Ball Lab: Quick Reference

[TR1PTIK]

There are a lot of questions surrounding ball lab, but two of the most common I've seen (in some form at least) have been "What balls are in the test?" and "How can I compare the balls within the test?".

Tony has stated that a comparison tool is coming, but I thought I'd try and put together a quick reference while we wait.

I went through Tony's Twitter to look at Ball Lab related posts and compiled a list of balls that are definitely in this test. 

A few more quick notes about this list that I'd like to address:

I am not starting this thread to direct conversation away from the specific Ball Lab threads posted by our forum moderators. When a new Ball Lab is released and the subsequent thread created, please discuss the specifics of the report in that thread.

I've done my best to collect information directly from OEM websites or MGS to gather ball construction and MSRP information. In some cases I had to rely on a retailer's website because the information was not listed on the OEM site or I did not immediately see a MGS post about the ball. If something is incorrect, let me know and I'll edit this post to fix it.

I have separated the balls by category: 2-PC Non-Urethane, 3-PC Non-Urethane, and 3/4/5-PC Urethane. Other information includes MSRP (per dozen), True Price, % Over Retail, Compression numbers, and Consistency data. I will also link each ball to their respective Ball Lab report as they are released.

Without further delay...

2-Piece Non-Urethane Ball Models
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Bridgestone	e6	$21.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Callaway	Supersoft	$22.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Noodle	Long and Soft	$12.00	$13.56	13%
69	Poor	Fair	Average	Ball Lab #17
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Pinnacle	Practice	$8.00	$9.00	13%
97	Average	Average	Average	Ball Lab #15
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Srixon	Soft Feel	$21.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Titleist	Tour Soft	$34.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Titleist	TruFeel	$22.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Titleist	Velocity	$27.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Wilson	Duo Soft+	$19.99	$23.99	20%
46	Average (L)	Fair	Fair	Ball Lab #9
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
3-Piece Non-Urethane Ball Models
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Bridgestone	e12 Soft	$24.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Callaway	E.R.C. Soft	$34.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Taylormade	Soft Response	$24.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Top Flite	Gamer	$22.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
3/4/5-Piece Urethane Ball Models
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Bridgestone	Tour B RX	$44.99	$49.08	9%
75	Fair	Average	Average	Ball Lab #11
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Bridgestone	Tour B RXS	$44.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Bridgestone	Tour B X	$44.99	$50.61	12%
98	Fair	Good	Average (H)	Ball Lab #16
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Bridgestone	Tour B XS	$44.99	$50.61	12%
86	Average	Average	Average
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Callaway	Chromesoft	$47.99	$59.79	25%
75	Average	Average	Average (H)
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Callaway	Chromesoft X	$47.99	$53.99	13%
95	Average	Average	Average	Ball Lab #13
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Cut Golf	DC	$29.95
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Kirkland Signature	Performance+	$12.49	$16.65	33%
90	Average (H)	Fair	Fair	Ball Lab #3
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Maxfli	Tour	$34.99	$37.05	6%
92	Average	Good	Good	Ball Lab #4
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Maxfli	Tour X	$34.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Mizuno	RB Tour	$34.99	$46.64	33%
91	Average	Average (L)	Average	Ball Lab #12
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Mizuno	RB Tour X	$42.95
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Oncore	Elixr	$35.00	$42.00	20%
78	Average (H)	Good	Average (L)	Ball Lab #8
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Oncore	Vero X1	$39.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
RZN	MS-Tour	$29.95
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
RZN	HS-Tour	$34.95
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Snell	MTB-X	$32.99	$33.93	3%
96	Average	Average	Average	Ball Lab #2
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Srixon	Q-Star Tour	$32.99	$79.18	140%
72	Average*	Average*	Good	Ball Lab #5
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Srixon	Z-Star	$39.99	$42.43	6%
88	Average	Average	Average	Ball Lab #7
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Srixon	Z-Star XV	$39.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Taylormade	Tour Response	$34.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Taylormade	TP5 ('19)	$44.99	$50.61	12%
90	Average (H)	Average	Average (L)	Ball Lab #1
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Taylormade	TP5 X ('19)	$44.99	$50.61	12%
98	Good	Fair	Average	Ball Lab #10
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Titleist	- Pro V1x	$47.99	$47.99	0%
102	Good	Good	Good	Ball Lab #6
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Titleist	AVX	$47.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Titleist	Pro V1 ('19)	$47.99	$49.36	3%
90	Good (H)	Average (H)	Average
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Titleist	Pro V1x ('21)	$47.99	$47.99	0%
97	Good	Good	Good	Ball Lab #18
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Titleist	Tour Speed	$39.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Vice	Pro ('16)	$34.99	$50.39	44%
87	Fair	Average (H)	Fair	Ball Lab #14
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Vice	Pro ('20)	$34.99	$39.36	12%
86	Average (H)	Average (H)	Fair	Ball Lab #14
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Vice	Pro Plus	$34.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Vice	Pro Soft	$34.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Wilson	Staff	$49.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^
Brand	Model	MSRP	True Price	% Over Retail
Wilson	Staff Model R	$44.99
Compression	Weight	Diameter	Compression	Report
	^^^----------- Consistency -----------^^^

