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I recently purchased a TM SIM 10.5* from a local golf shop and decided to compare it to my 2017 TM M1 10.5* on a simulator. Now, granted this is just one simulator session on a shaft I was properly fitted for in May 2019. While I would imagine there's a shaft that might be a little better than what I'm currently swinging, I don't expect to see eye-popping changes in my numbers. Regardless, I tested 2017 technology vs 2020 technology. 

Simulator: GC Quad

Shaft: Kiyoshi Black 65 05 tipped 1/2" - Playing length 44.5"

Ball: 2020 Bridgestone Tour B X

SIM setting: Std Loft, weight 1/3 out on toe.

M1 setting: Std Loft, weight 1/3 out on toe and 1/2 out to front of the club. 

I took 12 swings with each club and then averaged out the 6 best shots. I alternated club heads after every 4 swings. I warmed up for about 15 minutes and then got after it. 

IMO, the sound and looks/crown of the 2020 SIM is better than the 2017 M1, however I do enjoy being able to adjust the forward/back track on the M1.  

Here are my summarized results for the best 6 shots, including standard deviation:

2017 M1 10.5*

Ball Speed: 166.4mph (SD 2.1mph)

Launch: 12.1* (SD: 1.4*)

Backspin: 2210 rpm (SD: 459 rpm)

Descent Angle: 37.3* (SD: 4.1*)

Peak: 35yds (SD: 4 yds)

Carry: 293mph (SD: 8 yds)

2020 SIM 10.5*

Ball Speed: 164.5 mph (SD: 0.8 mph)

Launch: 13* (SD: 0.7*)

Backspin: 2182 rpm (SD: 140 rpm)

Descent Angle: 39* (SD 2.6*)

Peak: 38 yds (SD: 4 yds)

Carry: 293 yds (SD: 2 yds)

My summary: Yes, the SIM is a little more consistent across the board. BUT...I didn't see one single yard gained between 2017 technology and 2020 technology with every other variable constant. I'd still like to find ways to boost my ball speed with the SIM because I like the consistency. The M1 would carry anywhere from 285 to 301 while the SIM would carry anywhere from 291 to 295. I see other videos (like TXG) where they see 10+ yards difference in just 1 year technology (see TXG M5 vs SIM review video) and yet I get nothing extra. Different results for different folks. 

You would think I'd be crazy to hang on to the SIM since I see no yardage difference, and you're correct...I am in fact, crazy. 

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Thanks for sharing! I'm curious if you feel like your swing speed was consistent with both heads. Maybe just the comfort level with the M1 giving that extra gear on a couple of the swing?

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Thanks for sharing! I'm curious if you feel like your swing speed was consistent with both heads. Maybe just the comfort level with the M1 giving that extra gear on a couple of the swing?


Very well could be and I still haven’t put the SIM in play outdoors. My club head speed with the M1 was 114.7mph and 114.0mph with the SIM. I do have that subconscious familiarity with the M1 so we'll see what happens with the SIM after a few rounds.


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There’s a good video that TXG did on YouTube earlier this year comparing SIM to 2017 M1 and 2016 M2.


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NOW you tell me this?!? Hahaha if only I had seen this prior to my purchase. I just saw the one between the M5 and SIM. TXG makes some of the best comparison videos.


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18 hours ago, txgolfjunkie said:

I recently purchased a TM SIM 10.5* from a local golf shop and decided to compare it to my 2017 TM M1 10.5* on a simulator. Now, granted this is just one simulator session on a shaft I was properly fitted for in May 2019. While I would imagine there's a shaft that might be a little better than what I'm currently swinging, I don't expect to see eye-popping changes in my numbers. Regardless, I tested 2017 technology vs 2020 technology. 

Simulator: GC Quad

Shaft: Kiyoshi Black 65 05 tipped 1/2" - Playing length 44.5"

Ball: 2020 Bridgestone Tour B X

SIM setting: Std Loft, weight 1/3 out on toe.

M1 setting: Std Loft, weight 1/3 out on toe and 1/2 out to front of the club. 

I took 12 swings with each club and then averaged out the 6 best shots. I alternated club heads after every 4 swings. I warmed up for about 15 minutes and then got after it. 

IMO, the sound and looks/crown of the 2020 SIM is better than the 2017 M1, however I do enjoy being able to adjust the forward/back track on the M1.  

Here are my summarized results for the best 6 shots, including standard deviation:

2017 M1 10.5*

Ball Speed: 166.4mph (SD 2.1mph)

Launch: 12.1* (SD: 1.4*)

Backspin: 2210 rpm (SD: 459 rpm)

Descent Angle: 37.3* (SD: 4.1*)

Peak: 35yds (SD: 4 yds)

Carry: 293mph (SD: 8 yds)

2020 SIM 10.5*

Ball Speed: 164.5 mph (SD: 0.8 mph)

Launch: 13* (SD: 0.7*)

Backspin: 2182 rpm (SD: 140 rpm)

Descent Angle: 39* (SD 2.6*)

Peak: 38 yds (SD: 4 yds)

Carry: 293 yds (SD: 2 yds)

My summary: Yes, the SIM is a little more consistent across the board. BUT...I didn't see one single yard gained between 2017 technology and 2020 technology with every other variable constant. I'd still like to find ways to boost my ball speed with the SIM because I like the consistency. The M1 would carry anywhere from 285 to 301 while the SIM would carry anywhere from 291 to 295. I see other videos (like TXG) where they see 10+ yards difference in just 1 year technology (see TXG M5 vs SIM review video) and yet I get nothing extra. Different results for different folks. 

You would think I'd be crazy to hang on to the SIM since I see no yardage difference, and you're correct...I am in fact, crazy. 

this is really cool ..could you put the m1 shaft on to the SIM head ? not sure they are compatible 

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this is really cool ..could you put the m1 shaft on to the SIM head ? not sure they are compatible 


That's the beauty of TM adapters, they've been the same for years. Anything from the SIM to the R15 and SLDR line use the same adapter.


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On 9/14/2020 at 12:14 PM, txgolfjunkie said:

 


That's the beauty of TM adapters, they've been the same for years. Anything from the SIM to the R15 and SLDR line use the same adapter.


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Even back to the R1 and RBZ Stage 2.

No matter what one might think of TM overall, when it comes to their adapter compatibility, they've done pretty well.

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On 9/14/2020 at 12:14 PM, txgolfjunkie said:

 


That's the beauty of TM adapters, they've been the same for years. Anything from the SIM to the R15 and SLDR line use the same adapter.


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Exactly. I played my SLDR until the shifting weight finally bit the dust and then just got a SIM Head to go with my old Fubuki Shaft.

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