different from the RTX-4, at least for me. RTX-4 is a really good wedge, but the feel was always a bit harsh for me. Whatever it is about ZipCore, Cleveland improved the feel considerably.

2. Full shots - acceptable, but not as acceptable as the Edison's. That could be a combination of things - maybe the shaft, maybe the CG - but the Edison's performed better on full shots. Again, I did like the ZipCore's much more than RTX-4 on full shots. 

Cleveland_RTX_ZipCore_wedge - 1.jpg

3. Around the green - ZipCore really shines. Plenty of spin, easy to manipulate the face, can hit 'em high, low, with spin or with run fairly easily. 

4. It might just be the finish, but the face on the ZipCore just looks larger than the RTX face. I'm sure it's an illusion, but it was pretty startling the first time I tried them. 

Cleveland_RTX_ZipCore_wedge - 6.jpg

5. Satin finish is nice, but I'm really looking forward to the black finish they're planning for later this year. 

6. Cleveland's thing is groove technology. They do Rotex milling, they have microgrooves, and they push the boundaries when it comes to depth, spacing and sharpness. There's definitely more groove tech here than with the Edison wedges, and it's noticeable on partial shots, chips and pitches. 

Cleveland_RTX_ZipCore_wedge - 12.jpg

Any questions on the Edisons or the Clevelands, fire away...

The Zipcore have a unique milling pattern; particularly the toe area.  I wonder what their science is behind it?

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20 hours ago, aerospace_ray said:

Thanks for sharing your experiences/reviews. Few questions. What is it about the V-sole that "takes getting used to"? Is your divot pattern different? Take more turf, less turf? 

Finding the Edisons easier to hit on full shots - maybe it's the weighting, maybe it's the sole, but since taking a couple of rounds to adapt, I can't say I've hit anything terrible "fat" recently, and the divots are nice little patches as opposed to big chunks of turf.  Can't really explain why I find them easier to hit other than the higher CG and greater hi-low MOI. the ZipCores are noticeably better than the RTX-4 in this respect, but I would say the Edisons are even more forgiving. That higher CG also helps with spin.

Worked with the V-sole better during my round yesterday. It's hard to explain, but the bounce is just plain weird with Edison - the V-sole is fairly pronounced so it takes some practice to figure out how to hit different shots. I'm finding it relatively easy to hit decent flops with the 57, and the 53 is my go-to wedge for 20 to 40 yard spinners.  They hop a couple of times and come to a screeching halt. I guess the best answer is the sole is different enough - bounce-wise - to require some time to adapt. Felt like I was getting the hang of it yesterday.  Not sure that's a terribly specific answer, but it's the best I got...

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16 hours ago, fixyurdivot said:

The Zipcore have a unique milling pattern; particularly the toe area.  I wonder what their science is behind it?

Lots and lots of grooves to shed moisture, dirt and grass. 

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19 minutes ago, GolfSpy Barbajo said:

Finding the Edisons easier to hit on full shots - maybe it's the weighting, maybe it's the sole, but since taking a couple of rounds to adapt, I can't say I've hit anything terrible "fat" recently, and the divots are nice little patches as opposed to big chunks of turf.  Can't really explain why I find them easier to hit other than the higher CG and greater hi-low MOI. the ZipCores are noticeably better than the RTX-4 in this respect, but I would say the Edisons are even more forgiving. That higher CG also helps with spin.

Worked with the V-sole better during my round yesterday. It's hard to explain, but the bounce is just plain weird with Edison - the V-sole is fairly pronounced so it takes some practice to figure out how to hit different shots. I'm finding it relatively easy to hit decent flops with the 57, and the 53 is my go-to wedge for 20 to 40 yard spinners.  They hop a couple of times and come to a screeching halt. I guess the best answer is the sole is different enough - bounce-wise - to require some time to adapt. Felt like I was getting the hang of it yesterday.  Not sure that's a terribly specific answer, but it's the best I got...

Thanks for updates. Now I am interested............ Last thing I need right now --- more wedges 😃

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Thanks for sharing your experiences/reviews. Few questions. What is it about the V-sole that "takes getting used to"? Is your divot pattern different? Take more turf, less turf? 


I can answer this one as I was one of the early guys to make the switch. With a traditional sole you are using the bounce for short shots around the green. It’s no where near as pronounced with the V-sole unless you open the blade - then you have a ton of bounce. There’s a pronounced difference in turf interaction on full shots as well.

They are extremely versatile but it does take a bit of time to get used to them.


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Ping G410 - set at 12 degrees, fade setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex

Ping G410 5-9 wood

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It’s probably just me but I love the look of those KBS tour graphite shafts. I noticed them in the senior tour event today and see they offer them in the Edison’s


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43 minutes ago, revkev said:

 


I can answer this one as I was one of the early guys to make the switch. With a traditional sole you are using the bounce for short shots around the green. It’s no where near as pronounced with the V-sole unless you open the blade - then you have a ton of bounce. There’s a pronounced difference in turf interaction on full shots as well.

They are extremely versatile but it does take a bit of time to get used to them.


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Have you hit any short shots out of fluffy rough high on the face of the Edisons?  I've slid the club right under the ball so many times, hit it high off the face and had it go nowhere.  I'd love something that would help out with those.

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On 7/25/2020 at 4:46 PM, revkev said:

It’s probably just me but I love the look of those KBS tour graphite shafts. I noticed them in the senior tour event today and see they offer them in the Edison’s


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I'm working on a project with the KBS TGI 80's - I'll let you know how it works out. 😉

 

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Hybrids:  PXG 0311 22
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On 7/25/2020 at 10:58 PM, HardcoreLooper said:

Have you hit any short shots out of fluffy rough high on the face of the Edisons?  I've slid the club right under the ball so many times, hit it high off the face and had it go nowhere.  I'd love something that would help out with those.

I think you'll find the Edison's will help, but not necessarily cure, that particular issue.  Hitting a wedge is such a glancing blow anyway, and fluffy lies high on the face make it even moreso. The added high mass does help...to the point that instead of dumping it in the trap in front of the green, you may very well carry the trap, So you got that going for your. Which is nice...

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Hybrids:  PXG 0311 22
Utility Irons: :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model Utilities 18, 21, 24*;  Lynx VT Stinger - 16*
Irons::wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged; :benhogan-small:PTx Pro, :macgregor-small: VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; :wilson_staff_small: Progressives (circa 1993)

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Nice snapshot of both wedges!  I tested the RTX4 wedges last summer for MGS and absolutely loved them and didn't find them harsh at all but feel is so subjunctive though 😄.  I may have to swing the Zipcores for a comparison.

 

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