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Unofficial Review: L.A.B. Golf Directed Force 2.1 Putter


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Hello All,

I bought one of these when Peter Finch switched to the LAB putter.  I had seen them online but had never given them a second thought until I watched his review.  So I found one on line and put it in the bag.  Notice, I did not get fit for this and it is the standard set up for loft and lie.  After I bought the putter, I found this forum and began to read.  Here is what I have noticed.  I do not struggle with getting the ball to the hole.  I feel more confident with 3- 6 foot putts, and long putts actually have a chance now.  And my alignment is significantly better.  My initial putting with this putter was not great but, I'm committed to it.  My last outing was nine holes.  I short sided myself and was left with about a 25 foot putt back up the hill.  I made that putt and that's when the magic started to happen.  For that round I had 5 one putts and 4 two putts.  This is awesome for me.  I average 32 putts a round.  Normally I don't switch putter, but this year I went through 4 putters.  My old three ball is illegal and now that I'm playing in a league, I have retired it.  

The one thing I can say as I have read this forum is that most people are talking about the putter.  But let's not forget about the basics.  Alignment, starting point and reading the green.  I have realized from this forum and the putter, that I need to take my time and read the greens better.  This has made all the world of difference(putter probably has something to do with it too  LOL).  No matter how much you practice, if you aren't reading the greens correctly for your pace of putting, then you wont make putts.  

 

 

 

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Hybrid :Ping 2 Hybrid

Irons: Mizuno JPX-900

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Putter: Direct Force LAB

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Definitely the ugliest putters around, but I have seen so many reviews on these and how good they are I am intrigued.  There is no way I would be able to find one close by so I will be following closely as well.  What made you try that model as opposed to their other model?

   Driver:  :callaway-small: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g

3 Wood:  :titelist-small: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff

5 Wood : :callaway-small: Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff

4 Hybrid: image.png.cf6ab25979c6727ff31e6cc6f719636c.png TSi3 Hzdrs Smoke X flex

     Irons:  :callaway-small: 5-7  Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X

                         9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X

Wedges:  :callaway-small: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex

    Putter: :titelist-small: Scotty Cameron Phantom 5.5 34"

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12 hours ago, ballplayer002003 said:

Definitely the ugliest putters around, but I have seen so many reviews on these and how good they are I am intrigued.  There is no way I would be able to find one close by so I will be following closely as well.  What made you try that model as opposed to their other model?

Coming from a Spider Tour Red and then Spider X, I preferred the looks of the mallet/original model. I didn't roll the blade, but I've read they feel slightly different. It would be interesting now to try the other model to see what differences there are between the two.

Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024)

Driver: callaway_logo.png.3dd18aa65544000dd0ea3901697a8261.png Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post
3 Wood: 
cobra_logo.png.190908c8b4518eec87c087429e4343ee.png Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X
20° Hybrid: PXG_Logo.png.8401024d1fb8aec46f0e790c1aa5b80c.png PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X
4 Utility: 
cobra_logo.png.190908c8b4518eec87c087429e4343ee.png Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff
5-PW:
logo-Ben-Hogan-large.png.98d743ae5487285c6406a1e30a0a63b5.png Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting
50°, 54°, 58°:
231036130_Edel_Golf_Logo_v2_grandecopy.png.13cc76b963f8dd59f06d04b1e8df2827.png Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread
Putter:
image.png.49fcc172a1ed0010d930fbe1c5dc8b79.png L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review
Grips: 
stargrip.png.4285948f41f1409613266e7803f0bbaa.png Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up
Ball: :Snell:Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow

Tracked By: shotscope.png.4a7089f2bddff325285b1266a61dda03.png  Shot Scope H4
Bag: :1590477705_SunMountain: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync
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55 minutes ago, edingc said:

Coming from a Spider Tour Red and then Spider X, I preferred the looks of the mallet/original model. I didn't roll the blade, but I've read they feel slightly different. It would be interesting now to try the other model to see what differences there are between the two.

