Popular Post edingc Posted October 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2020 Hey, everyone! I wanted to offer up an unofficial review for the L.A.B. Golf Directed Force 2.1 putter and an overview of the L.A.B. fitting process. I recently purchased this putter after scouring the web for reviews, and I hope that my thoughts here might help out anyone else who has an interest in this putter. The DF 2.1 is a lie-angled balanced putter, and besides the balance technology, the putter is perhaps best known for its interesting shape. If you followed along during #CobraConnect this summer, you’ll know I’m a very streaky putter. There will be weeks where I putt extremely well followed by stretches of some of the worst putting possible. When I first seriously got back into golf in 2018, I had a 36” Odyssey Tank blade I purchased on a whim. A putter “fitting” at a local shop revealed that I performed better (at the time) with a shorter putter, so I traded the Tank for a 33” TaylorMade Spider Tour Red, which was replaced with a navy 33” Spider X for this past year. I had a significant number of blown birdie opportunities this year. Certainly some were outside of what would be considered a “makeable” distance, but I had many opportunities inside of 10 feet that didn’t sniff the cup. I tend to struggle with distance control consistently, but I will go through bouts of start line problems as well. Additionally, as I have gotten older my back no longer tolerates the 33” length as it requires me to bend over a little more than I’d like (I’m just shy of six feet tall). I went into this offseason researching different putters. I landed on the DF 2.1, and after learning more about the lie-angle balance technology, decided I wanted to go through with a purchase. The Fitting and Ordering Process I placed my order on Oct. 5, and it shipped on Oct. 13. The specifications of my putter are as follows: 36” Length 68 Degree Lie Angle Black Finish (red and blue are also available for no charge, and nickel for an upcharge) Press II 3* Grip (upcharge) BGT Stability Tour Shaft (one of three upcharge options - BGT Stability and LAGP being the other two - KBS steel is the stock option) Combination of No. 18 and No. 19 sightlines (a custom option not on the website, also an upcharge) I had a very positive first impression when researching the DF 2.1. The L.A.B. website has a dealer locator, and much to my surprise a local shop I had never visited before was an authorized fitter. I scheduled a fitting for a Saturday morning, and I had a great experience as I had multiple people working with me for almost an hour at no cost (this may vary by dealer). L.A.B. provides their dealers with a specialized fitting putter. The fitting putter features both an adjustable lie angle and adjustable length shaft. We tried several different variations of length and lie until we found something that was very comfortable for me. I left the shop with a recommended length of 36” and lie of 66.5 degrees. TXG has a video about the DF 2.1 in which Matt Blois is shown briefly using the fitting putter: I had several additional questions about grip and shaft choices, so I reached out to L.A.B. through their website following the fitting. I was contacted by Matt Schuth, who was extremely helpful in answering my questions about grip and shaft choice. Matt also expressed some concern about my fitting results, saying the lie angle seemed a little flat, so he recommended a “remote” fitting. The remote fitting consists of taking a video with a comfortable length putter and sending it to the L.A.B. team for analysis. I actually had to purchase a 35” putter to complete the remote fitting because I did not have easy access to one locally. After sending my video to Matt, he came back with the recommended 68 degree lie angle. He said it was common for the in person fittings to come out a little too flat. I ended up placing an order through my local shop because they deserved the business after spending an hour fitting me. This was not a cheap purchase - with all of the upcharge options and Michigan sales tax the putter cost $736.70. I plan to keep this putter around for a long time. The golf season in Michigan is sadly pretty much over at this point of the year. I can’t wait to get out and give this a go when spring rolls around! In the meantime, my new Exputt putting simulator will be getting a lot of work over the winter months. I will try to keep this thread updated heading into next year with thoughts about and results from using this putter. In the meantime, here's some pictures and a brief video from my first practice session today. One thing I notice immediately is that I'm a little toe up in this video. I have a tendency to let my hands drop a little too much and pull the putter inside. Will be something to work on. The putter sole should be completely flat both heel-to-toe and front-to-back at address with the lie angle technology. Looks - 4/5 Stars There is no doubt the DF 2.1 is funky looking. Bottle-opener shape aside, the biggest thing you notice is the size of the head. The DF 2.1 makes my Spider X look tiny in comparison. After a few rolls, however, the head’s size feels more and more natural. The