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Hi All,

Just wondering how everyone is finding the delays in production from golf manufactures. Is it a good thing as more people are getting into golf and buying new equipment or is is just a delay as parts haven't been delivered from China or is it the reduced head count at the assembly lines? What sort of delays have people seen and how do you push back when it's too long?

Who is the worst for the delays?

Personally Have see 3 weeks from Callaway for a 5 hybrid head, 5 weeks from Evnroll for a ER7CS and 5 months and counting from Mizuno for a 6 iron. anyone top 5 months?

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The only extended lead time I know the specifics of is Ben Hogan Golf.  They have it right on the main page of their website and update it daily.  Right now their lead time on new clubs is just under 30 days instead of their normal 14 days.  For being closed for 6 weeks earlier this year, I'd say that's not a bad lead time.  I've kept half an eye on it out of curiosity since they started posting daily updates and they have hovered around a 30 day lead time for a couple months now.

Driver: Cobra Speedzone 10.5 Mitsubishi AV Blue S flex

Wood: Cobra Bio Cell 3-4 Grafalloy Pro Launch Blue (low launch original version) S flex

Hybrids: Taylormade GAPR 3 KBS graphite shaft

              Strata 4 and 5 hybrids R flex

Irons: Strata 6-PW R flex

Wedges: Texan Classics 52, 56, 60 R flex

Putter: Odyssey Red Ball mallet

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Titleist T100 & T100S irons backordered until early November.................. have a friend who ordered a set of T100's in July and still is patiently playing the "waiting game."

Season may be over here before he gets a chance to even play them.  🤫

Driver & Fairway: Titleist TS3 9.5 & 15 - Project X Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.0

Hybrid: Titleist 818H2 - Tensei Blue 70S

Irons: Titleist T100 4 - P Project X 5.0

Wedges: Vokey SM7 50, 54, and 60

Putter: Cameron Phanthom 5.5

Ball: Pro V1

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1 hour ago, rkj427 said:

Titleist T100 & T100S irons backordered until early November.................. have a friend who ordered a set of T100's in July and still is patiently playing the "waiting game."

Season may be over here before he gets a chance to even play them.  🤫

interesting, i haven’t heard that. i ordered my T100 in mid september. my heads are at titleist but they’re waiting on my shafts, which they had to order. 

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Forgot to mention that when he first ordered his set, he was told 2 - 4 weeks for delivery.

Nothing too out of the ordinary, at least I don't think so for his set make-up.

4 - P, 2 degrees flat, KBS Tour Shafts and Tour Velvet Cord grips.

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Driver & Fairway: Titleist TS3 9.5 & 15 - Project X Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.0

Hybrid: Titleist 818H2 - Tensei Blue 70S

Irons: Titleist T100 4 - P Project X 5.0

Wedges: Vokey SM7 50, 54, and 60

Putter: Cameron Phanthom 5.5

Ball: Pro V1

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I'm curious too; ordered TS3 hybrids last week.  They're custom in that the Evenflow Blue I requested is not a stock option, but that's a no-charge upgrade and not a very "exotic" shaft...shouldn't add much to lead time.

Driver: TR20 460, Vizard 60g Stiff

FW:  CBX 119 3w, 15,  Project X Evenflow Blue 75g Stiff

Hybrids:  SIM DHY 3 & 4H, Diamana Limited Hybrid 75g Stiff

Iron: JPX 919 Forged 5-GW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff

Wedges:SM8 54 S Grind, 60 M Grind

Putter:  ER7B 

 

Tested the Honma TR20 460 driver

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I sent a 3 wood back to ping that had the face caved in and it took about 2 months to get it back

Right Handed

Taylormade sim2 9 degree ventus black 7x ( velecore) 44.5

Callaway epic flash sz 5 wood 17 degree tensi AV blue X

Mizuno CLK 19 degree tensi av blue X

Callaway x forged 16 4-pw Project x 6.0 +.75

Vokey SM7 black 50/54/58 Project x 6.0 flighted +.5 length 

Scotty cameron newport 2.6 34 length

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I got fit the first week of July for a Callaway Driver and Fairway, Ping Irons and Titleist wedges.  I didn't receive a single club until September 17th.  The clubs I did receive were my driver and two wedges.  My fitter danced back and forth telling me it was either a head or shaft shortage.  I eventually canceled my ping order all together after being told my the local Ping Rep that manufacturing of custom clubs would start again till November.  I was able to get a 5-PW set of cobras fit with custom shafts.  I canceled my remaining order and I'm waiting for the fitter to refund me for the clubs and services he was unable to provide.