There is a used blade one for sale near me, it looks like a block of steel on a stick.  I can see how the design of the 2.1 is supposed to help with controlling torque but the blade I can't see it.  I think I would also opt for the 2.1 design as well.  It will be interesting to follow along through the summer to see if you think the putter helped you or just your overall practice helped you more. 

   Driver:  :callaway-small: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g

3 Wood:  :titelist-small: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff

5 Wood : :callaway-small: Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff

4 Hybrid: image.png.cf6ab25979c6727ff31e6cc6f719636c.png TSi3 Hzdrs Smoke X flex

     Irons:  :callaway-small: 5-7  Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X

                         9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X

Wedges:  :callaway-small: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex

    Putter: :titelist-small: Scotty Cameron Phantom 5.5 34"

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16 minutes ago, ballplayer002003 said:

It will be interesting to follow along through the summer to see if you think the putter helped you or just your overall practice helped you more. 

That's going to be the big question in my mind as well. However, I can say with certainty that going to a longer shaft has taken some of the pressure off my back and so more practice is possible. I'm hoping that the L.A.B. in combination with the EXPUTT this winter will have my season started off on the right foot come spring.

Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024)

Driver: callaway_logo.png.3dd18aa65544000dd0ea3901697a8261.png Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post
3 Wood: 
cobra_logo.png.190908c8b4518eec87c087429e4343ee.png Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X
20° Hybrid: PXG_Logo.png.8401024d1fb8aec46f0e790c1aa5b80c.png PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X
4 Utility: 
cobra_logo.png.190908c8b4518eec87c087429e4343ee.png Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff
5-PW:
logo-Ben-Hogan-large.png.98d743ae5487285c6406a1e30a0a63b5.png Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting
50°, 54°, 58°:
231036130_Edel_Golf_Logo_v2_grandecopy.png.13cc76b963f8dd59f06d04b1e8df2827.png Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread
Putter:
image.png.49fcc172a1ed0010d930fbe1c5dc8b79.png L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review
Grips: 
stargrip.png.4285948f41f1409613266e7803f0bbaa.png Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up
Ball: :Snell:Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow

Tracked By: shotscope.png.4a7089f2bddff325285b1266a61dda03.png  Shot Scope H4
Bag: :1590477705_SunMountain: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync
Riding On: 
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3 hours ago, edingc said:

That's going to be the big question in my mind as well. However, I can say with certainty that going to a longer shaft has taken some of the pressure off my back and so more practice is possible. I'm hoping that the L.A.B. in combination with the EXPUTT this winter will have my season started off on the right foot come spring.

With a longer shaft, and you being more upright, do you still have your eyes over the ball or are they more inside now?  How has that changed in your setup?

   Driver:  :callaway-small: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g

3 Wood:  :titelist-small: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff

5 Wood : :callaway-small: Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff

4 Hybrid: image.png.cf6ab25979c6727ff31e6cc6f719636c.png TSi3 Hzdrs Smoke X flex

     Irons:  :callaway-small: 5-7  Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X

                         9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X

Wedges:  :callaway-small: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex

    Putter: :titelist-small: Scotty Cameron Phantom 5.5 34"

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1 hour ago, ballplayer002003 said:

With a longer shaft, and you being more upright, do you still have your eyes over the ball or are they more inside now?  How has that changed in your setup?

My eyes are now 1-2" inside the ball. I line my balls and use those lines to aim, so not being directly over the ball isn't a big deal to me.

Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024)

Driver: callaway_logo.png.3dd18aa65544000dd0ea3901697a8261.png Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post
3 Wood: 
cobra_logo.png.190908c8b4518eec87c087429e4343ee.png Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X
20° Hybrid: PXG_Logo.png.8401024d1fb8aec46f0e790c1aa5b80c.png PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X
4 Utility: 
cobra_logo.png.190908c8b4518eec87c087429e4343ee.png Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff
5-PW:
logo-Ben-Hogan-large.png.98d743ae5487285c6406a1e30a0a63b5.png Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting
50°, 54°, 58°:
231036130_Edel_Golf_Logo_v2_grandecopy.png.13cc76b963f8dd59f06d04b1e8df2827.png Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread
Putter:
image.png.49fcc172a1ed0010d930fbe1c5dc8b79.png L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review
Grips: 
stargrip.png.4285948f41f1409613266e7803f0bbaa.png Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up
Ball: :Snell:Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow

Tracked By: shotscope.png.4a7089f2bddff325285b1266a61dda03.png  Shot Scope H4
Bag: :1590477705_SunMountain: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync
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15 hours ago, ballplayer002003 said:

With a longer shaft, and you being more upright, do you still have your eyes over the ball or are they more inside now?  How has that changed in your setup?

