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2020 Official Member Review: Wilson D7 Forged Irons


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31 minutes ago, Thin2win said:

After watching the UPS truck drive circles around my house for 4 hours yesterday my new set of Wilson D7 Forged irons arrived! Sadly, they didn't get in until the rain came and the light faded. 

But it gave me time to inspect them and get ShotScope tags installed and ready for today. 

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Chris, I'm surprised you went with Recoils... have you played/tested composite iron shafts before?  I cannot tell from the photo but what model/weight did you choose?  

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:ping-small: G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w

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18 hours ago, HardcoreLooper said:

I could hardly sleep last night when I saw the tracking notification in my email and it told me that the Wilsons would be arriving today.  Kudos to Wilson for shipping Next Day Air to us.  They didn't have to do that, but they did.

The room I use as my office is right next to the front door.  I can lean back in my chair and watch UPS leave items on my porch. 

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I don't know how I managed to get through the day, but I did.  Full disclosure:  I turned my camera off, muted my phone and tore into the box as soon as I could.

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The clubs were really packed nicely.  It's the little things that make a big difference, and Wilson is getting the little things right.

I don't know why, but I always appreciate it when the manufacturer sends you your specs back, especially when they do it so nicely.

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Many thanks to Ed and all the folks at Wilson for doing such great work and doing it so quickly.

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Sexy?  You tell me.

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Arccos is installed and ready to go.  The F8's are unpaired and the D7's are paired.

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Pretty sexy in the bag as well.  I didn't know if I'd be bothered by the POWER HOLES, but they're easy to overlook.

A post-work trip to the range was thwarted; I had to play 7th grade math teacher.  But we're all set now and I should be able to take today's last call from the car, so I'm hoping to be on the first tee by 5pm tomorrow.  Stay tuned!

 

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Another set with Recoils 👍.  Same question to you I asked Chris.  Really interested in how these shafts perform with these irons.

:ping-small: G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver 

:ping-small: G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w

:ping-small: G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w

:srixon-small:  ZX5 Irons 4-AW 

:ping-small: Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW   (removed from double secret probation 😍)

:EVNROLL: ER5v Putter  (Evnroll ER5v Official Review)

:odyssey-small: AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test)

 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

Chris, I'm surprised you went with Recoils... have you played/tested composite iron shafts before?  I cannot tell from the photo but what model/weight did you choose?  

So the Recoils... If I could have ordered them with any shaft I would have stuck to the nippon modus 105 that I really like. But that shaft was on the Upcharge list. But for the 7 club set the recoils were a free shaft (they are a $450 Upcharge of you get the 8 club set... Wilson, you might want to look into that). 

I picked the 110g F4 flex shafts. I'll get some launch monitor numbers to check everything, but from first day on the course, I forgot all about them being graphite. They felt great and did exactly what I was expecting. 

As I sit here, I'm very glad I didn't get the nippon's. 

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Driver:   :taylormade-small: SIM2 Max 12° - Accra TZ6 M4

FW Wood:     th.jpg.d6e2abdaeb04f007fd259c979f389de6.jpg Gen5 0311 7w  Fujikura Motore X F3

Irons:   :srixon-small: ZX7 PW-7i, ZX5 6i-5i

Wedges: :cleveland-small:  Zipcore 50°, 58°

Putter:   :taylormade-small: MySpider X

Cart: image.png.5aa5e9b8c0d6e08a2b12be76a06a07ca.pngOnewheel XR+

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22 minutes ago, Thin2win said:

But for the 7 club set the recoils were a free shaft (they are a $450 Upcharge of you get the 8 club set... Wilson, you might want to look into that).

Yea, that's really odd 😕.  Good to hear that your initial opinion is that they perform like steel.  That is what many are saying about them.  I'll be interested in whether you notice any reduction in hand/wrist/shoulder fatigue playing them.

I've been eyeballing @chisag's Cobra Tour Forged set that have the Recoils.  I think they are too much into the players category for me but they might be a great experiment set to see if I can handle a players category club and how composite shafts feel - I have never played any.  But, with winter in AZ just around the corner and my plans to do a True Spec full bag fitting in Scottsdale, I've chosen to hold off and see what that yields.

