GolfSpy AFG Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Shankster said: I wonder what the best option for the radar is. I mean I think it is a necessity for speed training, without the feedback how do we see our hard work pay off. Mine is acting funny too. That or I’m 15mph slower in a day… Yeah, I trained (like an idiot) doing SuperSpeed for well over half a year before I popped for a radar, and as soon as I didn finally get one I realized how much time I'd wasted. My radar was acting really funny in my garage...I'd have a swing register at 120 (for example), and then 82, when the swing might have been slower but there was no way in hell it was 38 mph slower. Taking it into the gym seems to have alleviated that. The base gym here is a converted aircraft hangar...wide open spaces, and I can't recall where but I've read that these small radar units perform better in that kind of environment. ejgaudette, B_R_A_D_Y and GolfSpy_SHARK 3 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMart519 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 57 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said: One thing I am wondering, and I'm hoping I can get @BMart519or @Chip Strokesto chime in, is I've been doing this Complex/Potentiation Training routine for basically 4-5 months now...Weighted Sleds, rest, then Sprints, Squats, rest, then box jumps, etc. I was thinking for varieties sake I would move away from that routine for basically 10 weeks in the offseason to a more traditional hypertrophy workout, while still doing the explosive sprints, jumps, and med ball work at the beginning of those workouts, and then get back to the complex training come January. Thoughts? Or if I'm seeing speed gains do you see any harm in just keeping with what I'm doing? Not looking forward to this coming week off, but already excited to get after it once I'm back! Sounds like you had a bit of a break with vacations. If the current potentiation programming is yielding gains, I would stick with it until you reach plateaus given your extensive training history. Your strength levels were sufficient in terms of major compound lifts to support high swing speeds. My opinion is that speed work has more low hanging fruit for you then adding another 50 lbs to your big lifts . GolfSpy AFG, edingc and ejgaudette 2 1 Quote G425 MAX Driver & 5W Baffler Rail-H 3H-4H 699 Pro Utility V2 - 4i APEX CF19 6-AW INDI Wedges 52, 56, 60 EAS 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 Increased the weight on the weighted sled to 500, and added one more set of sled and sprints. Last sprint was my fastest so I’m confident one more set is worth it and not too much. The quest continues…. ejgaudette and edingc 2 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMart519 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 11 hours ago, Getoffmylawn said: Increased the weight on the weighted sled to 500, and added one more set of sled and sprints. Last sprint was my fastest so I’m confident one more set is worth it and not too much. The quest continues…. You can add volume if you are within 10% of max speed if you are timing yourself... I would have gone for an addition set if your last one was fastest in this example. GolfSpy AFG and ejgaudette 2 Quote G425 MAX Driver & 5W Baffler Rail-H 3H-4H 699 Pro Utility V2 - 4i APEX CF19 6-AW INDI Wedges 52, 56, 60 EAS 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 Fun fact: in the gym, instead of the garage, you get a nice burnt rubber smell instead of sparks if you catch the turf on a SuperSpeed swing… GolfSpy_SHARK, B_R_A_D_Y, ejgaudette and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMart519 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 On 9/15/2021 at 5:17 AM, Getoffmylawn said: Fun fact: in the gym, instead of the garage, you get a nice burnt rubber smell instead of sparks if you catch the turf on a SuperSpeed swing… Damn you must be getting steep! I don't ever remember ground contact with the Stack or SuperSpeed, but I also do them on my range mat as I would be terrified of breaking the end off the Stack with how expensive it was or sending a bunch of steel washers flying around my garage that I epoxied together for my DIY SuperSpeed. Quote G425 MAX Driver & 5W Baffler Rail-H 3H-4H 699 Pro Utility V2 - 4i APEX CF19 6-AW INDI Wedges 52, 56, 60 EAS 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 27 minutes ago, BMart519 said: Damn you must be getting steep! I don't ever remember ground contact with the Stack or SuperSpeed, but I also do them on my range mat as I would be terrified of breaking the end off the Stack with how expensive it was or sending a bunch of steel washers flying around my garage that I epoxied together for my DIY SuperSpeed. Nah, it was on a kneeling swing actually! Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMart519 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Getoffmylawn said: Nah, it was on a kneeling swing actually! Ahhh, I could never burn rubber on a kneeling swing. And I barely ever did those as I use way too much upper body to a fault as it is. GolfSpy AFG 1 Quote G425 MAX Driver & 5W Baffler Rail-H 3H-4H 699 Pro Utility V2 - 4i APEX CF19 6-AW INDI Wedges 52, 56, 60 EAS 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 It's been a while since I've posted here, but rest assured I'm slogging away and hatching some off-season plans that I'll detail here soon. Regarding that slogging away, here's my progress through SuperSpeed Level 2 so far. Again, pretty slow, but as Bill Miller often says, I'm basically one of those athletes that is very good at moving heavy things, but not good at moving light things fast. The Level 2 work happens every Monday and Friday, minus the occasional out-of-town missed session. Level 2 C Club work happens every Wednesday: Again, almost embarrassingly slow, but as a guy who hasn't trained for explosion and power (but instead hypertrophy) for about 20 years now, I'm cutting myself some slack. I feel like the sprints, jumps and med ball work are starting to pay off, and as long as I see these trendlines continue to creep up I'm happy. Not satisfied by any means, but happy. More about my off-season training plans soon... ejgaudette, edingc and B_R_A_D_Y 3 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejgaudette Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said: It's been a while since I've posted here, but rest assured I'm slogging away and hatching some off-season plans that I'll detail here soon. Regarding that slogging away, here's my progress through SuperSpeed Level 2 so far. Again, pretty slow, but as Bill Miller often says, I'm basically one of those athletes that is very good at moving heavy things, but not good at moving light things fast. The Level 2 work happens every Monday and Friday, minus the occasional out-of-town missed session. Level 2 C Club work happens every Wednesday: Again, almost embarrassingly slow, but as a guy who hasn't trained for explosion and power (but instead hypertrophy) for about 20 years now, I'm cutting myself some slack. I feel like the sprints, jumps and med ball work are starting to pay off, and as long as I see these trendlines continue to creep up I'm happy. Not satisfied by any means, but happy. More about my off-season training plans soon... Thats some great hard work right there and you are faster than you give yourself credit for. Our speeds with the sticks are about the same so I would guess you are getting driver going mid 100s or so which is nothing to baulk at. Keep up that hard work. edingc and GolfSpy AFG 2 Quote Epic Max LS 9° Ventus Blue 6X (2021 Official Review) | Epic Speed 18° Evenflow Riptide 70g 6.0 816 H1 21° Diamana S+ Blue 70 S | SMS 4-5/SMS Pro 6-PW Steelfiber i95 S (2023 Official Review) Glide 4.0 50°.12°S/54°.14°W/58°.6°T PING Z-Z115 Wedge Flex | SOFT 11S Super Stroke Mid-Slim 2.0 Hoofer Bag | Pro V1 | Right Handed | Tracked by V3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Getoffmylawn said: It's been a while since I've posted here, but rest assured I'm slogging away and hatching some off-season plans that I'll detail here soon. Regarding that slogging away, here's my progress through SuperSpeed Level 2 so far. Again, pretty slow, but as Bill Miller often says, I'm basically one of those athletes that is very good at moving heavy things, but not good at moving light things fast. The Level 2 work happens every Monday and Friday, minus the occasional out-of-town missed session. Level 2 C Club work happens every Wednesday: Again, almost embarrassingly slow, but as a guy who hasn't trained for explosion and power (but instead hypertrophy) for about 20 years now, I'm cutting myself some slack. I feel like the sprints, jumps and med ball work are starting to pay off, and as long as I see these trendlines continue to creep up I'm happy. Not satisfied by any means, but happy. More about my off-season training plans soon... Those numbers aren't slow at all, and it looks like you've made a bit of progress on them. I like how your blue and red sticks are in line with your green sticks. When I was doing SuperSpeed with my DIY sticks, I never was able to get the blue and red sticks to consistently stay in line with the green speeds. When I switched to Rypstick I found I was better able to get the mid and heavy weights more in line with the light weight, which translated to better speeds on the course. We're in opposite camps as my goal for this offseason is to increase my weights as much as possible and only maintain the explosive work. ejgaudette and GolfSpy AFG 2 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejgaudette Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 13 hours ago, edingc said: Those numbers aren't slow at all, and it looks like you've made a bit of progress on them. I like how your blue and red sticks are in line with your green sticks. When I was doing SuperSpeed with my DIY sticks, I never was able to get the blue and red sticks to consistently stay in line with the green speeds. When I switched to Rypstick I found I was better able to get the mid and heavy weights