I know you asked @edingc but I'll chime in as well with my experiences. From my video fitting, Matt saw that my eyes were actually outside of the line. He wanted me to be inside the line, and I wanted to stand up straighter because my back was getting sore when practicing, so the longer shaft worked for both of those.

I had 14 putts today during my weekly 9-hole round, with one 3-putt on the first hole from barely on the green. Bad leave, bad read on the 2nd putt, etc etc. Whatever, I made up for it later. I like how point-and-shoot this putter feels for me, and I've stopped trying to use the line on the ball to line my putts up. Seems to be working decently.

Driver: :callaway-small: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S

3w/5w: :titelist-small: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S

4h: :mizuno-small: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S

Irons 5-PW: :mizuno-small: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S

Wedges: :cleveland-small: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105

Putter: LAB Link.1

Ball: :srixon-small: Z-Star Diamond

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3 hours ago, yungkory said:

I know you asked @edingc but I'll chime in as well with my experiences. From my video fitting, Matt saw that my eyes were actually outside of the line. He wanted me to be inside the line, and I wanted to stand up straighter because my back was getting sore when practicing, so the longer shaft worked for both of those.

I had 14 putts today during my weekly 9-hole round, with one 3-putt on the first hole from barely on the green. Bad leave, bad read on the 2nd putt, etc etc. Whatever, I made up for it later. I like how point-and-shoot this putter feels for me, and I've stopped trying to use the line on the ball to line my putts up. Seems to be working decently.

Sounds like the L.A.B. been working well for you, then? 

Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024)

Driver: callaway_logo.png.3dd18aa65544000dd0ea3901697a8261.png Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post
3 Wood: 
cobra_logo.png.190908c8b4518eec87c087429e4343ee.png Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X
20° Hybrid: PXG_Logo.png.8401024d1fb8aec46f0e790c1aa5b80c.png PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X
4 Utility: 
cobra_logo.png.190908c8b4518eec87c087429e4343ee.png Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff
5-PW:
logo-Ben-Hogan-large.png.98d743ae5487285c6406a1e30a0a63b5.png Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting
50°, 54°, 58°:
231036130_Edel_Golf_Logo_v2_grandecopy.png.13cc76b963f8dd59f06d04b1e8df2827.png Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread
Putter:
image.png.49fcc172a1ed0010d930fbe1c5dc8b79.png L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review
Grips: 
stargrip.png.4285948f41f1409613266e7803f0bbaa.png Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up
Ball: :Snell:Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow

Tracked By: shotscope.png.4a7089f2bddff325285b1266a61dda03.png  Shot Scope H4
Bag: :1590477705_SunMountain: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync
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5 hours ago, yungkory said:

I know you asked @edingc but I'll chime in as well with my experiences. From my video fitting, Matt saw that my eyes were actually outside of the line. He wanted me to be inside the line, and I wanted to stand up straighter because my back was getting sore when practicing, so the longer shaft worked for both of those.

I had 14 putts today during my weekly 9-hole round, with one 3-putt on the first hole from barely on the green. Bad leave, bad read on the 2nd putt, etc etc. Whatever, I made up for it later. I like how point-and-shoot this putter feels for me, and I've stopped trying to use the line on the ball to line my putts up. Seems to be working decently.

What length putter were you using before this?  I would like to stand up a bit more as well, but didn't know how that would throw off my sight line.  I currently use a 34" putter.

