Firebird 388 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Hi guys, I have suggested this to several times and were surprised that the responses were that they had never tried it. I was taught to shorten my grip as a means of closing the gap between clubs. For example with my normal grip I hit a 7 iron 155M (170yds) however by moving my hands down the grip I can vary the length by up to 8m (8.8yds) It means that I can still have a full swing, just takes a bit of getting used to holding the thinner grip. Once you get used to it it can make a huge difference particularly with shorter clubs. Is this something you do. 3 Quote Callaway Epic Flash 9 Degree Callaway Epic Flash 3 wood 15 Degree Callaway Apex 21 Hybrid 19 Degree Callaway Steelhead Pro 4-AW Irons Cleveland 54 Degree Wedge Steel Shaft Recoil Graphite Shafts in all Callaway Cobra Vintage Series Stingray 40 Preferred ball - Seed 001 Link to comment
Shankster 33,162 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Only on side-hill lies. Choking up on the club does not fair well for me. In fact, my left palm is nearly off the end of the grip usually. 1 Quote Link to comment
Malaka 18 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I makes my ball-flight lower, and it feels strange having weight above my hands. Sometimes I'll choke down for punch shots, with moderate results. Sent from my moto g(7) power using Tapatalk 2 Quote WITB Driver: Z785 , Hazardous 6.0 (Normal) 3 Wood: F85 @ 13.5* Hazardous Red 6.0 (Stiff) Driving Iron/Utility: ZU85 2iron @ 18* Irons: 5-PW, 588CB w/ TT S300's (Stiff) Wedge: RTX4 Satin, 50*/Mid, 56*/Mid and 60*/Low Putter: Portofino Bag: Stand Bag Link to comment
Pandaman 285 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 My distance control and strike are somewhat erratic, but yes I do do that, and it does help. I probably don't do it enough to be fair. 2 Quote Link to comment
Chip Strokes 6,755 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 currently i do, because i don’t have anything between my 9i (160-165) and my 56 (120) as a result, my 9i has to play a lot of roles and i choke down to take some distance or height off the ball once my PW and 52 come in, i’ll be able to use full and 3/4 swings to cover all my gaps 2 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment
Lacassem 17,468 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I do better with different swings to control distance. Like @Shankstermy grip is pretty close to the end of the grip and that’s where I like it. I have my 4 different swings for each club and that covers all my distances I need 2 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review WITB: Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2019 P790 4-PW - Project X 6.5 LZ 48 (SM8), 52, 56, 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Thank you to all those that have served/are serving and God Bless America Link to comment
Kenny B 34,291 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I'm not good enough to hit my clubs exact specific distances with a full swing, so moving my hands lower on the grip does nothing for me except introduce another variable in my ball striking prowess. With that said, I can take distance off a club by using a 9 to 3 swing. 6 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment
cnosil 26,353 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Heard about this and yes, I do this occasionally but not always as effective as I would like. I am also choking down on my short irons for pitches and chips to try and get more control. 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* set to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 5-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: T20 54-8 588 58-12 Putter: Auditions ongoing Backups: TM-180, Milled Collection RSX 2, Bellum Winmore 787, mFGP2, Directed Force 2.1 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
ZenGolfer 928 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Firebird said: Hi guys, I have suggested this to several times and were surprised that the responses were that they had never tried it. I was taught to shorten my grip as a means of closing the gap between clubs. For example with my normal grip I hit a 7 iron 155M (170yds) however by moving my hands down the grip I can vary the length by up to 8m (8.8yds) It means that I can still have a full swing, just takes a bit of getting used to holding the thinner grip. Once you get used to it it can make a huge difference particularly with shorter clubs. Is this something you do. I do it. I will sometimes grip down an inch or 2 when I want to take some distance off of a club. It allows me to use the same swing but get 5 yards less and sometimes when Im in-between clubs, its a help. 1 Quote "I suppose its better to be a master of 7 than to be vaguely familiar with 14." - Chick Evans Whats in my Sun Mountain 2.5+ stand bag? Woods: Tommy Armour Atomic 10.5* Hybrid: Mizuno MP Fli-Hi 3H Irons: Mizuno T-Zoid True 5, 7 and 9-irons Wedge: Mizuno S18 54* and Top Flite chipper Putter: Mizuno Bettinardi A-02 Ball: Maxfli Tour X Link to comment