EDIT (10/21): Updated with latest report. NOTE: The asterisks denote additional concerns in regard to the metric. For Compression Consistency, the RANGE across individual points measured was larger than normal. For Diameter Consistency, there were a number of balls that did not meet the standard for ROUNDNESS. Please refer to the report for more details.
EDIT (10/14): Updated with latest report.
EDIT (10/07): Updated with latest report and three new golf balls - Vice Pro, Vice Pro Soft, & Titleist TruFeel.
EDIT (9/16): Updated with latest report and estimated scheduling (per Tony's Twitter account).
EDIT (9/17): Updated with new golf balls - Top Flite Gamer, Titleist Tour Speed, Maxfli Tour X, & Oncore Vero X1.
EDIT (9/23): Updated with latest report.
EDIT (9/30): Updated with latest report.
EDIT (9/24): Updated formatting including additional data for compression, consistency, and value. NOTE: For the Value column, HIGHER = BETTER.     

EDIT (11/05): Updated with latest report.

EDIT (11/13): Updated with Srixon Z-Star - a comeback story!

EDIT (11/18): Updated with Oncore Elixr report and added Wilson Staff Model R to the matrix.

EDIT (11/29): Updated with Wilson Duo+

EDIT (12/02): Updated with Taylormade TP5x

EDIT (12/10): Updated with Bridgestone Tour B RX

EDIT (12/21): Updated with Mizuno RB Tour

EDIT (01/07): Updated with Callaway Chrome Soft X

EDIT (01/27): Updated with 2016 & 2020 Vice Pro

EDIT (02/04): Updated with Pinnacle Practice (Range)

EDIT (02/21): Updated with Bridgestone Tour B X and updated formatting. NOTE: I have replaced the value metric with % Over Retail to mirror what Tony puts in the reports. If you preferred the Value Metric for some reason, let me know and I'll put it back in as an addition.

EDIT (04/12): Updated with Noodle Long and Soft

EDIT (04/16): Updated with Pro V1x

[KurtActual]

Another slam dunk post by @TR1PTIK

 

[KurtActual]

Ok @TR1PTIK time to add the Bridgestone. Kinda surprised by the Ball Lab on this one...

[TR1PTIK]

30 minutes ago, KurtActual said:

Ok @TR1PTIK time to add the Bridgestone. Kinda surprised by the Ball Lab on this one...

Done!

[fixyurdivot]

This is helpful, thanks for putting it together and updating!  Am I the only one who is really curious to see how these compare?

Spoiler

Kirkland 3 Piece 

 

[THEZIPR23]

Well done, Very helpful!

[TR1PTIK]

4 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

This is helpful, thanks for putting it together and updating!  Am I the only one who is really curious to see how these compare?

 

 Nope! Not at all! 

[KurtActual]

41 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

This is helpful, thanks for putting it together and updating!  Am I the only one who is really curious to see how these compare?

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Kirkland 3 Piece 

 

Nope, I am too. I still have a bunch in my garage. Also looking forward to the Vice Pro, once they get logistics figured out.

I have been playing Srixon Z-stars lately, so it's gonna feel like a really long wait for that one to come out. 

[TR1PTIK]

We have some new balls to add, but I need confirmation about one...

Obviously, the Top Flite Gamer and Maxfli Tour X are new to the list. It also appears the new Titleist Tour Speed golf ball has been added based on the box design. As for the Oncore golf balls in the bottom right, I'm really not sure. I'm looking online to try and identify them right now and it appears they are most likely the new Vero X1. What do you guys think?

EDIT: For a quick refresher - The Maxfli Tour X is a 4-PC Cast Urethane ball, Titleist Tour Speed is a 3-PC Thermoplastic Injected Urethane ball, Top Flite Gamer is a 3-PC Ionomer ball, and the Oncore Vero X1 is the company's new 4-PC Cast Urethane golf ball.

[TR1PTIK]

The TP5 report has been released and info added to the quick reference. Another great write-up for Tony!

[KurtActual]

I'll be interested which price per dozen they use for the Z-star. I just grabbed a dozen at WalMart for $24.97.

[cnosil]

I'll be interested which price per dozen they use for the Z-star. I just grabbed a dozen at WalMart for $24.97.