   Driver:  :callaway-small: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g

3 Wood:  :titelist-small: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff

5 Wood : :callaway-small: Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff

4 Hybrid: image.png.cf6ab25979c6727ff31e6cc6f719636c.png TSi3 Hzdrs Smoke X flex

     Irons:  :callaway-small: 5-7  Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X

                         9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X

Wedges:  :callaway-small: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex

    Putter: :titelist-small: Scotty Cameron Phantom 5.5 34"

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8 hours ago, edingc said:

Sounds like the L.A.B. been working well for you, then? 

I feel like my aim has improved, but I'm still working on distance control. It's probably strike-related. It really does feel hard to not hit the ball on the intended line though, so I like that part a lot. 5/9 1-putts yesterday, I can't really complain about that.

6 hours ago, ballplayer002003 said:

What length putter were you using before this?  I would like to stand up a bit more as well, but didn't know how that would throw off my sight line.  I currently use a 34" putter.

I have used anywhere from 33-35" in the past. Most-recently, my ER5 measured 33.5" from the sole of the putter, to the tip of the grip, but it was 33" according to Evnroll. I guess there's no industry standard for measuring putter length, so a 34" in one brand could differ from another one. The DF 2.1 measures 34.5" from the same points -- so an extra inch. I wanted to go up to 34" but Matt said that he would rather have players choke down than not have enough length. I'm not tall, 5'9" and I am all legs (short torso) so I don't know if that plays a part in why a longer putter seems to "fit" me and my stance?

It's probably worthwhile for you to just submit a video to them, even if it's just some "free" analysis for you. I had no idea my eyes were over the ball, and what "feels" very inside of the line, is basically right on it when I do the ball-drop test. Eyes/brains are tricky.

Driver: :callaway-small: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S

3w/5w: :titelist-small: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S

4h: :mizuno-small: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S

Irons 5-PW: :mizuno-small: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S

Wedges: :cleveland-small: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105

Putter: LAB Link.1

Ball: :srixon-small: Z-Star Diamond

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My last 4 rounds with the putter in order of most recent to oldest at the bottom:

  • 28 putts (18 holes, 0-putt on 17 #ace) shot a 4-over 75
  • 15 putts (9 holes) 1-over 38
  • 15 putts (9 holes) 4-over 41
  • 17 putts (9 holes, 1 really bad 3-putt) 1-under 36

Previous 4 rounds with old putter:

  • 17 putts (9 holes) 7-over 44
  • 16 putts (9 holes) 2-over 39
  • 17 putts (9 holes) 1-over 38
  • 18 putts (9 holes) 7-over 44

It's hard to determine whether or not the putter is helping me shoot better scores, but I am noticing a down-tick in total putts per round. I wasn't really tracking proximity to hole before I bagged the DF 2.1, I'm still not doing it in any type of scientific way, but I can assure you it isn't magically better to the point where these are all suddenly tap-ins.

Like I had mentioned previously, if it helps me sink more putts that I deem as "make-able" then I would be happy, and so far in this honeymoon period, that is true. Before I get another comment about how you should think you can make every putt, in 2019 Wyndham Clark was #1 from 5-10' with a 67% success rate. So let's all help me manage expectations, yeah?

 

Driver: :callaway-small: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S

3w/5w: :titelist-small: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S

4h: :mizuno-small: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S

Irons 5-PW: :mizuno-small: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S

Wedges: :cleveland-small: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105

Putter: LAB Link.1

Ball: :srixon-small: Z-Star Diamond

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  • 2 weeks later...