Shankster 33,162 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Lacassem said: I do better with different swings to control distance. Like @Shankstermy grip is pretty close to the end of the grip and that’s where I like it. I have my 4 different swings for each club and that covers all my distances I need It was good enough for Trevino. He was/is pretty good. Choking up on it really lightens the SW, messes me all up. 1 Quote Link to comment
Lacassem 17,468 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 19 minutes ago, Shankster said: It was good enough for Trevino. He was/is pretty good. Choking up on it really lightens the SW, messes me all up. Same my game has changed a little but I’m trying to play to my full swing distance...I’m most comfortable “going after it” for lack of a better term 2 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review WITB: Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2019 P790 4-PW - Project X 6.5 LZ 48 (SM8), 52, 56, 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Thank you to all those that have served/are serving and God Bless America Link to comment
chaeslounge 9 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I grip down a couple inches on the grip for my wedges for awkward distances. For instance 80 yds kills me. Requires a full swing from my 58* or a 9 to 3 swing with 54*. Sometimes, I grip down on the 54* so that I can have a freer swing. My swing isn't consistent enough yet to do this with longer irons. 1 Quote Driver: Taylormade M5 9.5* Tensei Stiff Woods: Orlimar Tri-metal 13* and 17* original stiff flex shafts (also have the SF-302 iron set 2-SW) Irons: Mizuno JPX 900 Tour 3-PW Wedges: Vokey 50*, Harry Taylor 56* and 60* Putter: Bettinardi BB1 (original) Link to comment
cnosil 26,353 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Interesting reading everyone’s strategy. Basically a few ways to control distance - change the length of the club, change the length of the swing, or change the speed using a full swing. My follow on would be do you control distance with you full swing and distance wedges the same way? 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* set to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 5-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: T20 54-8 588 58-12 Putter: Auditions ongoing Backups: TM-180, Milled Collection RSX 2, Bellum Winmore 787, mFGP2, Directed Force 2.1 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
Shankster 33,162 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, cnosil said: Interesting reading everyone’s strategy. Basically a few ways to control distance - change the length of the club, change the length of the swing, or change the speed using a full swing. My follow on would be do you control distance with you full swing and distance wedges the same way? Full Shots: I used to try to extend a club rather than clubbing up. Now if I am in a weird spot I tend to swing a little lighter with the next club up... Usually a fade shape. But if I absolutely need more out of a club, I will hit a pull on purpose. Usually a little pull draw. This is my go to shot when it hits the fan. 1 Quote Link to comment
MaxEntropy 8,271 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 15 hours ago, BadgerGolfer said: I do it. I will sometimes grip down an inch or 2 when I want to take some distance off of a club. It allows me to use the same swing but get 5 yards less and sometimes when Im in-between clubs, its a help. I'm the same. I sort of have a gap in the top of my bag between 6i and 4h. 5i would theoretically be perfect, but consistency is poor. I have found that if I choke down on the 4h about an inch, it is right at decent 5i distance. 1 Quote Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: RAZR Fit TourAD something or other 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: Zipcore Black Satin 58* Putter: Stroke Lab Marxman Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x Pix Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Link to comment