more in line with the light weight, which translated to better speeds on the course. I am in the same boat my green and blue are usually in the right zone, but the read always stays what feels too slow. It took until the end of level 2 until that started to get a bit better, I think getting used to the weight of that club. I have dropped off so I am sure that would be down now, but time to get back to it. GolfSpy AFG and edingc 2 Quote Epic Max LS 9° Ventus Blue 6X (2021 Official Review) | Epic Speed 18° Evenflow Riptide 70g 6.0 816 H1 21° Diamana S+ Blue 70 S | SMS 4-5/SMS Pro 6-PW Steelfiber i95 S (2023 Official Review) Glide 4.0 50°.12°S/54°.14°W/58°.6°T PING Z-Z115 Wedge Flex | SOFT 11S Super Stroke Mid-Slim 2.0 Hoofer Bag | Pro V1 | Right Handed | Tracked by V3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiTerp50 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 On 10/15/2021 at 3:00 PM, IONEPUTT said: If you think hitting a 69* wedge is hard, wait until you try a 64*. I have both. I'm rather good with the 60*, but the 64* for some reason takes about twice as much work to get the hang of it. Same make and model, just much harder to use the 64*. On 9/22/2020 at 10:55 AM, Getoffmylawn said: Eyes may have rolled at just the title of this thread, but I can honestly say I decided I was going to do this several months ago…I’m going to run an offseason “experiment” of bulking up in search of clubhead speed, yards, and ultimately lower scores. And yes, I’ll give you one hint at who inspired this…his name sounds like SchmeShambeau… Several factors leading me to this decision. One, I’m an obsessive type that needs something to sink my interests and energies into, and I’m stationed in Nebraska, meaning I have an offseason of several months where I won’t be able to play. Two, I’ve been doing some sort of weight-training program for the last 15 years or so…I’m not a gym newbie that’s going to hurt himself or be completely clueless on how to do this. Three, I have sufficient training aids (namely Planemate and Orange Whip) to keep taking swings over the course of the offseason to make sure I come out of this offseason bulk with a golf swing intact. (I’ll likely also take a couple GolfTEC lessons during this timeframe too.) So, baseline numbers of relevance: Current Weight: 182 Body Fat: 17% (Per a Bod Pod assessment last week) Clubhead Speed: 101-102 average as assessed via last GolfTEC session Current Handicap: 5.9 And now the goal numbers: Goal Weight: 200 Goal Body Fat: Keep it under 20% Clubhead Speed: As fast as humanly possible, duh Goal Handicap: Down to 3 in 2021 So here’s my plan in a nutshell: I’m going to weight train 3 times per week (MWF), with moderately intense cardio on Tuesday & Thursday. Additionally, I'm doing SuperSpeed training MWF before the weight training sessions; I’m currently 3 weeks into the Level 3 protocol. I’ll also be doing Planemate protocols 3-4 times per week, foam rolling and a stretching routine 3-4 times per week, and Orange Whip on a less frequent and sporadic basis. Diet-wise I’ll be putting myself into a 500 calorie surplus daily with the intent of bulking as cleanly as possible…have to maintain appearances with the wife in the name of my social agenda, if you know what I mean. Over the next few days I’ll post more in-depth info on the weight training program and the diet, and then perpetually update the thread with progress, assessments, etc. (Don’t worry, no gratuitous shirtless male before and after pics coming.) I’m open to feedback, outside of “don’t do it”…that train has left the station. There will be some limiting factors as well. Like I’ve said, I’ve been weight-training in some form or another for 15+ years, so the law of diminishing returns will kick in…I’m not going to instantly pack on 15 pounds like a guy who has never been in a weight room would. The bottom line is I’m going to attempt to slowly and cleanly add size, strength and power, with what I think are a lot of measures in place to maintain and enhance mobility and flexibility. And, I’m going to use this forum to keep myself accountable. Feel free to call me out, offer advice, ask questions, comment, etc. More to follow... Sounds like you are on your own. The BD did both build mass and as heavily on technique as well. Titleist has a TPI website open to the public to peruse what their experts recommend for exercise to improve muscles used in a golf swing. There are TPI certified instructors around the country if a trip to Oceanside TPI (physical training only if Titleist clubs aren’t on your timeline). But some professional advice to avoid injury can’t hurt. Quote Titleist TSR 11 degree, HZRDS Red R 44.75 LH Titleist TSR-1 5/7 Woods LH Titleist TSR-1 23 Hybrid LH Titleist T200 7-48 - T350 6 Tensai AMT Red LH Titleist SM9 50-54-58 TT AMT Red LH Scotty Phantom X 7.5 RH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_R_A_D_Y Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) I am looking forward to seeing you progress. A lot of us want to do this. Edited October 23, 2021 by