We're still at least eight weeks away from playing golf again here in the frozen tundra, but I've been diligently practicing with my L.A.B. and the EXPUTT. I went through a few weeks of having a lot of start line issues, but determined I was playing the ball too far forward in my stance. Keeping the white line that runs down the middle of the Press II grip pointed at my belly button seems to have straightened that out. I had a really good session last night from 0-30 feet:

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I was looking back through my Arccos data from last season and you can see a pretty strong dip in my putting handicap after I acquired the DF 2.1:

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Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024)

Driver: callaway_logo.png.3dd18aa65544000dd0ea3901697a8261.png Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post
3 Wood: 
cobra_logo.png.190908c8b4518eec87c087429e4343ee.png Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X
20° Hybrid: PXG_Logo.png.8401024d1fb8aec46f0e790c1aa5b80c.png PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X
4 Utility: 
cobra_logo.png.190908c8b4518eec87c087429e4343ee.png Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff
5-PW:
logo-Ben-Hogan-large.png.98d743ae5487285c6406a1e30a0a63b5.png Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting
50°, 54°, 58°:
231036130_Edel_Golf_Logo_v2_grandecopy.png.13cc76b963f8dd59f06d04b1e8df2827.png Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread
Putter:
image.png.49fcc172a1ed0010d930fbe1c5dc8b79.png L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review
Grips: 
stargrip.png.4285948f41f1409613266e7803f0bbaa.png Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up
Ball: :Snell:Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow

Tracked By: shotscope.png.4a7089f2bddff325285b1266a61dda03.png  Shot Scope H4
Bag: :1590477705_SunMountain: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync
Riding On: 
image.png.1db52ce91db040317a9ac580f1df8de8.pngBag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread

WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver

 

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Love seeing the numbers to back up your performance! 

In my Vessel-removebg-preview.png.afd31301c874ee24a33a6c5f06f4ab98.png Lux XV Cart Bag:
Driver: image.png.0d0a9c800176ad44335fd0a7facba020.png RADSPEED XB PTC 10.5° Fujikura Speeder Evolution 661 VII Stiff
Utility: callaway-golf-vector-logo-removebg-preview.png.1467fda9195e29c96aa5066f048e91b9.png Apex UW 17° and 19° Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 70 6.0
4 Hybrid: image.png.0d0a9c800176ad44335fd0a7facba020.png KING LTDx 21° KBS PGI 85 Stiff
Irons: image.png.66179558e8e55b8b35b741c037395846.png ZX5/ZX7 Project X LZ 6.0
Wedges: image.png.620c54f7108fefbf49a94ba169f19081.png 2.0 49°, 53°, 57° Project X LZ 6.0
Putter:  logo-horizontal-black.svg LINK.1 34"
Ball: MaxFli.png.395dd0dca3a12529f636728b3e66a134.png Tour (Thanks MGS for allowing me to test these!)

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Just sent in a vid for remote fitting.  They also have a registered fitter near me which I would go in person if I decide to take the plunge.  Have not been able to try it before since no one has had a left handed putter in stock to try.  

I feel like I am a fairly good putter currently, but do not make as many as I should inside of 10 feet.  Also 3-5 feet, I'm not as confident as I should be in my opinion.  Likely, I will try a putting lesson before I go with something different.

Driver:  image.png.3c6db1120d888f669e07d4a8f890b3f1.pngMavrik Sub Zero 9* (Set to 10) Ventus Blue 6X

2 Hybrid: :titelist-small: TSI3 Hybrid Tensei Blue 80 X (17.25*)

3 Hybrid :titelist-small: 818 H2 Hybrid Hzrdus RDX Black 6.5 (20.5*)

4 Iron -  :titelist-small: T200 4 Iron Graphite Design Tour AD IZ X Hybrid Shaft

Irons 5-PW:  :titelist-small: T100-S 5 - GW KBS Tour 130 X

Gap/Sand Wedge:  :titelist-small: Vokey SM6 49*  SM8 54* 

Lob Wedge:  image.png.3c6db1120d888f669e07d4a8f890b3f1.pngJaws 5 Wedge 58* DG Tour Issue Stiff

Putter:   :scotty-small: Phantom 5.5 34"      Pro Platinum Newport 2 35"      Taylormade Tour Black Spider 34"

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I am loving mi line so far.  Only played 2 rounds with it but at least 10 different practice sessions with it.  I was almost scared to take it with me during a round at first but that is fine now and will be my gamer for the year.   The confidence on short putts is crazy good right now.  When I first got it it was my biggest gripe as I pulled so many 4 and 5 footers, but once I dialed in the ball position in my stance, it’s now so confidence inspiring from short range.  Even 10 footers feel like I “should” make them and leave me feeling disappointed I didn’t, instead of “just get it close for the next one” kind of feeling.  
 

loving it so far.   Still early and in full honeymoon phase for sure.  I struggled with where to place my thumbs for a bit bc the “thumbs off” idea didn’t work for me.  But feel like I have a grip I can use now.  

