2020 Classic Bag Challenge

[NRJyzr]

2 hours ago, JohnSmalls said:

A little sneak peak inside the classic club master’s shop.  @BIG STU pretty sure you’re the Yoda of the forum

 

Edited November 12, 2020 by NRJyzr

[JohnSmalls]

2 hours ago, Rickp said:

That’s great. I’m sure there’s a LOT MORE


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2 hours ago, sirchunksalot said:

 

I was going to say the same thing. I feel @JohnSmalls just hit the tip of the iceberg at @BIG STU shop. 

Having visited recently, I can assure you the surface hasn’t even been tickled...let alone scratched. Stu asked me to post that today. If you think the shop is awesome, you should hear the stories that come with the clubs in the shop. 

[BIG STU]

5 hours ago, sirchunksalot said:

 

I was going to say the same thing. I feel @JohnSmalls just hit the tip of the iceberg at @BIG STU shop. 

You guys would be correct--- There is the front bedroom and then the 16 X16 building across the street

[cnosil]

Having visited recently, I can assure you the surface hasn’t even been tickled...let alone scratched. Stu asked me to post that today. If you think the shop is awesome, you should hear the stories that come with the clubs in the shop. 

You guys would be correct--- There is the front bedroom and then the 16 X16 building across the street

Sounds like someone needs to put a virtual tour together and have Big Stu narrate what we are seeing.

[BIG STU]

What John did not tell you is the clubs on the left side arrived after he left here. My fellow club ho and playing partner Bear showed up Tuesday with 10 sets of irons. No he ain't quitting hoeing but he ran out of room. Among the sets 99 Apex Plus which are really messed up just checked the 8 iron and it is 8* jacked. The really shining set so to speak is a set of 2014 TM TP CBs with Steel Fiber shafts which are light which should help my back. Another set is a set of Homna G1-X GI CBs which lol match my driver. Having to let the water drain out of the shafts. Bad rain the next 2 days so I have plenty time to tune

Edited November 12, 2020 by BIG STU

[Rickp]

What John did not tell you is the clubs on the left side arrived after he left here. My fellow club ho and playing partner Bear showed up Tuesday with 10 sets of irons. No he ain't quitting hoeing but he ran out of room. Among the sets 99 Apex Plus which are really messed up just checked the 8 iron and it is 8* jacked. The really shining set so to speak is a set of 2014 TM TP CBs with Steel Fiber shafts which are light which should help my back. Another set is a set of Homna G1-X GI CBs which lol match my driver. Having to let the water drain out of the shafts. Bad rain the next 2 days so I have plenty time to tune

I am definitely impressed


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[JohnSmalls]

2 hours ago, cnosil said:

 

 

Sounds like someone needs to put a virtual tour together and have Big Stu narrate what we are seeing.

 

 

Sign me up.

[JohnSmalls]

2 hours ago, BIG STU said:

What John did not tell you is the clubs on the left side arrived after he left here. My fellow club ho and playing partner Bear showed up Tuesday with 10 sets of irons. No he ain't quitting hoeing but he ran out of room. Among the sets 99 Apex Plus which are really messed up just checked the 8 iron and it is 8* jacked. The really shining set so to speak is a set of 2014 TM TP CBs with Steel Fiber shafts which are light which should help my back. Another set is a set of Homna G1-X GI CBs which lol match my driver. Having to let the water drain out of the shafts. Bad rain the next 2 days so I have plenty time to tune

Didn’t want to steal your thunder!

[Rickp]

What John did not tell you is the clubs on the left side arrived after he left here. My fellow club ho and playing partner Bear showed up Tuesday with 10 sets of irons. No he ain't quitting hoeing but he ran out of room. Among the sets 99 Apex Plus which are really messed up just checked the 8 iron and it is 8* jacked. The really shining set so to speak is a set of 2014 TM TP CBs with Steel Fiber shafts which are light which should help my back. Another set is a set of Homna G1-X GI CBs which lol match my driver. Having to let the water drain out of the shafts. Bad rain the next 2 days so I have plenty time to tune

Any LH sets


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[BIG STU]

4 hours ago, Rickp said:

Any LH sets


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Sorry nope do his son would have scarfed them up

[HardcoreLooper]

13 hours ago, cnosil said:

 

 

Sounds like someone needs to put a virtual tour together and have Big Stu narrate what we are seeing.

 

 

Maybe an Erik Anders Lang Adventures in Golf, send in the NLU boys, or have ESPN have Wright Thompson do a video essay.

PS - That orange PowerBilt bag is 

[fozcycle]

Man, I think I might join in this challenge.  I have my grandfathers set of MacGregor Jack Nicholas Muirfield's (3-PW, D and 4w) that I "re-discovered" in my garage a couple months ago.  I've been wanting to play them just for the h*ll of it just to see.  This will give me a great excuse.   I just need to reset the hosel's back into place on a few of them 
I "think" they are early to mid-70's era, and I don't think they are 20th Anniv editions that came out mid-eighties, so these will definitely make the cut.  
I have no idea what I'm getting myself into , but it'll be fun! 
 
Picture are after giving them a bath, that was very therapeutic. 

Man those are sweet. I gamed the Muirfield irons for 20 years, they were great!


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[sirchunksalot]

Today was a spend some time with the wife day, as work has been keeping me away from home a lot. One of her friends bought her a Cricut, so we had to head out to town to see what kind of attachments are available for it. While we were at the hobby store, I picked up some paint to play around with paint filling some old clubs. I picked up some red and black for the Wilson's and didn't think about it until I got home and wished I had grabbed some white for the Ping B60 I'm using for this challenge.

I'm hoping the rain will clear out in time tomorrow so I can get another round in. 

