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I looks like the V sole grind is less prominent in the new zipcore vs the RTX 4's that I have from testing last year.  Are you guys seeing the same thing and do you think it's a help or hurt in terms of turf interaction? 
20200807_211645.jpeg it's funny you ask about the grind because that is a big thing I noticed when I first got the club. How it almost seems to have 2 angles on the bottom, in the picture it shows more via the light glare but it is very pronounced. Really hope it doesnt lead to larger divots like@shankster said because if so the greens keepers are going to hate me I already take big divots.

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I looks like the V sole grind is less prominent in the new zipcore vs the RTX 4's that I have from testing last year.  Are you guys seeing the same thing and do you think it's a help or hurt in terms of turf interaction? 


V sole not an issue for me, as I have gamed SCOR’s and Hogan Tk15’s, both designed by Terry Koehler.


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I took my 58* Cleveland ZipCore out to the range for a very short lunch break 30 minute practice session.  I did only greenside chips.  Unfortuantely, I haven't been able to convert the .mov files to the appropriate formats to post here.  So here are some screenshots.

My initial assessment has me comparing feel and sound to my gamers of two years which are Callaway MD4 58*.Right off the bat I loved the muted sound of a hit.  The Callaway have a very hard, loud, almost obnoxious click.  The ZipCore sounded smooth, soft, flush.  

As for feeling, the Callaway sounded loud and felt loud. It was a feeling of hard against hard. Now, while that is off putting the feel and the sound got better as the wedges were used more, "broken in" and the raised protruding "grooves" wore away.  The more harsh feel did, in fact, provide feedback that I've grown used to.  

In sharp contrast a brand new ZipCore at impact feels muted, less harsh. This clearly provides the softer sound at impact.  However, mishits seemed to feel as soft and muted as a properly hit ball.  So in this preliminary practice session I was thinking to myself how sweet this wedge felt.  Then I started to consider that I was not, seemingly, getting the feedback that I've grown accustomed to.  I did not know at the moment of impact if it's was a good hit or not.  I don't want my wedge to feel numb.  Having that been said, as with any club I need time to adapt to how it looks, how it weighs, how it cuts through turf, how it imparts spin on the ball.   So, I'll put it play on the course next.  Over the next 6 weeks I plan to have a confident and thorough examination of the wedge's playability pros and cons.

 

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On 8/9/2020 at 5:40 AM, fozcycle said:

 


V sole not an issue for me, as I have gamed SCOR’s and Hogan Tk15’s, both designed by Terry Koehler.


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This has me thinking... I read the posts in the Edison wedge thread. Is the “V-sole” on the Cleveland wedge REALLY beneficial on both sides??? Can that be quantified? I seem to remember a comment made that not all v-soles really work.

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6 minutes ago, artful_golfer said:

My new wedge actually came in last Thursday night but I couldn't play with it until we adjusted the shaft length. My husband helped me and we trimmed it down 1" Friday night. It took until today for me to figure out how to put my video snippets together and edit it all. We don't have fancy club equipment or special clamps to hold clubs but we made it work. If you're interested in how we did it, my video is below. We ran out of daylight before we finished so I couldn't show you installing a new grip with the air compressor - it wasn't as easy as the how-to YouTube videos make it. A couple of times the grip just flew off with a loud pop.

 

Nice! Have never trimmed clubs before but have done grips. I have found solvent and sliding them on is easier than the compressor, for me anyway. Can’t wait to see results on course

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The morning after we trimmed my wedge shaft, I was scheduled to play in a tournament at 9am. @GolfSpy Stroker warned us not to play without practicing first, but I was anxious and excited to try it. So without ever hitting one shot with it, I left my PW behind, grabbed the new 46° instead and joined my playing partners.

Turns out the first couple of times I had the chance to use it, I was not the least bit confident so I switched to another club. That was a disaster because I was trying to make the wrong club work. When I finally used my new 46° ZipCore I was surprised and delighted with the result. I didn't know how much of a swing to take so it hit barely off the edge of the green . . . but it stopped immediately. I have a tendency to hit low to mid-high shots but this was high and soft. I laughed and thought how cool is that! No rolling past the hole or off the opposite side of the green. I know my playing partners were confused about why I was so happy.

The next day I played again but with more confidence. I had 3 opportunities to use my new wedge. Two shots were on the green and again just stopped! The third one was a little short but that was user error when I hit it fat while my ball in a soft muddy area.

I'm ready to now schedule some quality practice time.

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28 minutes ago, Lacassem said:

Nice! Have never trimmed clubs before but have done grips. I have found solvent and sliding them on is easier than the compressor, for me anyway. Can’t wait to see results on course

The reason we decided to blow the grip on was because I'm not sure if 1 inch off is enough. We can remove this grip and reuse it. But we had so much trouble that my husband did plead with me to "just do it the normal way". We first tried a hacksaw on the shaft but it didn't even leave a scratch on that shiny steel. I was desperate to keep trying when my husband remembered our Dremmel tool. It got quite hot but worked.

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Ok so I got paired with some speed golfers today so did not get to properly test the wedge as I had planned and wanted to just leave it in the bag instead. However something funny happened I accidentally grabbed it for a 92 yard shot on 18. I immediately felt it was a different club then my Honma 54. Boy did that thing launch high! Was a little deep with it but was overall a great shot in my mind. I am very excited to really dig in this week when I get back from vacation.

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22 hours ago, artful_golfer said:

My wedges (PW & SW) in my first set of Ping clubs; the PW in my next set Wilson D7 irons; and the PW in my current TaylorMade R7 irons all have wider soles that I can't seem to consistently hit well. They keep bouncing off the ground.

These photos are a comparison of my PWs in the order I've acquired and played them (L-R).

This first photo is of the soles. I don't know how much a difference a wider sole makes for most players but it sure seems to be a hindrance for me. Left to right: Ping Serene, Wilson D7, TaylorMade R7, and Cleveland ZipCore which plans to permanently send the others to the timeout bag. (Ping, Wilson and TaylorMade are each part of a full iron set. Wilson D7 is the 2nd best)

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This next photo is a comparison of the faces and grooves. Cleveland claims the extra grooves are a plus and so far (even with what little I used it) my "Zippy" and I agree.

Left to Right: Ping, Wilson D7, TaylorMade R7 and Cleveland "Zippy" ZipCore

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These photos are a comparison of my PWs in the order I've acquired and played them (L-R).
This first photo is of the soles. I don't know how much a difference a wider sole makes for most players but it sure seems to be a hindrance for me. Left to right: Ping Serene, Wilson D7, TaylorMade R7, and Cleveland ZipCore which plans to permanently send the others to the timeout bag. (Ping, Wilson and TaylorMade are each part of a full iron set. Wilson D7 is the 2nd best)
Sole_comparisons.jpg.25e08e1817b6b2cf2cd63da2f7c0e3f3.jpgThis
This next photo is a comparison of the faces and grooves. Cleveland claims the extra grooves are a plus and so far (even with what little I used it) my "Zippy" and I agree.
Left to Right: Ping, Wilson D7, TaylorMade R7 and Cleveland "Zippy" ZipCore
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And I thought the sole is kinda big

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