B_R_A_D_Y Changed my mind GolfSpy AFG 1 Quote TSi3 #1-3-5 all with Tensi Blue S-flex 2019 Apex Pro black 3 & 4H Catalyst 70 or TSi3 #2-3 depending on how I’m playing. Tensi Blue 2019 Calloway Apex Pro black, 5-PW, Catalyst 100 - 6.0, Super Stroker Jumbo 2020 RadSpeed OL 4H, 5-GW … won’t get to actually use till warmer weather 2019 PM-grind, 56° & 60°, KBS steel, Green Cap Blue Spider EX Pro V1X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cblade Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 I lift weights frequently due to back issues with a focus on the lower body (front squats, power cleans, lunges) etc. I have also learned that just loading my right side sufficiently increases my clubhead speed by 10 mph according to my golf radar. It was Ben Hogan, Arnold Palmer and watching Tiger Woods that convinced me to change my swing in the 90's. I started hitting soft balls and it has been hit an miss but I did get to a single digit with poor arm and hand mechanics just by focusing on my alignment and weight shift. I had me speed measured at close to 130. I have an extended driver that I think I can reach 125, again with a focus on the weight shift but with better mechanics. I am 56. Speaking of gaining speed, I saw a 3 mph per inch increase of shaft length for those interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 It’s C Club, so not something to get TOO excited about, but making gains and nice to see a new PR. First time in the 140s… edingc and Chip Strokes 1 1 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Strokes Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said: It’s C Club, so not something to get TOO excited about, but making gains and nice to see a new PR. First time in the 140s… that’s awesome man!!! gettin fast!! edingc and GolfSpy AFG 1 1 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_R_A_D_Y Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/23/2021 at 4:59 PM, Cblade said: I lift weights frequently due to back issues with a focus on the lower body (front squats, power cleans, lunges) etc. I have also learned that just loading my right side sufficiently increases my clubhead speed by 10 mph according to my golf radar. It was Ben Hogan, Arnold Palmer and watching Tiger Woods that convinced me to change my swing in the 90's. I started hitting soft balls and it has been hit an miss but I did get to a single digit with poor arm and hand mechanics just by focusing on my alignment and weight shift. I had me speed measured at close to 130. I have an extended driver that I think I can reach 125, again with a focus on the weight shift but with better mechanics. I am 56. Speaking of gaining speed, I saw a 3 mph per inch increase of shaft length for those interested. Just an FYI … A gorilla is strong, but not fast. A gazelle is fast but not strong. Be a gorzella my friend. Balance strength training with speed training. As a matter of fact, performing one then the other, increases your twitch muscle fibers, which u use for speed. Cblade 1 Quote TSi3 #1-3-5 all with Tensi Blue S-flex 2019 Apex Pro black 3 & 4H Catalyst 70 or TSi3 #2-3 depending on how I’m playing. Tensi Blue 2019 Calloway Apex Pro black, 5-PW, Catalyst 100 - 6.0, Super Stroker Jumbo 2020 RadSpeed OL 4H, 5-GW … won’t get to actually use till warmer weather 2019 PM-grind, 56° & 60°, KBS steel, Green Cap Blue Spider EX Pro V1X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 Been a while since I posted here...still at it my friends! I just started Level 3 SuperSpeed training this week, which I'll post progress of after I've got a few weeks under my belt. I'll also post the workouts...still plenty of heavy deadlifts, squats, and weighted sled work paired with jumps, sprints, and med ball work. This offseason I've got two main swing keys to really iron out...forward hip sway and re-hinging the club. After a stretch of consistent low 70s golf, I ended the season on a whimper of low to barely breaking 80's, largely due to consistently blocking shots and with a loss of distance. The culprit...sliding forward too much out of an ill-advised desire to cover the ball, and a focus too much on using the body to control the club face and not releasing the club through impact. Below is a GolfTec lesson image wherein we identified the culprit and the fixes. (Bad on the left, good on the right.) I'm thinking about buying a Power Fan to work on the wrist hinging part, but I already have plenty of training aids and Orange Whip and the PlaneMate each have protocols that offer to address this. As far as the sway, I basically need to get into the thought of staying more centered and posting up and turning, rather than sliding forward. A Nebraska offseason in the basement awaits to try and drill these fixes home! I'll probably get on a sim a couple times a month to see how I'm doing progress wise. edingc 1 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said: Been a while since I posted here...still at it my friends! I just started Level 3 SuperSpeed training this week, which I'll post progress of after