Jump to content
TESTERS WANTED! ×

2020 Official Member Review: Ping Heppler putter


StrokerAce

Recommended Posts

I posted my review this morning.  I considered it an honor to have been chosen and I hope I have included enough info for others to benefit from.  I will be happy to add more pics, videos &/or info to it if requested.  It has gamer status and I will add to it as time goes by.

Modern Bag:  :ping-small: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex;   :titelist-small:  915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex;  Snake Eyes 18* 2h, 23* 4h & 27* 5h; :mizuno-small: JPX 900 Forged 6 - PW, PX LZ 6.0;  Edison 2.0 49*, 53*, 57* KBS Tour 120 S;   :ping-small:  Heppler Fetch;  Ball - :Snell: MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! 

Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder

Classic Bag:  Driver - :wilson_staff_small: Persimmon; 3w - :Hogan: Speed Slot; 5w - :wilson_staff_small: Tour Block; 3 - pw - :wilson_staff_small: Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson;  putter - bullseye standard or flange.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, Shapotomous said:

I posted my review this morning.  I considered it an honor to have been chosen and I hope I have included enough info for others to benefit from.  I will be happy to add more pics, videos &/or info to it if requested.  It has gamer status and I will add to it as time goes by.

Great review! Enjoyed all the videos and comments on the putter...even the wildlife involvement 🤣. Do you think the flat face helped you on longer putts vs. a textured face with your swing type? I've noticed this when comparing my original Anser 2 to the TA Impact #3 mallet putter - I'm closer on longer putts 20'+ thanks to the solid face, where as I'm longer on mid-putts and the Impact is better from 8-15' range due to the same issues. However the larger MOI on these Heppler putters might mitigate my mid-distance misses that some... Curious about your thoughts, or any other testers!

In my :ping-small: Hoofer:

:ping-small: G410 LST 10.5* - Kai'Li White 60 X-flex

:nike-small: VRS Covert 3W 15* - Kuro Kage 65 S-flex

  :titelist-small:  T200 4-GW, DG X100 Tour Issue - Tester

:ping-small: Glide 2.0 Stealth 54.12 SS & 58.10 SS

:ping-small:  Zing 2 LW - 60*

:ping-small:  Anser 2

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Getting close to review time so probably last graph. After playing with the length now moved it to the max 36" for the last 2 rounds.  Greens are slower but I'm really beginning to get confidence with the putter, 7 singles in the last round with a couple of 10-15 footers. Scaring the hole with most putts within 30 feet and pace from every length good .

image.png.7e7a45c94144d0d21958ada4f6f16a04.png

WIMB

Driver Callaway Epic 10.5' Fujikura Stiff

3W Callaway Epic 15' Fujikura Stiff

3-AW Srixon Z565 Nippon Stiff

52', 56' Cleveland RTX 585 Wedges

Putter Taylormade Rosa Daytona

Bags 2017 Callaway Org14 Cart bag or 2018 Srixon Z start Carry bag 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

19 hours ago, Tarheelvolvo said:

Great review! Enjoyed all the videos and comments on the putter...even the wildlife involvement 🤣. Do you think the flat face helped you on longer putts vs. a textured face with your swing type? I've noticed this when comparing my original Anser 2 to the TA Impact #3 mallet putter - I'm closer on longer putts 20'+ thanks to the solid face, where as I'm longer on mid-putts and the Impact is better from 8-15' range due to the same issues. However the larger MOI on these Heppler putters might mitigate my mid-distance misses that some... Curious about your thoughts, or any other testers!

For distance control I think the solid face is a better choice for me than an insert putter.  I believe that is due to my lack of consistency hitting the sweet spot and the insert style varies more than a solid face.  

Modern Bag:  :ping-small: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex;   :titelist-small:  915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex;  Snake Eyes 18* 2h, 23* 4h & 27* 5h; :mizuno-small: JPX 900 Forged 6 - PW, PX LZ 6.0;  Edison 2.0 49*, 53*, 57* KBS Tour 120 S;   :ping-small:  Heppler Fetch;  Ball - :Snell: MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! 

Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder

Classic Bag:  Driver - :wilson_staff_small: Persimmon; 3w - :Hogan: Speed Slot; 5w - :wilson_staff_small: Tour Block; 3 - pw - :wilson_staff_small: Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson;  putter - bullseye standard or flange.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

My official review is up and running, let me know what you think!

 DRIVER: default_cobra-small.jpg.125f3712aad21ad9f7ca2c672e34a299.jpg  Cobra F-8 set at 10.5,  Aldila NV 2KXV Blue 60 (R) 44 1/2 "

3 & 5 WOOD: default_callaway-small.jpg.a58e7c6760b71a9eb95d385ecc5d2200.jpg Callaway XR-16, Fujikura Speeder Evolution 565 Red (R) 

IRONS 5-SW: default_ping-small.jpg.b7606a25498d65282474c96f18d2debd.jpg PING G-700, 2 upright, std loft  Alta CB (R) + 1/2"

HYBRID 3-4:  default_ping-small.jpg.b7606a25498d65282474c96f18d2debd.jpg PING G-410, 1 upright,  Alta CB 70 Red (R) + 1/2"

PUTTER: Byron Experimental GSS

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just posted my review.

Really enjoyed doing the review as I've mentioned before it gets you doing things that you wouldn't normally do when practising your putting. The videoing in particular has highlighted some issues with my technique that I've worked on.

 

Latest update on stats.

I had a total blow out on Thursday when playing The Castle Course in St Andrews, 37 putts, BUT I had moved from slow parkland greens to very fast ironed links greens that are the most undulating greens I've played. Putting for birdie on 8 from 60 feet with 12 feet break  and 6 feet downhill is just an example of one of the putts. 