combination of the black grip, black Stability Tour shaft and black head is very pleasing. The head finish is matte, and L.A.B.’s updated branding on the sole of the club looks better compared to previous iterations of the putter. Since the finish is matte, there is no issue with sun glare or reflection. I’m very happy L.A.B. was able to accommodate my request to combine sightline options. I like having lines both parallel and perpendicular to my aim line. I also like that the outer lines frame the golf ball at address. I have a tendency to set the face too open and put the ball toeside, and these lines provide a nice reference for me to address the golf ball. Sound and Feel - 4/5 Stars The adjustment period has been relatively painless, with the biggest change being how light the head feels throughout the swing compared to my previous gamers. The sound of a putter is strongly correlated with feel for me. Having played the Spider line of putters, this is my first non-insert putter in some time. The DF 2.1 has horizontally milled lines on the aluminum face. Keep in mind I am gaming the DF 2.1 with the BGT Stability Tour shaft. I chose this shaft specifically because L.A.B. recommended it to achieve a “softer” feel. Putts struck out of the middle have a soft, muted sound and feel. As you move more to the heel and toe of the putter face (of which there is a lot to hit!), the sound becomes more metallic and pingy. This leads to those putts feeling firmer than ones out of the middle. I’m thoroughly enjoying the sound/feel of this putter. Basic Characteristics - 5/5 Stars The strength of this putter is its outstanding distance control. Given a few minutes to get a feel for the greens, I’m confident I will leave almost all of my putts within a 2-3 foot circle of the hole (that is, if they don’t go in!). It does not seem to matter if I don’t hit a putt just right - distances are repeatable and insulate against my stroke being imperfect. There is definitely something to the lie-angle balance technology, but you have to be careful not to manipulate the club with your hands. Coming from a standard putter, it took a few practice sessions to eliminate my hands from causing rotation of the face. I went up to a 36 inch putter to alleviate some of the stress on my lower back. This has been a resounding success. I have practiced a lot since receiving the putter (much more than I had all season up to that point) and have no back pain whatsoever. I am more upright in my stance and my eyes now rest about one-to-two inches inside the ball at address. Miscellaneous - 5/5 Stars The included leather headcover is very high quality. It has very strong closure magnets but is still easy to put on and take off, appears to be made from quality materials and the embroidered L.A.B. logo is top notch. To attach my Arccos putter sensor to the Press II grip, I had to take a small drill bit and deepen the hole at the end of the grip. I’ll admit it was a little unnerving to take a power tool to a brand new $700 putter. On Course Performance - 5/5 Stars With the nice fall weather holding on as long as it has this year, I’ve had more opportunities to play than I anticipated when starting this post. I ended up squeezing in a total of four rounds (54 tracked holes) with the L.A.B. The results were very promising. The four rounds were the best putting performances of my season! And that was despite playing courses I hadn’t previously played more than once during the year. In 54 holes I tallied only two three-putts, for a three-putt percentage of 3.7 percent. In comparison, my final 54 holes with the Spider X yielded five three putts, and I recorded 11 three-putts over 36 holes at one point during the last week of the #CobraConnect challenge. Although I have no on course data to support this claim, my second putts are also of much more makeable distance. It would have not been uncommon in the past for my second putt to be four feet or longer. With the L.A.B. so many of my second putts are tap-ins. “Early” Overall Score - 4.5/5 Stars Yeah, the L.A.B. DF 2.1 is an expensive piece of golf equipment. However, if current trends hold, the L.A.B. will be a major reason for me finally staying in the single digits. I have not tried/tested/purchased another piece of equipment that has made such a dramatic change to my game in such a short period of time. Rtracymog, Headhammer, aerospace_ray and 17 others 19 1 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy MPR Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Really, really looking forward to following along on this. edingc, JohnSmalls, GolfSpy_SHARK and 1 other 4 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX T3 15°, Project X HZRDUS Black Epic Super Hybrid 18°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 21°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 6–PW CBX 48° T22 54° and 60° EAS 4.0, Garsen G-Pro grip TP5x and Tour Response Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlow206 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Following. Im gaming the DF 2.1 as well GolfSpy_SHARK, BrownBearGolf, yungkory and 2 others 5 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, GolfSpy MPR said: Really, really