RickyBobby_PR Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 hours ago, revkev said: Back to the pros laying up to their favorite yardage discussion it's a myth perpetuated by announcers wishing to sound knowledgeable. When you watch they lay up for a reason - hazards in the way, pin cut too close to a trap to stop with ball with a part shot, that type of thing - when you listen in to their discussions with a caddy they are always trying to find a way to get as close to the green as possible first and going for the layup as the bailout option if there's too great a risk. Taylormade posted a video on YouTube today with their players hitting wedges and they talk to DJ during this and talks about his preferred distance and how he approaches different distances. Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment
cnosil Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Taylormade posted a video on YouTube today with their players hitting wedges and they talk to DJ during this and talks about his preferred distance and how he approaches different distances. I just watched that video; thought it was terrible. Interviewer: Is that a little more than 8 to 10 degrees of shaft lean? DJ:I have no idea. Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
THEZIPR23 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Cory O said: Thanks for posting this! I think it is a much more effective way of thinking about it than I was going about. I am hitting driver on pretty much every single Par 4 and 5. This pretty much always leaves me a full shot I'm comfortable with (which is why I would take the "no three putts" instead of the 300 yard drives to bring things all the way back to the start). The short 4's where my driver would leave me less than a full shot are the ones that tend to have the trouble in the driver landing zone anyways, so it makes more sense to play it back. Where I diverge from the "get it as close as you can every shot" strategy is on Par 5's with my second. On a 540 yard hole, if I have 280 in, I strongly believe my scoring will be better on average hitting my 180 club then 100 club than the 230 club and having 50. First because the 180 yard club has a better chance of succeeded for me (and much lower chance of going horribly wrong) and I don't feel like I'll do THAT much better from 50 as opposed to 100 yards to make up for that. That's just for me though, everybody has to play the game they're most confident with. Pro’s are changing the way they play par 5’s. Not apples to apples of course but there is a lot of data that suggests closer is better. cnosil and silver & black 2 Quote Stealth 2+ 9 (Diamana PD 60 S 45") Stealth 2+ 15 (Diamana PD 70 S 43") G425 19 (Raijin 2.0 85x) G425 22 (Raijin 2.0 85x) ZX7 5-9 (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM9 45 10 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 49 08 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 59 04 T (KBS 610) Spider GT Splitback 34" ProV1 #23 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment
Cory O Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 31 minutes ago, THEZIPR23 said: Pro’s are changing the way they play par 5’s. Not apples to apples of course but there is a lot of data that suggests closer is better. Cool chart! Looks like a lot of the increase is in the 29 yards or less category (basically going for it). If I had the distance to go for it in two (or when there is a Par 5 under 500 yards), I'd be going for it a lot more often. The range I personally despise (30-70 yards) has remained relatively unchanged. Firebird and cciciora13 2 Quote 2024 is the year of the short set! Driver: TaylorMade BRNR 11.5* stiff Hybrid: PXG 0311 GEN5 19* Irons: JustGolf Forged Blades (4, 6, 8, PW) Wedge: 56* Forged Prototype Putter: PXG Blackjack Center Shaft 34" Bag: Sunday Golf Loma XL Link to comment
Firebird Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 NO more three putts - I can hit a drive 300yds and if there is one thing that get me angry with myself is hitting a par 5 green in 2 or having a 20ft put for birdie and 3 putting. Particularly when one of my best clubs is my putter. Cory O and Micah T 2 Quote Callaway Epic Flash 9 Degree Callaway Epic Flash 3 wood 15 Degree Callaway Apex 21 Hybrid 19 Degree Callaway Steelhead Pro 4-AW Irons Cleveland 54 Degree Wedge Steel Shaft Recoil Graphite Shafts in all Callaway Cobra Vintage Series Stingray 40 Preferred ball - Seed 001 Link to comment
Chip Strokes Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, cnosil said: I just watched that video; thought it was terrible. Interviewer: Is that a little more than 8 to 10 degrees of shaft lean? DJ:I have no idea. he’s not the most eloquent guy, that’s for sure. at the beginning of the video he seemed annoyed about being interviewed but actually ended up having a decent back and forth with the guy. Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment
cnosil Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said: he’s not the most eloquent guy, that’s for sure. at the beginning of the video he seemed annoyed about being interviewed but actually ended up having a decent back and forth with the guy. In my opinion, the big thing it shows is that golfers can hit shots and play good golf, but they don't know everything about how they actually hit the shots, their numbers, and all about equipment. Some players do; Tiger is an example,, but I would guess that the majority have no clue or even want to know. HardcoreLooper 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