I am going to check with True Spec and see if they have the new Wilson D7 forged among the multitude of options - these irons really interest me.

Edit:  Just checked TrueSpec website... no Wilson 😞.

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:ping-small: G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w

:ping-small: G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w

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:ping-small: Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW   (removed from double secret probation 😍)

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Another set with Recoils .  Same question to you I asked Chris.  Really interested in how these shafts perform with these irons.

FYI, I am playing the Recoil shafts and happy w them. As an older golfer (almost 74) w some arthritis in my hands the Recoils seem to help. Obviously I don’t have the stiff/heavier shafts that you young guys are using.



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5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr       
7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr      
5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
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Wow. These things are gorgeous. Drooling over my phone scrolling through the unboxing photos.

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3 Wood: 
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Could you guys please do side by side comparison photos like @greggarner did? 

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1 hour ago, fixyurdivot said:

Edit:  Just checked TrueSpec website... no Wilson 😞.

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Just means we need to do a golf event before you head south

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Irons:   :srixon-small: ZX7 PW-7i, ZX5 6i-5i

Wedges: :cleveland-small:  Zipcore 50°, 58°

Putter:   :taylormade-small: MySpider X

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55 minutes ago, JohnSmalls said:

Could you guys please do side by side comparison photos like @greggarner did? 

Yes, yes I can. These D7 Forged are replacing a Cleveland Cbx2 wedge, Sub 70 639cb short to mid irons and an i500 5i, so much to compare. 

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FW Wood:     th.jpg.d6e2abdaeb04f007fd259c979f389de6.jpg Gen5 0311 7w  Fujikura Motore X F3

Irons:   :srixon-small: ZX7 PW-7i, ZX5 6i-5i

Wedges: :cleveland-small:  Zipcore 50°, 58°

Putter:   :taylormade-small: MySpider X

Cart: image.png.5aa5e9b8c0d6e08a2b12be76a06a07ca.pngOnewheel XR+

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Thank you guys!   You went above and beyond on your anniversary @revkev.  Hope you and Mrs. Rev have a great celebration! 

I’m most interested in how these interact with the turf compared to what you are used to (thin/wide soles) 

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2 hours ago, fixyurdivot said:

Another set with Recoils 👍.  Same question to you I asked Chris.  Really interested in how these shafts perform with these irons.

I went and got fit for these shafts, so I hit them in the fitting and really liked them.  I also just put a Recoil into an old Mizuno FliHi 2i that had an old Dynamic Gold telephone pole in it.  I'm loving that club now.  I hit it just about as far as the NM105s, but higher and with better dispersion.

 

2 hours ago, Thin2win said:

But for the 7 club set the recoils were a free shaft (they are a $450 Upcharge of you get the 8 club set... Wilson, you might want to look into that). 

I took advantage of that one as well. 

 

2 hours ago, Thin2win said:

I picked the 110g F4 flex shafts. I'll get some launch monitor numbers to check everything, but from first day on the course, I forgot all about them being graphite. They felt great and did exactly what I was expecting. 

As I sit here, I'm very glad I didn't get the nippon's. 

I have the same shafts and had the same experience today.  I didn't think about the shafts, other than that they seem just a little lighter than the 105s.

What's in the bag:
Driver - :cobra-small: F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S )
3 Wood (13.5*) - :titleist-small: 980F 
4 Wood (18*) - :cobra-small: F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S )
3 Hybrid (19*) - :taylormade-small: RBZ
4i - PW - :wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged - Recoil 760 ( S )
52* - :cleveland-small: CBX
58* - :cleveland-small: CBX Full Face 2
Putter - :ping-small: Craz-e
Bag - :1590477705_SunMountain: 2.5 (Blue)
Ball -  :titleist-small: AVX
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Tuesdays are my busy days, but I couldn't resist. Ran out to a local lighted driving range to work up and down the set. Decided not to shoot any video (poor lighting, range balls, off a mat...) but thought you might at least want a hot-take, even if it comes with more than a couple grains of salt:

