Carl Bunch 4 Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 7 hours ago, cnosil said: I think you need to look at the location that the article was placed on the MGS page. As new clubs come out the articles about them are in the "New Release" section of the stie. These articles contain mostly marketing type information provided from the manufacturer and there are generally no tests to verify claims. Later as testing is done, they articles are published under "reviews", "most wanted", and "labs". Obviously you aren't happy with the product that MGS is providing. My suggestion would be to contact Adam and tell him that this testing is very important to you and that you are willing to fund the MOI/CoG testing so that you can get the results you are seeking. Yeah, see, I'm not the one who decided MGS should have the tag of "Truth Digest". They decided to base their brand on that tag, I didn't force them to do it. They decided to host a forum where readers could voice their opinions, I didn't force them to do it. And they've done a very very good job as far as drivers are concerned, because the MGS COG reports are the only place where the name brand drivers are actually measured to see if their marketing claims are true. Every years report emphasizes how important COG is to the way a driver performs. And the 5 years of data (2015-2019) paint a very illustrating engineering picture as to what is possible and what is not possible in driver creation. So if MGS can't do a 2020 COG report because of the pandemic, that's totally understandable. It would be nice to get some statement that it will return in 2021, or maybe they're just dropping it altogether, but whatever. And if the New Release section is just a regurgitation of the manufacturer's marketing claims, ok fine. I'm just pointing out that PXG is claiming their new BUDGET driver will have a MOI/COG location that is in impossible territory. Every manufacturer has tried for years to get a low/back COG on the neutral axis, and nobody has even come CLOSE to what PXG is claiming to have achieved in their BUDGET driver. Tony called it "intriguing", maybe that's his polite way of calling BS. I guess we'll have to wait for the COG report to learn the truth from the "Truth Digest". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cnosil 16,881 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 47 minutes ago, Carl Bunch said: Yeah, see, I'm not the one who decided MGS should have the tag of "Truth Digest". They decided to base their brand on that tag, I didn't force them to do it. They decided to host a forum where readers could voice their opinions, I didn't force them to do it. I guess we'll have to wait for the COG report to learn the truth from the "Truth Digest". Yes, they decide on what they want to do and they decided not to do the CoG report last year and they may decide not to do it again. When they execute tests, they state the claim and then test the claim. You can also voice your opinion; which you have. We get your point and you have repeated it several times in muptiple areas on the MGS site. If you want something to change, the forum probably isn't the place to get that done. My point was that if you really want the CoG information you can choose to do it yourself or you can contact Adam and tell him that this report is really important to you and that you want to fund the work. 8 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* set to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 588 54-14, 58-12 Putter: TM-180 Backups: 6330, ER2.2, Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to post Share on other sites
Carl Bunch 4 Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 OR, MGS could charge for access to the data. I would gladly pay extra for a MGS "premium membership" for access to the data. But telling me I should fund the whole report is complete stupid bs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cnosil 16,881 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 minutes ago, Carl Bunch said: OR, MGS could charge for access to the data. I would gladly pay extra for a MGS "premium membership" for access to the data. But telling me I should fund the whole report is complete stupid bs. Yep they could go that route as well. It really isn't complete stupid BS. For example in the software industry, companies often pay a software development company to add features to their software or move planned features to the left on their roadmap. Basically, other things that are higher on their priority list. Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* set to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 588 54-14, 58-12 Putter: TM-180 Backups: 6330, ER2.2, Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to post Share on other sites
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