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With a 42º 9-iron, as is still available in the weaker lofted, less GI offerings,

I'm good as long as I bypass the set-matching wedges (46°PW / 50°GW)

and go to a 48-54-60 set.  That provides not horribly big 6º gaps from 9-iron to lob wedge.

 

With a 9-iron of less than forty degrees, however, as we now see on the GI models,

I can't configure anything approaching a normal looking golf set.

 

People are good with four or five wedgs now, so I guess that it's not a problem.

Still something that I try to avoid, however,

as I like to have at least one club's worth of long-iron / lofted wood overlap on the long end of the set.

 

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14 hours ago, BostonSal said:

With a 42º 9-iron, as is still available in the weaker lofted, less GI offerings,

I'm good as long as I bypass the set-matching wedges (46°PW / 50°GW)

and go to a 48-54-60 set.  That provides not horribly big 6º gaps from 9-iron to lob wedge.

 

With a 9-iron of less than forty degrees, however, as we now see on the GI models,

I can't configure anything approaching a normal looking golf set.

 

People are good with four or five wedgs now, so I guess that it's not a problem.

Still something that I try to avoid, however,

as I like to have at least one club's worth of long-iron / lofted wood overlap on the long end of the set.

 

You should just start a thread where you list your ideal set with loft breakdowns. Maybe put it chart form. Would be pretty unique. 

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Titleist, with it's current T-Series, has now made it relatively convenient to put together a complete 11-club iron set with matching shafts and grips, despite modern lofts and gappings.

Titleist U505___2, 3, 4-irons  //  Mitsubishi Kuro Kage

Titleist T200___5-iron  //  Mitsubishi Kuro Kage

Titleist T100___6, 7, 8, 9-irons  //  Mitsubishi Kuro Kage

Titleist T100S___48° GW  //  Mitsubishi Kuro Kage

Titleist SM8___54-10,  60-04   //  Mitsubishi Kuro Kage

Matched with their Cart 15 StaDry bag, you'd have enough room to complete the set.   

Might be hard to do with a conforming 14 club bag.

 

But with a fifteen club bag, I could add....

 

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Titleist TSi2___16.5°  //  Aldila Tour Blue 65

Callaway Epic Heavenwood___20°  // Callaway RCH 65

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Very playable set for me, although I wouldn't really need all three U-505 utility irons.   I like the deuce as a driving iron, but I  don't like holes in a set, either. 

I play weekday morning social golf with my friends, so it's not a problem.

If I want to retool just one more time in my life, this could be the way to go for 2022.

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So TXG's video yesterday was about properly building a wedge matrix. Aka only doing 3 shots with each wedge (half, three quarter and full swings) to give you a consistent set of yardages. I think if you're comfortable at the top of your bag and your PW goes 140 plus, a five wedge bag wouldn't be a bad idea. That would give you 15 (3 x 5) different yardage between 0 and your full PW to even out the bottom of the bag.

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Ping G400 3 wood.

Cleveland Halo Launcher 3 hybrid.

Cleveland CBX launcher irons (5-PW). 

Assorted wedges (48, 52, 58).

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As club manufacturers continue to deloft irons, just wait and one day we'll all be carrying 9 wedges. At that point the 9 iron will have a 21º loft, and old timers will claim they can't hit a "9 iron" and opt for a hybrid instead. [Sorry, couldn't resist...]

And for those who scoff, no one carried more than 2 wedges at one time, a PW and a SW. Now we're debating 3, 4 or 5 wedges.

And now we have a new class of clubs - utility irons. More marketing nonsense...instead of offering 2 and 3 irons with iron sets, we get to buy another class of club if we want long irons.

Where we once had wood sets, iron sets and putters - we now have drivers, fairway woods, hybrids, utility irons, iron sets, specialty wedges and putters. Some progress, lots of marketing hype?

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42 minutes ago, MNUte said:

So TXG's video yesterday was about properly building a wedge matrix. Aka only doing 3 shots with each wedge (half, three quarter and full swings) to give you a consistent set of yardages. I think if you're comfortable at the top of your bag and your PW goes 140 plus, a five wedge bag wouldn't be a bad idea. That would give you 15 (3 x 5) different yardage between 0 and your full PW to even out the bottom of the bag.