Probably the $39.99 MSRP.


https://www.srixon.com/us/balls/golf-balls/z-star-golf-balls/MZSTAR18.html?dwvar_MZSTAR18_color=pure-white

[TR1PTIK]

3 hours ago, cnosil said:

Probably the $39.99 MSRP.


https://www.srixon.com/us/balls/golf-balls/z-star-golf-balls/MZSTAR18.html?dwvar_MZSTAR18_color=pure-white

Agreed. Most shops will be selling at $39.99. Also, Walmart and many other big box stores (not specializing in sporting equipment) tend to buy up remaining stock of whatever previous year model is available and sell at a discount. @KurtActual, you may have gotten lucky, but it could just be that you purchased the previous model at a discounted price. I'm not familiar enough with Srixon to know the difference in packaging and labeling from one year to the next, but I have definitely seen them do this with Bridgestone and Titleist golf balls.

EDIT: Was curious what the differences might be so I looked online and saw these at Walmart.com and Srixon.com. I'd be interested to know which packaging you have.

[AmishJason]

I'll throw in my 2 cents on Srixon.  I'm fairly sure the dozens for $25 are Gen 5 and not Gen 6 Z Stars and I'm also willing to bet that us average folks, can't tell a difference between the two on the course.  The Walmart here has the same price on the Z Stars that are on the shelf.

[TR1PTIK]

1 hour ago, AmishJason said:

I'll throw in my 2 cents on Srixon.  I'm fairly sure the dozens for $25 are Gen 5 and not Gen 6 Z Stars and I'm also willing to bet that us average folks, can't tell a difference between the two on the course.  The Walmart here has the same price on the Z Stars that are on the shelf.

I wouldn't expect much of a difference either. Getting last year's model at a discount is certainly still a good deal regardless, but in relation to Ball Lab we're only looking at current gen products - in some cases this might mean a 2019 ball (Titleist and Taylormade are good examples) due to the way product release cycles work. 

I will make a note that because these big box stores have a habit of buying and selling old stock, it is definitely worth getting familiar with product packaging from one generation to the next. Target provides a good example. This box of Pro V1x golf balls is the 2015 model and they're selling it at 2019/2020 prices. Granted, Titleist could be forcing their hand on this, but it's still important to note because why on earth would you want to pay the same price for a product that's two generations old?

 

Even the Vice Golf balls currently for sale at Target are now at least one generation old (for the tour models anyway). Does it mean you shouldn't buy them? No, I guess not. Not if you're in a real pinch or if for some particular reason you really liked the performance of that specific generation of golf ball. You should always know what exactly you're buying though so you can get it at a fair price.

I digress... We've gotten a little off topic from the original question of what MSRP would be used for the Srixon Z-Star, but it seemed like a good opportunity to share some knowledge as well.

@KurtActual, I hope none of my comments come off as condescending or elitist about buying previous gen products. That is certainly not my intentions. When you posted about the deal you got, it simply piqued my curiosity because golf OEMs tend to have a lot of control over their pricing and I wanted to see if you stumbled across something truly remarkable at that price point.

[KurtActual]

AH @TR1PTIK, once again dropping knowledge bombs. I will quickly admit I am packaging ignorant. I just checked, and the Z-stars I grabbed at WalMart are the previous year's packaging.

I did notice the Vice generation issue at Target though. I wanted to try a Vice ball, and picked up the $19.99 box of Vice Drive balls (really cheap 2 piece) I sat in the aisle on Google trying to read up on them, and on Vice's own website they compare the 2019 ball to the 2020 ball.

That's when I looked, and saw the Pro Plus they also stock at my Target was the older generation. I think there is a good chance that people shopping in-store at Target for golf balls dont fit the Vice Pro Plus swing speed category, but that's for another discussion.

Thanks all for enlightening me!

[TR1PTIK]

2 minutes ago, KurtActual said:

That's when I looked, and saw the Pro Plus they also stock at my Target was the older generation. I think there is a good chance that people shopping in-store at Target for golf balls dont fit the Vice Pro Plus swing speed category, but that's for another discussion.

Funny story about that. I recently purchased a box from Target because I was playing a new course with lots of water and was tipped off that I may lose a few balls. Well, rather than lose any of my preferred Bridgestones, I decided I'd grab something a little cheaper, while still offering plenty of performance. And wouldn't you know it? Target is the closest thing to me... Haha I knew I was getting a bit of a raw deal, but I also saw the 1 or 2 generation old Pro V1s and Pro V1Xs they had sitting on the top shelf and figured, "at least I'm not that guy." LOL

I could have bought golf balls at the course, but without knowing what they carry and whether or not they were even letting anyone in the pro shop due to COVID - I opted for the easiest thing. All said and done, I only wound up losing two golf balls and have quite a few Vice balls to run through before going back to my Tour B XS.