Back on game yesterday with 30 putts. Today we called off after 4 holes due to fog but 4 single putts.

It is still my new Gamer.

 

 

WIMB

Driver Callaway Epic 10.5' Fujikura Stiff

3W Callaway Epic 15' Fujikura Stiff

3-AW Srixon Z565 Nippon Stiff

52', 56' Cleveland RTX 585 Wedges

Putter Taylormade Rosa Daytona

Bags 2017 Callaway Org14 Cart bag or 2018 Srixon Z start Carry bag 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

My review has been posted, I hope you all enjoy.

Thanks again to MGS and Ping for the opportunity.

Driver - default_taylormade-small.jpg R9 Superdeep TP 10.5* - Mitsubishi Rayon Diamana 65g XStiff Shaft

3 Wood - 2020 1ef73718.png Tight Lies 16* - Aldila Synergy Red 50-S Shaft

2 Hybrid - 1ef73718.png Idea Pro - Aldila VS Proto+ 'By You' 80-S Shaft

3 Iron - default_taylormade-small.jpg R7TP DGTT SL S300 Shaft

4-9 Irons - default_taylormade-small.jpg R7TP DGTT X-100 Shafts (6i has mismatched Project X 6.0 shaft)

Sand Wedge - Adams GT XTreme 2 SW

Putter - default_ping-small.jpg Heppler Tomcat 14

Ball - default_titelist-small.jpg Tour Soft

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Found my first issue with the Floki.

If you use Arccos or Shot Scope you will not be able to screw the standard sensor into the grip but due to the screw mechanism access for length adjustment.

IMG_4911.JPEG.becf43631fe36d4c39c8bb2c43236b12.JPEG

WIMB

Driver Callaway Epic 10.5' Fujikura Stiff

3W Callaway Epic 15' Fujikura Stiff

3-AW Srixon Z565 Nippon Stiff

52', 56' Cleveland RTX 585 Wedges

Putter Taylormade Rosa Daytona

Bags 2017 Callaway Org14 Cart bag or 2018 Srixon Z start Carry bag 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

43 minutes ago, Alf. S said:

Found my first issue with the Floki.

If you use Arccos or Shot Scope you will not be able to screw the standard sensor into the grip but due to the screw mechanism access for length adjustment.

IMG_4911.JPEG.becf43631fe36d4c39c8bb2c43236b12.JPEG

I found that out also, I am thinking about cutting off the tip of it a little bit so that it fits flush. But after using it for a couple of rounds, it didn't bother me all that much.

Driver - default_taylormade-small.jpg R9 Superdeep TP 10.5* - Mitsubishi Rayon Diamana 65g XStiff Shaft

3 Wood - 2020 1ef73718.png Tight Lies 16* - Aldila Synergy Red 50-S Shaft

2 Hybrid - 1ef73718.png Idea Pro - Aldila VS Proto+ 'By You' 80-S Shaft

3 Iron - default_taylormade-small.jpg R7TP DGTT SL S300 Shaft

4-9 Irons - default_taylormade-small.jpg R7TP DGTT X-100 Shafts (6i has mismatched Project X 6.0 shaft)

Sand Wedge - Adams GT XTreme 2 SW

Putter - default_ping-small.jpg Heppler Tomcat 14

Ball - default_titelist-small.jpg Tour Soft

Link to comment
Share on other sites

My wrist finally felt good enough to give it some on course therapy and I got to use the Fetch for 9 holes today.  It performed really well.  A couple long 40 and 50'ers that ended up within a foot of the hole, a 20'er that lipped out and a 15' birdie that dropped.  No three putts, the worst putt was a misread that left a 5'er and i made that to save par.  There is no threat to its Gamer status!

Modern Bag:  :ping-small: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex;   :titelist-small:  915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex;  Snake Eyes 18* 2h, 23* 4h & 27* 5h; :mizuno-small: JPX 900 Forged 6 - PW, PX LZ 6.0;  Edison 2.0 49*, 53*, 57* KBS Tour 120 S;   :ping-small:  Heppler Fetch;  Ball - :Snell: MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! 

Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder

Classic Bag:  Driver - :wilson_staff_small: Persimmon; 3w - :Hogan: Speed Slot; 5w - :wilson_staff_small: Tour Block; 3 - pw - :wilson_staff_small: Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson;  putter - bullseye standard or flange.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 11/18/2020 at 1:41 PM, MyWifesSwingCoach said:

I found that out also, I am thinking about cutting off the tip of it a little bit so that it fits flush. But after using it for a couple of rounds, it didn't bother me all that much.

I did exactly that with my PING Tyne 4 and it worked out fine. 

:ping-small: G430 Max 10K 

:titelist-small: TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g

:titelist-small: TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og

:titelist-small: TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R

:titelist-small: T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 

:titelist-small: SM10 48F/54M and58K

:ping-small: S159 48S/52S/56W/60B

:scotty-cameron-1: Select 5.5 Flowback 35" 

:titelist-small: ProV1  Play number 12

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sunday Night, flash sale notices and a love of mallet putters is a dangerous combo.

i have a Heppler Tomcat on the way 😎

Of course i paid for 2 day shipping so I’ll have it in time for a tournament on Friday!

:ping-small: G430 Max 10K 

:titelist-small: TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g

:titelist-small: TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og

:titelist-small: TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R

:titelist-small: T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 

:titelist-small: SM10 48F/54M and58K

:ping-small: S159 48S/52S/56W/60B

:scotty-cameron-1: Select 5.5 Flowback 35" 

:titelist-small: ProV1  Play number 12

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 4 weeks later...

Funny happened in my last couple of rounds,,,,,,,

 

1-3 footers are no big deal now, the alignment makes it so simple, thinking of carrying two putters,, this one for short knee knockers......,, lag/long putts is the same as  with my gamer therefore I have concluded I suck at it and no shinny new putter will help!