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Callaway Epic SZ 9.5°, Hzrdus Smoke black 

Ping Glide 3.0 50,54,60 

PXG hybrid 0317 Gen 1, Tensi CK Blue

Cobra F9 14.5° 3 wood, Atmos Blue 

 

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On 3/8/2021 at 5:13 AM, Hollis said:

I am loving mi line so far.  Only played 2 rounds with it but at least 10 different practice sessions with it.  I was almost scared to take it with me during a round at first but that is fine now and will be my gamer for the year.   The confidence on short putts is crazy good right now.  When I first got it it was my biggest gripe as I pulled so many 4 and 5 footers, but once I dialed in the ball position in my stance, it’s now so confidence inspiring from short range.  Even 10 footers feel like I “should” make them and leave me feeling disappointed I didn’t, instead of “just get it close for the next one” kind of feeling.  
 

loving it so far.   Still early and in full honeymoon phase for sure.  I struggled with where to place my thumbs for a bit bc the “thumbs off” idea didn’t work for me.  But feel like I have a grip I can use now.  

Pretty much my exact experience as well!

Driver: :callaway-small: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S

3w/5w: :titelist-small: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S

4h: :mizuno-small: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S

Irons 5-PW: :mizuno-small: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S

Wedges: :cleveland-small: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105

Putter: LAB Link.1

Ball: :srixon-small: Z-Star Diamond

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Played my first "real" round of golf since last November today and the L.A.B. picked up right where it left off:

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I had 28 putts today. It was a good short game day all around and I only hit five greens, so the total number of putts should be low. However, I had seven one-putts, which is outrageous for me regardless of my short game. I had three legitimate birdie putts, and I just missed each of them, including lipping out my 18-foot birdie attempt on 18.

My distance control was superb, and that's been the biggest change since acquiring the L.A.B. I had one awful mishit from 50 feet that led to a three-putt, but altogether it was a very successful distance control day.

I shot an 83 and the L.A.B. was a big reason for that, rescuing pars from outside of 15 feet twice, and saving a bogey on an awfully-played hole with a 20-foot "chip" from the fringe.

I mentioned this in my review, but I'll say it again: No other piece of equipment has made such a drastic impact on my game in a short time period as the L.A.B. It has completely transformed my putting.

 

Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024)

Driver: callaway_logo.png.3dd18aa65544000dd0ea3901697a8261.png Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post
3 Wood: 
cobra_logo.png.190908c8b4518eec87c087429e4343ee.png Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X
20° Hybrid: PXG_Logo.png.8401024d1fb8aec46f0e790c1aa5b80c.png PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X
4 Utility: 
cobra_logo.png.190908c8b4518eec87c087429e4343ee.png Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff
5-PW:
logo-Ben-Hogan-large.png.98d743ae5487285c6406a1e30a0a63b5.png Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting
50°, 54°, 58°:
231036130_Edel_Golf_Logo_v2_grandecopy.png.13cc76b963f8dd59f06d04b1e8df2827.png Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread
Putter:
image.png.49fcc172a1ed0010d930fbe1c5dc8b79.png L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review
Grips: 
stargrip.png.4285948f41f1409613266e7803f0bbaa.png Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up
Ball: :Snell:Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow

Tracked By: shotscope.png.4a7089f2bddff325285b1266a61dda03.png  Shot Scope H4
Bag: :1590477705_SunMountain: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync
Riding On: 
image.png.1db52ce91db040317a9ac580f1df8de8.pngBag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread

WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver

 