  • These feel really, really solid. I would describe a typical range ball feel as "hollow,." You can just tell there's nothing going on in there. Not unlike me, some days. But these D7s upgraded the range ball feel to "crunchy." (Hey, it's still a range ball.)
  • Speaking of feel, I was a little concerned coming into this test that I would be giving up feel. That sounds strange for a forged iron, I know, but between the 'power holes' and the 'power chamber,' I was worried that I wouldn't be able to place the ball at contact (i.e. low-toe strike, mid-heel strike, etc) and every shot would just kind of feel the same. That is not the case at all and in the best way. I got the right amount of feedback to know how to adjust but with minimal visible difference to ball flight. With the shorter irons, it seemed I couldn't miss. The D7 4i (my favorite in my Ping set) was an absolute monster and the 3i was much easier to find the center of the face compared to my Ping.
  • These irons are a touch flatter than my Pings (standard vs 0.5 degree upright) and right away I noticed just the softest of butter cuts with my standard swing. Spent some time working shots both ways then high/low and really didn't have any issues, though it's difficult to judge just how workable
  • Ball flight is noticeably lower and more penetrating and if that holds, that's immediately going to make these real contenders to stay in my bag permanently
  • I feel silly talking about turf interaction while hitting off a mat, but I could definitely feel the bottom of the club. We'll see how that translates to grass.

As a fun aside, I had three different people stop and watch me hit a couple shots and one audible, "wow." So that feels pretty good. 🙃

Playing 9 tomorrow evening and again Thursday AM before work. Will report back before I head into my usual weekend routine (18 Friday, 18 Saturday, 9 Sunday, lay on a heating pad Sunday afternoon) By next week, I'll have enough Arccos data to post some preliminary numbers.

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Driver: :srixon-small: ZX5 LS MkII 9.5* (@ 9.0*) with 46.5" Ventus Blue 6X
3-wood: :taylormade-small: SIM 15* with Diamana Limited 75S
5-wood: :cobra-small: RADspeed 18.5* with Motore X F3 60S
2i: :srixon-small: ZX with SteelFiber i95 Stiff

4hy: :titleist-small: TS3 23* with Tensei AV Blue 70 S
4i-7i :srixon-small: ZX7, 8i-PW Z-Forged, Modus3 Tour 120 S
50*, 55* :cleveland-small: RTX 6 Modus3 Tour 125
60* :cleveland-small: RTX Full Face ZipCore DG Spinner S400
Putter: :callaway-small: Toulon Chicago with a :garsen: Quad Tour or :cleveland-small: HB SOFT Milled 10.5S with UST All-in

Ball: :callaway-small: Chrome Tour (but I might still have some :titleist-small: Left Dashes hanging around)
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Think I need some Recoil shafts (or some other graphite shafts) in my next set of irons. I have a feeling this tennis elbow will only get worse as I get older.

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So my 4:00 call from the car turned into a 4:30 I had to lead from my home office.  I get to the course, grab a ticket for a bucket of balls and key my PIN into the machine.

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The assistant pro leading my daughter's junior class just laughed and told me to go out and play a few holes while she had the kids.  So off I went.

So with no range balls, no warm-up, no stretching, I'm standing on the 10th tee.  180 yard par 3, about 165 to the front edge.  I pull 8 iron (my 165 club - you don't want to be long here) and proceed to top it.  No problem, I haven't even swung these things before, I'll just grab another one... and top that one.  So a little bit of fear sets in, but undeterred, I drop a third ball and actually find the clubface.  But I came up about 10 yards short.  I hit a fourth, and the same thing.  The last two shots felt good and looked good in the air.  So maybe these clubs are a little shorter than the Cobras?

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Yes, that was a chip-in "birdie" with the no-holes gap wedge.  

Figuring that these clubs are a little shorter, I hit 4 iron instead of my usual 5 off the 11th tee.  With the Cobras, if I hit 4 and turn it over the least little bit, I run out of room and I'm in jail.  I hit two 4 irons here, turned them both over, and I was in good shape.  From where I was off the tee I'd normally hit a sand wedge in, but I figured I'd try the D7 gap wedge, and it turned out great.  20 feet beyond the hole.