russtopherb 9,772 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I tend to grip down an inch or so normally for better face contact. I'll slide down even further if I think I'm in between distances. I also normally play midsized grips, so gripping down doesn't feel as weird with those. 1 Quote In my carry bag: Mavrik Max 10.5* R Flex Evenflow RipTide Hy-Wood Launcher 5h D200 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* #10 e12 Contact Link to comment
Shapotomous 5,337 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 With irons I only grip down (and play the ball back) to lower the ball flight which does result in less distance for me. At the top of the bag I will grip down with the driver and fairway woods to get a little less distance if there is something out there I don't want to reach. 1 Quote Modern Bag: 849 Pro 9*, Hazrdous Smoke S Flex; 915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex; Snake Eyes 15*, & 23* Hybrids; JPX 900 Forged 5 - PW, PX LZ 6.0; Tour Action 49*, 53*, 57*; PX LZ 6.5 ; Ancient Anser or Heppler Fetch (depends on the week); Ball - MTB-Black; Bag - H2NO Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder Classic Bag: Driver - Persimmon; 3w - Speed Slot; 5w - Tour Block; 3 - pw - Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson; putter - bullseye standard or flange. Link to comment
GBWarPig 76 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I'm all about the different swing lengths to hit in between distances. If I was to move my hands down, then I need to change my setup to stand closer, which then changes my downswing angle, etc. -- a lot of added variables in a repeatable swing. I go with the 7:30/9/10:30 swing distances for each club, so then I know what length of swing shows what distance, and play from there. 2 Quote Driver: Mavrik Sub Zero,10°, Aldila Rogue Silver 70X 3W: Mavrik Sub Zero, 15°, Aldila Rogue Silver 70X 3H: Mavrik Sub Zero, 18°, KBS Tour Hybrid 75S 4i-PW: Mavrik Pro, +1°, True Temper Elevate Tour S, Standard Lie Wedges: SM8 - 50°/12F, 54°/14F, 58°/14K Putter: Special Select Squareback 2, 35" Ball: MTB-X Link to comment
ncwoz 2,834 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I do a combination of partial swings and choking up my grip to get in between distances. But I still haven't done a thorough enough job of documenting my full swing numbers (let along partials) to fully understand when I should be hitting which shots. That is something I plan to do next year however. Hopefully with a new set of irons in the bag 2 Quote Right Handed Driver: 9° Speedzone (HZRDUS Smoke Green 70g X-Stiff shaft) 2 Hybrid: 18° Exotics EXS Pro (Evenflow Black 6.5) (2020 MGS Official Review here) 3/Driving Iron: 18° UiHi Iron (MMT Utility TX 105g shaft) Irons: 4-GW T100 irons (Nippon Modus 120 X-Stiff shafts) (2021 MGS Official Review here) Wedges: 54° & 58° TSW Forged (Dynamic Gold S300) Putter: ER2B (2019 MGS Official Review here) Ball: MAXFLI Tour X Bag: Hoofer Lite WITB thread here Link to comment
BMart519 1,414 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 From top of grip (normal grip position) to bottom of grip is roughly 10 yards for me from any iron or swing due to the change in club head speed. Finesse wedge swing (shaft parallel) with GW is 40 yards when gripping down near steel. Grip at top end of grip - pretty close to 50 yards. Full swing with GW = ~100 yards, full swing-grip down = 90 yards, grip down and swing back to 9 o'clock = 80 yards. These 10 and 20 yard increments are consistent with my distance wedges all the way up to 9 iron. 7 and 8 iron get less consistent on the 9 o'clock swing, but gripping down still works. Experimenting with this over the winter on SC200 launch monitor in Target Mode. 8 iron test had larger distance variation on the 3/4 swings to 9 o'clock then trying to make a consistent, full swing with only 7 yards difference in average carry. On 3/4 swings that I pured and made a more aggressive swing, it produced the same distance as a full effort swing even though I was trying to hit it 10 yards shorter. Going to test other clubs and then compare full swings with grip changes to see if they are more consistent for distance control than backswing length. 2 Quote F9 Driver 9* Baffler hybrids some combo of 2H-5H APEX CF19 6-AW G700 4i, Glide 2.0 54, 58* EAS 2.0 Link to comment
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