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Played my first "real" round of golf since last November today and the L.A.B. picked up right where it left off:
image.png.1fa9413b70afc361769629c26bf899cc.png
I had 28 putts today. It was a good short game day all around and I only hit five greens, so the total number of putts should be low. However, I had seven one-putts, which is outrageous for me regardless of my short game. I had three legitimate birdie putts, and I just missed each of them, including lipping out my 18-foot birdie attempt on 18.
My distance control was superb, and that's been the biggest change since acquiring the L.A.B. I had one awful mishit from 50 feet that led to a three-putt, but altogether it was a very successful distance control day.
I shot an 83 and the L.A.B. was a big reason for that, rescuing pars from outside of 15 feet twice, and saving a bogey on an awfully-played hole with a 20-foot "chip" from the fringe.
I mentioned this is my review, but I'll say it again: No other piece of equipment has made such a drastic impact on my game in a short time period as the L.A.B. It has completely transformed my putting.
 

Wow that’s awesome! I’m glad you found such a great fit and now have that confidence in your putter you were looking for.

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:edel-golf-1: SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | :taylormade-small: MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200

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Like edingc, played my first round of the season, and my first using the LAB DF.  Wow.  I’ve been following this thread closely, and practicing at home using all the tips here (thumbs off to the side, playing it slightly forward in my stance).  I’ve used an Odyssey 2-ball for a decade, and it’s been fine.  But having never used this outside, my distance control was so much better immediately, and I was making 10 footers all day (not that I had many given how close my initial putt was going.  Looking forward to the season.

Only issue frankly is the putter cover is so huge that it’s taking up too much room in my bag when I walk.  Is it crazy to keep the putter cover off when I’m carrying the bag walking?  

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3 minutes ago, ELEL13 said:

Is it crazy to keep the putter cover off when I’m carrying the bag walking?  

I walk, but use a push cart and a cart bag with a big putter well. So the head cover size of not an issue for me.

I'm sure the anodizing will nick and scratch without the cover, but if you're good with that, no, I don't think it would be an issue to not use a head cover. My only concern would be if the horizontally milled face lines took on bag chatter. Aluminum is very soft so everything can damage it.

Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024)

Driver: callaway_logo.png.3dd18aa65544000dd0ea3901697a8261.png Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post
3 Wood: 
cobra_logo.png.190908c8b4518eec87c087429e4343ee.png Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X
20° Hybrid: PXG_Logo.png.8401024d1fb8aec46f0e790c1aa5b80c.png PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X
4 Utility: 
cobra_logo.png.190908c8b4518eec87c087429e4343ee.png Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff
5-PW:
logo-Ben-Hogan-large.png.98d743ae5487285c6406a1e30a0a63b5.png Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting
50°, 54°, 58°:
231036130_Edel_Golf_Logo_v2_grandecopy.png.13cc76b963f8dd59f06d04b1e8df2827.png Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread
Putter:
image.png.49fcc172a1ed0010d930fbe1c5dc8b79.png L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review
Grips: 
stargrip.png.4285948f41f1409613266e7803f0bbaa.png Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up
Ball: :Snell:Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow

Tracked By: shotscope.png.4a7089f2bddff325285b1266a61dda03.png  Shot Scope H4
Bag: :1590477705_SunMountain: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync
Riding On: 
image.png.1db52ce91db040317a9ac580f1df8de8.pngBag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread

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Any idea if they do financing? I just priced out what I’d want and it almost cost as much as my iron set 🤑

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Driver: :callaway-small:   Epic Max LS :Fuji:Ventus Black 6x 44.5" 

3wHL: :callaway-small: Rogue ST LS 75x  Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink

7w: :callaway-small:Apex UW 21* MMT 80S

DI: Caley 01X 18* with KBS PGH Stiff plus 95g

4-AW: th.jpg.d6e2abdaeb04f007fd259c979f389de6.jpg  0211  with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched

Wedges     :cleveland-small: Zipcore 

Putter: L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue 

 

Ball:  TBD

Shot Tracking: :ShotScope:

Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0

Grip: Lamkin Sonar +  Midsize 

My Reviews:

Caley 01X Driving Iron Review 2023

Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 120 in the MGS Speed Challenge (updated 3/15/23)

 :1332069271_TommyArmour:TAIII #2  Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter )

 :cleveland-small: Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here)

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I got out for a real round yesterday and after a bunch of carpet putting at home the L.A.B was amazing for me as well. I really enjoy putting with that thing.