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I didn't hit a horrible shot on 12, just pushed it a bit and missed the green right.  Nice and high for a 6i; much higher than the Cobras.  And boy these things are feeling so smooth.  Incredible feedback on well-struck shots.

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I hit a nice 4i off the tee on 13 and then absolutely flagged a little 9i with the ball about 4 inches above my feet.  That 9i shot was downhill and would usually be a wedge, but so what.  I like three-footers more than I like 145 yard wedge shots.

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I skipped 14 and 15 to save some time and headed to the 16th.  The 4i off the tee was a little off the toe; it didn't feel great but it was certainly useable.  It plays downhill, so that actually wasn't as good a shot as the one on 13.  The 7i with the ball a few inches below my feet and coming out of the rough was a wonderful shot.  It actually landed right next to the hole but rolled out about 20 feet to the fringe.  I decided to chip instead of putting and chipped it to about 2 feet.  This hole is only 420, so don't think of it as a birdie, but it's a good par.

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I wonder what happens when you really catch one off the toe.  I found out on 17.  It's awful.  I thought I broke my hand, even with the graphite shafts.  And it went nowhere.  But, it didn't hook quite as much as the F8 would have, so it was still playable.  With the ball above my feet and a slightly uphill lie to an elevated green, I really thought I'd need one more club.  But I didn't.  I didn't miss by more than about 6 feet, but I was in the back bunker.

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The 5i redeemed itself off the 18th tee leaving me in a great spot, but a little too close to hit one of the D7s.  So I just hit lob wedge, took my two putts, grabbed my daughter and headed out.

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I'll be interested to get more data into Arccos to see what my yardages look like.  This isn't nearly enough data to draw any conclusions, but it does look like I'm about a club shorter with the D7's.  However, if I can hit as many good iron shots day in and day out as I did tonight, I don't know that I'm too worried about losing a club of distance.  

 

 

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What's in the bag:
Driver - :cobra-small: F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S )
3 Wood (13.5*) - :titleist-small: 980F 
4 Wood (18*) - :cobra-small: F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S )
3 Hybrid (19*) - :taylormade-small: RBZ
4i - PW - :wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged - Recoil 760 ( S )
52* - :cleveland-small: CBX
58* - :cleveland-small: CBX Full Face 2
Putter - :ping-small: Craz-e
Bag - :1590477705_SunMountain: 2.5 (Blue)
Ball -  :titleist-small: AVX
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You guys are not wasting any time! The content you guys are putting together right off the bat is phenomenal. 

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3 Wood:Sub70: 939x

4h & 5h:Sub70: 939x

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Thank you guys!   You went above and beyond on your anniversary [mention=16651]revkev[/mention].  Hope you and Mrs. Rev have a great celebration! 
I’m most interested in how these interact with the turf compared to what you are used to (thin/wide soles) 



Will do as this is something I’m interested in. Also I’m likely to get a nice mix of conditions. It’s extremely wet now but you also weather for us will have it starting to dry out as September moves into October so that it’s not all that wet in November.

To be clear these soles aren’t all that thin - certainly thinner than the G30’s but not like a blade or MB. My son has an old set of Adams MBs so I will get a comparative shot with his 7 iron and mine soon.

The top line is really nice, whenever we get a sunny day (Sally is still lingering even here) I will get Laura to help with some nice outdoor top line shots.


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I'll be going to the range this afternoon (I was going to go yesterday but I had to go and fix a plumbing issue for a very useless friend of mine) to give these clubs their first test drive. I'm taking my 4, 6 and PW Bridgestones to try and compare as well as take a few comparison photos. Stay tuned.

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8 hours ago, HardcoreLooper said:

So my 4:00 call from the car turned into a 4:30 I had to lead from my home office.  I get to the course, grab a ticket for a bucket of balls and key my PIN into the machine.

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The assistant pro leading my daughter's junior class just laughed and told me to go out and play a few holes while she had the kids.  So off I went.

