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Can anyone recommend a loft lie machine?  Not looking to break the bank, just getting started with club fitting and looking to explained my workbench.

Driver:  :callaway-small: Callaway Mavrik Max 9° neutral weight setting - Shaft: Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI 60S, length 44.75"

Wood:  :cobra-small: Cobra King SZ 3 wood 13° - Shaft: (Stock) Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 65 Graphite

Hybrid:  :cobra-small: Cobra King SZ 19°-21° - Shaft: (Stock) UST Recoil 480 ESX F4

Irons: :cobra-small: 5-PW Cobra King SZ - Shaft: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour 105

Wedges: :vokey-small: Titleist Vokey SM8 54°, 58° - Shaft: (Stock) Wedge Flex

Putter:  :scotty-small: Scotty Cameron X12, length 34"

 :Clicgear: Rovic RV1S

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Can anyone recommend a loft lie machine?  Not looking to break the bank, just getting started with club fitting and looking to explained my workbench.

Don’t ignore the used market to save some money.

Driver:  :ping-small: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven
Fairway: :titelist-small: TS3 15*  w/Project X Hzardous Smoke
Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
                :titelist-small: 915H  24*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype        
Irons:      :honma:TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite
Wedge:  :titleist-small: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite
Putter:   :taylormade-small:TM-180

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Backups:  :odyssey-small: Milled Collection RSX 2, :seemore-small: mFGP2, :cameron-small: Futura 5W

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Mitchell and Scotland used to be the ones to get. Scotland went away and Trublue is the new version of the same. 

Filling the void until trublue came out golf  mechanix and golf works both produced models that were meant for the hobbyist. 

They offered multiple models based on the effort loft and lie adjustments the user was willing to do. 

If you are doing this on the side and dont see much traffic in this area I would look at the GM and GW mid range models or the mitchell used market. 

If you are going to jump into the adjustment game with both feet then look heavily at Trublue or Mitchel then the top end of the GM lines

Driver - 44.5" 5.0 flex 10.5 deg Graphite Design XC 6S GP MCC4+ 1 deg closed

Irons - 5-pw, GW stnd length 5.0 flex same grip 1 deg flat. Type low medium offset cavity back, no diggers

Wedges - 56 and 60 tour grind wedge spinner and mcc4+ grip 2 flat 10 and 8 in bounce

Putter - Makefield VS LH

Ball - truvis

Carried in a Sun Mountain C-130 USA bag - BE PROUD.

HC - LH but 85 is a good number, playing in Ohio.

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I have a True Blue in my garage after years of owning Mitchell Machines. The true blue will bend anything so 1 machine instead of multiple machines is why. Driver to putter, if it’s got a hosel that can be bent, the true blue will do it. 
 

that said they’re not cheap. The used market is a good place to look imo. You can buy a cheap one now or buy a good one and never have to replace it. Mitchell or True Blue would be where I’d go

In The Bag
Driver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x 
Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400

SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
LW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
Putter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"

Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo.

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I do PT club work at a driving range and have the use of an old bending machine.When and if I do buy one, it will be a Tru Blu. 

DRIVER: Cobra F9 10.5  Tensei AV Blue 65g

3W- Callway XR PRO 16 stiff

5W- Alpha- Mitsubishi Diamana  Redboard w/band

Irons- Mizuno JPX 919 Tours with S KBS Tour shafts

Hyrbid- TM 4h mid-rescue

Vokey- Vokey SM5 51 degrees,  SM7 Wedges 54 and 58 1/2 half 3 degrees upright

Putter- Taylor Made Rossa Monza Mini Spider

Ball-ProV1 and AVX

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+1 on the True Blue or Mitchell. Both excellent machines with their own benefits, but only if you're serious about club making. If you're not, you may want to consider saving a lot on another cheaper alternative (Golfsmith for example).

When it comes to bending, don't neglect your tools either. As far as I'm concerned, the Mitchell adjustable is the best by far.

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On 12/10/2020 at 12:13 PM, dm4 said:

Try Golfworks I use the this one below and it does everything a hobbyist needs.

 

https://www.golfworks.com/golf-mechanix-clubmakers-loft-and-lie-bending-gauge/p/gm1036/

I have the full stand up version of this.  Works great for my needs.  

WITB:  Do I like Titleist or what? 