In my Vessel-removebg-preview.png.afd31301c874ee24a33a6c5f06f4ab98.png Lux XV Cart Bag:
Driver: image.png.0d0a9c800176ad44335fd0a7facba020.png RADSPEED XB PTC 10.5° Fujikura Speeder Evolution 661 VII Stiff
Utility: callaway-golf-vector-logo-removebg-preview.png.1467fda9195e29c96aa5066f048e91b9.png Apex UW 17° and 19° Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 70 6.0
4 Hybrid: image.png.0d0a9c800176ad44335fd0a7facba020.png KING LTDx 21° KBS PGI 85 Stiff
Irons: image.png.66179558e8e55b8b35b741c037395846.png ZX5/ZX7 Project X LZ 6.0
Wedges: image.png.620c54f7108fefbf49a94ba169f19081.png 2.0 49°, 53°, 57° Project X LZ 6.0
Putter:  logo-horizontal-black.svg LINK.1 34"
Ball: MaxFli.png.395dd0dca3a12529f636728b3e66a134.png Tour (Thanks MGS for allowing me to test these!)

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29 putts for me today. Anything 6 feet and in was just automatic. Unfortunately I had a 7' for birdie and lipped it out haha. I was scaring the hole all day from every length, and multiple times my playing partners mentioned my "cheater spaceship putter" 😂

Driver: :callaway-small: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S

3w/5w: :titelist-small: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S

4h: :mizuno-small: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S

Irons 5-PW: :mizuno-small: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S

Wedges: :cleveland-small: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105

Putter: LAB Link.1

Ball: :srixon-small: Z-Star Diamond

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I may be considering going back to a DF 2.1 in the future. But would buy one that is truly fitted for me. 

Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver

Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Updated 07/15/2022
Driver:callaway-small: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex
Fairway Woods:callaway-small: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood
Irons:mizuno-small: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip
Wedges:ping-small: Glide 4.0 54 and 58
Putter:  :ping-small: PLD Custom Kushin 4

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Really debating this but just can’t pull the trigger on the price

Follow my journey to enjoying golf and going low

Driver: :callaway-small:   Epic Max LS :Fuji:Ventus Black 6x 44.5" 

3wHL: :callaway-small: Rogue ST LS 75x  Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink

7w: :callaway-small:Apex UW 21* MMT 80S

DI: Caley 01X 18* with KBS PGH Stiff plus 95g

4-AW: th.jpg.d6e2abdaeb04f007fd259c979f389de6.jpg  0211  with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched

Wedges     :cleveland-small: Zipcore 

Putter: L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue 

 

Ball:  TBD

Shot Tracking: :ShotScope:

Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0

Grip: Lamkin Sonar +  Midsize 

My Reviews:

Caley 01X Driving Iron Review 2023

Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 120 in the MGS Speed Challenge (updated 3/15/23)

 :1332069271_TommyArmour:TAIII #2  Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter )

 :cleveland-small: Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here)

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16 minutes ago, rbsiedsc said:

Really debating this but just can’t pull the trigger on the price

It ain't much more than a new driver!

Driver: :callaway-small: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S

3w/5w: :titelist-small: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S

4h: :mizuno-small: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S

Irons 5-PW: :mizuno-small: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S

Wedges: :cleveland-small: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105

Putter: LAB Link.1

Ball: :srixon-small: Z-Star Diamond

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18 minutes ago, yungkory said:

It ain't much more than a new driver!

Think they raised the price. $549 without any shaft upgrades.

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Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Updated 07/15/2022
Driver:callaway-small: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex
Fairway Woods:callaway-small: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood
Irons:mizuno-small: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip
Wedges:ping-small: Glide 4.0 54 and 58
Putter:  :ping-small: PLD Custom Kushin 4

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