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4 hours ago, Tom the Golf Nut said:

Well it was Christmas in July today. 🤩  Got home from looking at a college with my daughter and there was a present at my front door!  Great packaging for the clubs, better than anything else I have received from other companies in the past. The box is even first class. The slogan on the box reads "Expectations Redefined". Other than the clubs there were also other surprises in the box as well. A hand written note from Jason at Sub 70, a nice hat, and a sticker for my car.  

Each clubhead was wrapped in plastic and each one had the clubs specks on a label. 

First impressions: I was expecting a slightly smaller club head in length compared to my game improvement Irons. This was not the case. So one of my concerns turned out not to be one 😃. The offset is less which was expected but isn't much of a concern for me. You can see a side by side comparison below. Craftsmanship was perfect. I did not find any flaws throughout the set.  A few swings in the living room and everything felt and looked good.

I am working on a loft comparison chart. Game improvement irons are always strong lofted. So I want to be taking everything into consideration during the testing. 

Everything was starting off on a good note until I unwrapped the last club (Don't worry). Then there was a crack of thunder and then the skies opened up. My planned run over to the driving range came to a halt. At least it gave me time to put this post together.

Testing starts on Sunday. I have a golf tournament tomorrow and I think it best to get more familiarity with the new sticks before I put them in play (But I want to so badly). I'm trying to squash the demon on my shoulder telling me to put them in the bag! 

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All class from Sub70. Those look super nice! So looking forward to all of your reviews! #SubClub

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In my bag:

Driver:  :Hogan: Ben Hogan GS53 10.5* Stiff Mitsubishi tensei blue

3 Wood: :adams-small: Insight BUL Stiff

Hybrid:  :Sub70: 939x Hybrid UST 680 recoil shaft stiff

Irons: :Sub70: 699 irons  KBS tour 90 v Stiff 

52 Deg:cleveland-small: 588 RTX 2.0

56 deg: :cleveland-small: Reg 588 tour action

60 Deg: :cleveland-small: 588 RTX 2.0

Putter:bettinardi-small: Studio Stock #3 (Winn 1.32 Pro x grip)

Rangefinder: :CaddyTek: Caddytek V2

 

Check out my MyGolfSpy 2020 Forum Official Tester: Ben Hogan GS53 Driver

 

 

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I keep hitting refresh in my email, but no tracking yet. My anticipation continues to build....

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:callaway-small: Epic Flash Sub Zero, 9°, Aldila Rogue White 70 X
:taylormade-small: M4 3HL 16.5°, Atmos Red 60
:cobra-small: F6 5-6W, 19.5°, Fujikura Motore 6.3
:755178188_TourEdge: CBX 20°, Project X HZRDUS 85 5.5
Currently testing: :Sub70: 699 Pro, Modus3 105, 5–PW
:cleveland-small: CBX 48°
:cleveland-small: RTX-3 CB 54° and 60°
:odyssey-small: Stroke Lab EXO Seven Mini, 34"
:srixon-small: Z-Star XV

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Listening to NPG gave me a curious question for the group....will any of you check the lie and loft once the clubs arrive? 

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Driver: PXG 0811 X Gen 2
3 Wood: Taylormade SIM
3 Utility Iron: Srixon U85
4i – AW: Taylormade P760
SW: Vokey SM7 M Grind
LW: Cleveland RTX 4 X-Low
Putter: Ping Vault Oslo

 

 

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13 hours ago, Tom the Golf Nut said:

Well it was Christmas in July today. 🤩  Got home from looking at a college with my daughter and there was a present at my front door!  Great packaging for the clubs, better than anything else I have received from other companies in the past. The box is even first class. The slogan on the box reads "Expectations Redefined". Other than the clubs there were also other surprises in the box as well. A hand written note from Jason at Sub 70, a nice hat, and a sticker for my car.  

Each clubhead was wrapped in plastic and each one had the clubs specks on a label. 

First impressions: I was expecting a slightly smaller club head in length compared to my game improvement Irons. This was not the case. So one of my concerns turned out not to be one 😃. The offset is less which was expected but isn't much of a concern for me. You can see a side by side comparison below. Craftsmanship was perfect. I did not find any flaws throughout the set.  A few swings in the living room and everything felt and looked good.

I am working on a loft comparison chart. Game improvement irons are always strong lofted. So I want to be taking everything into consideration during the testing. 