[TR1PTIK]

Finally updated the formatting. It's not perfect, but it's much improved. I've also seen several comments on the reports about people wanting to see compression data etc. in one place. I didn't give it much thought at first, but when shopping for a new ball it makes perfect sense so that has been included. Finally, Tony made a comment on the most recent report that a really easy way to compare the value proposition is simply calculate a percentage based on MSRP and True Price. I've included that as well.

[KurtActual]

When we get a bunch more True Prices, it'll be fun to plot them against each other on an X.Y graph.

[LostInMyWoods]

Thanks for the summary!

[CWilson216]

There aren't that many balls that fall into the category I'd like to see, however it does matter to me.......where the ball is made. I like to buy Made in USA when I can. May not be a huge factor to most as I am pretty sure all ProVs are made in oversea plants, but I think the Bridgestones are still made here last time I checked (e12/Tour)

[JohnSmalls]

1 hour ago, CWilson216 said:

I am pretty sure all ProVs are made in oversea plants

Not quite.  Titleist ball plants #2, #3, and C (New Bedford, Massachusetts) make most of the Titleist golf balls for the U.S. market.  Titleist ball plant #4 (Thailand) supplies global distribution and some big box stores in the U.S.

[GregGarner]

4 hours ago, CWilson216 said:

There aren't that many balls that fall into the category I'd like to see, however it does matter to me.......where the ball is made.

I have a hunch @TR1PTIK
can run this down

[CWilson216]

5 hours ago, JohnSmalls said:

Not quite.  Titleist ball plants #2, #3, and C (New Bedford, Massachusetts) make most of the Titleist golf balls for the U.S. market.  Titleist ball plant #4 (Thailand) supplies global distribution and some big box stores in the U.S.

Well, the last few boxes of ProV's I looked at came from #4. These were in Dicks though, so maybe that is the difference?

[TR1PTIK]

11 hours ago, CWilson216 said:

Well, the last few boxes of ProV's I looked at came from #4. These were in Dicks though, so maybe that is the difference?

Possibly. It makes sense that Dick's would have partners overseas where they can produce and distribute products at a lower price so why not get golf balls from those same distributors? I couldn't honestly tell you for sure, that's just a hunch. What at @JohnSmalls posted above is absolutely correct though. 

Other companies that produce balls in the US: Bridgestone, and Callaway. As noted in the most recent Ball Lab, Taylormade has a ball plant in the US, but they only put the covers on there. The cores are produced overseas by two sources and sent to Taylormade. 

I'm curious, what category of golf ball are you looking for? Just those made in the US, or are you looking more specifically for a lower tier ball made in the US?

[fixyurdivot]

17 hours ago, JohnSmalls said:

Not quite.  Titleist ball plants #2, #3, and C (New Bedford, Massachusetts) make most of the Titleist golf balls for the U.S. market.  Titleist ball plant #4 (Thailand) supplies global distribution and some big box stores in the U.S.

Tony's test matrix just exploded .  By the time he gets all the permutations accounted for, the OEM's will have changed their process and/or mfg. locations and he'll have to start over 

[JohnSmalls]

12 hours ago, CWilson216 said:

Well, the last few boxes of ProV's I looked at came from #4. These were in Dicks though, so maybe that is the difference?

I think that's a safe bet. 

[TR1PTIK]

Updated with the Snell MTB-X! Can't wait for the discussion thread on this one!!!

[cdstall]

Just ordered a test pack of the Snell's (Combo MTB-X & Black) in optic yellow. I'm looking forward to putting them to the test to see how they play. I had been waiting on the Ball Lab report and was pleased to see only 1 bad ball in the lot. At their prices, and the "true price", they really seem like a great value. Of course, MGS hasn't tested the MTB Black yet, but I imagine from a quality standpoint it would stack up very similarly to the MTB-X. 

[Middler]

13 minutes ago, cdstall said:

Just ordered a test pack of the Snell's (Combo MTB-X & Black) in optic yellow. I'm looking forward to putting them to the test to see how they play. I had been waiting on the Ball Lab report and was pleased to see only 1 bad ball in the lot. At their prices, and the "true price", they really seem like a great value. Of course, MGS hasn't tested the MTB Black yet, but I imagine from a quality standpoint it would stack up very similarly to the MTB-X. 

I’ve been playing MTB Blacks, more recently MTB-Xs almost exclusively for years, so I’m a fan. 

As for your assumption above, different metrics in 2019 but FWIW... https://mygolfspy.com/most-wanted-golf-ball/