 DRIVER: default_cobra-small.jpg.125f3712aad21ad9f7ca2c672e34a299.jpg  Cobra F-8 set at 10.5,  Aldila NV 2KXV Blue 60 (R) 44 1/2 "

3 & 5 WOOD: default_callaway-small.jpg.a58e7c6760b71a9eb95d385ecc5d2200.jpg Callaway XR-16, Fujikura Speeder Evolution 565 Red (R) 

IRONS 5-SW: default_ping-small.jpg.b7606a25498d65282474c96f18d2debd.jpg PING G-700, 2 upright, std loft  Alta CB (R) + 1/2"

HYBRID 3-4:  default_ping-small.jpg.b7606a25498d65282474c96f18d2debd.jpg PING G-410, 1 upright,  Alta CB 70 Red (R) + 1/2"

PUTTER: Byron Experimental GSS

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I too have definitely have had more success on the up to 5' range and I attribute it to the improved alignment.  I also think there was a positive effect of going through the test process itself and videoing.  I was making a study of my putting process with alignment, head / eye position, hand height, stroke path and length during the testing and made a few changes that I think made me more consistent.  So along with the new putter and adjustments I am more confident and seeing better results.  The Fetch has kept its gamer status.  

Modern Bag:  :ping-small: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex;   :titelist-small:  915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex;  Snake Eyes 18* 2h, 23* 4h & 27* 5h; :mizuno-small: JPX 900 Forged 6 - PW, PX LZ 6.0;  Edison 2.0 49*, 53*, 57* KBS Tour 120 S;   :ping-small:  Heppler Fetch;  Ball - :Snell: MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! 

Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder

Classic Bag:  Driver - :wilson_staff_small: Persimmon; 3w - :Hogan: Speed Slot; 5w - :wilson_staff_small: Tour Block; 3 - pw - :wilson_staff_small: Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson;  putter - bullseye standard or flange.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...

I played a practice 9 on Saturday and was gaming the Fetch.  Between the extra work on my set up & putting stroke for the review and the Fetch itself I am really seeing a big improvement in hitting my intended line.  I dropped a few 8 - 10 footers and practiced a few bombs from across the greens that passed within a few inches of the cups.

Modern Bag:  :ping-small: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex;   :titelist-small:  915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex;  Snake Eyes 18* 2h, 23* 4h & 27* 5h; :mizuno-small: JPX 900 Forged 6 - PW, PX LZ 6.0;  Edison 2.0 49*, 53*, 57* KBS Tour 120 S;   :ping-small:  Heppler Fetch;  Ball - :Snell: MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! 

Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder

Classic Bag:  Driver - :wilson_staff_small: Persimmon; 3w - :Hogan: Speed Slot; 5w - :wilson_staff_small: Tour Block; 3 - pw - :wilson_staff_small: Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson;  putter - bullseye standard or flange.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

The battle for the gamer spot continues

My current gamer leads in the distance control

PIPER C leads in direction control

Feel, it's a tie

Don't know if am bragging or complaining !!!!

 DRIVER: default_cobra-small.jpg.125f3712aad21ad9f7ca2c672e34a299.jpg  Cobra F-8 set at 10.5,  Aldila NV 2KXV Blue 60 (R) 44 1/2 "

3 & 5 WOOD: default_callaway-small.jpg.a58e7c6760b71a9eb95d385ecc5d2200.jpg Callaway XR-16, Fujikura Speeder Evolution 565 Red (R) 

IRONS 5-SW: default_ping-small.jpg.b7606a25498d65282474c96f18d2debd.jpg PING G-700, 2 upright, std loft  Alta CB (R) + 1/2"

HYBRID 3-4:  default_ping-small.jpg.b7606a25498d65282474c96f18d2debd.jpg PING G-410, 1 upright,  Alta CB 70 Red (R) + 1/2"

PUTTER: Byron Experimental GSS

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 months later...

4 competition rounds into the new season and I thought I would give an update on the Floki.

I used the Floki for most of the Winter on slow greens. As followers of my retirement posts will know that after an enforced break in January my game in general and putting stats have gone a bit South. This resulted in me swapping around my putter collection to try and get some consistency back.

Across the putters my stroke doesn't change much but the one thing I did determine was when using my old Rossa Daytona I could hear a difference in off centre hits that I couldn't with the Floki. On videoing the stroke I was definitely hitting the ball out of the heel, especially on longer putts. Changed the ball position to more forward in my strance and left arm more neutral this resulted in me hitting the ball better. Back to the Floki with the new setup and putted a little better on Saturday with 34 putts. My chipping is not helping me at the moment, duffed chips left me with some horror putts which gave me 2 x 3 putts. With very little early season growth the greens are not running at their best either.

On the putter itself after putting on sanded greens over winter and hitting over 30 balls a round the finish is holding up well, there are a few minor scratches on the bottom but not really noticeable unless closely scrutinised. The head cover is also still in good condition and holding up well, although I did use a old cover part of the time in the close season.

Is it still my Gamer? Just, my confidence is low at the moment so it nay get swapped out, time will tell.

 

WIMB

Driver Callaway Epic 10.5' Fujikura Stiff

3W Callaway Epic 15' Fujikura Stiff

3-AW Srixon Z565 Nippon Stiff

52', 56' Cleveland RTX 585 Wedges

Putter Taylormade Rosa Daytona

Bags 2017 Callaway Org14 Cart bag or 2018 Srixon Z start Carry bag 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 9/25/2020 at 10:26 AM, Shapotomous said:

The Review 10/1/20 – 10/28/20

Ping Heppler Fetch – Official MGS Forum Review by Shapotomous

I was really happy to be chosen as a Heppler putter reviewer by MGS.  I have a collection of putters, mostly vintage Ping or Bullseye or TPM, but also a few newer Odyssey’s and the most recent gamer was a SeeMore FGP.  I was never fit for a putter but just rotate through whatever model fits my eye, feels good and is ‘hot’ in practice.  They all seem to work about the same, some with a stronger trend toward my usual push miss than others.  I also have a 12 x 24 putting green in the backyard that is great stress relief and gets a lot of play.  For me it was a better use of “splurge money” than a Harley or boat would have been.