So with no range balls, no warm-up, no stretching, I'm standing on the 10th tee.  180 yard par 3, about 165 to the front edge.  I pull 8 iron (my 165 club - you don't want to be long here) and proceed to top it.  No problem, I haven't even swung these things before, I'll just grab another one... and top that one.  So a little bit of fear sets in, but undeterred, I drop a third ball and actually find the clubface.  But I came up about 10 yards short.  I hit a fourth, and the same thing.  The last two shots felt good and looked good in the air.  So maybe these clubs are a little shorter than the Cobras?

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Yes, that was a chip-in "birdie" with the no-holes gap wedge.  

Figuring that these clubs are a little shorter, I hit 4 iron instead of my usual 5 off the 11th tee.  With the Cobras, if I hit 4 and turn it over the least little bit, I run out of room and I'm in jail.  I hit two 4 irons here, turned them both over, and I was in good shape.  From where I was off the tee I'd normally hit a sand wedge in, but I figured I'd try the D7 gap wedge, and it turned out great.  20 feet beyond the hole.

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I didn't hit a horrible shot on 12, just pushed it a bit and missed the green right.  Nice and high for a 6i; much higher than the Cobras.  And boy these things are feeling so smooth.  Incredible feedback on well-struck shots.

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I hit a nice 4i off the tee on 13 and then absolutely flagged a little 9i with the ball about 4 inches above my feet.  That 9i shot was downhill and would usually be a wedge, but so what.  I like three-footers more than I like 145 yard wedge shots.

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I skipped 14 and 15 to save some time and headed to the 16th.  The 4i off the tee was a little off the toe; it didn't feel great but it was certainly useable.  It plays downhill, so that actually wasn't as good a shot as the one on 13.  The 7i with the ball a few inches below my feet and coming out of the rough was a wonderful shot.  It actually landed right next to the hole but rolled out about 20 feet to the fringe.  I decided to chip instead of putting and chipped it to about 2 feet.  This hole is only 420, so don't think of it as a birdie, but it's a good par.

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I wonder what happens when you really catch one off the toe.  I found out on 17.  It's awful.  I thought I broke my hand, even with the graphite shafts.  And it went nowhere.  But, it didn't hook quite as much as the F8 would have, so it was still playable.  With the ball above my feet and a slightly uphill lie to an elevated green, I really thought I'd need one more club.  But I didn't.  I didn't miss by more than about 6 feet, but I was in the back bunker.

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The 5i redeemed itself off the 18th tee leaving me in a great spot, but a little too close to hit one of the D7s.  So I just hit lob wedge, took my two putts, grabbed my daughter and headed out.

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I'll be interested to get more data into Arccos to see what my yardages look like.  This isn't nearly enough data to draw any conclusions, but it does look like I'm about a club shorter with the D7's.  However, if I can hit as many good iron shots day in and day out as I did tonight, I don't know that I'm too worried about losing a club of distance.  

 

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Tough outing, I do hope that the next few ones will be better, about being short, what are the differences between the lofts of the Wilson's and your other clubs?

That could be an explanation, but I am not sure without further data to compare it, it is impossible to tell.

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A belated happy anniversary @revkev! Love the pics, you can really see the offset difference between the D7 and the D7 forged in the side by side view. Definitely curious to see what sort of ballflight differences you see between the two lines.

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1 hour ago, russtopherb said:

A belated happy anniversary @revkev! Love the pics, you can really see the offset difference between the D7 and the D7 forged in the side by side view. Definitely curious to see what sort of ballflight differences you see between the two lines.

Thanks - I'm anxious to see that too - I've tended to miss stuff left with the regular D7's.  The dispersion patterns are tight with them but they are left of target for sure.  I'm very hopeful that less offset will bring that dispersion pattern closer to center.  The lofts are also a bit weaker head to head with the D7 forged.  Strong compared to a player's club but weak compared to a modern GI or Super GI (if that category really exists anymore.)  The lofts are quite similar to the G30's actually and I love the way I launch those.  I just hate the way they look and I have very little ability to flight the ball down with them.   

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12 hours ago, revkev said:

In this test I intend to compare this iron with my current gamer, the Ping G30, as well as the regular D7 that I was considering moving to before being selected for this test.