Everything was starting off on a good note until I unwrapped the last club (Don't worry). Then there was a crack of thunder and then the skies opened up. My planned run over to the driving range came to a halt. At least it gave me time to put this post together.

Testing starts on Sunday. I have a golf tournament tomorrow and I think it best to get more familiarity with the new sticks before I put them in play (But I want to so badly). I'm trying to squash the demon on my shoulder telling me to put them in the bag! 

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Very nice clubs sir, the temptation to play with them straight away must be killing you!!

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In my :cobra-small: Ultralight Stand Bag:

Driver:    :cobra-small: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff
Woods:   :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
               :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3 Hybrid - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
Irons:      :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 4-PW - True Temper XP95 Reg
Wedges: :cobra-small: King Black - LH - 52° 56° 60° -True Temper XP95 Reg
Putter:    :rife-putters-1: Two Bar Hybrid
Ball:        :titelist-small: Pro V1

Tracked By: :Arccos:

Follow me on Twitter @ham12_hampton and on Instagram @Nunfa0 for the #cobraconnectchallenge3

 

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6 hours ago, goaliewales14 said:

Listening to NPG gave me a curious question for the group....will any of you check the lie and loft once the clubs arrive? 

I would love to have access to a loft/lie machine, but I don't have one and don't know anyone (or any business) within miles who does. I can't say that I would ever think to check a set right out of the box (I suppose if I owned the machine I might). I'd be inclined to check if the gapping seemed off on the course or on SkyTrak.

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:callaway-small: Epic Flash Sub Zero, 9°, Aldila Rogue White 70 X
:taylormade-small: M4 3HL 16.5°, Atmos Red 60
:cobra-small: F6 5-6W, 19.5°, Fujikura Motore 6.3
:755178188_TourEdge: CBX 20°, Project X HZRDUS 85 5.5
Currently testing: :Sub70: 699 Pro, Modus3 105, 5–PW
:cleveland-small: CBX 48°
:cleveland-small: RTX-3 CB 54° and 60°
:odyssey-small: Stroke Lab EXO Seven Mini, 34"
:srixon-small: Z-Star XV

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Really excited to see what you guys think of these clubs! I've had my eye on them for close to a year now... @Smellis745 looks like my game is most similar to yours, so no pressure but I'm definitely keeping my eye on what you have to say 👀😉

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Right Handed

Driver (9.5°): :taylormade-small: R9 SupterTri (Fujikura MotoreF1 65 Stiff shaft)

FW (15°): :callaway-logo-1: X2 Hot (Aldila Tour Green 75 Tx Stiff shaft)

Hybrid (18°): :tour-edge: Exotics EXS Pro (Evenflow Black 6.5) (2020 MGS Official Review here)

Irons (PW-3) :ping-small: Eye 2's

Wedges (52° & 60°): :callaway-logo-1: Mack Daddy 2's

Putter: :EVNROLL: ER2B (2019 MGS Official Review here)

Ball: :Snell: MTB-Black OR MAXFLI Tour

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10 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

I keep hitting refresh in my email, but no tracking yet. My anticipation continues to build....

Maybe if you didn't live in some remote location that still uses pony express, you'd have them by now?

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Driver: :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR 9.5* Recoil 460ES cut to 45"
3W: :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR 15* Recoil 460ES
3H, 4H: :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES
4-PW:  :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105
AW: :mizuno-small:S5 52*
SW: :cleveland-small: 588
LW: :callaway-small: MD3
Putter: :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab Marxman
Bag: :bridgestone-small: Tour B Stand Bag
Ball: :srixon-small: Z-Star
Pushcart: BigMax iQ+

:SuperSpeed: Tester
Starting Driver Speed on PRGR Monitor: 102 mph

Final Driver Speed (end of Level 2): 120 mph

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1 hour ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

I would love to have access to a loft/lie machine, but I don't have one and don't know anyone (or any business) within miles who does. I can't say that I would ever think to check a set right out of the box (I suppose if I owned the machine I might). I'd be inclined to check if the gapping seemed off on the course or on SkyTrak.

My guess is that the lies and lofts will be spot on, Jason would have made sure of that.