 20200924_093835.jpg.e3ec0e5144e902727a7322c010d78c00.jpg

I started playing back in the early ‘70’s.  I was very lucky to work at a country club & for about 6 years I got to hit a ton of range balls, spend hours on the practice green, play evenings and get lots of instruction from the asst pros…..all for free!!  Best job there was for a golf nut!! 

 My handicap has always ranged from a 5 – 7.  When I was a young punk putting saved my scores as I took chances that were fun but generally were low percentage.  The handicap has stayed roughly the same through the years but the gradual shift in my game currently has putting as my weak point.   

First Impressions of the Ping Heppler Fetch!!

My right out of the box impression of the Fetch is the look is not ‘busy’ and being more used to playing blades, the head size is not too big.  I like the copper / black color scheme and the black shaft also looks good.  

 20201001_195832.jpg.9f44124bf6c7ac901caac102d437e6c7.jpg

It sits square to my eye and also to the grid pattern on the kitchen floor.  It feels heavier than most putters I use.  Some comparison data on that later. 

20201001_201320.jpg.2eee28a22e6f223e9788fde9440ef1ed.jpg

 

I am a gadget guy and tinkerer, so the adjustable length with an included small tool that fits in the end of the grip is really cool to me.  Simply turning the tool easily adjusts the length shorter or longer.  There are marks on the back side of the shaft to give you a reference on how far you are moving it.  There is also a vertical straight line reference mark on the shaft I suppose is there to help align a grip if you change it.

20201001_195329.jpg.adf3f988357cdb54ea65f234a94e9c4d.jpg 

The sight lines on the back of the Fetch look good to me.  One of my putting issues is alignment so I hoped these would help me get the ball rolling on the correct path.  The hole in the back to lift the ball is not distracting to me, my eye goes to the lines not the hole.  The hole works as intended “Fetch”ing the ball up easily either from the putting surface or in the hole since the Fetch is sized to fit in the hole. 

20201001_203629.jpg.40e41aa5bb5bbf1050b6e7dbc2d6eac1.jpg 

Grading Section
Looks (9 out of 10 points)

       I have always been a blade style player but recently began trying a few mallets.  I like this mallet size, shape and the sight lines on the back.  It is not too big to my eye, some of the mallets are so large as to look like garden tools rather than putters!  The color scheme you see when addressing the ball is not distracting and does not reflect the sun in an annoying way.  The black shaft adds to the color scheme nicely.  The putter sets up square and my hands feel like they are at a good spot.  The shaft bend at the hosel is graceful and not too angular.

       I don’t think it comes across as too flashy like some mallets.  The shape and color scheme are simpler to me when compared to a Teron or a Spider.  The face is solid & smooth, there are no milling marks.

20201001_203610.jpg.27be8cce6b89b3d877d63eda141fbecb.jpg 

Sound & Feel (8 out of 10 points)

       The Fetch has a nice firm feel to it as the ball comes off the face.  It definitely meets my preference for a firmer hit over an insert style.  It has a heavier feel to it as you make the stroke.  I have added lead tape to other putters to get a similar feel this putter has out of the box.  For comparison I measured the overall weight and swingweight on a scale to other putters (vintage Anser, Spider, Teron, Seemore FGP).  The only one with a heavier swingweight was the Teron which has a good bit of lead tape on it.  The 20oz overall weight of the Fetch was the heaviest by at least 2 oz. over the lead taped Teron and by 4oz over the others.

       The sound off the face is a solid click on good hits, the videos posted below picked up some of the sound.  It has a noticeable higher pitch difference on toe / heel hits.  You get immediate sound feedback on a mishit in addition to a slightly different feel in your hands.

       The grip (PP59) is a pistol style that feels softer & slightly larger than other classic pistol grips I have used, though it is not as big as other midsize grips.  With the softer grip I was using a lighter grip pressure which I think helps me with distance control.

20201001_195923.jpg.b79766c8ad895cbe50c04be422952603.jpg 

Basic Characteristics (16 out of 20 points)

To prepare for the Heppler Fetch review, I marked out the straight putt spot for 5, 10, 15 & 20 footers on the backyard green.  I think these straight line putts can be used to see how repeatedly I align the putter and how consistent I am on distance control.  I have used it a lot doing putting drills in the backyard from the different distances as well as regular use on the course. 

 15 footers….

 

 

       The ball comes off the face with consistent speed.  The solid face works well for me.  I have issues getting that consistency with an insert putter since I probably mishit the ball just a little.  If you’ve seen pics of Tiger’s putter and the dime sized wear mark….well if I gamed the same putter long enough my wear marks apparently would NOT be dime sized! 

       I tried some heel and toe hits to see the effect and for my stroke, I had to get real far toward the toe or heel to see an obvious impact.  I suppose that is due to the weight of the Fetch.  There was more impact to distance than to the line on these mishits and the heel hit was more forgiving than the toe hit.  I did not see a difference on slight mishits toward the heel or toe.

       The putter is heavy enough that I feel I am able to get the back stroke started and let it swing itself through the ball.  With that type stroke I am less ‘handsy’ with it & don’t ‘pop’ it at impact to get distance on longer putts.  My stroke feels very stable and ‘on line’ going back compared to the lighter putters.  The out of the box heavier weight feeling good to me is consistent with my experimentation in the past and how I end up lead taping other putters.  I get the weight I need and I don’t have to ugly up the putter!!! 

