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How does the course/tee box impact your index on GHIN. My score doesn't seem to be impacted whether I play a course with a 115 or 123 slope rating. When I enter my score, I do select the proper course and tee box.  Just wondering.  

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11 minutes ago, tony@CIC said:

How does the course/tee box impact your index on GHIN. My score doesn't seem to be impacted whether I play a course with a 115 or 123 slope rating. When I enter my score, I do select the proper course and tee box.  Just wondering.  

You can read about calculation of Score Differential and Handicap Index in Section 5.1 here:

https://www.usga.org/handicapping/roh/2020-rules-of-handicapping.html

The equation is 

Score Differential    =    (113 ÷Slope Rating)    x    (adjusted gross score – Course Rating – PCC adjustment)

Your Handicap Index is the average of the best 8 Differentials from the most recent 20.  

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3 hours ago, DaveP043 said:

You can read about calculation of Score Differential and Handicap Index in Section 5.1 here:

https://www.usga.org/handicapping/roh/2020-rules-of-handicapping.html

The equation is 

Score Differential    =    (113 ÷Slope Rating)    x    (adjusted gross score – Course Rating – PCC adjustment)

Your Handicap Index is the average of the best 8 Differentials from the most recent 20.  

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4 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

How does the course/tee box impact your index on GHIN. My score doesn't seem to be impacted whether I play a course with a 115 or 123 slope rating. When I enter my score, I do select the proper course and tee box.  Just wondering.  

The way my course is laid out for the Blue tees (6068y and slope 127) vs the White tees (5418y and slope 113), I generally shoot the same scores.  I can't reach the par 5's in two shots from either tee.  One par 4 is easier to get to the green in two shots from the White tee, and one par 3 from the White tee is a mid-iron shot vs a hybrid or FW from the Blue tee.  As a result, posting my usual scores from the White tees increases my index by a couple of shots over posting my usual scores from the Blue tees.  Although there is over a 600 yard difference, playing from the White tees doesn't feel any easier, and my scores show it.

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10 minutes ago, Kenny B said:

The way my course is laid out for the Blue tees (6068y and slope 127) vs the White tees (5418y and slope 113), I generally shoot the same scores.  I can't reach the par 5's in two shots from either tee.  One par 4 is easier to get to the green in two shots from the White tee, and one par 3 from the White tee is a mid-iron shot vs a hybrid or FW from the Blue tee.  As a result, posting my usual scores from the White tees increases my index by a couple of shots over posting my usual scores from the Blue tees.  Although there is over a 600 yard difference, playing from the White tees doesn't feel any easier, and my scores show it.

This is one of the difficulties of rating courses, the same factors impact different players differently.  An increase of 600 yards would mean having no chance of reaching 4 or 5 or 6 greens in regulation for a shorter player, but might have a much smaller impact on someone who hits it longer.  I think the current rating system works OK in general, but I know there are some "inconsistencies" for many individuals.  I don't know that there's a significantly better way to do things, to make it more "right" for more players.

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50 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

This is one of the difficulties of rating courses, the same factors impact different players differently.  An increase of 600 yards would mean having no chance of reaching 4 or 5 or 6 greens in regulation for a shorter player, but might have a much smaller impact on someone who hits it longer.  I think the current rating system works OK in general, but I know there are some "inconsistencies" for many individuals.  I don't know that there's a significantly better way to do things, to make it more "right" for more players.

I pretty much fit the USGA definition of a "bogey golfer" for distance.  With no wind and a decent swing, I can reach all greens in regulation from our Blue tees.  

While I think the rating system is reasonable in most cases, playing from the White tees does not necessarily mean an easier next shot than from the Blue tees.  In some cases the difference is a layup short of a penalty area with a different club.  In other cases it is a partial wedge shot to the green instead of a full wedge shot.  

I would like to think that moving up 600 yards would be more fun and something I should do as I got older.  However, it appears that the rating system for my course is more advantageous for my game from the Blue tees than moving up to the White tees, even though I'm hitting a lot of long clubs.  So, I keep trying to increase distance and improve my game to keep playing from the Blues.  The alternative is to change courses to one that better suits my game.

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I've noticed that, or at least feel, I should always play the highest rated set of tees possible. I've noticed that even if my score is higher the higher slope and rating effect my index less. I've not broke 80 this month, but my index hasn't gone up.

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