I've got a few weeks under my belt. I'll also post the workouts...still plenty of heavy deadlifts, squats, and weighted sled work paired with jumps, sprints, and med ball work. This offseason I've got two main swing keys to really iron out...forward hip sway and re-hinging the club. After a stretch of consistent low 70s golf, I ended the season on a whimper of low to barely breaking 80's, largely due to consistently blocking shots and with a loss of distance. The culprit...sliding forward too much out of an ill-advised desire to cover the ball, and a focus too much on using the body to control the club face and not releasing the club through impact. Below is a GolfTec lesson image wherein we identified the culprit and the fixes. (Bad on the left, good on the right.) I'm thinking about buying a Power Fan to work on the wrist hinging part, but I already have plenty of training aids and Orange Whip and the PlaneMate each have protocols that offer to address this. As far as the sway, I basically need to get into the thought of staying more centered and posting up and turning, rather than sliding forward. A Nebraska offseason in the basement awaits to try and drill these fixes home! I'll probably get on a sim a couple times a month to see how I'm doing progress wise. IIRC, you bought the Force Pedals, too. Have you used them? My limited use of a tennis ball cut in half has seemingly done wonders for my pivot and staying more centered throughout the swing. GolfSpy AFG 1 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted December 18, 2021 Author Share Posted December 18, 2021 23 hours ago, edingc said: IIRC, you bought the Force Pedals, too. Have you used them? My limited use of a tennis ball cut in half has seemingly done wonders for my pivot and staying more centered throughout the swing. Yeah, I did pick those up, and I think they’re helping but I’m not ready to definitively say they’ve helped yet…feel not always being real and all. I’ll see when I get some numbers at a January/February lesson. edingc 1 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted January 16, 2022 Author Share Posted January 16, 2022 So I'm doing a little panicking/freaking out right now. I have a shoulder injury that could potentially sideline me for the season. Long story short, Thanksgiving week I was snowboarding at Keystone, took a fall, and my left shoulder felt a little stiff for the next day or two after. I didn't think anything of it, went back to my gym routine the following week, and noticed the same stiffness but no loss of strength or range of motion. After about a month in the gym, I took a week off to go on another road trip with the family. When I got back to the gym, something wasn't right. Pressing movements hurt, and I normally do cable external and internal rotations with 15 pounds on the stack, largely to build strong and healthy rotator cuffs. I could barely do 5 with my left arm, and as I type this I have a persistent ache and some odd range of motion issues...I can move it in every direction but some angles come with some pain. And, if I stretch it out (arm across the chest, pulling the arm into me with the other arm) I get about 3-4 pops and clicks from the shoulder. If I have rotator cuff tendinitis, that's about a month of rest and that will drive me crazy, but I can be a big boy and deal with it. If it's a tear, I could be staring at a surgery that will cancel my golf season. I've been icing the hell out of it and I'm finding a little less pain as I explore the range of motion, so hopefully it's just inflamed and I'm slowly bringing that inflammation down. I'm going to see the doctor on Tuesday, and I would think that will lead to an X-Ray or (hopefully) MRI....really really hoping to not lose an entire season. Prior to this my speed and weight training was really paying off. I hit new SuperSpeed PRs (145 C Club, 139 green) and really feel like I can have a great year. We'll see. Fingers crossed. Tom the Golf Nut, cnosil, sirchunksalot and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMart519 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 On 1/16/2022 at 11:17 AM, Getoffmylawn said: So I'm doing a little panicking/freaking out right now. I have a shoulder injury that could potentially sideline me for the season. Long story short, Thanksgiving week I was snowboarding at Keystone, took a fall, and my left shoulder felt a little stiff for the next day or two after. I didn't think anything of it, went back to my gym routine the following week, and noticed the same stiffness but no loss of strength or range of motion. After about a month in the gym, I took a week off to go on another road trip with the family. When I got back to the gym, something wasn't right. Pressing movements hurt, and I normally do cable external and internal rotations with 15 pounds on the stack, largely to build strong and healthy rotator cuffs. I could barely do 5 with my left arm, and as I type this I have a persistent ache and some odd range of motion issues...I can move it in every direction but some