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i wasn’t sure where to put this thread, so feel free to move it if it’s better served elsewhere. just don’t want anyone else to get burned  

back on 9/3 i came across a listing on OfferUp for 4 Vokey SM8 wedges in jet black finish. 

i already have a 56 and 60 on their way, so i asked the seller who goes by Calvin on offer up if he’d sell the 48 and 52. we settled on $230 for the two clubs shipped. 

he asked me to send the money via PayPal friends and family. i realize this is where i messed up. this was a thursday. i texted him friday to ask if he’d shipped them and he said he wouldn’t ship until the money hit his account. 

i texted him again tuesday 9/7 since that monday was Labor day. it took him until thursday 9/9 to respond to me. 

his first story was that work was busy and he would get things in the mail by the weekend. 

i texted him again saturday 9/11 and didn’t hear from him until monday 9/13. the story this time was that he was sick as a dog with a fever and the flu and couldn’t send things out, but that his mom dropped the clubs at USPS priority. when i asked him for tracking info, he didn’t have any. his mom couldn’t send it because she doesn’t know how to take pictures with her phone and he couldn’t get it because he lives far from her. 

i finally got back in touch with him today when, you guessed it, he’s dealing with a family tragedy and won’t be able to get the tracking info to me!!

so now i’m at the point of going through my bank and starting the process of getting my money back via a lengthy bank chargeback.

i should end up with my money.  i’ve got several texts from him claiming the clubs were sent, and unless he can produce tracking info that checks out, the money will he pulled from his account and refunded to me. 

i know i screwed the pooch by sending money as friends and family, but i think it’s still important to shine a light on people like this. 

 

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I direct messaged the Admins when i was scammed, they made a post and deleted the member from the forum.

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5 minutes ago, StrawberryShortCake said:

I direct messaged the Admins when i was scammed, they made a post and deleted the member from the forum.

 

on offerup or paypal?

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small update:

the seller actually answered my texts today. i told him if he could just produce a tracking number that i could verify then id drop everything and wait patiently for my clubs

big surprise: his mom lost the usps receipt! 

i told him i’m going ahead with the claims on both paypal and offer up and i’ll happily stop them if the clubs happen to show up. 

shop safely out there guys! 

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2 hours ago, Chip Strokes said:

 

on offerup or paypal?

Mine was through paypal, but the member posted on this forum.

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54 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

small update:

the seller actually answered my texts today. i told him if he could just produce a tracking number that i could verify then id drop everything and wait patiently for my clubs

big surprise: his mom lost the usps receipt! 

i told him i’m going ahead with the claims on both paypal and offer up and i’ll happily stop them if the clubs happen to show up. 

shop safely out there guys! 

Had similar case once, I threw a hailmary and told him that I spoken with local  my postmaster and would filing 18 U.S. Code § 1341 charges (Fraud and Swindles)

Had my money in 5 days (np pay pal back in the 90's) 

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he keeps holding on to the fact that he hasn’t blocked my number as “proof” that he’s not ripping me off. 

sorry man, i operate on proof, not good faith. gonna have to do better. 

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another update:

some very basic googling got me Calvin’s home phone number. i just got off the phone with his dad, real nice guy 

basically told him at this point if Calvin can’t produce proof that he sent my clubs, i’m gonna need a refund and that it can either come direct from Calvin now, or paypal can take it from his bank in a few weeks. 

dear old dad is gonna have a talk with Calvin 😂😂

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59 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

another update:

some very basic googling got me Calvin’s home phone number. i just got off the phone with his dad, real nice guy 

basically told him at this point if Calvin can’t produce proof that he sent my clubs, i’m gonna need a refund and that it can either come direct from Calvin now, or paypal can take it from his bank in a few weeks. 

dear old dad is gonna have a talk with Calvin 😂😂

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I've bought a few things off Mercari and this has always been a fear of mine when doing so.  I hope it works out for you soon.

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4 minutes ago, IDontGiveAchuck said:

I've bought a few things off Mercari and this has always been a fear of mine when doing so.  I hope it works out for you soon.

thanks.  this is the first time i've bought anything that had to be shipped via OfferUp and it's not likely i'll do it again.