       However, the weight was a negative for a few other players that also tried the putter.  Their preference is for a lighter putter (mostly blade users) and they immediately noticed the weight and didn’t like that feel. 

       Because of the stability of the stroke, I was very consistent with the direction of the putts. The line of the 5’ers were within the cup.  My tendency is to miss right and in early usage you could see it showing up on the longer putts, like about 2” on the 15’ers.  Because of this stroke consistency I was able to work on getting my head in the correct position for my vision to get the putt on line.  Once I moved so my eyes weren’t directly over the ball the line of the putts moved left toward the cup.  I had worked on this before but I think was too handsy & inconsistent with my stroke to get consistent results from any eye position changes.

 5 footers…

 

 

       The backyard green is very flat with only a few subtle breaks that have developed over the years.  They are not visible to ‘read’ you just have to know it’s there and play for the break from that angle of approach.  So I will reserve how it plays for me on breaking putts until the on course performance. 

       The adjustable length is really, really nice.  It came at 34” as requested (as well as 2* flat). 

 After experimenting with the length, extending it and shortening it, I settled on 33-3/4”.  Being able to do this immediately with a simple turn of the wrench is fantastic.  Hit some putts, adjust the length, hit more putts and decide on the feel and results of the putts- all within 30 seconds. 

 10’ers……

 

 

On-Course Performance (27 out of 30 points)

       Overall my consistency putting the intended line has improved with the Fetch due to the alignment lines as well as the heavier weight and me using a less ‘handsy’ stroke.  This lets me know if I missed a putt it was either a read or speed problem which I can then adjust as the round continues.  A recent round I was missing on the high side for the first few holes but had enough confidence in my line and stroke to know I wasn’t pushing or pulling putts.  I could adjust to play less break than I was reading and the ball started finding the hole. 

       One issue came up a couple times while putting from the back edge of the fringe or just off the fringe in the heavier grass.  If the grass was clumpy it sometimes seemed to catch the back edge of the hole when I tried it for those type shots.  Unlike a hybrid with the wider smooth sole, the hole design has an edge where the grass could catch the club on the way through the grass.  It didn’t happen all the time but I will probably continue to use the hybrid for those kind of shots.

       As I mentioned, the simple adjustable length is terrific.  For someone like myself that needs a shorter putter it’s really nice to not have to go through the grip removal / tube cutter  process.  Once I would do that to a putter if I’d ever want to sell it I’d have to add an extension to get it back to standard length for someone to be interested in buying it. 

       For the next generation it would be really nice to have a lie angle adjustment capability.  Some kind of a cam design on a hosel adapter like some drivers have to give 2 – 3 degrees of upright to flat adjustability. 

Miscellaneous (10 out of 10 points)

The headcover looks sharp and I like the magnetic clip rather than a velcro style. 

20201001_195809.jpg.74c17bdd34d4ac1b2a0d96fe843dda13.jpg

I thought the Fetch arrived very quickly after I was chosen to be a tester, arriving within 2 days of the first tester getting theirs. Since I had requested a 2* flat putter I thought it might be a longer delivery time for that adjustment.  They sent along a nice spec sheet with it.

20201001_161432.jpg.1082912805ebb5aee8e50dc03758f10e.jpg

I got more than a few comments from other players that liked the color scheme.  I could not see any blemishes in the finish upon a very close inspection of the head.

 

Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20 points)

The Fetch is staying in the bag as the gamer.  It has helped me on longer lag putts, I am getting the ball within 3’ consistently.  I am better getting putts on the intended line so it has also helped with shorter putts too.  I have a lot more confidence I will get the ball within tap in distance on 30+ footers.  I also have more confidence in my stroke on the shorter putts.

Conclusion

This putter test was a great exercise for me.  It made me take time to pay attention to different aspects of putting that I probably wouldn’t have otherwise.  Putter weight and lie angle, stroke and impact consistency are some of the things I needed to check more closely to keep my putting consistent at this point.  Taking video also helped me notice some things about my stroke I was able to work on like impact point consistency and stroke smoothness. 

Which putter works for different players is a very individual thing because feel plays such an important role for that club.  The set up and feel of the Fetch fit my eye right out of the box and the adjustable length got it dialed in for me.  If you prefer a heavier putter due to slower greens or your stroke style then this will fit your style of play.  The only negative I could come up with for the Fetch is, if you like a lighter putter this probably isn’t the feel for you.  I liked the solid face, which I prefer over insert style putters.  The mallet style is a recent change for me (I had been using a Seemore FGP recently) and I noticed the help the longer sight lines gave me getting the ball rolling along the intended line. 

Whichever putter you choose it should be noted that taking the time to do drills and practicing with it to get it dialed in with your stroke is a big help to improving your putting skill.  I saw an improvement in my putting which I feel began with the putter design fitting my eye & stroke and continued with doing more drills than normal for the testing & reporting aspect of this review.  I really appreciate the chance to test the Fetch and especially liked the improvement I saw in my putting!

Final Score: (90 out of 100 points)

 

Great job!  I was looking at this one and the prior model yesterday at Dicks.  I may have missed it however does it do a good job of picking up the ball out of the hole?

Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree
Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids 
Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 
Cleveland
CBX ZipCore  52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges

LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft  (Platinum @ 45/78)

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, ole gray said:

Great job!  I was looking at this one and the prior model yesterday at Dicks.  I may have missed it however does it do a good job of picking up the ball out of the hole?

Yes it does a fine job of getting the ball out of the hole without hitting the edge of the cup.

I am off to a good start to the year with the Fetch, line and distance control are much improved over last year.  It's both putter and practice related, not sure which % of each and I really don't care as long as the ball is finding the hole!