looking forward to following along on this. Another putter for your collection? I only had about 25 minutes with it this morning, but I can say it feels really nice and puts an excellent roll on the ball. I'm sure it is a honeymoon period, but I think the Press grip will be a big help to my distance control. Still some figuring out to do, but in general it appeared my distance control was much improved. Getting the correct distance is another ballgame, and something I'm still working on. BrownBearGolf, JohnSmalls, GolfSpy_SHARK and 2 others 5 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berg Ryman Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 I'll be paying attention to you @edingc since I was also in the LAB thread discussing going this direction as I begin Putter Quest Winter 2020 edingc, BrownBearGolf, JohnSmalls and 1 other 4 Quote In a Hoofer Lite bag TSR2, 10 degrees, A1 setting, Fujikara Speeder NX Blue 50-S Stealth, 15 degrees, VA Composites Nemesys 70-S E722, 19 degrees, Oban Devotion 80-S JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro 4-P, Nippon 950GH Stiff Flex CBX Zipcore 50* (bent to *49) and RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 54* (bent to *55), DG 115 Spinner, Tour Issue Staff Model TG 60*, Dynamic Gold 120 S300 SIK Golf Flo-C Tour B-XS (2022 Model) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy MPR Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 35 minutes ago, edingc said: Another putter for your collection? I only had about 25 minutes with it this morning, but I can say it feels really nice and puts an excellent roll on the ball. I'm sure it is a honeymoon period, but I think the Press grip will be a big help to my distance control. Still some figuring out to do, but in general it appeared my distance control was much improved. Getting the correct distance is another ballgame, and something I'm still working on. You've already mentioned my biggest obstacle on the LAB putters: the price is quite prohibitive. At some point, though, I think my circumstances (money, trip to Minneapolis, etc.) for me to do an Edel fitting. One question about what you've posted so far: do you find it concerning that the phone fitting adjusted your lie angle, and then once you receive the putter, you're slightly toe up? It seems to me that perhaps the in person fitter might have had this one correct. GregGarner, cnosil, AcesAndHoles and 6 others 9 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX T3 15°, Project X HZRDUS Black Epic Super Hybrid 18°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 21°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 6–PW CBX 48° T22 54° and 60° EAS 4.0, Garsen G-Pro grip TP5x and Tour Response Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan_Golfer_PNW Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 I am going to follow as well. I consider myself a good putter but anything that can make it easier is worth it in my book. edingc, JohnSmalls, GolfSpy_SHARK and 1 other 4 Quote Follow my journey to enjoying golf and going low Driver: Epic Max LS Ventus Black 6x 44.5" 3wHL: Rogue ST LS 75x Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink 7w: Apex UW 21* MMT 80S DI: Caley 01X 18* with KBS PGH Stiff plus 95g 4-AW: 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched Wedges Zipcore Putter: L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue Ball: TBD Shot Tracking: Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0 Grip: Lamkin Sonar + Midsize My Reviews: Caley 01X Driving Iron Review 2023 Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 120 in the MGS Speed Challenge (updated 3/15/23) TAIII #2 Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter ) Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) 0211 2019 Unofficial Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post edingc Posted October 18, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2020 6 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said: You've already mentioned my biggest obstacle on the LAB putters: the price is quite prohibitive. At some point, though, I think my circumstances (money, trip to Minneapolis, etc.) for me to do an Edel fitting. One question about what you've posted so far: do you find it concerning that the phone fitting adjusted your lie angle, and then once you receive the putter, you're slightly toe up? It seems to me that perhaps the in person fitter might have had this one correct. I think the the toe being up is a flaw in my setup. I have a tendency to really allow my hands to drop low and to bring the club on a strong arc inside. Setting up with the DF flat really gets my hands in a better spot and my stroke gets a lot more SBST. Matt from L.A.B. mentioned he sees the hands drop a lot in the in person fittings. Because the fitting putter has the moveable lie angle, he said people just get their hands really low when there is no resistance to doing so. I was very impressed on the putting green today, and it kills me that I will likely be waiting months before I can really give it a proper test on course. BrownBearGolf, GolfSpy MPR, THEZIPR23 and 7 others 10 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy