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curious if anyone games a 5 wedge setup. i’m playing around with the idea myself.

i’ll likely go set PW, 48, 52, 56, 60 and see how that works out

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Are you playing a 44* PW?

For me 5 is overkill and you'll have a lot of overlapping distances between all those wedges.

Perhaps consider PW (assuming it's 44) 50, 54, 58 or PW, 48, 54, 60?

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6 hours ago, Chip Strokes said:

curious if anyone games a 5 wedge setup. i’m playing around with the idea myself.

i’ll likely go set PW, 48, 52, 56, 60 and see how that works out

My set PW is 47* and set Gap is 50.5* so my wedges at 54* sand and 60* lob give me all the short game options I need just by manipulating the face. 

I used to carry a 72* ultra lob as well which did make up 5 wedges but, it was extreme overkill that worked out less often than I hoped. 

If you look at sets out there with 38-44* PW the gaps are usually 5-6* in the wedges. 

44-49-54-60 would make more sense - like @Kanoitohad already said. 

The issue becomes more about a bottleneck somewhere in your bag where giving up the 5th wedge will have more gain on the other end in the woods or hybrids. 

Common setup for fairway wood lovers: D, 3w, 5w, 4h, 5-p, 49, 54, 60 & putter

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My setup: D, 5w, 4h, 4 driving iron, 5-gap, 54, 60 & putter

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i’ve definitely considered 5 being overkill and i’ve thought of the overlapping yardages but maybe i can explain why i’m thinking about going with a 5th wedge

 

at the top of my bag, i’ve got a driver and a 3h. i don’t carry a 3w, it’s a club i just can’t hit and have found a way to not really need. 

then i’m gonna carry 4-P, with the 44* PW being a 155-160yd club. 

that leaves a lot of meat on the bottom end of the bag, and it also leaves me with 6 slots. so i figured i’d carry the 5 wedges and see what does and doesn’t work, and adjust from there. 

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i’ve definitely considered 5 being overkill and i’ve thought of the overlapping yardages but maybe i can explain why i’m thinking about going with a 5th wedge
 
at the top of my bag, i’ve got a driver and a 3h. i don’t carry a 3w, it’s a club i just can’t hit and have found a way to not really need. 
then i’m gonna carry 4-P, with the 44* PW being a 155-160yd club. 
that leaves a lot of meat on the bottom end of the bag, and it also leaves me with 6 slots. so i figured i’d carry the 5 wedges and see what does and doesn’t work, and adjust from there. 

I think that is a logical strategy. The goal of setting up a bag is to be able to cover specific distances. If you are happy with the top end of your bag, go ahead and fill the bottom of the bag with more wedges.

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8 hours ago, Chip Strokes said:

curious if anyone games a 5 wedge setup. i’m playing around with the idea myself.

i’ll likely go set PW, 48, 52, 56, 60 and see how that works out

That's exactly what I have

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4 minutes ago, tony@CIC said:

That's exactly what I have

awesome. what club did your 5th wedge replace? how’s the setup working out?

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1 minute ago, Chip Strokes said:

awesome. what club did your 5th wedge replace? how’s the setup working out?

Took my 6i out of the bag, since on most courses I play I didn't need it. The W and GP are part of my new King SZ irons, 52 and 56 are RTX 3.0 and my favorite wedge and most used 65 yds in is my Ping Glide 3.0 EYE2. 

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My PW is 44* and I have a 50, 56 and 60 wedge set. I am thinking of switching my 56 to a 54. My 44 and 50 are full shots and my 56 and 60 are my half and full swing clubs (Still learning my full swing 60 shots).

If you have some of them that you do a full swing on and hit consistent distances, and some other wedges are more of a feel half swing club, then I say use all 5. What ever gets you the required results. 

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5 hours ago, Chip Strokes said:

i’ve definitely considered 5 being overkill and i’ve thought of the overlapping yardages but maybe i can explain why i’m thinking about going with a 5th wedge

 

at the top of my bag, i’ve got a driver and a 3h. i don’t carry a 3w, it’s a club i just can’t hit and have found a way to not really need. 

then i’m gonna carry 4-P, with the 44* PW being a 155-160yd club. 

that leaves a lot of meat on the bottom end of the bag, and it also leaves me with 6 slots. so i figured i’d carry the 5 wedges and see what does and doesn’t work, and adjust from there. 