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In my :cobra-small: Ultralight Stand Bag:

Driver:    :cobra-small: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff
Woods:   :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
               :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3 Hybrid - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
Irons:      :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 4-PW - True Temper XP95 Reg
Wedges: :cobra-small: King Black - LH - 52° 56° 60° -True Temper XP95 Reg
Putter:    :rife-putters-1: Two Bar Hybrid
Ball:        :titelist-small: Pro V1

Tracked By: :Arccos:

Follow me on Twitter @ham12_hampton and on Instagram @Nunfa0 for the #cobraconnectchallenge3

 

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9 hours ago, goaliewales14 said:

Listening to NPG gave me a curious question for the group....will any of you check the lie and loft once the clubs arrive? 

I will check mine next chance I get.  I plan to do a TM comparison between my current gamers and these, as well as checking the dynamic lie angle and adjusting if necessary.  When I do, I'll have the loft and lie checked.  I asked for mine to be bent 1.5* upright based on their standard angle and what my specs typically call for, so it'll be interesting to see.  I anticipate they'll be spot on.

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  • TaylorMade M5 9.0 - Graphite Design Tour AD-XC 6X OR PX HZRDUS Green 60 6.5 TX
  • TaylorMade M6 15 - PX HZRDUS Green 80 6.5 TX
  • Adams Red 18 - Matrix Altus Tour X
  • Callaway X Forged UT 19 - Aldila Rogue Black 105 TX
  • Srixon Z965 4-P - PX 6.0 LS (hs 1x) --------------- FORUM TESTING /// Sub 70 Golf 699 Pro 4-P - KBS Tour X
  • Cleveland RTX 4 52/58 Mid - DG TI S400
  • Scotty Cameron X7 Phantom 34”
  • Bridgestone B XS

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Those look so good! Get those babies in the ground and let us know your first impressions.

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In my bag:

Driver: :honma: TR20 460 9.5* Vizard TR20 60X

Wood: :mizuno-small: ST200 TS Dimana D+PLUS Limited Edition 70X

Hybrids: :mizuno-small: CLK 19* Tensei CK Pro Blue 80TX

Irons: :honma: TW 747 Rose Proto 4-PW Modus Tour 120X

Wedges: :honma: TW-W4 52*, 56*, and 60*Modus Tour 125 Wedge 

Putter: :seemore-small: Nashville Z1C 34"

 Ball: :bridgestone-small: Tour B X

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I just got home from my golf tournament. Pulled out the Flight scope MEVO got the hitting mat and net out for some quick reference data. Recorded the lofts from my old set compared to the 699 Pro's in an excel sheet. Set up columns for launch angle, spin, ball speed, average distance.  GUESS what? Another downpour  is coming through. Hopefully tomorrow I will see some range time. At this rate, although I was the first one to get their clubs I'll be the last one to hit them. Man this is killing me. 

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Driver, Ping G400 11* SR Flex

3 Wood, TaylorMade SLDR 17*  R Flex

5 Wood, TaylorMade SLDR 19* R Flex

Hybrid, Cobra Amp 24* R Flex

Irons, Sub 70 699 Pro's S Flex (5 - AW)

Wedges, Cleveland CBX 56* & 60*

Putter, Odyssey Marksman Fang 35"

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2 hours ago, Tom the Golf Nut said:

I just got home from my golf tournament. Pulled out the Flight scope MEVO got the hitting mat and net out for some quick reference data. Recorded the lofts from my old set compared to the 699 Pro's in an excel sheet. Set up columns for launch angle, spin, ball speed, average distance.  GUESS what? Another downpour  is coming through. Hopefully tomorrow I will see some range time. At this rate, although I was the first one to get their clubs I'll be the last one to hit them. Man this is killing me. 

This Tennessee weather is crazy! Hopefully you'll get a break in it tomorrow and will be able to get out and hit them. 

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3 hours ago, Tom the Golf Nut said:

Another downpour  is coming through.

Tom - We left Asheville this morning, and it looks like we brought the rain back to Central VA with us.

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What's in the bag:
Driver - :cobra-small: F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S )
3 Wood (16*) - :cobra-small: F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S )
2 Iron - :mizuno-small: FliHi (18*) - Recoil 760 ( S )
4i - GW - :wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged - Recoil 760 ( S )
SW - LW - :cobra-small: F8 - N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour105 ( S )
Putter - :ping-small: Craz-e
Bag - :1590477705_SunMountain: 2.5 (Black)
Ball -  :srixon-small: Z-Star XV
Instagram - @hardcorelooper
Twitter - @meovino
Facebook - mike.eovino
 

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On 7/27/2020 at 4:21 PM, Sluggo42 said:

does it have a narrowed number (the number that a normal solid shot goes) somewhere in the mix?

