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I'm planning to re-shaft my G410 irons this winter, I'm not real happy with the steel shafts I currently have. I am now wondering about graphite for the irons? For those who have switched, how is ball flight and performance affected?

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Too many options for both steel and graphite for anyone to really answer your question.  You can get different launching shafts in varying weights, etc. Only way to know what will work for you is to go hit different options. 

That said, the  "good" graphite iron shafts that perform like steel aren't cheap. Steelfiber i95 shafts are going to be like $55 each plus install plus the costs to pull your old shafts plus new grips. Could end up that you are better off buying new clubs rather than replacing shafts. 

In the end, you're going to need to get fitted to see what shaft gives you the results you are looking for.....and I'd probably do that sooner rather than later since there will probably be a replacment for the G410 in January and it will be easier to try different shafts now while everyone still has the G410 heads in their fitting cart. If you wait until Feb or March they will probably have the new clubs and not be doing fittings on the old ones anymore.

 

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Ball flight is going to be player dependent and the shaft type and weight will affect that differently for each person.

I have not seen anything noticeably different in ball flight between the steel shafts I’ve played and the recoil 110s and they have been in my twice in different clubs. 
 

The recoils give me better dispersion side to side than some of the step shafts I played. 
 

Just like with steel shafts there different graphite options and opinions very on them from person to person. The best thing to do ig get fit to make sure you have the optimal shafts in either material for your swing

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1 hour ago, ChitownM2 said:

Too many options for both steel and graphite for anyone to really answer your question.  You can get different launching shafts in varying weights, etc. Only way to know what will work for you is to go hit different options. 

That said, the  "good" graphite iron shafts that perform like steel aren't cheap. Steelfiber i95 shafts are going to be like $55 each plus install plus the costs to pull your old shafts plus new grips. Could end up that you are better off buying new clubs rather than replacing shafts. 

In the end, you're going to need to get fitted to see what shaft gives you the results you are looking for.....and I'd probably do that sooner rather than later since there will probably be a replacment for the G410 in January and it will be easier to try different shafts now while everyone still has the G410 heads in their fitting cart. If you wait until Feb or March they will probably have the new clubs and not be doing fittings on the old ones anymore.

 

 

50 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Ball flight is going to be player dependent and the shaft type and weight will affect that differently for each person.

I have not seen anything noticeably different in ball flight between the steel shafts I’ve played and the recoil 110s and they have been in my twice in different clubs. 
 

The recoils give me better dispersion side to side than some of the step shafts I played. 
 

Just like with steel shafts there different graphite options and opinions very on them from person to person. The best thing to do ig get fit to make sure you have the optimal shafts in either material for your swing

Thanks guys, I do plan to do the re-shafting myself to hold down cost, But it looks like there's a fitting in my near future....

Chris

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There are plenty of good graphite options these days, they aren’t “whipy” like they used to be.

I’ve played the Aerotech Steel Fibers (wish I would have never gotten rid of those) and the UST Mayima Recoils (my current shafts) and had no issues with either.

As far as flight characteristics, a good fitter can find a graphite shaft to do what ever you want it to do.

But the biggest thing for me was less punishment on my wrists and elbows.

I’ll never play steel again.


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4 hours ago, LeftyHawk said:

 

Thanks guys, I do plan to do the re-shafting myself to hold down cost, But it looks like there's a fitting in my near future....

Chris

Yep definitely a fitting will be your best bet to figure out what shaft (whether steel or a switch to graphite is in order).  You can then install the shaft yourself.

 

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I'm using the Recoil ESX 460 Stiff graphite shafts in my Cobra Speedzone irons and haven not seen the dispersion issues, beyond my normal crappy swings, that are sometimes mentioned with graphite. My ball flight is a little lower than with my steel irons which has aided my distance. 

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Calling @chisag lol 😛

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I went to the KBS TGI 95 and they a very nice. The flight isnr much different than the 105 steel shaft I had in the clubs.

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7 hours ago, Kanoito said:

Calling @chisag lol 😛

@chisag will definitely have a strong opinion on this one haha

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Theres really too many great options in both steel and graphite to really nail it down to a steel vs graphite argument.  For me, Id personally stick with steel just because of the cost.  Graphite is probably better if you are talking strictly performance but there is a significant cost difference.

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As others have said, you will have a gazillion choices for graphite.  First nail down what you want from the shaft:  higher flight?  lower flight?  light weight?  heavier weight? etc.  Then do some research to find shafts that fit your criteria (Golfworks is a good source for info).  Then reshaft one iron with the shaft you think will work.  If it does, great.  If not, go to the next shaft on your list.  Good luck!

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On ‎8‎/‎13‎/‎2020 at 7:52 PM, Hook DeLoft said:

As others have said, you will have a gazillion choices for graphite.  First nail down what you want from the shaft:  higher flight?  lower flight?  light weight?  heavier weight? etc.  Then do some research to find shafts that fit your criteria (Golfworks is a good source for info).  Then reshaft one iron with the shaft you think will work.  If it does, great.  If not, go to the next shaft on your list.  Good luck!

Sounds like a good plan, one club and see how it feels....

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I’ve gamed graphite in my irons for 10 plus years. I dallied in steel one time since - big mistake. You can get graphite to do anything that steel does and it’s far easier on the body.

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6 minutes ago, revkev said:

I’ve gamed graphite in my irons for 10 plus years. I dallied in steel one time since - big mistake. You can get graphite to do anything that steel does and it’s far easier on the body.

Good luck


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I think for my next set of irons, I am going to look at graphite shafts. I've been diagnosed with tennis elbow that continues to linger, and steel shafts aren't helping.

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I think for my next set of irons, I am going to look at graphite shafts. I've been diagnosed with tennis elbow that continues to linger, and steel shafts aren't helping.

I moved back to graphite last year after tennis elbow and it’s stayed away and I’ve noticed no issues at all with the shaft performance, and I’m in older shafts at that. Yes I’d prefer steel for the lower costs but after dealing with tennis elbow and all the garbage that comes with it, I’m fine staying in graphites.


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I'm super-excited to be going with graphite in the Wilson D7 Forged.  I love the Modus 105s, but it's time for something that will make hitting a ball a little easier on me.

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