BOS Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Looking forward to seeing your results with this one Cody! My putter was fit very flat too (67*) and it feels so much better to me than a stock putter. I hope you have some great results with this one! sirchunksalot, edingc, GolfSpy_SHARK and 1 other 4 Quote Epic Max LS 10.5 - Motore X F3 6X | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | TSi3 20* Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 ER2B | Pro V1x | NX9 Slope | Jones Trouper R | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 First thing I've noticed is a sound difference between indoor and outdoor practice. Have you noticed anything, @dlow206? I felt like on the putting green yesterday the sound had a little bit of a "ping" to it, where as indoors it seems to be more of a muted crack. The feel seemed to change a little bit too, I'm thinking the sound had a lot to do with that. The face feels firmer indoors than it did outside. I'm using a MTB-X indoors, was using ProV1x and ProV1 outside, so should be reasonably the same. Of course, all early observations. I had a really good session this morning on the Exputt hitting 0-20 foot putts. cnosil, Vegan_Golfer_PNW and MrBandit 3 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlow206 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 3 hours ago, edingc said: First thing I've noticed is a sound difference between indoor and outdoor practice. Have you noticed anything, @dlow206? I felt like on the putting green yesterday the sound had a little bit of a "ping" to it, where as indoors it seems to be more of a muted crack. The feel seemed to change a little bit too, I'm thinking the sound had a lot to do with that. The face feels firmer indoors than it did outside. I'm using a MTB-X indoors, was using ProV1x and ProV1 outside, so should be reasonably the same. Of course, all early observations. I had a really good session this morning on the Exputt hitting 0-20 foot putts. I guess I haven't paid much attention to the sound. As long as its not an abnormal sound, I tend to not even think about the sound. Today was the second round for me gaming the DF 2.1, but first time with the Stability shaft installed. Greens were slower than normal due to the rain, so had to hit putts harder than normal. My short putting was a lot better than normal. My lag putting was pretty good, but still tend to hit my putts a little long with the DF 2.1. Still getting accustomed to distance control. edingc 1 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 I've had about three hours on the putting green with the L.A.B. now. I'm very impressed. I have not rolled a putter as beautifully in some time. This thing puts an incredible roll on the ball. Because of the quality of roll, my distance control has gotten much better. I do think this might be more of a function of the grip than the putter however. With my Spider X I would forward press but routinely miss the middle of the face leading to all sorts of distance issues. Because the Press II grip automatically puts a consistent forward press, there's no variability in the setup. @ChasingScratch commented on my Instagram post and made a good observation - you really just need to line up the ball and swing. The ball starts on the line so well. The practice green I frequent is not very flat and quick compared to my home course and I've just been dropping putts from all over the place. The sound and feel is nice. Putts directly out of the middle of the face create a very muted sound and a very nice soft feeling at impact (similar to hitting the sweet spot on the Spider X insert). Putts hit a little more out of the heel or toe are more "pingy," but the hold their line well and go similar distances as balls out of the middle. Regarding the size, it's confidence inspiring. You literally cannot miss the face because the head is so large. Some of my improvement probably can be attributed to my increased practice with the Exputt, but today I just lined up my putts, gauged my speed and let it go and had a lot of success. I have 18 holes scheduled tomorrow at a course I've never played. We'll see how I feel after the putter's maiden voyage under pressure... cnosil, GolfSpy BOS, joen and 5 others 8 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungkory Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Glad you pulled the trigger dude, I'm excited to see your results. I'll keep you in my thoughts as I continue to play golf for the next 5 months in shorts and 80F weather JohnSmalls, Tom D. and edingc 2 1 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: LAB Link.1 Ball: Z-Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEZIPR23 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Very nice Cody. Glad to see the distance improvements right out of the gate. That’s huge! edingc 1 Quote Stealth 2+ 9 (Diamana PD 60 S 45") Stealth 2+ 15 (Diamana PD 70 S 43") G425 19 (Raijin 2.0 85x) G425 22 (Raijin 2.0 85x) ZX7 5-9 (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM9 45 10 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 49 08 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 59 04 T (KBS 610) Spider GT Splitback 34" ProV1 #23 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlow206 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 One thing I have noticed with the DF 2.1 is that if you start with the putter flat (neither toe up or toe down) and you make a good stroke without your hands ending up higher or lower at impact, then the putter really does square itself up. If for some reason you previously manipulated your prior putter and your hands end up higher or lower at impact for some reason, then you are likely going to push or pull your putts. @edingc - have you noticed this at all? Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigleyd Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I recently decided that I was tired of missing putts and put one of these in the bag.. Its big, its ugly, it works. edingc, JohnSmalls and yungkory 1 2 Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym Triple diamond 10.5 Ventus black TR 6x 3 wood ; Callaway Paradym triple diamond 15 degree, Ventus black TR 7x Apex UW 19 degree, Ventus black TR 8x Utility Iron: Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility, Ventus blue HB 90X Irons: Callaway Apex MB 5-PW, KBS $ taper 130x Wedges: Callaway Jaws Raw 50, 54, 58, KBS $ taper 130x Putter: Wilson Staff TM22, hand torched, KBS cutter putter shaft, Super stroke Pistol GT 1.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 5 hours ago, dlow206 said: One thing I have noticed with the DF 2.1 is that if you start with the putter flat (neither toe up or toe down) and you make a good stroke without your hands ending up higher or lower at impact, then the putter really does square itself up. If for some reason you previously manipulated your prior putter and your hands end up higher or lower at impact for some reason, then you are likely going to push or pull your putts. @edingc - have you noticed this at all? Yes, I've experienced this already. When I get my hands too low I tend to pull the putts. The head stays square but because the head is toe up, the face is pointing left of the ideal target line. JohnSmalls 1 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 First round with the L.A.B. DF is in the books. Based on the Arccos data the maiden voyage tied for my best putting performance all season. 28 putts! Total number of putts is a little misleading as I only hit two greens today, but 28 putts is the fewest number of putts I've ever recorded in a round. That's certainly no coincidence. I lipped out two putts as well, one from about four feet, so I wasn't far from even fewer total putts. The greens weren't in the best shape, some were much quicker than others, probably because it appeared like they aerated a few greens at a time over the past month. Some were completely healed, some were still quite damaged, and a few were pretty sandy. Still, the DF put an excellent roll on the ball and my distance control was pretty spot on. I really, really like the Press II grip. I just made sure I took a nice relaxed grip and let the head do all of the work. It really does feel effortless to keep the face square to the target line. I also used the DF from the fairway and fringe multiple times, places where I'd usually chip. I was very impressed with the ability to get the ball up and rolling on the fairway/collar quickly while providing consistent distance control. Knowing me, this is probably a honeymoon period. But I had a ton of confidence in the L.A.B. today and rolled in a couple 10+ footers with ease. Vegan_Golfer_PNW, yungkory, JohnSmalls and 5 others 7 1 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcesAndHoles Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Love the feedback. Loved the putter when I tried a stock one but the price is terrifying. Looking forward to hear the rest of your findings. edingc and JohnSmalls 2 Quote Driver: Callaway Epic Flash SZ 9* w/ Hzrdus Smoke Black Irons : Wilson D7 Forged 4-P Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab V-Line AKA the #FourPuttPrince. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 I put my last round of the season in the books last night, walking a quick nine on a cloudy and chilly afternoon at probably the worst-conditioned course in the area. They've had a lot of issues with their greens, about half of each green is dead and bumpy, which made putting and chipping an adventure. Still, I didn't three putt and recorded a wonderful birdie on No. 3 with an uphill 15 footer with some left-to-right break. I found the L.A.B. continued to help me put a consistent roll and distance on the ball despite the greens. There was only one green where I completely misread the speed/distance and left myself a 10ish-footer to save par, which I confidently rolled in center cup. Otherwise, holes 1, 2, 4, 5, 8 and 9 were all two-putt holes from 8-25 feet with nothing more than about 18 inches to tap-in the second putt. Stoked. The initial 27 holes with the L.A.B. were pretty much the best putting efforts of the season for me, especially in terms of three-putt avoidance. Twenty-seven holes without a three-putt is rare for me, especially since I had not played either of these two courses this season until now. joen, Tom D., gavinski91 and 5 others 8 