Most excellent that we'll see a comparison with the original D7's!   

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12 hours ago, Thin2win said:

Just means we need to do a golf event before you head south

Funny you mention that... I'm thinking a Boise Roundup once the smoke clears. 👍

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1 hour ago, russtopherb said:

A belated happy anniversary @revkev! Love the pics, you can really see the offset difference between the D7 and the D7 forged in the side by side view. Definitely curious to see what sort of ballflight differences you see between the two lines.

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3 hours ago, Thin2win said:

Adding a couple ball flight videos:straight, L -> R, R -> L. And a bonus. 

Hole 2: need a slight draw, 6i off the tee. 

 

 

Hole #3, Left rough 140y 9i. Hoping for a straight ball flight.

 

Hole #4, right rough needing a L -> R ball flight, 8i ~150y

 

The follow up shot, Hole #4, Gap Wedge from just off the green:

 

I'm glad that chip in was saved until now and not during our BIG $$$ match in Idaho 🤣. Looking like they respond to ball flight commands pretty darn well.  Any initial impressions on distance?  Also, your backswing in these videos seems much shorter than I recall when we've played.    

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37 minutes ago, greggarner said:

Well friends, it's looking like Sally is going to interrupt my original plan, so I wanted to go ahead and get you my first on-course assessment. After 5 consecutive hours of Zoom calls, I snuck out for a quick 9. I wasn't the only one with this plan and there was a group behind me, or else I would have tried to set up my tripod and record some shots. Maybe next time 🙂

Walking up to the first tee completely cold and typically I need about 3 holes for my swing to loosen up and my distances to come up to baseline. I tried to take that into consideration but, well, you'll see... Nothing of note on #1 other than I tried to hit PW uphill to a back flag and absolutely spun the cover off it, down to the bottom tier of a really big green complex. Yay, 3-putts...

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#2 is the 3 handicap. It needs a great tee shot and then you have to navigate a 3-tiered green with some wicked slopes. Sets up great for a little baby draw and, well, I hit two 8s that both gently fell to the right and ended up 18 inches apart, both right next to their ballmarks. When I'm warmed up, my 8i is a pretty standard 140-145, so a cold 142  caught my attention.

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#3 is a tricky par 3 with a brutal right to left slope and always plays a half to full club longer. Based on the last hole, I decide not to club-up. Good thing...

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#4 is a sharp dogleg with a hill that will roll any drive that tries to cut the corner. Oops... too close to hit the D7 this time!  But it's hard to be mad about a 3-foot birdie putt.

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#5 starts a stretch that takes driver out of your hands (arguably I shouldn't use driver on #4 either). Really poor 4w that missed the fairway and nestled down into the Bermuda rough. 9i said, "I got this." Powered right through with no issue. I might have eased up just a bit for fear of blasting over the green, which is death. Ended up on the (correct) back tier with about 25 feet for bird and left it on the lip.

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#6 par three that needs a draw. It's basically a cliff long and right and a hill left will feed misses back to the green. Hit two shots; the first was just long but straight and the second I tried to hit a sweepy draw and over-cooked it (good sign in terms of workability). I'm now warmed up and squarely in the "yeah, these are long" camp. But honestly, I think most of the distance gains are from a lowered ball flight. 

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#7 is typically a 4-iron off the tee. 215 runs through the fairway and unless you're feeling really good about a sharply-hooked driver, the green isn't driveable. I decide to back off to a 5-iron, trying to leave myself a PW in. This does not go to plan. But man does it feel good. Then my sucked back too far and I missed what should have been an easy birdie.

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#8 is a real SOB. Par is a great score here. With a great drive, you've still got a mid-to-long iron uphill to a 3-tiered green. According to Arccos, I hit this GiR about 20% of the time compared to my overall average of 50% GiR. Based on my approach yardage, I would have pulled 5 iron in my Ping set, to a front flag. I hit 6 and it one-hop and stops.