Chip Strokes Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Just now, cnosil said: In my opinion, the big thing it shows is that golfers can hit shots and play good golf, but they don't know everything about how they actually hit the shots, their numbers, and all about equipment. Some players do; Tiger is an example,, but I would guess that the majority have no clue or even want to know. pretty standard across all sports. you’ve got guys who are extremely data driven and analytical and really dig into the process, and some who can’t be bothered with all that but just need to know that it works when it counts. silver & black and cnosil 2 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment
cnosil Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said: pretty standard across all sports. you’ve got guys who are extremely data driven and analytical and really dig into the process, and some who can’t be bothered with all that but just need to know that it works when it counts. yep. Just kind of reminded me of Faldo's commentary on Bryson and graphite wedge shafts and how people thought that Faldo has to be right because he was a pro golfer. Chip Strokes, HardcoreLooper and THEZIPR23 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
Micah T Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 I honestly don’t know which to choose : my avg drive is 285 and I 3 putt about once a round. But when do I 3 putt? Usually on a par 5 that I reached in 2... But generally speaking, the harder the course, the more I’ll 3 putt. Not sure how many strokes I’d save by being 15 yards closer on 12-14 holes, but I know eliminating 3 putts would save me at least an entire stroke each round: more if I’m playing a difficult course. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Driver - Cobra LtDxLS 3 Wood - Ping g410 LST 2iron - Titleist U505 Irons - Ping i59 Wedges - Vokey Sm9 Putter - Mizuno Mcraft IV Link to comment
RickyBobby_PR Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 hours ago, cnosil said: I just watched that video; thought it was terrible. Interviewer: Is that a little more than 8 to 10 degrees of shaft lean? DJ:I have no idea. Yeah the guy was asking some dumb questions. I liked it just for listening to dj talk about his approach to hitting the shots Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment
carfig Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I’ll take 299 and no 3 putts..everSent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy silver & black 1 Quote Irons: Mizuno MP53 Stiff/standard Hybrid: 4I Driver: Ping G25 9 degree, stiff Wedges: 52, 56, 60 Select Roundback 2014 Link to comment
Cory O Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, carfig said: I’ll take 299 and no 3 putts..ever Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Let’s be fair and call it 290...(carry naturally) carfig 1 Quote 2024 is the year of the short set! Driver: TaylorMade BRNR 11.5* stiff Hybrid: PXG 0311 GEN5 19* Irons: JustGolf Forged Blades (4, 6, 8, PW) Wedge: 56* Forged Prototype Putter: PXG Blackjack Center Shaft 34" Bag: Sunday Golf Loma XL Link to comment
Peaksy68 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Definitely taking the 300 yards. It's rare for me to have more than 1 3 putt in a round, so that would save me minimal shots. Hitting 3 clubs less into the green would likely save me several shots a round. Unlike many people, I don't often hit it 300. It needs some wind or slope helping, or it's the extremely rare "how did I do that?" swing that I wish I could replicate. The only guys I've seen do it consistently have all been plus markers and they play a totally different game than me. Shapotomous and HardcoreLooper 2 Quote 849 Pro Evenflow Riptide 6.0 F8 3 & 5 Woods Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0 TS2 7 Wood Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0 MP18 MMC - Project X LZ 5.5 Zipcore Wedges 50,54,58 - Project X LZ 5.5 MLA Tour Mallet 33" Z Star Pioneer bag buggy Link to comment
HeathS16 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 No three putts, honestly makes me more angry and a hooked drive Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Driver: TSi3 Tester Check out the Review HERE 2-Iron- 699-U 5-Wood: Pro (18*) Irons : i210 4-PW Wedges: RTX-4 50* and 54* RTX-3 *58 Putter: Impact No. 3 Ball: MAXFLI TOUR Tracked by: Bag: BagBoy ZTF Stand Bag (REVIEW HERE) Link to comment
cciciora13 Posted September 13, 2020 Author Share Posted September 13, 2020 Love all the discussion that this fun little post brought out. Seems as if in today's PGA, distance is King. GolfSpy_SHARK and Cory O 2 Quote In my bag: Driver: Ben Hogan GS53 10.5* Stiff Mitsubishi tensei blue Stiff 3 Wood: 939 x 15 deg. UST Proforce Black V2 7F4 stiff Hybrid: 939x Hybrid UST 680 recoil shaft stiff Irons: 699 irons 4-PW KBS tour 90 v Stiff 50 Deg: TAIII Satin 54 deg: TAIII Satin 58 Deg: TAIII Satin Putter: 004 Single Bend Masters Edition Rangefinder: Caddytek V2 Check out my MyGolfSpy 2020 Forum Official Tester: Ben Hogan GS53 Driver Link to comment