[HardcoreLooper]

It was a gorgeous day today, and I had just enough daylight to get in nine after coaching and before dark at the First Tee executive course.  I was playing my usual game, sprinkling in some bogeys among the pars, and I walked off the 7th green at +3.  A wedge to 10 feet and a left-to-right downhill slider got me back to +2.  And then a 3-wood, 190 yard 5-iron and a 40 foot putt (first three of the year on #9) had me finish up at 33/even par.

I think this might show another problem with the formula.  If I use 

=(GrossScore-((Slope/113)*(Index/2))+(CoursePar-CourseRating))

I get 

31.4 = (33-((113/113)*(6.8/2))+(33-31.4))

And that seems too low to me.  I played well, but not that well.  I did a ton of reading, and I can't find anything on the formula we're using.  When you play from different tees, the USGA has you take the difference between course ratings to make an adjustment.  I'm wondering if it might not make more sense for us to do the same.  Right now, @sirchunksalot has played the highest course rating (35.2).  This may seem nuts, but it's pretty easy to deal with in a spreadsheet.

Which gives me

33.6 = (33-((113/113)*(6.8/2))+(35.2-31.4))

That seems more legitimate.  The entire leaderboard looks like this:

Here's the spreadsheet:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_WqHLeNUNJ1k3BgXmWz85SukX55KDEHxH8FOLpSraTE/edit?usp=sharing

@deejaid - I need your index and the course rating and slope for your course.

 

 

 

[deejaid]

It was a gorgeous day today, and I had just enough daylight to get in nine after coaching and before dark at the First Tee executive course.  I was playing my usual game, sprinkling in some bogeys among the pars, and I walked off the 7th green at +3.  A wedge to 10 feet and a left-to-right downhill slider got me back to +2.  And then a 3-wood, 190 yard 5-iron and a 40 foot putt (first three of the year on #9) had me finish up at 33/even par.
I think this might show another problem with the formula.  If I use 
=(GrossScore-((Slope/113)*(Index/2))+(CoursePar-CourseRating))
I get 
31.4 = (33-((113/113)*(6.8/2))+(33-31.4))
And that seems too low to me.  I played well, but not that well.  I did a ton of reading, and I can't find anything on the formula we're using.  When you play from different tees, the USGA has you take the difference between course ratings to make an adjustment.  I'm wondering if it might not make more sense for us to do the same.  Right now, [mention=80128]sirchunksalot[/mention] has played the highest course rating (35.2).  This may seem nuts, but it's pretty easy to deal with in a spreadsheet.
Which gives me
33.6 = (33-((113/113)*(6.8/2))+(35.2-31.4))
That seems more legitimate.  The entire leaderboard looks like this:

Here's the spreadsheet:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_WqHLeNUNJ1k3BgXmWz85SukX55KDEHxH8FOLpSraTE/edit?usp=sharing
[mention=56773]deejaid[/mention] - I need your index and the course rating and slope for your course.
 
 
 

Here you go.

Gross 44- ((134/113)x(8.9/2))+72-70.6= 37.32301

Although I’m not sure if I was supposed to take half the course par-half course rating.


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[HardcoreLooper]

8 minutes ago, deejaid said:

Here you go.

Gross 44- ((134/113)x(8.9/2))+72-70.6= 37.32301

Although I’m not sure if I was supposed to take half the course par-half course rating.


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You should cut that last part of the formula in half, since we're only playing nine.  Or in my spreadsheet, it looks like this:

And now you've set the top end of the course rating adjustment.  It's going to be tough to catch @NRJyzr.  I played my ass off today and I'm still 2.4 shots back.

[NRJyzr]

8 hours ago, HardcoreLooper said:

You should cut that last part of the formula in half, since we're only playing nine.  Or in my spreadsheet, it looks like this:

And now you've set the top end of the course rating adjustment.  It's going to be tough to catch @NRJyzr.  I played my ass off today and I'm still 2.4 shots back.

I think you're ahead, based on that first one you have for me.  That even par nine holes wasn't part of the challenge, I was playing that day with my Original One, King LTD 3w, and TM hybrid. 

My only entry for the Challenge is that 38 on 11/6.

Edited to add:  I didn't bother to calculate the 41 I had on the front nine that day.  LOL

Edited November 15, 2020 by NRJyzr

[sirchunksalot]

9 hours ago, deejaid said:

Here you go.

Gross 44- ((134/113)x(8.9/2))+72-70.6= 37.32301

Although I’m not sure if I was supposed to take half the course par-half course rating.


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I would say if you can find the course rating and slope for your course, you are welcome to use it. 

Also, a big thank you to @HardcoreLooper for developing a spreadsheet. I'm really not good at excel, it's something I never used in school and I've been in manufacturing my whole career and was never required to learn. 

[NRJyzr]

30 minutes ago, sirchunksalot said:

I would say if you can find the course rating and slope for your course, you are welcome to use it. 

Also, a big thank you to @HardcoreLooper for developing a spreadsheet. I'm really not good at excel, it's something I never used in school and I've been in manufacturing my whole career and was never required to learn. 

One of the times being a bean counter (meaning me) has its benefits.  LOL

 

[HardcoreLooper]

1 hour ago, sirchunksalot said:

I would say if you can find the course rating and slope for your course, you are welcome to use it. 

Also, a big thank you to @HardcoreLooper for developing a spreadsheet. I'm really not good at excel, it's something I never used in school and I've been in manufacturing my whole career and was never required to learn. 

@sirchunksalot - If you're good with the change in the formula, I'm happy to maintain it.  Or people can add to it themselves (it's open to edit).

 

34 minutes ago, NRJyzr said:

One of the times being a bean counter (meaning me) has its benefits.  LOL

 

Used to be a coder, but now that I'm in sales and management, I live in spreadsheets.