But, but, but that’s too mechanical 🤣

 

18 minutes ago, Middler said:

As club manufacturers continue to deloft irons, just wait and one day we'll all be carrying 9 wedges. At that point the 9 iron will have a 21º loft, and old timers will claim they can't hit a "9 iron" and opt for a hybrid instead. [Sorry, couldn't resist...].

Everyone just needs to become a good wedge player 😂. Every hole is driver/wedge.   Beginning to think that changing the numbers/letters on the bottom is just to make the golf course traditionalists mad and support the people hit clubs too far narrative.   Maybe you are on to something with your statement, companies are getting out of the iron set business and just going to sell fairways, hybrids, and wedges.  This supports the I need specific lofts in my bag group and gets rid of the numbers on the bottom.   Ben Hogan golf was ahead of its time.  😁

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11 minutes ago, cnosil said:

But, but, but that’s too mechanical 🤣

Right???
 

The pro they brought in for the vid said the same thing, where he teaches it to pros and lower handicappers and they're like "this is too easy." 🤣 Really? You're complaining that golf is too easy? Sign me up for only 3 swings to give me full, repeatable and accurate gapping from 130 (my full PW) in. Hell, I'll even take the pros advice and write the matrix on an index card to make it even more mechanical and easy when I'm on the course. 

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Rag tag bag, but it does the job. 

Taylormade R1 driver.

Ping G400 3 wood.

Cleveland Halo Launcher 3 hybrid.

Cleveland CBX launcher irons (5-PW). 

Assorted wedges (48, 52, 58).

Odyssey White Hot Pro 2.0 putter.

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1 hour ago, MNUte said:

Right???
 

The pro they brought in for the vid said the same thing, where he teaches it to pros and lower handicappers and they're like "this is too easy." 🤣 Really? You're complaining that golf is too easy? Sign me up for only 3 swings to give me full, repeatable and accurate gapping from 130 (my full PW) in. Hell, I'll even take the pros advice and write the matrix on an index card to make it even more mechanical and easy when I'm on the course. 

Naaw man save a tree just write the distances on the back of your irons with a Sharpie like Lee Westwood does

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I am going to give 5 wedges a try for the beginning of next season.  

PW - 45* P790, 130-145 yards

AW - 50* P790, 115-130 yards

52 - Cleveland RTX4, 95-110 yards

56 - Cleveland RTX4, 0-95 yards

I'm adding a 60 degree as a final club in my bag.  I had an older hybrid, but it was being overlapped on distance by my new 4 and 5 irons.  Although I have a gap between 4 iron and 3 wood, I rarely find myself in that range.  I'm sure a new hybrid or driving iron would take care of that gap, but I think I'd get more use out of a 60 degree wedge around the green.  

That TXG video came out at the perfect time because I was just discussing wanting to dial in partial wedge distances for next season.  The matrix is a great and simple way to accomplish it.  

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3 hours ago, BIG STU said:

Naaw man save a tree just write the distances on the back of your irons with a Sharpie like Lee Westwood does

But if I kill a tree for my distances, it means there might be one less tree in front of my ball when I shank my tee shot. 🙃

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Taylormade R1 driver.

Ping G400 3 wood.

Cleveland Halo Launcher 3 hybrid.

Cleveland CBX launcher irons (5-PW). 

Assorted wedges (48, 52, 58).

Odyssey White Hot Pro 2.0 putter.

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I had to adjust my wedges to my new irons. The t300 lofts are crazy. My PW is now 43* and I have a set GW at 48* (essential my new PW). My wedge set up is 50*, 54* and 58* now. 

The reason for the 2* loft change from my 48* t300 wedge to my 50* Vokey wedge is the t300's are super hot and both the 48* and 50* are mainly full swing shots, so my gapping works better with these lofts. The 54* is my versatile 1/4, 1/2 and 3/4 shots from 70 yards and in, and my 58 is a K grind mainly for fluffy bunkers and rough around the greens. So including the PW I have ended up with 5 wedges. Ditched the 5 iron in my set and have a 5 and 7 wood, and a hybrid instead of my 5 iron now. 

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On 9/3/2020 at 9:04 PM, Chip Strokes said:

curious if anyone games a 5 wedge setup. i’m playing around with the idea myself.

i’ll likely go set PW, 48, 52, 56, 60 and see how that works out

That was my exact setup while I was gaming my AP3’s. With the i59 PW being 46*, I really only need 3 more wedges, a 50* & 55* to go with my 60*. I find guys who hit their driver 285+ need more wedges to score with. My opinion is I’d much rather have a full swing than a partial. But with my new set, I’m going to have to learn some 1/2 & 3/4 shots with the 50 and 55.