I don't think 5 is overkill. It has nothing to do with 5 "wedges" it is ALL about gaping. If you can cover your gaps then it doesn't matter if it says wedge or not on it. I think it is going to become a lot more common going forward as PW keep getting stronger. 

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30 minutes ago, THEZIPR23 said:

I don't think 5 is overkill. It has nothing to do with 5 "wedges" it is ALL about gaping. If you can cover your gaps then it doesn't matter if it says wedge or not on it. I think it is going to become a lot more common going forward as PW keep getting stronger. 

that’s the issue. my PW carries 160 so i’ve got some serious gaps to cover at the bottom of the bag.

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6 hours ago, Chip Strokes said:

i’ve definitely considered 5 being overkill and i’ve thought of the overlapping yardages but maybe i can explain why i’m thinking about going with a 5th wedge

 

at the top of my bag, i’ve got a driver and a 3h. i don’t carry a 3w, it’s a club i just can’t hit and have found a way to not really need. 

then i’m gonna carry 4-P, with the 44* PW being a 155-160yd club. 

that leaves a lot of meat on the bottom end of the bag, and it also leaves me with 6 slots. so i figured i’d carry the 5 wedges and see what does and doesn’t work, and adjust from there. 

Makes more sense without any fairway woods. 

Someday you may figure out the long club and need the slot. 

I love my 5w and don't carry a 3w because the gaps between the two wasn't big enough. I found the 5w easier to hit too.

A 2 driving iron also is a good 3w replacement for some people. 

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20 minutes ago, Buffly said:

Makes more sense without any fairway woods. 

Someday you may figure out the long club and need the slot. 

I love my 5w and don't carry a 3w because the gaps between the two wasn't big enough. I found the 5w easier to hit too.

A 2 driving iron also is a good 3w replacement for some people. 

i’ve been looking at driving irons to fill that slot, but for now i manage well without it. 

im sure the bag makeup will change 100 more times 

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On 9/4/2020 at 1:17 PM, Chip Strokes said:

i’ve been looking at driving irons to fill that slot, but for now i manage well without it. 

im sure the bag makeup will change 100 more times 

I replaced my 3w with a 5th wedge because I had a 2 driving iron that goes 250-270 yards. I do have 5 wedges also going pw(44 degree), gw(49 degree), 52, 56 and 60. The gap from my gap to 56 left me either having to 3/4 swing a gap and really get after it with the 56 and just felt the 52 benefit me more the my 3 iron did. Current setup is d, 2 iron, 4-gw, 52, 56, 60 and putter. I can’t hit 3 woods either so my 2 iron replaced it and I find myself using it more then my driver a lot of the time. Have considered switching out 4 iron for a 3/4 iron hybrid but not sure yet. 

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On 9/3/2020 at 5:04 PM, Chip Strokes said:

curious if anyone games a 5 wedge setup. i’m playing around with the idea myself.

i’ll likely go set PW, 48, 52, 56, 60 and see how that works out

This is my exact set up. My pw is 45* so the 48* is pretty close to the same, but it’s been working well for me. The pw is from the set and the 48* is different so they seem to covers the gaps well. 

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Stronger lofts on modern iron sets necessitate this for me. I have a Mavrik Max iron set that I use the pitching wedge from (43 degrees = 140 yd club). Then I have a 46 (120-130), 50 (110-115), 54 (95-100) and 60 (utility) all Cleveland RTX Zipcore. With my yardage I’m in this range all the time so this way more sense than having a 4-iron in the bag… My 5-iron goes 205, and 4-hybrid 215-225. Is also say knowing the half swing, 3/4 swing, and full swing for all 5 takes a lot of guesswork out of my <100 yd game, which has improved my scrambling and GIR immensely. 

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I carry a 44* PW, 52* AW, 56* SW, 60* LW and seldom use my 60* unless I am behind a bunker and need to flop it on to the green but I can simply open up my 56* wedge so I am thinking about getting rid of my 52/60 wedges and replacing them with a 50* AW, so I have a 44PW, 50AW and 56SW.  For my short game I think this will fit me better than having more wedges I probably won't use as much. 