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Driver:  :callaway-small: Callaway Mavrik Max 9° neutral weight setting - Shaft: Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI 60S, length 44.75"

Wood:  :cobra-small: Cobra King SZ 3 wood 13° - Shaft: (Stock) Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 65 Graphite

Hybrid:  :cobra-small: Cobra King SZ 19°-21° - Shaft: (Stock) UST Recoil 480 ESX F4

Irons: :cobra-small: 5-PW Cobra King SZ - Shaft: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour 105

Wedges: :vokey-small: Titleist Vokey SM8 54°, 58° - Shaft: (Stock) Wedge Flex

Putter:  :scotty-small: Scotty Cameron X12, length 34"

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On 10/7/2020 at 6:45 PM, rkj427 said:

Titleist T100 & T100S irons backordered until early November.................. have a friend who ordered a set of T100's in July and still is patiently playing the "waiting game."

Season may be over here before he gets a chance to even play them.  🤫

I don't understand this. I ordered a fitted set of Titleist T100S irons 3 weeks ago and received them in 10 days. Something is going on with your friends order.

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3 Wood: :taylormade-small: SIM - 15*, Diamana 75 Limited Stiff
Hybrid: :titelist-small: TS3 - 19*, Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 Stiff
Irons: :titelist-small:  7 - PW T100S, 4 -6 T200 all with Nippon NS Pro 880 AMC Chrome Stiff
Wedges:  :titelist-small:Vokey SM 7 - 50*, 56*, 60*  Standard Wedge Shafts                                                                                                                                   

Putter:  :scotty-cameron-1: Phantom X 5.5           
Putter:  :scotty-cameron-1: Studio Select Newport 1.5
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I don't understand this. I ordered a fitted set of Titleist T100S irons 3 weeks ago and received them in 10 days. Something is going on with your friends order.

I believe it’s what is ordered. Right now any non std shafts seem to be holding up orders. And LH is always an issue.


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Left Hand, 

Driver; Titleist TSi2, Kuro Kage 50 gr R2

5 Wood; Cally Steelhead 

5 Hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous Vista Pro R2

Irons; Ping G710 6-GW, Recoil 460 R2

Putter; Waaay too many to list

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A few months ago I ordered a set of the Arccos club tags along with the GPS unit as a package.  Shortly after that I received an email that they were back ordered and would be shipped in the order ordered, expected delivery was August/Sept time frame.  Then got an email that they had started shipping the units.  A couple of weeks ago, got another email that there was a "manufacturing" issue and would be further delayed.  What I cannot understand is WHY they are still offering the product for sale, knowing full well they cannot fulfill those orders in the near future.  It is maddening, plus my credit card has been charged.  Yes, I know I can raise a stink and probably get my money back in short order, just wish I could understand what in this business practice seems okay.  😬

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A few months ago I ordered a set of the Arccos club tags along with the GPS unit as a package.  Shortly after that I received an email that they were back ordered and would be shipped in the order ordered, expected delivery was August/Sept time frame.  Then got an email that they had started shipping the units.  A couple of weeks ago, got another email that there was a "manufacturing" issue and would be further delayed.  What I cannot understand is WHY they are still offering the product for sale, knowing full well they cannot fulfill those orders in the near future.  It is maddening, plus my credit card has been charged.  Yes, I know I can raise a stink and probably get my money back in short order, just wish I could understand what in this business practice seems okay.  [emoji51]

The simple answer is Covid and that nothing is like it has been in the past. Suppliers of raw components provide dates and based on those dates other dates are generated. When the first date shifts all the others do. The potential issue with not offering things for sale if they aren’t available is that people will go elsewhere or it come back and purchase. You bought and are not asking for a refund; win for supplier. They hope most people do that. Not saying that I agree but companies need sales to stay in business and shutting down won’t be an option.
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Fairway: :titelist-small: TS3 15* set  to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke
Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
                :titelist-small: 915H  21*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
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Irons:      :honma:TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite
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I just went for a fitting last week. I wish I would've seen the amount of delays everyone is experiencing prior to purchasing my set. Is anyone familiar with the wait times for these brands? 

Cobra-

Mizuno-

Nippon-

Oban-

I was told 4-6 weeks which I accepted but, if you all are seeing further out then that I might go elsewhere to procure my gear. 