angles come with some pain. And, if I stretch it out (arm across the chest, pulling the arm into me with the other arm) I get about 3-4 pops and clicks from the shoulder. If I have rotator cuff tendinitis, that's about a month of rest and that will drive me crazy, but I can be a big boy and deal with it. If it's a tear, I could be staring at a surgery that will cancel my golf season. I've been icing the hell out of it and I'm finding a little less pain as I explore the range of motion, so hopefully it's just inflamed and I'm slowly bringing that inflammation down. I'm going to see the doctor on Tuesday, and I would think that will lead to an X-Ray or (hopefully) MRI....really really hoping to not lose an entire season. Prior to this my speed and weight training was really paying off. I hit new SuperSpeed PRs (145 C Club, 139 green) and really feel like I can have a great year. We'll see. Fingers crossed. US and Canadian medical systems are quite different but you are a number of steps away from surgery being suggested. The only time surgery and diagnostic imaging was brought up for my shoulder was when the pain was affecting my ability to sleep. Tears are commonly managed by strengthening the area unless: they are severe and impacting quality of life or can no longer complete job function (anything from manual laborer to pro athlete). ***Unless you have top of line medical coverage or willing to foot the bill out of pocket and push for a surgery. Sounds similar to my situation where pressing anything over 150 lbs causes discomfort and certain angles are a no-go. Also primarily due to awkward snowboarding falls on my elbows and shoulders. GolfSpy AFG 1 Quote G425 MAX Driver & 5W Baffler Rail-H 3H-4H 699 Pro Utility V2 - 4i APEX CF19 6-AW INDI Wedges 52, 56, 60 EAS 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 I was in dire straights with my left shoulder as well, not a cool story like your snowboarding injury but I had surgery. In hindsight I wish I would have done more PT first. I had a 18 month recovery, and I’m still not right. Rest has done wonders for my elbow. I wish you nothing but the best on your recovery road. GolfSpy AFG and sirchunksalot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 3 hours ago, BMart519 said: US and Canadian medical systems are quite different but you are a number of steps away from surgery being suggested. The only time surgery and diagnostic imaging was brought up for my shoulder was when the pain was affecting my ability to sleep. Tears are commonly managed by strengthening the area unless: they are severe and impacting quality of life or can no longer complete job function (anything from manual laborer to pro athlete). ***Unless you have top of line medical coverage or willing to foot the bill out of pocket and push for a surgery. Sounds similar to my situation where pressing anything over 150 lbs causes discomfort and certain angles are a no-go. Also primarily due to awkward snowboarding falls on my elbows and shoulders. Thanks. I’m a bit surprised to have this problem; I’ve been doing cable external and internal rotations enough that I would have expected to have some strong rotator cuffs. Since my last post I’ve been icing aggressively and I’m cautiously optimistic I’m going to get a tendinitis diagnosis. That I can deal with; definitely don’t want surgery. I actually still did my SuperSpeed workout and sprints this morning, and baby weights at high reps for chest and back…I would think I couldn’t really do that with a tear…? Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMart519 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 16 hours ago, Getoffmylawn said: Thanks. I’m a bit surprised to have this problem; I’ve been doing cable external and internal rotations enough that I would have expected to have some strong rotator cuffs. Since my last post I’ve been icing aggressively and I’m cautiously optimistic I’m going to get a tendinitis diagnosis. That I can deal with; definitely don’t want surgery. I actually still did my SuperSpeed workout and sprints this morning, and baby weights at high reps for chest and back…I would think I couldn’t really do that with a tear…? Feedback from my physio is I likely have some degree of SLAP tear in my shoulder. Speed training doesn't really aggravate it. The biggest issue is pressing near 3-5 rep max or high volume push ups. Rows and back exercises have no effect. Lifting weights helps reinforce the surrounding muscles to support the joint. If left alone, the lack of exercise allows slack in the ball and socket joint which increases discomfort as it "grinds" over the area with tears. My worst snowboarding fall resulted in not being able to lift my arm above shoulder height for a few weeks if I remember correctly. Which is more severe than what you describe. GolfSpy AFG 1 Quote G425 MAX Driver & 5W Baffler Rail-H 3H-4H 699 Pro Utility V2 - 4i APEX CF19 6-AW INDI Wedges 52, 56, 60 EAS 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted January 18, 2022 Author Share Posted January 