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I have carried 5 in the past but I would have to take something out of the bag on the other end. I carry a PW & GW which match my irons and act as a 10 and 11 iron.  I then have a 52 & 56 SM8.  I use to have a 60 but don't have enough room in the bag for one anymore.  

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I carry 5 wedges with the 43* PW ( nine iron) I had to add a 48* wedge 52* 56* and 60* I am in my late 50’s and my drives only go out to around 260 yds now. So a 5w goes 220 or choke down and hit 205. Then it’s a 20* hybrid 5-PW and the wedges. Since going this route I concentrate on laying up to comfortable distances and play my second shot within yardages I am confident with. 160 yds in usually a 7 iron through wedges. I rarely use the 60* except for green side bunkers or short sided shots. 52* and 56* is what I use the most around greens and from 100 yds in. I spend 75% of my practice in the short game area at my course. I also use only balls I play with when I work on short game. I have gotten to the point the driver through 6 iron are clubs to use to cover distance. My short game has improved so much over the last year that I don’t worry with missing greens and can usually get up and down with great success. Until adding the 5th wedge and dropping the 3w and 4i I would shoot mid 80s playing at a 13 hdcp. This last year I have dropped to a 5.3 hdcp and still playing at 6400 to 6700 yds. Blue tees. Give it a shot you may find that you score better when you quit worrying about distance. 

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With a 42º 9-iron, as is still available in the weaker lofted, less GI offerings,

I'm good as long as I bypass the set-matching wedges (46°PW / 50°GW)

and go to a 48-54-60 set.  That provides not horribly big 6º gaps from 9-iron to lob wedge.

 

With a 9-iron of less than forty degrees, however, as we now see on the GI models,

I can't configure anything approaching a normal looking golf set.

 

People are good with four or five wedgs now, so I guess that it's not a problem.

Still something that I try to avoid, however,

as I like to have at least one club's worth of long-iron / lofted wood overlap on the long end of the set.

 

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14 hours ago, BostonSal said:

With a 42º 9-iron, as is still available in the weaker lofted, less GI offerings,

I'm good as long as I bypass the set-matching wedges (46°PW / 50°GW)

and go to a 48-54-60 set.  That provides not horribly big 6º gaps from 9-iron to lob wedge.

 

With a 9-iron of less than forty degrees, however, as we now see on the GI models,

I can't configure anything approaching a normal looking golf set.

 

People are good with four or five wedgs now, so I guess that it's not a problem.

Still something that I try to avoid, however,

as I like to have at least one club's worth of long-iron / lofted wood overlap on the long end of the set.

 

You should just start a thread where you list your ideal set with loft breakdowns. Maybe put it chart form. Would be pretty unique. 

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Titleist, with it's current T-Series, has now made it relatively convenient to put together a complete 11-club iron set with matching shafts and grips, despite modern lofts and gappings.

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Matched with their Cart 15 StaDry bag, you'd have enough room to complete the set.   

Might be hard to do with a conforming 14 club bag.

 

But with a fifteen club bag, I could add....

 

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I play weekday morning social golf with my friends, so it's not a problem.

If I want to retool just one more time in my life, this could be the way to go for 2022.

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So TXG's video yesterday was about properly building a wedge matrix. Aka only doing 3 shots with each wedge (half, three quarter and full swings) to give you a consistent set of yardages. I think if you're comfortable at the top of your bag and your PW goes 140 plus, a five wedge bag wouldn't be a bad idea. That would give you 15 (3 x 5) different yardage between 0 and your full PW to even out the bottom of the bag.

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Ping G400 3 wood.

Cleveland Halo Launcher 3 hybrid.

Cleveland CBX launcher irons (5-PW). 

Assorted wedges (48, 52, 58).

Odyssey White Hot Pro 2.0 putter.

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As club manufacturers continue to deloft irons, just wait and one day we'll all be carrying 9 wedges. At that point the 9 iron will have a 21º loft, and old timers will claim they can't hit a "9 iron" and opt for a hybrid instead. [Sorry, couldn't resist...]

And for those who scoff, no one carried more than 2 wedges at one time, a PW and a SW. Now we're debating 3, 4 or 5 wedges.