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#9 is a three-shot par 5 with a big uphill drive, downhill layup, then uphill approach. Toe-y drive and then a slightly toe-y 8i. Then thinned a PW. Dropped another ball and hit it decently well, but pulled. Dropped a third ball and landed it within a foot of the second ball. At least the irons are consistent 😄 

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Once Sally clears out (Saturday? ish?) I'll get back out there and hopefully shoot some video. But for now, it looks like I can reliably plan on ~10 more yards with equivalent stopping power and a much, much lower ballflight. 

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So first and foremost, between @Thin2win and @MattF, if I do any videos or pictures with me in them, I'll need to step up my hat game.

I hoped to get out on the range or the course while my daughter was in another class tonight.  But they were short a coach, so I stepped in.  She and I played the pitch-n-putt course after class, so I grabbed the gap wedge and putter and headed out.

Let's be frank, this isn't really a wedge.  It's an 11 iron.  It's a very nice 11 iron, and I hit several really good full shots with this 11 iron last night.  It's not a shovel like the gap wedge from my old Mizuno MX-200 set, but it's definitely another iron in the set.

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From left:  Mizuno MX-200 (shovel), Wilson D7 Forged (11 iron), Cobra King F8 (gap wedge)

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From left:  Cobra King F8 (gap wedge), Wilson D7 Forged (11 iron), Mizuno MX-200 (shovel)

 

So while full shots with the D7 are great, it really doesn't like being opened up a little, choked up a little or taking a little off of it.  Now here's the question, do I really care?  I mean, I can hit a Sand Wedge instead.  I really don't hit anything but full shots with a gap wedge unless that's the only club I'm carrying.  But if that's an issue for you, you might not want to buy the gap wedge.  Brief tangent - I really liked with Cobra did with the F8 wedges, but I suppose that wasn't popular enough.

 

On 9/15/2020 at 8:54 PM, JohnSmalls said:

Could you guys please do side by side comparison photos like @greggarner did? 

Let's look at sole width

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The D7 really isn't any narrower than the F8 it's replacing, and it's a little wider than my older daughter's AP1.  If you're looking for a wide platform, don't rule out the D7 Forged.  

 

12 hours ago, xOldBenKenobiX said:

Tough outing, I do hope that the next few ones will be better, about being short, what are the differences between the lofts of the Wilson's and your other clubs?

  Cobra F8 Wilson D7 Forged Cobra F8 Wilson D7 Forged
Iron Loft Loft Length Length
4 19.5° 21.5° 39.50" 39.00"
5 22.5° 24.5° 38.75" 38.50"
6 25.5° 27.5° 38.00" 38.00"
7 29.5° 30.5° 37.50" 37.50"
8 34.0° 34.5° 37.00" 37.00"
9 39.0° 39.0° 36.50" 36.50"
PW 44.0° 44.0° 36.25" 36.00"
GW 49.0° 49.0° 36.00" 35.75"

Here are the lofts and lengths.  What's interesting is that I first noticed the yardage difference with the 8 iron.  It's not like it was the 4 iron, where there's a big difference.  Looking at the loft gapping, I really like Wilson's gapping better.  I have a pretty big gap between my 6 and 7 irons with the F8s.  I'm hoping the tighter loft gapping will reduce that a bit.

Other than the little mishap with the range balls, I didn't think it was a bad first outing at all.  I was pretty pleased.  

 

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1 hour ago, greggarner said:

it looks like I can reliably plan on ~10 more yards with equivalent stopping power and a much, much lower ballflight. 

How do the lofts compare to your prior set?  It's interesting that you're getting 10 more yards and a lower ball flight, where I'm getting about 5-7 yards less (no big deal) and a higher ball flight (a huge deal, and definitely needed)

 

1 hour ago, dlow206 said:

I once took a Zoom call (audio only) while on the course, with carefully muting during swings. Those shots I hit while on the call were some of the best shots I have hit. Wasn't thinking about the shots, was trying to pay attention to the call.

When I ran application development for the Virginia Retirement System, we had a monthly conference call at 6pm on a Wednesday when we installed application changes.  For the 14 months I worked there, I think I played during at least 10 of them.  And those installs all went well.

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3 Hybrid (19*) - :taylormade-small: RBZ
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