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Has anybody perceived a noticeable difference when putting with different golf balls on the green?

I am curious because I have not seen anything online about putting comparisons based on the ball specifically. 

I understand the basic differences in covers of cheap balls being clicky and urethane being softer but, is there more than that?

It seems robot testing of 10 foot and 30 foot putts to see if there is any discernable difference in dimple design and green turf interaction that would further suggest using one ball is either extremely important or negligible.

It would also seem testing on different surfaces would complete the endeavor adequately. One test on artificial turf doesn't seem to do it justice. 

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I agree with you on inserts, face thickness, and milling patterns will influence ball speed off the face and that a ball will react and feel different when switching putters.  I interpreted the origin

Just pick one ball and stay with it so you get used to how it reacts.  It should be the one you get the best results with when chipping, pitching, approaches and distance off the tee.   I cringe

asking for variables in golf balls coming off your putter is kind of a moot point when you’re playing balls you find on the course.  even proV1 vs proV1 you have no idea how old the ball you foun

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I doubt there is any significant difference other than sound when putting with different balls. When I was testing the ExPutt, I tried different balls and they all came off the face at basically the same ball speed for a given stroke.

Speed variations will definitely happen with different putters. Different putters will impact balls speed; Evnroll for example has a slower ball speed off the face.

When researching at green reading and putting strategies no one mentions the ball as having any influence.

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The only conceivable thing I can think of is if the super cheap ball doesn’t have good quality control, you could wind up with a not perfectly round ball or one where the size/weight is different and that could have an impact on putt performance (probably a very rare situation).

Outside of that, since putting has such a low impact force, the ball variables like compression and cover friction really wouldn’t come into play, just the subjective “sound and feel”. Of course those subjective things being super important to a lot of players.

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I have a practice green in my basement, and a few years ago used to practice putting with a mix of balls... I noticed the Wilson Duo seemed to come off hot... it’s a real bouncy low compression ball.

Since I noticed that I try to only use similar spec balls, like prov1, snell black, tp5... higher compression soft cover — and not low compression balls. But the Duo was the only one that seemed to roll out more than others, but it was really really low compression—like 35, iirc? Might’ve just been that year’s model; I think Wilson changed the specs later.


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Just pick one ball and stay with it so you get used to how it reacts.  It should be the one you get the best results with when chipping, pitching, approaches and distance off the tee.  

I cringe when I see people putting on the practice green with a bucket of range balls.  🤣

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I got given some Srixon Distance balls and could not figure why I was missing so many puts long. Then I tried the same put with a Pro V1 and found that the Srixon was really jumping off the putter. I have found that with most of the so called distance balls and also agree that the Wilson Duo does the same.

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16 hours ago, Cory O said:

The only conceivable thing I can think of is if the super cheap ball doesn’t have good quality control, you could wind up with a not perfectly round ball or one where the size/weight is different and that could have an impact on putt performance (probably a very rare situation).

Outside of that, since putting has such a low impact force, the ball variables like compression and cover friction really wouldn’t come into play, just the subjective “sound and feel”. Of course those subjective things being super important to a lot of players.

I did have a similar concern about ball quality with cheaper balls - good thought. It's one main reason I play better balls. I am less concerned about the $30-35 price range as the sub $30 balls. 

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15 hours ago, Kenny B said:

Just pick one ball and stay with it so you get used to how it reacts.  It should be the one you get the best results with when chipping, pitching, approaches and distance off the tee.  

I cringe when I see people putting on the practice green with a bucket of range balls.  🤣

I can't afford to pick one ball. I don't pay for golf balls - I play what I find. I'm lucky that I find dozens of tour balls but, they are a variety of models and years. 

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7 hours ago, Firebird said:

I got given some Srixon Distance balls and could not figure why I was missing so many puts long. Then I tried the same put with a Pro V1 and found that the Srixon was really jumping off the putter. I have found that with most of the so called distance balls and also agree that the Wilson Duo does the same.

Yup, similar results with Top Flight and other cheap balls in the sub $20 price range as clicky and inconsistent from brand to brand. 

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It came to me, maybe the putter maker or ball maker have some info on this?

I emailed Evnroll, Titleist, and Ping. I will email Snell, Taylormade, and Bridgestone if I don't get any info out of the first 3. 

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4 hours ago, Buffly said:

I can't afford to pick one ball. I don't pay for golf balls - I play what I find. I'm lucky that I find dozens of tour balls but, they are a variety of models and years. 

https://www.costco.com/kirkland-signature-3-piece-urethane-cover-golf-ball%2C-2-dozen.product.100406428.html

and just like that, all inconsistency vanished...

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7 hours ago, Chip Strokes said:

I find enough of those to not have to pay for them. I lose a lot of distance with my driver. I think I spin it too much or it is too soft. 

I find enough ProVs to play just those since it is still the most popular urethane ball and people still lose them

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Just now, Buffly said:

I find enough of those to not have to pay for them. I lose a lot of distance with my driver. I think I spin it too much or it is too soft. 