And now we have a new class of clubs - utility irons. More marketing nonsense...instead of offering 2 and 3 irons with iron sets, we get to buy another class of club if we want long irons.

Where we once had wood sets, iron sets and putters - we now have drivers, fairway woods, hybrids, utility irons, iron sets, specialty wedges and putters. Some progress, lots of marketing hype?

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42 minutes ago, MNUte said:

So TXG's video yesterday was about properly building a wedge matrix. Aka only doing 3 shots with each wedge (half, three quarter and full swings) to give you a consistent set of yardages. I think if you're comfortable at the top of your bag and your PW goes 140 plus, a five wedge bag wouldn't be a bad idea. That would give you 15 (3 x 5) different yardage between 0 and your full PW to even out the bottom of the bag.

But, but, but that’s too mechanical 🤣

 

18 minutes ago, Middler said:

As club manufacturers continue to deloft irons, just wait and one day we'll all be carrying 9 wedges. At that point the 9 iron will have a 21º loft, and old timers will claim they can't hit a "9 iron" and opt for a hybrid instead. [Sorry, couldn't resist...].

Everyone just needs to become a good wedge player 😂. Every hole is driver/wedge.   Beginning to think that changing the numbers/letters on the bottom is just to make the golf course traditionalists mad and support the people hit clubs too far narrative.   Maybe you are on to something with your statement, companies are getting out of the iron set business and just going to sell fairways, hybrids, and wedges.  This supports the I need specific lofts in my bag group and gets rid of the numbers on the bottom.   Ben Hogan golf was ahead of its time.  😁

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11 minutes ago, cnosil said:

But, but, but that’s too mechanical 🤣

Right???
 

The pro they brought in for the vid said the same thing, where he teaches it to pros and lower handicappers and they're like "this is too easy." 🤣 Really? You're complaining that golf is too easy? Sign me up for only 3 swings to give me full, repeatable and accurate gapping from 130 (my full PW) in. Hell, I'll even take the pros advice and write the matrix on an index card to make it even more mechanical and easy when I'm on the course. 

Rag tag bag, but it does the job. 

Taylormade R1 driver.

Ping G400 3 wood.

Cleveland Halo Launcher 3 hybrid.

Cleveland CBX launcher irons (5-PW). 

Assorted wedges (48, 52, 58).

Odyssey White Hot Pro 2.0 putter.

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1 hour ago, MNUte said:

Right???
 

The pro they brought in for the vid said the same thing, where he teaches it to pros and lower handicappers and they're like "this is too easy." 🤣 Really? You're complaining that golf is too easy? Sign me up for only 3 swings to give me full, repeatable and accurate gapping from 130 (my full PW) in. Hell, I'll even take the pros advice and write the matrix on an index card to make it even more mechanical and easy when I'm on the course. 

Naaw man save a tree just write the distances on the back of your irons with a Sharpie like Lee Westwood does

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I am going to give 5 wedges a try for the beginning of next season.  

PW - 45* P790, 130-145 yards

AW - 50* P790, 115-130 yards

52 - Cleveland RTX4, 95-110 yards

56 - Cleveland RTX4, 0-95 yards

I'm adding a 60 degree as a final club in my bag.  I had an older hybrid, but it was being overlapped on distance by my new 4 and 5 irons.  Although I have a gap between 4 iron and 3 wood, I rarely find myself in that range.  I'm sure a new hybrid or driving iron would take care of that gap, but I think I'd get more use out of a 60 degree wedge around the green.  

That TXG video came out at the perfect time because I was just discussing wanting to dial in partial wedge distances for next season.  The matrix is a great and simple way to accomplish it.  

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3 hours ago, BIG STU said:

Naaw man save a tree just write the distances on the back of your irons with a Sharpie like Lee Westwood does

But if I kill a tree for my distances, it means there might be one less tree in front of my ball when I shank my tee shot. 🙃

Rag tag bag, but it does the job. 

Taylormade R1 driver.

Ping G400 3 wood.

Cleveland Halo Launcher 3 hybrid.

Cleveland CBX launcher irons (5-PW). 

Assorted wedges (48, 52, 58).

Odyssey White Hot Pro 2.0 putter.

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