It does.  Arccos calls it Smart Distance.  I don't have the formula on hand, but I've found it to be a pretty good approximation of my "count on" yardage.  It does a pretty good job of filtering out outliers.  Once you get enough data into the system, it's pretty accurate.  Law of large numbers.

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What's in the bag:
Driver - :cobra-small: F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S )
3 Wood (16*) - :cobra-small: F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S )
2 Iron - :mizuno-small: FliHi (18*) - Recoil 760 ( S )
4i - GW - :wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged - Recoil 760 ( S )
SW - LW - :cobra-small: F8 - N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour105 ( S )
Putter - :ping-small: Craz-e
Bag - :1590477705_SunMountain: 2.5 (Black)
Ball -  :srixon-small: Z-Star XV
Instagram - @hardcorelooper
Twitter - @meovino
Facebook - mike.eovino
 

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I just got home from my golf tournament. Pulled out the Flight scope MEVO got the hitting mat and net out for some quick reference data. Recorded the lofts from my old set compared to the 699 Pro's in an excel sheet. Set up columns for launch angle, spin, ball speed, average distance.  GUESS what? Another downpour  is coming through. Hopefully tomorrow I will see some range time. At this rate, although I was the first one to get their clubs I'll be the last one to hit them. Man this is killing me. 

Man you just can’t buy a break Tom!!!


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In my bag:

Driver:  :Hogan: Ben Hogan GS53 10.5* Stiff Mitsubishi tensei blue

3 Wood: :adams-small: Insight BUL Stiff

Hybrid:  :Sub70: 939x Hybrid UST 680 recoil shaft stiff

Irons: :Sub70: 699 irons  KBS tour 90 v Stiff 

52 Deg:cleveland-small: 588 RTX 2.0

56 deg: :cleveland-small: Reg 588 tour action

60 Deg: :cleveland-small: 588 RTX 2.0

Putter:bettinardi-small: Studio Stock #3 (Winn 1.32 Pro x grip)

Rangefinder: :CaddyTek: Caddytek V2

 

Check out my MyGolfSpy 2020 Forum Official Tester: Ben Hogan GS53 Driver

 

 

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11 hours ago, Smellis745 said:

Well, well, well...look what finally arrived.

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Christmas in July barely happened for me, but it did!  Just like Tom's experience, the irons arrived safe and sound, packaged very neatly and secure.  

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I immediately unboxed it all and found the hat, sticker, and personalized letter from Jason.  As a folically challenged dude with a big noggin, I appreciate a good hat and this is a quality hat! 

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INITIAL IMPRESSIONS!!!!  Upon removing the irons from the grid, I was amazed at their beauty.  The lines on these irons are perfect.  They were a touch bigger than I expected, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.  The squared toe, which I absolutely love by the way, helps with the appearance of the overall heel to toe length.  I chose to go with because my hope was that it would reduce the appearance of the top line.  As you can see in the pics, it's not noticeably thicker than the top line of a Srixon Z745.  The sole is a touch wider, but only towards the toe.  The heel side is actually a touch narrower.  Offset to the naked eye is negligible compared to the Z745 as well.  It's there, but I can live with it.

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Alright, enough of that, the pics can speak for themselves.  What's an excited overgrown kid supposed to do when he get's a brand new set of toys?  Go play of course, and that's what I did.  I'll apologize in advance, but the battery on my phone died while driving to the course.  I didn't realize it was nearly dead before leaving and I didn't get any pictures of these beasts in their natural habitat.  Anyhow, that's out of the way.  I arrived at the course and went through my normal stretching routine and warm-up.  After warming up with some partial wedge shots, I took the PW out.  First strike, OK, that sounds and feels different.  These irons, throughout the set, have more audible noise than what I've been accustomed to with the Srixons.  A well struck shot out of the middle on the 745s is a dull thud.  Miss the center though and you get a nice crack.  With these 699 Pros, there's definitely a more audible sound at contact.  It's not bad by any means, but it's there.  I can feel the contact a little more with these compared to shots off the middle of the 745s, but it's negligible.  The biggest difference is the feel is still there with the 699 Pros.  I could still easily tell when I hit it out of the middle or had the toe side miss that I typically see.  Speaking of, that shot is not near as punishing as it is with my Srixon's, either the 745s or 965s.  Anyhow, sound and feel aside, it didn't bother me in the least as the balls were just flying high and straight.  I hit about 10 shots with the PW, 7i, and 5i, then said it's time to hit the course.  