Modern Bag:  :ping-small: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex;   :titelist-small:  915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex;  Snake Eyes 18* 2h, 23* 4h & 27* 5h; :mizuno-small: JPX 900 Forged 6 - PW, PX LZ 6.0;  Edison 2.0 49*, 53*, 57* KBS Tour 120 S;   :ping-small:  Heppler Fetch;  Ball - :Snell: MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! 

Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder

Classic Bag:  Driver - :wilson_staff_small: Persimmon; 3w - :Hogan: Speed Slot; 5w - :wilson_staff_small: Tour Block; 3 - pw - :wilson_staff_small: Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson;  putter - bullseye standard or flange.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

14 hours ago, Shapotomous said:

Yes it does a fine job of getting the ball out of the hole without hitting the edge of the cup.

I am off to a good start to the year with the Fetch, line and distance control are much improved over last year.  It's both putter and practice related, not sure which % of each and I really don't care as long as the ball is finding the hole!

I would rather have it good at getting the ball in the hole! LOL

WIMB

Driver Callaway Epic 10.5' Fujikura Stiff

3W Callaway Epic 15' Fujikura Stiff

3-AW Srixon Z565 Nippon Stiff

52', 56' Cleveland RTX 585 Wedges

Putter Taylormade Rosa Daytona

Bags 2017 Callaway Org14 Cart bag or 2018 Srixon Z start Carry bag 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 9/25/2020 at 10:26 AM, Shapotomous said:

The Review 10/1/20 – 10/28/20

Ping Heppler Fetch – Official MGS Forum Review by Shapotomous

I was really happy to be chosen as a Heppler putter reviewer by MGS.  I have a collection of putters, mostly vintage Ping or Bullseye or TPM, but also a few newer Odyssey’s and the most recent gamer was a SeeMore FGP.  I was never fit for a putter but just rotate through whatever model fits my eye, feels good and is ‘hot’ in practice.  They all seem to work about the same, some with a stronger trend toward my usual push miss than others.  I also have a 12 x 24 putting green in the backyard that is great stress relief and gets a lot of play.  For me it was a better use of “splurge money” than a Harley or boat would have been.

 20200924_093835.jpg.e3ec0e5144e902727a7322c010d78c00.jpg

I started playing back in the early ‘70’s.  I was very lucky to work at a country club & for about 6 years I got to hit a ton of range balls, spend hours on the practice green, play evenings and get lots of instruction from the asst pros…..all for free!!  Best job there was for a golf nut!! 

 My handicap has always ranged from a 5 – 7.  When I was a young punk putting saved my scores as I took chances that were fun but generally were low percentage.  The handicap has stayed roughly the same through the years but the gradual shift in my game currently has putting as my weak point.   

First Impressions of the Ping Heppler Fetch!!

My right out of the box impression of the Fetch is the look is not ‘busy’ and being more used to playing blades, the head size is not too big.  I like the copper / black color scheme and the black shaft also looks good.  

 20201001_195832.jpg.9f44124bf6c7ac901caac102d437e6c7.jpg

It sits square to my eye and also to the grid pattern on the kitchen floor.  It feels heavier than most putters I use.  Some comparison data on that later. 

20201001_201320.jpg.2eee28a22e6f223e9788fde9440ef1ed.jpg

 

I am a gadget guy and tinkerer, so the adjustable length with an included small tool that fits in the end of the grip is really cool to me.  Simply turning the tool easily adjusts the length shorter or longer.  There are marks on the back side of the shaft to give you a reference on how far you are moving it.  There is also a vertical straight line reference mark on the shaft I suppose is there to help align a grip if you change it.

20201001_195329.jpg.adf3f988357cdb54ea65f234a94e9c4d.jpg 

The sight lines on the back of the Fetch look good to me.  One of my putting issues is alignment so I hoped these would help me get the ball rolling on the correct path.  The hole in the back to lift the ball is not distracting to me, my eye goes to the lines not the hole.  The hole works as intended “Fetch”ing the ball up easily either from the putting surface or in the hole since the Fetch is sized to fit in the hole. 

20201001_203629.jpg.40e41aa5bb5bbf1050b6e7dbc2d6eac1.jpg 

Grading Section
Looks (9 out of 10 points)

       I have always been a blade style player but recently began trying a few mallets.  I like this mallet size, shape and the sight lines on the back.  It is not too big to my eye, some of the mallets are so large as to look like garden tools rather than putters!  The color scheme you see when addressing the ball is not distracting and does not reflect the sun in an annoying way.  The black shaft adds to the color scheme nicely.  The putter sets up square and my hands feel like they are at a good spot.  The shaft bend at the hosel is graceful and not too angular.

       I don’t think it comes across as too flashy like some mallets.  The shape and color scheme are simpler to me when compared to a Teron or a Spider.  The face is solid & smooth, there are no milling marks.

20201001_203610.jpg.27be8cce6b89b3d877d63eda141fbecb.jpg 

Sound & Feel (8 out of 10 points)

       The Fetch has a nice firm feel to it as the ball comes off the face.  It definitely meets my preference for a firmer hit over an insert style.  It has a heavier feel to it as you make the stroke.  I have added lead tape to other putters to get a similar feel this putter has out of the box.  For comparison I measured the overall weight and swingweight on a scale to other putters (vintage Anser, Spider, Teron, Seemore FGP).  The only one with a heavier swingweight was the Teron which has a good bit of lead tape on it.  The 20oz overall weight of the Fetch was the heaviest by at least 2 oz. over the lead taped Teron and by 4oz over the others.

       The sound off the face is a solid click on good hits, the videos posted below picked up some of the sound.  It has a noticeable higher pitch difference on toe / heel hits.  You get immediate sound feedback on a mishit in addition to a slightly different feel in your hands.

