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2 hours ago, BrownBearGolf said:

It’s merely speculation for the sake of speculation and community Banter. Is it not?

Yes if course we have to have discussion on them until more info comes straight from the horses mouth.   But like YK said above people make definitive negative comments—not saying you did—then seemingly forget they ever said that when they are released. 

I too generally hold back until I’ve seen and hit somethig.  MAVRIK is a perfect example of that.  It got crucified over the orange when the prerelease photos showed up.  Now its the best selling iron on the market, snd i have a set on the way.  
 

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If they make the 921 Tours in LH, I will sell my first born for a set. He's had a good two, almost three year run here at the house...he's gently used...mint condition. 

The 919's were SO Good, I just couldn't keep all the goodness to myself, that's the only reason I sold them 😞  Already talked to rep about a 921 order, so I'll be able to compare and share the in

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On 8/1/2020 at 1:33 PM, yungkory said:

I fast forwarded through the video because there's gotta be a media embargo, and if anyone is getting first cracks at a media release, I'm putting my money on TxG getting it. Not surprised I didn't see an actual 921 haha

Damn. I waited to long.  Its been taken down.  

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Forging and casting are just two ways of shaping metal. Using one or the other really just comes down to desired mechanical properties/microstructure, whether the shape can actually be forged, and cost to manufacture.

Fair enough, I overlooked the alloy change. I assumed you couldn’t cast or forge the exact same metal, shows how little I know. I do know the properties of forged are significantly different than cast all else equal. I guess I’ll wait and see the early reviews but I’m only interested in improved feel (soft) or forgiveness, I couldn’t care less about more distance. YMMV


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33 minutes ago, FrogginBullfish said:

Forging and casting are just two ways of shaping metal. Using one or the other really just comes down to desired mechanical properties/microstructure, whether the shape can actually be forged, and cost to manufacture.

Yes and no? Assuming the exact same metal and shape/geometry - a forged part will have significantly greater strength (and therefore “feel”) than a cast part. If forging didn’t have advantages, many more parts would be cast.
 

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  • Forged parts had a 37% higher fatigue strength resulting in a much longer lifespan than cast parts.
  • Structural Integrity – products formed by casting are more porous than forged products.

 

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Metallurgy shmetallurgy 😂 let's just drool over this:

The tours are looking niceeeeeeee. Kinda reminds me of the 919 line and then it met an SM8 and they had a blast one night at the bar and had an illegitimate child together.

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Just now, yungkory said:

Metallurgy shmetallurgy 😂 let's just drool over this:

 

Yeah, but they're not worth upgrading to 🙂

 

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1 minute ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Yeah, but they're not worth upgrading to 🙂

 

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They are looking really good. Hopefully we get some specs later this week or early next. They should be finding their way to fitters within 2 weeks I'd think since they are going to be available to purchase at retail on 9/17. They should want to get people hitting them and taking pre-orders ASAP since you can't buy anything from the current JPX line-up....

 

Edit:  Higher resolution version of video above.  Mizuno commented that pricing will be available next Monday 8/10. Hopefully specs are released with prices...

 

 

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8 minutes ago, ChitownM2 said:

What do people think would be the logical break point for a mixed set of hot metal and forged? Probably going to do a 5-GW set.

I was thinking 5,6 HM and 7-A Forged. 

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3 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

I was thinking 5,6 HM and 7-A Forged. 

That is kind of what I was thinking....the good part is that I should be able to hit a 7 iron in both and see which I like better since I'm guessing that is the head that will be sent out to fitters. 

Hopefully the rumors of the forged model being 1* stronger are true, that would make gapping the sets a little easier.

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I can't get into specifics, but tell me what the forged 7 degree was in the 919 and I might be able to tell you if it's a solid rumor or not 🙂

 

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2 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

I can't get into specifics, but tell me what the forged 7 degree was in the 919 and I might be able to tell you if it's a solid rumor or not 🙂

 

it was 32*

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3 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

I can't get into specifics, but tell me what the forged 7 degree was in the 919 and I might be able to tell you if it's a solid rumor or not 🙂

 

Actually looking closer now, you'd have to do the split after the 5 of the Hot Metal to make them 4-5 degrees consistent. 

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2 minutes ago, ChitownM2 said:

it was 32*

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Some rumors are as good as gold 😉

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Hmm...If the rumor is true 😜,  I was thinking the 5 HM standard, 6 HM 1* weak and the 7 forged 1* strong. That would be 23, 27, 31, 35 for 5-8.  Thanks for the insight!

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HM 919 specs  

Other rumors have the new HM being 1 degree stronger as well

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1 minute ago, ChitownM2 said:

Hmm...If the rumor is true 😜,  I was thinking the 5 HM standard, 6 HM 1* weak and the 7 forged 1* strong. That would be 23, 27, 31, 35 for 5-8.  Thanks for the insight!

That would work! 

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Although I might just go Forged 1 strong and leave the 5 where it is, and if the gap is 5 degrees, I probably won't notice that much and i get a few more yards out of the 5 iron.  I would think the 5 HM might launch a bit higher if the weight is distributed a bit lower than the Forged, just guessing on that last part.

 

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