I'll post the round below, but I'll tell you about the memorable shots with the new sticks.  Hole 1...I opened with a snap hook drive that left me behind a pine tree with no way to get to the green in two.  I took the 4 iron and hit a low punch that ran up to about 40 yards short, color me impressed.  Hole 4 was where I noticed really started to notice some magic with these.  It's a dog leg left hole that only requires a layup off the tee.  I was left with 179 yards so I pulled the 7i out.  Perfect strike, high draw, ball carried right on the number and released maybe 5'.  Hole 9 is a dog-leg right par 5 that plays longer than it reads on the tee sheet.  I smoked a cut drive down the right side and was left with 210 to center.  I pulled the 5i again and what happened next was just amazing.  Another perfect strike, high fade, flew slightly longer than center, but landed and only rolled out 6-7'!!!!!  What, how does that happen?!?!  Needless to say, I missed my eagle putt, but closed the 9 with a stress free birdie for an even 36.  

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I have a parent/child tournament with my daughter tomorrow morning, and these will be in the bag.  I'll try to snap some outdoor pics tomorrow, but from my limited time with the Sub 70 699 Pros today, I'm very impressed.

 

Gotta love the maiden voyage with some new sticks!

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Right Handed

Driver (9.5°): :taylormade-small: R9 SupterTri (Fujikura MotoreF1 65 Stiff shaft)

FW (15°): :callaway-logo-1: X2 Hot (Aldila Tour Green 75 Tx Stiff shaft)

Hybrid (18°): :tour-edge: Exotics EXS Pro (Evenflow Black 6.5) (2020 MGS Official Review here)

Irons (PW-3) :ping-small: Eye 2's

Wedges (52° & 60°): :callaway-logo-1: Mack Daddy 2's

Putter: :EVNROLL: ER2B (2019 MGS Official Review here)

Ball: :Snell: MTB-Black OR MAXFLI Tour

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Wow! The clubs look great guys!

Custom boxes, hats, swag, and pretty much endless options when it comes to shaft choices. All from a company just a couple of years old. 


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WITB:

Louisville Smart Persimmon Driver

Louisville Niblick Persimmon 3 & 5 woods

Hogan UIHI 4-iron*

Hogan PTx Pro 5-7*

Hogan Icon 8-PW*

KZG 51 gap wedge

KZG 56 sand wedge

Rife Legend Z Putter

 

*denotes clubs being tested

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Sub70 is putting its best foot forward. 


WITB

G400 10.5 

M2 3HL

Titleist 818 3 and 4 hybrid 

Ping G15 5-gap

Vokey SM7 54 degrees 

Vokey SM6 58 degrees 

Bobby Grace Shiloh putter

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Finally a sunny day. 

Started out with the numbers. The 5 through 9 iron lofts are identical from my game improvment irons to the 699's so I expected the data to be similar. Set up the net, Flight Scope Mevo, and a hitting mat.  Used 6 new premium balls, new glove and went to work. Took a dozen swings with each club from both sets for comparison.

First impressions. The club felt lighter but well balanced. I'm used to the chunkier head weight of the game improvment clubs. A center strike felt real solid. Slight toe hits you can feel and hear the difference.

Club mph, no difference between sets

Ball mph, no difference between sets

Smash factor, very very slight gain in favor of the 699 pro's  (1.35 to 1.4 on 7 iron as an example)

Spin ,  very slight gain across the board. ( 5398 versus 5419 on 7 iron)

Launch angle, no real difference until you get into the longer irons. 7 through 5 showed an increase of a few degrees. I though I would see more deviation here. But the height in yards did show the increase which is what I was looking for.

So enough with the Mevo and net I'm going to go over to the golf course, hit the range for a small bucket then play some golf. I'll fill you in later.

 

 

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Driver, Ping G400 11* SR Flex

3 Wood, TaylorMade SLDR 17*  R Flex

5 Wood, TaylorMade SLDR 19* R Flex

Hybrid, Cobra Amp 24* R Flex

Irons, Sub 70 699 Pro's S Flex (5 - AW)

Wedges, Cleveland CBX 56* & 60*

Putter, Odyssey Marksman Fang 35"

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