       The grip (PP59) is a pistol style that feels softer & slightly larger than other classic pistol grips I have used, though it is not as big as other midsize grips.  With the softer grip I was using a lighter grip pressure which I think helps me with distance control.

20201001_195923.jpg.b79766c8ad895cbe50c04be422952603.jpg 

Basic Characteristics (16 out of 20 points)

To prepare for the Heppler Fetch review, I marked out the straight putt spot for 5, 10, 15 & 20 footers on the backyard green.  I think these straight line putts can be used to see how repeatedly I align the putter and how consistent I am on distance control.  I have used it a lot doing putting drills in the backyard from the different distances as well as regular use on the course. 

 15 footers….

 

 

       The ball comes off the face with consistent speed.  The solid face works well for me.  I have issues getting that consistency with an insert putter since I probably mishit the ball just a little.  If you’ve seen pics of Tiger’s putter and the dime sized wear mark….well if I gamed the same putter long enough my wear marks apparently would NOT be dime sized! 

       I tried some heel and toe hits to see the effect and for my stroke, I had to get real far toward the toe or heel to see an obvious impact.  I suppose that is due to the weight of the Fetch.  There was more impact to distance than to the line on these mishits and the heel hit was more forgiving than the toe hit.  I did not see a difference on slight mishits toward the heel or toe.

       The putter is heavy enough that I feel I am able to get the back stroke started and let it swing itself through the ball.  With that type stroke I am less ‘handsy’ with it & don’t ‘pop’ it at impact to get distance on longer putts.  My stroke feels very stable and ‘on line’ going back compared to the lighter putters.  The out of the box heavier weight feeling good to me is consistent with my experimentation in the past and how I end up lead taping other putters.  I get the weight I need and I don’t have to ugly up the putter!!! 

       However, the weight was a negative for a few other players that also tried the putter.  Their preference is for a lighter putter (mostly blade users) and they immediately noticed the weight and didn’t like that feel. 

       Because of the stability of the stroke, I was very consistent with the direction of the putts. The line of the 5’ers were within the cup.  My tendency is to miss right and in early usage you could see it showing up on the longer putts, like about 2” on the 15’ers.  Because of this stroke consistency I was able to work on getting my head in the correct position for my vision to get the putt on line.  Once I moved so my eyes weren’t directly over the ball the line of the putts moved left toward the cup.  I had worked on this before but I think was too handsy & inconsistent with my stroke to get consistent results from any eye position changes.

 5 footers…

 

 

       The backyard green is very flat with only a few subtle breaks that have developed over the years.  They are not visible to ‘read’ you just have to know it’s there and play for the break from that angle of approach.  So I will reserve how it plays for me on breaking putts until the on course performance. 

       The adjustable length is really, really nice.  It came at 34” as requested (as well as 2* flat). 

 After experimenting with the length, extending it and shortening it, I settled on 33-3/4”.  Being able to do this immediately with a simple turn of the wrench is fantastic.  Hit some putts, adjust the length, hit more putts and decide on the feel and results of the putts- all within 30 seconds. 

 10’ers……

 

 

On-Course Performance (27 out of 30 points)

       Overall my consistency putting the intended line has improved with the Fetch due to the alignment lines as well as the heavier weight and me using a less ‘handsy’ stroke.  This lets me know if I missed a putt it was either a read or speed problem which I can then adjust as the round continues.  A recent round I was missing on the high side for the first few holes but had enough confidence in my line and stroke to know I wasn’t pushing or pulling putts.  I could adjust to play less break than I was reading and the ball started finding the hole. 

       One issue came up a couple times while putting from the back edge of the fringe or just off the fringe in the heavier grass.  If the grass was clumpy it sometimes seemed to catch the back edge of the hole when I tried it for those type shots.  Unlike a hybrid with the wider smooth sole, the hole design has an edge where the grass could catch the club on the way through the grass.  It didn’t happen all the time but I will probably continue to use the hybrid for those kind of shots.

       As I mentioned, the simple adjustable length is terrific.  For someone like myself that needs a shorter putter it’s really nice to not have to go through the grip removal / tube cutter  process.  Once I would do that to a putter if I’d ever want to sell it I’d have to add an extension to get it back to standard length for someone to be interested in buying it. 

       For the next generation it would be really nice to have a lie angle adjustment capability.  Some kind of a cam design on a hosel adapter like some drivers have to give 2 – 3 degrees of upright to flat adjustability. 

Miscellaneous (10 out of 10 points)

The headcover looks sharp and I like the magnetic clip rather than a velcro style. 

20201001_195809.jpg.74c17bdd34d4ac1b2a0d96fe843dda13.jpg

I thought the Fetch arrived very quickly after I was chosen to be a tester, arriving within 2 days of the first tester getting theirs. Since I had requested a 2* flat putter I thought it might be a longer delivery time for that adjustment.  They sent along a nice spec sheet with it.

20201001_161432.jpg.1082912805ebb5aee8e50dc03758f10e.jpg

I got more than a few comments from other players that liked the color scheme.  I could not see any blemishes in the finish upon a very close inspection of the head.

 

Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20 points)

The Fetch is staying in the bag as the gamer.  It has helped me on longer lag putts, I am getting the ball within 3’ consistently.  I am better getting putts on the intended line so it has also helped with shorter putts too.  I have a lot more confidence I will get the ball within tap in distance on 30+ footers.  I also have more confidence in my stroke on the shorter putts.

Conclusion

This putter test was a great exercise for me.  It made me take time to pay attention to different aspects of putting that I probably wouldn’t have otherwise.  Putter weight and lie angle, stroke and impact consistency are some of the things I needed to check more closely to keep my putting consistent at this point.  Taking video also helped me notice some things about my stroke I was able to work on like impact point consistency and stroke smoothness. 