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  • 3W  default_cobra-small.jpg.8f58a841b8297702abec5f95f4fc05ce.jpg Cobra Speedzone (Oban Isawa Red 04 Stiff 75) 14* or :callaway-small: Rogue (Aldila Synergy Stiff 60) 15*
  • 3H default_callaway-small.jpg.7a7fb9960a65b711373a949427403d8e.jpg Callaway Rogue (Aldila Synergy Stiff 60) 19* or :cobra-small: Speedzone (UST Recoil 480 ESX (F4))
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Here in the UK I’m trying to buy a SIM driver / fairway and a vokey wedge - No custom fit options through the main online retailers, only what they have in stock is available. They said the options should be back in a month with then 6 weeks for delivery. Severe delays. 

Driver: Titleist TSi2 10 / Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue Raw 65 S

3 Wood: Titleist TSi3 15 / Project X RDX Smoke Black 70 6.0

4 Iron: Titleist U500 / Graphite Design Tour AD DI 85 S

5 - 9 Irons: Mizuno 921 Tour / Nippon Modus 3 120 S

Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM7 46F, 50F, 54S & 58M / Nippon Modus Wedge 115

Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport Select (2016) / BGT Stability Tour

Ball: Srixon Z Star XV / Titleist Pro V1x

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On 11/1/2020 at 7:44 PM, Murray06 said:

Here in the UK I’m trying to buy a SIM driver / fairway and a vokey wedge - No custom fit options through the main online retailers, only what they have in stock is available. They said the options should be back in a month with then 6 weeks for delivery. Severe delays. 

Been told there won’t be any new stock of SIM and new driver out in Feb

Driver: Titleist TSi2 10 / Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue Raw 65 S

3 Wood: Titleist TSi3 15 / Project X RDX Smoke Black 70 6.0

4 Iron: Titleist U500 / Graphite Design Tour AD DI 85 S

5 - 9 Irons: Mizuno 921 Tour / Nippon Modus 3 120 S

Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM7 46F, 50F, 54S & 58M / Nippon Modus Wedge 115

Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport Select (2016) / BGT Stability Tour

Ball: Srixon Z Star XV / Titleist Pro V1x

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I went for a fitting on 9/10 and 9/17. The first day was for irons, ended up with Mizuno JPX921. They were not scheduled for release until the 17th so I pre-ordered a week prior. I received them on 10/8. I was told 3-4 weeks from my fitter and he was damn near spot on. Three weeks from release date and 4 from fitting day. Sucked waiting but I was told a few other manufactures are even worse! He said he couldn't even give an ETA for Ping but said it could be upwards of 12 weeks. 

On driver fitting day, I came away with Titleist TS2. The fitter had one in stock and just needed to change out the grip, but the Fairway wood and hybrid just shipped today. My 3W shaft was backordered, not technically a Titleist problem, but still....it was a stock shaft option. 

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Fairway Wood: :titelist-small: TS2 16.5* - Tensei AV Blue 65 S

Hybrids: :titelist-small: TS2 19.0* - Tensei AV Blue 70HY S

Irons 5-GW: :mizuno-small: JPX 921 Hot Metal - Pro Nippon Modus 3 Tour 105 S

Wedges::mizuno-small: T-20 54 | 58 |  M-Grind - Nippon Modus 105 

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I called Ping the other day and was told that it would be 14 weeks to get a set of i210's.  The rep said the heads were the hold up, not the shafts.  At least not the shafts I was interested in.

14 of the following:

Ping G400 Max

Cobra King F9 Speedback 3 wood

Callaway Big Bertha Heavenwood

Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees

Taylormade M4 5 hybrid

Callaway Mavrik Max 6-GW

PXG 0211 5-GW

PXG 0211 sand wedge bent to 53 degrees

Maltby M Series+ 54 degree

Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree

Ping Sigma 2 Anser

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On 10/18/2020 at 10:16 PM, Rickp said:


I believe it’s what is ordered. Right now any non std shafts seem to be holding up orders. And LH is always an issue.


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Exactly. My lefty t100s took 2 months. My tsi3 was pre ordered on October 20th and still no shipment due to a grip, if I would’ve known it was the grip I would’ve just installed myself. Also what doesn’t make sense is I did a custom wedgeworks for myself and my FIL and both custom wedges were shipped in a week. 

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Exactly. My lefty t100s took 2 months. My tsi3 was pre ordered on October 20th and still no shipment due to a grip, if I would’ve known it was the grip I would’ve just installed myself. Also what doesn’t make sense is I did a custom wedgeworks for myself and my FIL and both custom wedges were shipped in a week. 

Some Golf Pride Grips are back ordered. I was told there’s a big demand.


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Left Hand, 

Driver; Titleist TSi2, Kuro Kage 50 gr R2

5 Wood; Cally Steelhead 

5 Hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous Vista Pro R2

Irons; Ping G710 6-GW, Recoil 460 R2

Putter; Waaay too many to list

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