I find enough ProVs to play just those since it is still the most popular urethane ball and people still lose them

asking for variables in golf balls coming off your putter is kind of a moot point when you’re playing balls you find on the course. 

even proV1 vs proV1 you have no idea how old the ball you found is, how many rounds it has on it, etc. 

if you wanna scavenge for balls instead of paying $1/per kirkland, be my guest but comparisons of any kind go right out the window. 

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1 minute ago, Chip Strokes said:

asking for variables in golf balls coming off your putter is kind of a moot point when you’re playing balls you find on the course. 

even proV1 vs proV1 you have no idea how old the ball you found is, how many rounds it has on it, etc. 

if you wanna scavenge for balls instead of paying $1/per kirkland, be my guest but comparisons of any kind go right out the window. 

I actually find enough balls to pay for the hobby. I sell 3 dozen for $10 of the economy balls, $5/dz for mid level balls, and $10/dz for tour urethane balls. 

I know how to read the usga conforming ball list to know what the current model is and I play the newest models from the last two years. 

The answer to my question of ball performance when putting is valid no matter how I choose my own golf ball. I have a variety to choose from so, with more information I can be more consistent. 

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5 minutes ago, Buffly said:

I actually find enough balls to pay for the hobby. I sell 3 dozen for $10 of the economy balls, $5/dz for mid level balls, and $10/dz for tour urethane balls. 

I know how to read the usga conforming ball list to know what the current model is and I play the newest models from the last two years. 

The answer to my question of ball performance when putting is valid no matter how I choose my own golf ball. I have a variety to choose from so, with more information I can be more consistent. 

yes, everyone knows the key to consistency is scrub balls of all brands and qualities plucked from the rough of your local course. 

it would seem with your business booming as it is, buying a few sleeves of your choice wouldn’t be an issue. 

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I doubt there is any significant difference other than sound when putting with different balls. When I was testing the ExPutt, I tried different balls and they all came off the face at basically the same ball speed for a given stroke.

Speed variations will definitely happen with different putters. Different putters will impact balls speed; Evnroll for example has a slower ball speed off the face.

When researching at green reading and putting strategies no one mentions the ball as having any influence.
Are you sure about that slower speed with the Evnroll? I tested the ER2 last summer and was just blasting everything. Felt like everything came off hot.

I think there's only a difference for the cheapo hot rocks. Those seem to jump off every club putters included. So you'll find a difference going to a top flite from a Pro V, but not so much switching to a Q-Star or Project S. Etc.



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Are you sure about that slower speed with the Evnroll? I tested the ER2 last summer and was just blasting everything. Felt like everything came off hot.

I think there's only a difference for the cheapo hot rocks. Those seem to jump off every club putters included. So you'll find a difference going to a top flite from a Pro V, but not so much switching to a Q-Star or Project S. Etc.



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Yes, I am sure. That is part of what the grooves do. Less contact on the ball in the middle so there is less energy transfer which results in lower ball speeds. Evnroll thins the grooves as you move away from center so ball speed increases. I was never able to find a video from ping that I saw that confirmed what I am saying.

I tried really cheap balls and higher end balls and saw no speed difference with roughly the same stroke length. There could be a bit more or less energy transfer but since the ball
Isn’t coMpressed much I don’t think you would see noticeable difference.
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I will throw my hat into the ring so to speak. This subject like golf can be subjective. A lot depends on the type of putter as in insert or non insert. A lot of it depends on a players feel. In my case I putt with older putters mostly designed in the days of Balata. I am also a feel and instinctive putter. For me the best feel off a non insert putter is the Cally Super Soft or the Srixon Soft Feel. Like others have said the Wilson Do Over seems clicky off of any putter. Pro V I can putt with but have to adjust the same with Vice and Snell. Right now because we have either won or placed in Dog Fights I have an abundance of Soft Feels and Super Softs. Now last week I ended up with a dozen Q Star Tours and have yet to try them. I am going to wait until I am  able to swing well again before trying them.  But in a nutshell different balls react differently with different putters and different folks

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1 hour ago, Chip Strokes said:

yes, everyone knows the key to consistency is scrub balls of all brands and qualities plucked from the rough of your local course. 

it would seem with your business booming as it is, buying a few sleeves of your choice wouldn’t be an issue. 

I have thought about buying balls but it seems so wasteful when I have thousands of free ones other than the cost of batteries for my flashlight. 

If I did buy a ball then it would probably be the AVX, TP5x or ProV1x in that order. But, if I had to pay then I would consider the Snell brand. 

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1 hour ago, Tsmithjr9 said:

Are you sure about that slower speed with the Evnroll? I tested the ER2 last summer and was just blasting everything. Felt like everything came off hot.

I think there's only a difference for the cheapo hot rocks. Those seem to jump off every club putters included. So you'll find a difference going to a top flite from a Pro V, but not so much switching to a Q-Star or Project S. Etc.



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I can also confirm that Evnroll hits the ball a bit slower but, that is to EVEN out the difference on conventional putter miss-hits on the toe and heel. 

This video from Evnroll shows the other brand putter going farther but inconsistent across the face - reference the blue line. 

The weight of the putter also affects the energy transfer so comparing putters of differing head weights will skew results. To even out the difference, as best as I could without a robot, I would putt with the same "effort" I could and the Evnroll was consistently shorter in my hands. That was compared to my Taylormade Anser Style putter with a face insert. 

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