Which putter works for different players is a very individual thing because feel plays such an important role for that club.  The set up and feel of the Fetch fit my eye right out of the box and the adjustable length got it dialed in for me.  If you prefer a heavier putter due to slower greens or your stroke style then this will fit your style of play.  The only negative I could come up with for the Fetch is, if you like a lighter putter this probably isn’t the feel for you.  I liked the solid face, which I prefer over insert style putters.  The mallet style is a recent change for me (I had been using a Seemore FGP recently) and I noticed the help the longer sight lines gave me getting the ball rolling along the intended line. 

Whichever putter you choose it should be noted that taking the time to do drills and practicing with it to get it dialed in with your stroke is a big help to improving your putting skill.  I saw an improvement in my putting which I feel began with the putter design fitting my eye & stroke and continued with doing more drills than normal for the testing & reporting aspect of this review.  I really appreciate the chance to test the Fetch and especially liked the improvement I saw in my putting!

Final Score: (90 out of 100 points)

 

Great job!  I am strongly considering 2021 Fetch putter.   It's interesting about the hole catching grass on the off green putts.  A large majority of the seniors at my club are putting off the green when possible.  

Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree
Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids 
Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 
Cleveland
CBX ZipCore  52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges

LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft  (Platinum @ 45/78)

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

After my last post on the 26th April I decided to go back and update my putting stats as recorded via my Skycaddie and found them quite revealing.

image.png.10404ee87d9c20993fa6792a2e81ece2.png

I seemed to be having the worst results using the Floki while the Rossa Daytona on its one outing had done quite well so I switched again with rather good results, 3 rounds at 30 and under, rolling in some good putts from 12 to 15 feet, confidence on the rise, scoring dropping.  A scratch (circa) 72 in my matchplay, 79 in the medal with a horror quad at the 14th (bunker trouble), handicap cut down to 4.9. 

As I said on my last post I changed my setup slightly to get a more centred strike and it has helped that the greens are running better but for now the Floki is on the naughty step.

WIMB

Driver Callaway Epic 10.5' Fujikura Stiff

3W Callaway Epic 15' Fujikura Stiff

3-AW Srixon Z565 Nippon Stiff

52', 56' Cleveland RTX 585 Wedges

Putter Taylormade Rosa Daytona

Bags 2017 Callaway Org14 Cart bag or 2018 Srixon Z start Carry bag 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...

It is just over a year since I was given the opportunity to review the Ping Heppler Floki putter so I thought I would give an update. 

You would have thought at 60 I would know better and to realise that course conditions play a big part in putting.  Winter we play on soft slow greens that have very little break and we get gimmes from 3 feet and in. We start the season in April when the greens have had no growth for 4 months and expect them to roll smooth and predictable and we haven't had to hole a 3 footer for 6 months. This year up until  mid May the temperature didn't get above the mid 50s so very little growth, greens were bumpy and unpredictable. For me I blame myself and I chopped and changed my putters as we came in to the summer season, when I putt badly I'm always analysing my stroke, where I'm missing,  as I alluded to on the May 5th post I had switch back to a TM Rossa Daytona but it wasn't long until I fell out with it and switched back to the Floki. 

Now in July we have had a long dry spell of temps in mid 60-70s and the greens are excellent.  I've now settled back in with Floki and putting well with good pace control and averaging in the low 30s per round. My confidence is on the rise with holing out inside 3 feet being solid, 3-12 feet average 30-40% and holing 1 a round 15 to 20. 3 putts are a rarity.  Last weekend 27 putts is a season best.

The club pro said to me don't chop and change things, once you get the  confidence in the correct setup and you hit a bad putt ask yourself what did I not do rather than trying theoretical fixes that may makes things worse. 

I feel I have a pretty stable setup, i have missed a couple in the last few rounds with a slight push. I tend to use my right index finger as the guide for the putter and if I grip incorrectly this can cause me to push, just need to work on routine on this. 

It is still my Gamer at least for this week. 

WIMB

Driver Callaway Epic 10.5' Fujikura Stiff

3W Callaway Epic 15' Fujikura Stiff

3-AW Srixon Z565 Nippon Stiff

52', 56' Cleveland RTX 585 Wedges

Putter Taylormade Rosa Daytona

Bags 2017 Callaway Org14 Cart bag or 2018 Srixon Z start Carry bag 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 year later...

Just a follow up on my use of the Heppler Fetch after being chosen as a tester.  I am still using it and liking it quite a lot.  I may switch occasionally to a vintage Anser for a different feel and look but it has only been for a week or two and then I am back to the Heppler.  I am much more consistent with it hitting my line on shorter putts probably due to the more generous alignment lines than the Anser.

The only thing I have been struggling with in the early season league rounds is speed and I attribute this to a lack of practice and varying green speeds from hole to hole as the greens and my stroke still have some winter shagginess to them.  

Based on my putting stats I see no need to change out the Heppler for anything else.  I have had a couple 9 hole rounds with 13 - 15 putts, making a few 15 - 20 footers and being solid on 5'ers after a chip shot was less than good.

Modern Bag:  :ping-small: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex;   :titelist-small:  915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex;  Snake Eyes 18* 2h, 23* 4h & 27* 5h; :mizuno-small: JPX 900 Forged 6 - PW, PX LZ 6.0;  Edison 2.0 49*, 53*, 57* KBS Tour 120 S;   :ping-small:  Heppler Fetch;  Ball - :Snell: MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! 

Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder

Classic Bag:  Driver - :wilson_staff_small: Persimmon; 3w - :Hogan: Speed Slot; 5w - :wilson_staff_small: Tour Block; 3 - pw - :wilson_staff_small: Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson;  putter - bullseye standard or flange.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...