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berg Ryman Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 @edingc that's super impressive improvement! Making me really want to scratch that itch, at the very least. Vegan_Golfer_PNW and edingc 2 Quote In a Hoofer Lite bag TSR2, 10 degrees, A1 setting, Fujikara Speeder NX Blue 50-S Stealth, 15 degrees, VA Composites Nemesys 70-S E722, 19 degrees, Oban Devotion 80-S JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro 4-P, Nippon 950GH Stiff Flex CBX Zipcore 50* (bent to *49) and RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 54* (bent to *55), DG 115 Spinner, Tour Issue Staff Model TG 60*, Dynamic Gold 120 S300 SIK Golf Flo-C Tour B-XS (2022 Model) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 34 minutes ago, Berg Ryman said: @edingc that's super impressive improvement! Making me really want to scratch that itch, at the very least. Thanks! I will say the greens at both courses are smaller than my home course. Could be something to that, as well. I attribute a lot of the distance control to the Press grip. I'd be curious to see how I'd do with that grip on a regular putter. However, I'm really liking the feel of the DF. It takes very little grip pressure to hold and square, and so I end up taking a very nice, smooth stroke. Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Ross Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Look, I know this putter is laughed at more than any other and people say there is no way they could ever put it in the bag. When I saw it for the first time, I was at the PGA Tour Superstore wasting time and I laughed at how it looked. I grabbed it as a joke and told my buddy I could outperform him with any putter he chose in the store. I had heard of these and seen the random pictures on Facebook with people making fun of them but that was where my knowledge of the putter stopped. It didn’t take many putts to realize this putter was no joke, but rather the answer to my problems. In the past few years, there have been a lot of putters that I have liked the looks and feel of, just to lose that good feeling a few rounds down the road. No matter the putter, I would eventually be unhappy with the weight or something else and my stroke would get shaky. At this point, it was nearly impossible to start my putts on the intended line. In steps the L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1. Prior to that day at the PGA Superstore, I knew nothing about these putters. As you know these putters eliminate any torque of the face. Basically all other putters on the planet want to twist naturally during your putting stroke but this one stays square to your path with no effort on your part. It also comes with a grip that is designed to get the shaft leaning forward. I have always pressed my hands forward before taking my stroke so this eliminates the need for that. Putting with this literally feels like cheating! I have improved across the board with my putting, but the most improvement has been with the short putts. If interested, it is imperative that you get fitted for this putter. Like @edingc, I did the remote fitting. For this putter to work at its best, as with most clubs, it needs to be built with the proper lie angle. The technology is real and when you start making more putts you get over the shape and size of it pretty quickly. I’m glad I made the switch, my confidence is through the roof, and this is the longest I have held on to a single putter for quite a few years. The guys at L.A.B. are great, they get involved with their customers to make sure they are happy and answer any questions you have. I'm also happy to answer any questions if you have some. Our winters can get snowy here and there in north GA but I can play almost all winter so feel free to ask any questions! yungkory, GregGarner, Vegan_Golfer_PNW and 2 others 5 Quote In my Lux XV Cart Bag: Driver: RADSPEED XB PTC 10.5° Fujikura Speeder Evolution 661 VII Stiff Utility: Apex UW 17° and 19° Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 70 6.0 4 Hybrid: KING LTDx 21° KBS PGI 85 Stiff Irons: ZX5/ZX7 Project X LZ 6.0 Wedges: 2.0 49°, 53°, 57° Project X LZ 6.0 Putter: LINK.1 34" Ball: Tour (Thanks MGS for allowing me to test these!) Check out my Official MGS Reviews Below! LX5 Watch - Link Here! Tour and TourX Golf Balls - Link Here! Approach S70 Watch - Link Here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 20 minutes ago, Josh Ross said: Putting with this literally feels like cheating! It really does. Obviously speed control is still a skill, but it's so easy to put a great roll on the ball. Effortless feeling. Thanks for adding your thoughts, @Josh Ross. Glad to hear you were happy with the remote fitting, too. What specs were you fit into? I wish they made custom headcovers. Or at least a few different designs. I'd love one with just their martini glass logo made a little larger and/or a different color. Vegan_Golfer_PNW 1 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Ross Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, edingc said: It really does. Obviously speed control is still a skill, but it's so easy to put a great roll on the ball. Effortless feeling. Thanks for adding your