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oh my god i love it when a plan comes together!!!!

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...so his parents have nothing to do with this, but it was his mom who did the shipping, can’t work a camera phone, and lost the receipt?

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6 minutes ago, Cory O said:

...so his parents have nothing to do with this, but it was his mom who did the shipping, can’t work a camera phone, and lost the receipt?

he hasn’t told a straight story from the jump. this feels so good 

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33 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

he hasn’t told a straight story from the jump. this feels so good 

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OMG this awesome!!

Offer up has been pretty good to me BUT I've only done local business. I have to look a fella in the eye when handing over my hard earned cash.

the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get..

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26 minutes ago, azstu324 said:

OMG this awesome!!

Offer up has been pretty good to me BUT I've only done local business. I have to look a fella in the eye when handing over my hard earned cash.

the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get..
 

i was the same way.  always in person. lesson learned now. 

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On 9/21/2020 at 6:15 PM, MadMex said:

Had similar case once, I threw a hailmary and told him that I spoken with local  my postmaster and would filing 18 U.S. Code § 1341 charges (Fraud and Swindles)

Had my money in 5 days (np pay pal back in the 90's) 

also did this but in the late 90s early 2000s ebay for a purchase over $500 .. after a lot of back and forth phone calls .. the person sent a hand writing letter and said  they never got the money but they would give $200 bucks (what?), they send me a handwriting letter claiming their innocents (remember this), I filed with the post office bc I did a USPS certified money which needs to be signed, the post office sends me a copy of the signed money order. I get a call from a federal investigator saying this person did this before so I kept every document including the letter...the idiot signed the letter which match to the signed money order ! .. They were arrested and went to jail for 5 years or something like and I received restitution checks for years until the total was paid back....I still buy from ebay though haha

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@Nolan220 that’s a crazy story! 

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On 9/23/2020 at 9:41 AM, Nolan220 said:

also did this but in the late 90s early 2000s ebay for a purchase over $500 .. after a lot of back and forth phone calls .. the person sent a hand writing letter and said  they never got the money but they would give $200 bucks (what?), they send me a handwriting letter claiming their innocents (remember this), I filed with the post office bc I did a USPS certified money which needs to be signed, the post office sends me a copy of the signed money order. I get a call from a federal investigator saying this person did this before so I kept every document including the letter...the idiot signed the letter which match to the signed money order ! .. They were arrested and went to jail for 5 years or something like and I received restitution checks for years until the total was paid back....I still buy from ebay though haha

I got called by the FBI once over an eBay transaction... talk about a sphincter tightening moment! Turns out some computer parts I had bought were stolen from a university's lab by an employee. The agent thankfully said right at the top that I wasn't in trouble, they just wanted to know if there was anything on the hard drives when they arrived, did I have any other communication with the seller, etc. 

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I'm glad this all worked out for OP, i got scammed on offerup for a Apple TV (only buying local in person myself from now on) , but placed a complaint on Paypal and the seller never responded so Paypal refunded me. it did take 2 weeks. 

I do love to catch people in their BS, those texts are awesome

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@McaseyM im glad it worked out for you as well. i was prepared to wait a month for my money, but i guess his dad made him cough it up with the quickness

he's still texting me, by the way. today it sad to tell me the clubs got “returned to sender” because he wrote my address wrong

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15 hours ago, Chip Strokes said:

@McaseyM im glad it worked out for you as well. i was prepared to wait a month for my money, but i guess his dad made him cough it up with the quickness

he's still texting me, by the way. today it sad to tell me the clubs got “returned to sender” because he wrote my address wrong

this is like the most ultimate BS. Ask for a picture of the box!!

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Hybrid:  :cobra-small: King F7 18° KBS Tour PROTO Hybrid 95 S+

Irons:   :srixon-small: z585 4i - 6i,  z785 7i-PW, Nippon Modus 120X

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX  50.11, 55.11, 60.10  TT DG S400 Black

Putter:  post-53756-150768041262.jpg Honey Badger 34" 

Ball:  :srixon-small: Q-Star Tour

 

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11 minutes ago, McaseyM said:

this is like the most ultimate BS. Ask for a picture of the box!!

i did, out of morbid curiosity. he just avoided the question. 

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