Ultimate Junior Golfer Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I just finished my first professional gapping session yesterday on Trackman with a temperature of 85*F and an elevation of 550'. I went to the course today and hit the ball extremely well, but I was 10-15 yards short all day of the yardages determined yesterday. The temperature today was 60*F so I expected 6-8 yards difference but not 10-15. Anyone else had a similar experience? 1 Quote G425 LST 9* (Mitsubishi Diamana PD 50X) STZ 15.5* (Graphite Design ADDI 7X) X-Forged Utility 18* (Project X IO 115, 6.5) ZX7 4-PW (Nippon Modus 120X) SM8 50* F Grind; 8* Bounce (Project X LZ 6.0 120) SM8 54* F Grind; 10* Bounce (Project X LZ 6.0 120) SM8 58* M Grind; 8* Bounce (Project X LZ 6.0 120) Stroke Lab Triple Track Ten S Putter TP5X "Practice like you've never won. Play like you've never lost." Link to comment
DaveP043 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, Ultimate Junior Golfer said: I just finished my first professional gapping session yesterday on Trackman with a temperature of 85*F and an elevation of 550'. I went to the course today and hit the ball extremely well, but I was 10-15 yards short all day of the yardages determined yesterday. The temperature today was 60*F so I expected 6-8 yards difference but not 10-15. Anyone else had a similar experience? Temperature can certainly have an effect. And the difference between hitting off a mat v. hitting off grass. Or the effect of grooving a swing repeatedly in a short time period, v. the longer time between shots on the actual golf course. Hopefully your gaps were consistent, even if the actual distance wasn't. 3 Quote Irons Titleist AP2 714, KBS Tour S, 3 flat Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X 52, 56, and 60 wedges B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment
Buffly Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, Ultimate Junior Golfer said: I just finished my first professional gapping session yesterday on Trackman with a temperature of 85*F and an elevation of 550'. I went to the course today and hit the ball extremely well, but I was 10-15 yards short all day of the yardages determined yesterday. The temperature today was 60*F so I expected 6-8 yards difference but not 10-15. Anyone else had a similar experience? Barometric pressure, humidity, and temperature all can affect carry yardages. Lower humidity, lower pressure, and higher temperatures all help carry because they all contribute to less molecules getting in the way of the ball. 3 Quote Golf is simple - people are complicated. 5w Taylormade SLDR S 19* - 220yd, Ping G2 5-U - 190-105, Maltby M+ 54* & MG 60* - 95-75, Evnroll ER8, Titleist 816 H1 4h 21*, Maltby 4 Hybrid Iron 24* - 210-200, Callaway XR16 8* - 235 carry Link to comment
ejgaudette Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 13 hours ago, Buffly said: Barometric pressure, humidity, and temperature all can affect carry yardages. Lower humidity, lower pressure, and higher temperatures all help carry because they all contribute to less molecules getting in the way of the ball. Just listen to Bryson try and figure out a yardage on the course and he will mention all of the above and more. He makes it seem like a calculus problem. 1 Quote Epic Max LS 9° Ventus Blue 6X (2021 Official Review) Epic Speed 15° Smoke iM10 60g 6.0 | Epic Speed 18° Evenflow Riptide 70g 6.0 816 H1 21° Diamana S+ Blue 70 S | JPX 919 HM Pro 5-PW Pro Tour Spec 115i S Glide 4.0 50°.12°S/54°.14°W/58°.6°T PING Z-Z115 Wedge Flex | SOFT 11S Super Stroke Mid-Slim 2.0 Hoofer Bag | Pro V1 | Right Handed | Tracked by V3 Link to comment
Johndrussell727 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 The ball is harder...well doesn't compress as well in cool temps. Even Phil uses a Callaway Supersoft on colder days. Quote John Russell Irons: stiff shaft, standard loft/lie Nike VRS Covert 2 4-pw Driver: 10 deg, stiff shaft Ping G400 3/5 woods: Adam's Tight Lies 2 with stiff shafts. Putter: Scotty Cameron Special Select Newport 2 33inch Wedges: Cleveland CBX 56deg, and Cleveland 588RTX 60deg. Ball: I'm loving the Titleist DT TruSoft. It seems to be stopping on the greens well, and feels soft and pure on even a decent strike. Link to comment