thoughts, @Josh Ross. Glad to hear you were happy with the remote fitting, too. What specs were you fit into? I wish they made custom headcovers. Or at least a few different designs. I'd love one with their martini glass logo. I was fit into the 34" putter with a 67° lie angle. Until the recent struggles with feeling comfortable with a putter, I was above average at putting. This has helped bring me back to having solid putting performances. Custom headcovers would be cool, I'd love to throw something different on there from time to time. edingc and Vegan_Golfer_PNW 2 Quote In my Lux XV Cart Bag: Driver: RADSPEED XB PTC 10.5° Fujikura Speeder Evolution 661 VII Stiff Utility: Apex UW 17° and 19° Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 70 6.0 4 Hybrid: KING LTDx 21° KBS PGI 85 Stiff Irons: ZX5/ZX7 Project X LZ 6.0 Wedges: 2.0 49°, 53°, 57° Project X LZ 6.0 Putter: LINK.1 34" Ball: Tour (Thanks MGS for allowing me to test these!) Check out my Official MGS Reviews Below! LX5 Watch - Link Here! Tour and TourX Golf Balls - Link Here! Approach S70 Watch - Link Here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlow206 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 9:24 AM, edingc said: Thanks! I will say the greens at both courses are smaller than my home course. Could be something to that, as well. I attribute a lot of the distance control to the Press grip. I'd be curious to see how I'd do with that grip on a regular putter. However, I'm really liking the feel of the DF. It takes very little grip pressure to hold and square, and so I end up taking a very nice, smooth stroke. The part about grip pressure i have found is important. I have still been gripping too tightly and that can cause me to pull the ball. I need to trust the light grip. edingc 1 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMart519 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Does anyone know approximate ranges for the head weight for the 2.1? I believe their info says it varies based on lie angle during the fitting. edingc 1 Quote G425 MAX Driver & 5W Baffler Rail-H 3H-4H 699 Pro Utility V2 - 4i APEX CF19 6-AW INDI Wedges 52, 56, 60 EAS 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlow206 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, BMart519 said: Does anyone know approximate ranges for the head weight for the 2.1? I believe their info says it varies based on lie angle during the fitting. 370 to 415 grams edingc and Josh Ross 2 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 15 hours ago, BMart519 said: Does anyone know approximate ranges for the head weight for the 2.1? I believe their info says it varies based on lie angle during the fitting. 15 hours ago, dlow206 said: 370 to 415 grams To add to this, I believe they vary the weights with differing amounts of tungsten powder and plugs while maintaining the same base aluminum head. I saw on their social media that they were able to get a head up to over 500 grams for one of their broomstick customers. ryan.mzzz 1 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 The weather at lunch has been good enough to at least get out and putt/chip at the practice green for a few minutes over the past couple of days. My golf season is over and the range is closed, but I'm going to continue lunchtime putting practice as long as my hands can take the temperatures. I've been focusing my time on speed/distance control accounting for uphill/downhill putts. I'm still blown away at how much better my speed/distance control is with the L.A.B. Of course, this is anecdotal since I can't effectively measure speed/distance in an uncontrolled environment, but I've seen similar results both indoors on my EXPUTT and outdoors on the practice green and on course. That got me thinking today exactly why this might be the case. Some thoughts I've had: As I've mentioned before, the lie-angle balancing makes the DF 2.1 extremely easy to swing. There is no need to have much, if any, grip pressure to maintain the face angle throughout the swing. Taking a nice, relaxed grip with no thumb pressure helps me be smooth throughout the backstroke and forward swing. When my grip tenses up I tend to "hit" at the ball. The DF 2.1 head is massive. That allows me to putt with a lot of confidence because the face is so large and the roll is consistent from heel-to-toe. The size also transfers a lot of energy to the ball with little effort. Even though the balance makes the head feel light, they are pretty heavy heads. Sometimes with my two Spiders I'd feel like I really needed to hit the ball hard to get it to go. That is not the case with the L.A.B. I can lengthen the same smooth stroke and add distance. The design of the head combined with the grip makes for a very repeatable setup. I make sure the head is flat both side-to-side and front-to-back since the Press II grip adds the right loft to the club. From there I can focus on the stroke and not worry whether the right amount of loft is being applied to the ball. A major variable in the putt is eliminated as as a result. cnosil, ryan.mzzz, yungkory and 1 other 4 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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