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, BMart519 said: Feedback from my physio is I likely have some degree of SLAP tear in my shoulder. Speed training doesn't really aggravate it. The biggest issue is pressing near 3-5 rep max or high volume push ups. Rows and back exercises have no effect. Lifting weights helps reinforce the surrounding muscles to support the joint. If left alone, the lack of exercise allows slack in the ball and socket joint which increases discomfort as it "grinds" over the area with tears. My worst snowboarding fall resulted in not being able to lift my arm above shoulder height for a few weeks if I remember correctly. Which is more severe than what you describe. Yeah, I just got back and the doctor was confident I'm just dealing with tendonitis...possibly a small tear but the treatment will be the same. Ice, ibuprofen, and I'm being referred to a physical therapist. I was even told I can continue to lift, but basically stop if it hurts and go for a lighter weight higher rep scheme for a bit. Feeling VERY relieved to avoid something more serious; didn't want to miss out on the upcoming season. ejgaudette, BMart519 and edingc 3 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted January 18, 2022 Author Share Posted January 18, 2022 Sitting here with an ice pack on my shoulder and I thought I'd go ahead and provide an update on my speed and lower scores pursuits. Lower scores? We'll see when the snow melts. Last year I set two personal bests but lost my way and ended up fighting blocks for the last 3-4 weeks of the season. Having taken a few lessons that I believe have identified the fix, I'm getting extremely excited to attack the course next year. Newfound (and hopefully still climbing) speed, a lot of offseason putting practice, DECADE Foundations, and even some pretty consistent meditation practice, and I'm confident I'm primed for a good year. As for the workout regimen, here's last week's workout in all it's glorious (or boring) detail: Monday SuperSpeed Level 3 4 sets, 40M Weighted Sleds at 520 pounds followed by 3 minutes rest, then 40M sprints 3 sets, 4 reps of Trap Bar Deadlifts at 330 pounds, 3 minutes rest, then 5 reps of Medicine Ball Overhead Slams w/8 lb ball 3 sets, 3 reps of Incline Dumbbell Presses w/90s, 3 minutes rest, then 5 Plyo Push-ups Wednesday SuperSpeed Level 3, C Club Hypertrophy workout...Shoulders, Triceps, Biceps, Forearms, Calves...hitting all the beach muscles that more golf-focused power workouts on Monday and Friday don't hit. I do a lot of cable internal and external rotations to strengthen the rotator cuff, ironically enough. Friday 3 sets, Squats at 365 pounds paired followed by 3 minutes rest, then 5 box jumps 3 sets, 5 reps of Lat Pulldowns at 200 pounds followed by 3 minutes rest, then 5 Medicine Ball Overhead Slams w/8 lb ball 3 sets, 5 reps of Hammer Strength Wide Chest at 270 pounds followed by 3 minutes rest, then 5 Medicine Ball Wall Slams Abs are a MWF undertaking which I won't bore everyone with further here. The speed gains are coming, slowly but surely...I'll post a progress update specific to speed shortly. edingc 1 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted January 29, 2022 Author Share Posted January 29, 2022 Quick update: my rotator cuff tendinitis isn’t getting better, or worse. I went to my first physical therapy session today and was told to stop icing because I was only delaying the healing process. I was also given some exercises to do, and had my first dry needling experience today too. It honestly feels improved already, but we’ll see if that holds up. On another note, I highly recommend checking out the latest Fit for Golf podcast with Sasho McKenzie as the guest. A bit of a technical discussion, but the conversation concerning wrist angles was really interesting. According to Sasho, wrist angles and the ability to transfer power ti the club through the wrist joint is the single greatest contributor to clubhead speed, NOT ground reaction forces. Passive hands and wrist angles will definitely be a speed training focus for me going forward. edingc and cnosil 2 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 43 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said: According to Sasho, wrist angles and the ability to transfer power ti the club through the wrist joint is the single greatest contributor to clubhead speed, NOT ground reaction forces. Passive hands and wrist angles will definitely be a speed training focus for me going forward. Watch videos from most instructors and they will tell you that proper wrist movement is key. If the wrists aren’t moving right the club and thus the club face aren’t going to be out of position and it’s going to be nothing but compensation in the swing causing inefficient body movement. Monte talks about wrists as well as the hips. Mike Adams says if you want to walk faster swing the arms faster and the same applies in golf. GolfSpy AFG and edingc 2 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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