Kenny B Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I always play an extra club for every two extra layers of clothing. Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment
tony@CIC Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Barometric pressure, humidity, and temperature all can affect carry yardages. Lower humidity, lower pressure, and higher temperatures all help carry because they all contribute to less molecules getting in the way of the ball. Also factor in wind. As a former sailor I can tell you that many times the wind at the top of the mast was different in both velocity and direction. That's why sailors have their wind speed/direction indicators at the top of the mast. Most of us launch a ball a lot higher than a typical sailboat mast. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment
PMookie Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Here’s your answer: 1-2 yards of distance difference for every 10* of temperature change 1 Quote Driver: Honma TR 460 8.5*, Aldila RIP Alpha 80 S, 45 1/4"; Ping G425 LST, Fujikura Speeder TR 661 S, 45 1/2" hybrids: Cobra King Tec 17* and 21*, both with Graphite Design Tour AD-DI 105 X Irons: Srixon ZX5 4-6, ZX7 7-PW, UST Mamiya Recoil F4, +1” Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 All but putter have Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Calibrate midsize built to oversize +1 Link to comment
DubiousPro Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 There are several videos out there that try to discuss this, but I felt this guy did a fairly thorough job. It's the challenge of the equipment's reaction to the temperature which other videos may test better than this one. But the biggest factor to consider. When you are playing in the winter with 30 layers on and can't feel your hands, air density and compression rates are the least of your distance woes. And conversely when you could get out in the sauna the air is thinner and your arms, back, and legs turn into rubber which magically translates into gorilla power. Quote It's 90% Mental Link to comment
DJ Mico Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I was wondering the same thing. In the summer months in California's central valley where it's a dry heat in the high 90s and even touching triple digits, I was carrying my 54º wedge about 115 yards and averaging about 280 yards total distance with my driver. I played a round the other day where I started at 7AM, and temperature at the start of the round was 58ºF, humid, and the ground was very dewy. My drives were maxing at about 255 and I was about one club/15 yards shorter than my summer distances all morning. I was not sure if it was just the temperature, just the humidity, or if the ball being wet after rolling in the dew-soaked fairways was causing a distance loss. Glad to learn from this post I could blame things besides myself for once on the course. 1 Quote Driver: TSR3 9° (Fujikura Ventus TR Red 6X) Woods: (3W) TSi2 15° (Fujikura Ventus Blue TR 7S); (7W) Rogue ST Max 21° (Fujikura Ventus Blue 7S) 4 Hybrid: SIM2 Rescue 22° (Fujikura Ventus Blue HY 80S) 5i-6i: P770 (Nippon Modus3 105 S) 7i-PW: CB-301 (Nippon Modus3 105 S) Wedges: Glide 4.0 50 S & 54 S (Nippon Modus3 105 S); Glide Forged Eye2 59 (Nippon Ping Z-Z115) Putter: Toulon Design Las Vegas H7 (BGT Stability Tour 2 Polar) All Clubs Equipped with Link to comment
DiscipleofPenick Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I just had this post and did the research citing articles from golf publications. The short answer someone here already gave- 2 years less per 10 degrees Fahrenheit.So if you play Pro V1, which is a 90 compression ball as tested by MGS. If you hit the ball 150 yards at 90 degrees, you'll only hit it 140 at 50 degrees. I posed the question about switching to a softer, lower compression ball in the cool weather, but based on the data it seems like one is only giving up a club of distance, give or take another 1/2, depending on skill and other weather conditions. Take Dead Aim 2 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: Titleist 714CB 4-PW Wedges: Vokey SM5 & SM6 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment
Buffly Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 On 10/15/2020 at 11:27 PM, DJ Mico said: Glad to learn from this post I could blame things besides myself for once on the course. Well, now you know that temp and humidity and pressure effect distance you can't blame those things anymore. Hehe 1 1 Quote Golf is simple - people are complicated. 5w Taylormade SLDR S 19* - 220yd, Ping G2 5-U - 190-105, Maltby M+ 54* & MG 60* - 95-75, Evnroll ER8, Titleist 816 H1 4h 21*, Maltby 4 Hybrid Iron 24* - 210-200, Callaway XR16 8* - 235 carry Link to comment
Malaka Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 It sure seems like par 5's get reaaal long when is 45 or 50 degrees 2 Quote WITB Driver: Z785 , Hazardous 6.0 (Normal) 3 Wood: F85 @ 13.5* Hazardous Red 6.0 (Stiff) Driving Iron/Utility: ZU85 2iron @ 18* Irons: 5-PW, 588CB w/ TT S300's (Stiff) Wedge: RTX4 Satin, 50*/Mid, 56*/Mid and 60*/Low Putter: Portofino Bag: Stand Bag Link to comment
Alf. S Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I've never measured it but in winter where I regularly play in 40 -50 F I definitely feel I struggle with getting the carry that I expect in the summer which in Scotland is probably mid 50s to mid 70s. Saturday hitting 3w in 50 F, normally carry 210, with wind behind 215 or more and I embedded the shot on the full in the ditch at 205. The Pro also told me once that clothing in the winter can take 5 mph off your swing speed. So I guess we have to live with it. 3 Quote WIMB Driver Callaway Epic 10.5' Fujikura Stiff 3W Callaway Epic 15' Fujikura Stiff 3-AW Srixon Z565 Nippon Stiff 52', 56' Cleveland RTX 585 Wedges Putter Taylormade Rosa Daytona Bags 2017 Callaway Org14 Cart bag or 2018 Srixon Z start Carry bag Link to comment
Kenny B Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 It's pretty much a wash for me. Yes, the ball carries less when it gets cold, but our course has stopped irrigating and the fairways are firming up. Less carry but much more roll, so all in all... about the same distance. What gets tricky is that when the ground gets harder, the approach shots must land shorter. When it gets cold, I always aim for Front of green distance for any Middle and Back pin and short of green for a Front pin. 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment
golfish! Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 10 hours ago, Buffly said: Well, now you know that temp and humidity and pressure effect distance you can't blame those things anymore. Hehe Don't forget that individual balls can affect distances as well. Maybe the Trackman was off too. Quote Driver : SIM2 Max 9* MC Kuro Kago Silver 60 Stiff Woods : GS53 3 Wood 14* Mitsubish Tensei Blue 73g Regular Hybrids: 949X Project X HZRDUS RDX Black Irons : 699 Pro Black 5-AW 1* flat KBS Tour V 90 Stiff Shafts Wedges : 52, 56, 60 Putter : Spider Red Bag : lightweight cart bag | Dry Series Bag Ball : TP5 PIX (2019) | ProV1x (2021) Rangefinder : ULT-X Pushcart : M5 GPS DHC Electric Push Cart SoCal, USA Right handed HDCP 16.4 Link to comment
GBWarPig Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Little bit anecdotal evidence here, but played a full round on Sunday in 35-37F temperatures with Snell MTB-X, so a firm to x-firm ball in normal conditions. Off the tee, I felt like I lost a few yards (<10), but would definitely attribute it to playing in bulkier gear. I wasn't able to generate the normal speed in my driver with the layers as rotating through was more difficult. Irons/wedges, no yardage difference whatsoever - if I struck it well with the swing length in mind, it was going the number I expected. What I did notice is less spin on approach shots, which I'm actually going to guess was more from weather impacts on the greens from the overnight snow and cold temps, rather than on the ball. Quote Driver: Mavrik Sub Zero,10°, Aldila Rogue Silver 70X 3W: Mavrik Sub Zero, 15°, Aldila Rogue Silver 70X 3H: Mavrik Sub Zero, 18°, KBS Tour Hybrid 75S 4i-PW: Mavrik Pro, +1°, True Temper Elevate Tour S, Standard Lie Wedges: SM8 - 50°/12F, 54°/14F, 58°/14K Putter: Special Select Squareback 2, 35" Ball: MTB-X Link to comment
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