fixyurdivot Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 On 9/10/2020 at 5:05 AM, palvord said: 300yd drives. I gotta give myself the best chance to score the lowest number possible, and that's what distance does. I'll gladly three putt once or twice per round if it meant I was hitting 300yd drives. Yea, I think the argument for no 3 putt is the most logical - it is most likely going to improve scoring more often. That said, having just played a round with a former professional player who was rocketing 300+ yard drives off into the rocky mountain stratosphere, and whose was putting for eagles on two of the par 5's, being a BIG distance player (with decent or better accuracy) is definitely an advantage. Even his sprayed drives cleared the strategically placed tree lines and hazards the course designer intended to capture. So, I'd like both please. palvord, Shapotomous and GolfSpy_SHARK 2 1 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment
GolfSpy_SHARK Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 I am typically close to 300ish and am currently about 56% fairways. There are rounds where putting is lights out and others where I just can’t get it down. I would take no 3 putts, I can deal with scrambling to get on the green but 3 putts derail me mentally sometimes. fixyurdivot 1 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review I MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review 2022 Forged Tec's Official Review I Nitron Push Cart Official Review WITB: Weapons of grass destruction (link to WITB) Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green U505 Driving Iron 17* - Project X HZRDUS Black SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2022 King Forged Tec's 4-PW - KBS $ Tape 130 48 (SM8), 52 & 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Are you a veteran? Check out the Veterans Golf Association (VGA) Thread! Link to comment
silver & black Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 I'm going to renege on my earlier post a bit. If I could be relatively certain that 300 yard drives would be playable most of the time, I would probably opt for the distance. 300 yard drives are useless if you have to punch out of the trees or are in a hazard..... or playing from the adjacent fairway over trees. For me, I think no 3 putts would lead to better scores... unless I could be fairly accurate with 300 yard drives. GolfSpy_SHARK 1 Quote Link to comment
GolfSpy_SHARK Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 On 9/10/2020 at 11:42 AM, The 19th Hole said: While I agree that people should practice the shorter shots more than they currently do, I disagree that it is always easier to be closer. Even watching the tour, they don't always just hit it as close as possible. They lay up to "their number". differences in people's swings and comfort levels as well as pin locations and green firmness will determine the best place to lay up from. There are for sure times I would much rather have a full swing in so that I don't have to think about back swing length, or so I can get extra height on the ball, or so I can generate more spin. I am in this boat. My around the green has gotten much better past few years but I’ll take a 100 yard full shot over a partial 60* from 50. Lots of discussion about taking things out of play as well here. This was driven home on my irons only round in CCC4....lowest score of the year because I was planning full shots, don’t need to be closer to the hole to score (again just me everyone’s game is different) Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review I MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review 2022 Forged Tec's Official Review I Nitron Push Cart Official Review WITB: Weapons of grass destruction (link to WITB) Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green U505 Driving Iron 17* - Project X HZRDUS Black SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2022 King Forged Tec's 4-PW - KBS $ Tape 130 48 (SM8), 52 & 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Are you a veteran? Check out the Veterans Golf Association (VGA) Thread! Link to comment
Chip Strokes Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, Lacassem said: I am in this boat. My around the green has gotten much better past few years but I’ll take a 100 yard full shot over a partial 60* from 50. Lots of discussion about taking things out of play as well here. This was driven home on my irons only round in CCC4....lowest score of the year because I was planning full shots, don’t need to be closer to the hole to score (again just me everyone’s game is different) crazy how everyone plays such a different game. i can put a 40-50 yard chip where i want it most of the time, and tend to miss more from 100-120 with a full wedge shot going deeper into this question, you have to think about the scoring implications long term - over the course of a tournament or season or a few seasons. we’re all just thinking about how being closer or further out plays on one hole long term i think always being closer to the pin is gonna go a long way to lowering handicap and going lower on rounds GolfSpy_SHARK, DaveP043 and cnosil 3 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment
ZMendle10 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I would go with never 3 putt. No matter how good of a round I'm having off the tee and how good I'm playing if I three putt even once it just immediately takes the wind out of my sails for a hole or two. Quote Driver: TSR3 8°, set to A1, Graphite Design UB 7X 3 Wood: SIM 3 Wood 15°, Aldila Rouge Silver 7X 3 Hybrid: CLK 18°, Ventus Blue 8S 2 Utility: ZX Utility, LA Golf Tour AXS Blue, (15th club) 4i-AW: ZX7, Tour Issue Dynamic Gold 120's S400 56°: TAIII, Dynamic Gold S400 60° TAIII, Dynamic Gold S400 Putter: Mezz1 Max Ball: Tour BX Forum Reviews: Official Member Review Sub 70 TAIII Wedges Official Member Review Zelos 7 Shaft Review Unofficial Vokey SM8 and Wedge & Wedge Works Review Unofficial Srixon 2021 ZX7 Iron Review Unofficial TSR3 Review Link to comment
DaveP043 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 On 9/13/2020 at 12:20 PM, Chip Strokes said: crazy how everyone plays such a different game. i can put a 40-50 yard chip where i want it most of the time, and tend to miss more from 100-120 with a full wedge shot going deeper into this question, you have to think about the scoring implications long term - over the course of a tournament or season or a few seasons. we’re all just thinking about how being closer or further out plays on one hole long term i think always being closer to the pin is gonna go a long way to lowering handicap and going lower on rounds Actually, those of us who are viewing this through a "strokes gained" lens ARE looking at it in the long term. Statistically, being closer to the hole lowers the expected score by some small percentage of a stroke, maybe 0.1 or 0.2 strokes, possible even less. Its only when you play a number of holes, or a number of rounds, that those tenths start to add up to real strokes. Shapotomous, Larryd3, GaDawg and 1 other 4 Quote Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment
ejgaudette Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 As someone who does not hit the ball very far I am in on the 300 yard drives, like many have said with similar accuracy to right now. Being closer to the whole would be a huge plus and agree that extra practice on the greens would help really limit those 3 putts, plus closer proximity being so closer to the green. Plus lets be completely honest that would be way more fun to blast some 300 yard drives, and what golf if its not fun. GolfSpy_SHARK 1 Quote Epic Max LS 9° Ventus Blue 6X (2021 Official Review) | Epic Speed 18° Evenflow Riptide 70g 6.0 816 H1 21° Diamana S+ Blue 70 S | SMS 4-5/SMS Pro 6-PW Steelfiber i95 S (2023 Official Review) Glide 4.0 50°.12°S/54°.14°W/58°.6°T PING Z-Z115 Wedge Flex | SOFT 11S Super Stroke Mid-Slim 2.0 Hoofer Bag | Pro V1 | Right Handed | Tracked by V3 Link to comment
Jackal Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) I would have to go no 3 putts. Some of the courses we play have par 4s, that are 260-280 ( with water, sand traps, etc). Then there's the par 3s. Only hitting drive maybe 6???? times during a round, 300 yards wouldn't help. As it is, I could drop 3-4 strokes per 18. Edited October 4, 2020 by Jackal GolfSpy_SHARK 1 Quote Always chasing different clubs Link to comment
Stuka44 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I would have to go 300 yard drives. I don't 3 putt that often, probably high 1 point something to 2 times per round. I drive the ball pretty straight and think it would mean more to me to be within 40-70 yards of the green on low and mid 300 yard par 4's, as opposed to having 100-150 yards in. My chipping is pretty good, so I think I could improve my proximity with 300 yard drives, and ultimately maybe score better in the long run. 3 putts when they come are annoying, but sometimes they come on big greens when you got 50-60 feet for a first putt, I don't mind those so much..... just think the added 70-80 yards off the tee will do me more good. GREAT TOPIC FOR THOUGHT!!! GolfSpy_SHARK 1 Quote Driver: Cobra King Speedzone Irons: Mavrik 4-GW Wedges: CG-14 56 & RTX 52 Putter: Scottsdale Wolverine Woods: Gigagolf 3W, 2H, 3H Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Link to comment
Larryd3 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I'm going with the 300 yard drives. I've played in a shamble format several times with long hitter(s) and my game is so different playing from closer in on the holes. Definitely scored better. 40,50 60 yards longer than me makes a huge difference. Jackal and GolfSpy_SHARK 2 Quote TM Sim2 Max 10.5 Ping G410 5 wood Ping G410 7 & 9 woods PXG Gen 5 0311P 5-gap PXG forged 54 & 58 wedges PXG Operator H w/ BGT Stability shaft Link to comment
bamafxst Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 give me the 300 yard drives! Quote Link to comment
pulledabill Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I dont 3 putt a ton so I will take 300 yards off the tee which can get me home in two on some par 5s and leave shorter clubs in. GolfSpy_SHARK 1 Quote DRIVER: Cobra F9 10.5 Tensei AV Blue 65g 3W- Callway XR PRO 16 stiff 5W- Alpha- Mitsubishi Diamana Redboard w/band Irons- Mizuno JPX 919 Tours with S KBS Tour shafts Hyrbid- TM 4h mid-rescue Vokey- Vokey SM5 51 degrees, SM7 Wedges 54 and 58 1/2 half 3 degrees upright Putter- Taylor Made Rossa Monza Mini Spider Ball-ProV1 and AVX Link to comment
bighairydel Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Never 3 putt all day long. Most courses in Scotland (where I’m from) don’t really need 300 yard drives. 3 putts always leave a sour taste in the mouth GaDawg 1 Quote Link to comment
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