 

 

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Just three in my bag; 45/50/56.  I honestly don't think adding 1-2 others would be of benefit to me.  I've been looking at options to the PING Glide 56/12, mostly aimed at improved sand performance.

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The past few months I have been toying with the idea of adding a 64* wedge for my bag for situations that call for a flop shot and then being able to use a normal swing without having to play around with opening the face.

 

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28 minutes ago, PBH3 said:

The past few months I have been toying with the idea of adding a 64* wedge for my bag for situations that call for a flop shot and then being able to use a normal swing without having to play around with opening the face.

Yikes. A 58* is scary enough for me! 

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On 9/3/2020 at 10:04 PM, Chip Strokes said:

curious if anyone games a 5 wedge setup. i’m playing around with the idea myself.

i’ll likely go set PW, 48, 52, 56, 60 and see how that works out

Did you wind up going this route or some other options?  How did it work out?

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7 hours ago, JerryB said:

Did you wind up going this route or some other options?  How did it work out?

i went with a different set of irons and my pitching wedge is 46* so now i have a more traditional 4 wedge setup at 46/52/56/60

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2 hours ago, Chip Strokes said:

i went with a different set of irons and my pitching wedge is 46* so now i have a more traditional 4 wedge setup at 46/52/56/60

nice, yeah I have the 52, 56, 60 for the MIM wedges and technically have the Forged Tec set PW and GW... but the GW is 48* (minus one from standard) and the PW is 44*

As long as you get your gapping right and are comfortable hitting any shot you need with the wedges you have I've basically stopped looking at what the wedges are called, and checking the lofts, which it seems like you did too.  

 

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Like Micah above, when I was playing the Titleist AP3 irons I had to add a wedge.  The PW loft in the AP3 iron set is 43 degrees.  The gap wedge is 48 deg.  So I played a 52, 56 & 60 and it worked well.

If you want your ego stroked, that is a good set-up because when people ask what you hit you can say PW when they are hitting 8 or 9 iron.  That is about the only benefit though, because at the top end the clubs all ran together and I had trouble with the 4, 5 & 6 irons.  

I now am playing somewhat more traditional lofts.  My current PW is 46 degrees.  I am now playing 50, 54 & 58 degree wedges.  My current 6 iron has about the same loft as my old 7 iron.

I’m playing 6-PW, I also have a 5 & 6 hybrid, a 7W & 4W, driver and putter.  I substitute a 4 utility iron for the 5 hybrid depending on conditions and course.  It is humorous though when people ask me why I have a 6 iron and a 6 hybrid?  The 6 iron is 30 degrees and the 6 hybrid is 28 degrees.  The 6 iron has a 120gram stiff steel shaft and the 6 hybrid has a 60 gram stiff graphite shaft.  The 6 hybrid goes ten yards further with a much higher trajectory and a slight fade.  The 5 hybrid has an 80 gram stiff graphite shaft.  It goes 15 yards further than the 6 hybrid but with less spin, a slight draw and a lower more penetrating trajectory.  Different tools for different shots.

The moral to the story is play what gives you the best and most consistent yardage gaps.  As long as the clubs do what you want them to do by delivering the trajectory, landing angle and spin needed and you have confidence in them, then it shouldn’t matter what number it says on the bottom.   The same with shafts.  There is no standard for iron numbering or shaft rating.  

The advice that Gareth Raflewski gave the TXG guys about wedge selection and yardages for less than a full swing is pretty much the same as outlined in Dave Pelz’s Short Game Bible.

Depending on your unique launch angle, spin and carry distance you may need or want a different combinations of ball, shaft and head combination than someone else to achieve the same objective.

Tinkering is OK as long as it gives you the results you are looking for.  

Play what works for you!

 

 

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I carry 4.  My PW, Gap, 52 and 56.  I recently bought the gap wedge due to a hole in my distances.  I went by full swing distances which are as follows:

PW-135 yards

Gap-125

52-115

56 100

I just found that I had a massive hole in my set between 135-115 yards.  I didn't like changing my swing of the PW to try to baby a shot at say 127 yards, or having to really stand on my 52 to get it to maybe go 120, so I had to buy the Gap wedge to fill the need.  I will say, it is my LEAST used club in the bag.  

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