 

Driver:     :titleist-small: TSR3 9* UST Mamiya Proto LIN-Q Blue 

Fairways   :titleist-small: TSi2 UST Mamiya LIN-Q Blue 13.5* 

Driving Iron:   :titleist-small: U500 17* :Fuji:  Blue Ventus HB Velocore 

Irons   :titleist-small: T350 4 & 5, T200 6 - PW UST Mamiya Recoil Dart F4 105g

Wedges    :vokey-small: SM6 48*, SM9 52*, SM8 56* Modus Tour Wedge 

Putter    :cameron-small: Newport 2 w/ Garsen Ultimate grip 

Ball    :titleist-small:  *ProV1 Left Dot

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@McGolf - say budget is $1k or less excluding the stand and accessories. what machine would you go with?

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Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Updated 07/15/2022
Driver:callaway-small: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex
Fairway Woods:callaway-small: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood
Irons:mizuno-small: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip
Wedges:ping-small: Glide 4.0 54 and 58
Putter:  :ping-small: PLD Custom Kushin 4

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The Golfwork model I mentioned to fixurdivot would be be the choice at about $800.

However I would also look at Golf Mechanix.  The reverse thrust machine is probably the best outside the mitchell / trublue units.

 

Driver - 44.5" 5.0 flex 10.5 deg Graphite Design XC 6S GP MCC4+ 1 deg closed

Irons - 5-pw, GW stnd length 5.0 flex same grip 1 deg flat. Type low medium offset cavity back, no diggers

Wedges - 56 and 60 tour grind wedge spinner and mcc4+ grip 2 flat 10 and 8 in bounce

Putter - Makefield VS LH

Ball - truvis

Carried in a Sun Mountain C-130 USA bag - BE PROUD.

HC - LH but 85 is a good number, playing in Ohio.

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If I don't get a good trade in price then I "may" have a near new TourGage Mitchell machine to sell as I might upgrade to digital. Nothing works better then to be able to point to a digital display to show a number to a customer.

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Can you contact Mitchell for them to upgrade the current unit? 

The green platform is very cool

Driver - 44.5" 5.0 flex 10.5 deg Graphite Design XC 6S GP MCC4+ 1 deg closed

Irons - 5-pw, GW stnd length 5.0 flex same grip 1 deg flat. Type low medium offset cavity back, no diggers

Wedges - 56 and 60 tour grind wedge spinner and mcc4+ grip 2 flat 10 and 8 in bounce

Putter - Makefield VS LH

Ball - truvis

Carried in a Sun Mountain C-130 USA bag - BE PROUD.

HC - LH but 85 is a good number, playing in Ohio.

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On 9/1/2021 at 8:51 PM, Drop Zone Golf said:

If I don't get a good trade in price then I "may" have a near new TourGage Mitchell machine to sell as I might upgrade to digital. Nothing works better then to be able to point to a digital display to show a number to a customer.

IMG_4541.jpg

I would be potentially interested if you are selling. 

Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver

Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Updated 07/15/2022
Driver:callaway-small: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex
Fairway Woods:callaway-small: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood
Irons:mizuno-small: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip
Wedges:ping-small: Glide 4.0 54 and 58
Putter:  :ping-small: PLD Custom Kushin 4

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Loft lie machines are going like hot cakes right now. Used ones are going for not much less than new ones. Mitchell refurbished waitlist is 40 people deep. 

Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver

Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Updated 07/15/2022
Driver:callaway-small: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex
Fairway Woods:callaway-small: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood
Irons:mizuno-small: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip
Wedges:ping-small: Glide 4.0 54 and 58
Putter:  :ping-small: PLD Custom Kushin 4

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Been doing more research recently especially on pricing. The $800 Golfworks/Golf Mechanix machine ends up being almost the same price (at least in the same realm) as the Mitchell entry level machine. The Mitchell is like $1550 including shipping. The Golfworks does not come with a stand or bending bar. Add in the stand, bending bar, shipping, and tax, you get to about $1400 (where i live has pretty high sales tax). The Mitchell price includes stand and bending bar. 

Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver

Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Updated 07/15/2022
Driver:callaway-small: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex
Fairway Woods:callaway-small: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood
Irons:mizuno-small: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip
Wedges:ping-small: Glide 4.0 54 and 58
Putter:  :ping-small: PLD Custom Kushin 4

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4 hours ago, dlow206 said:

Been doing more research recently especially on pricing. The $800 Golfworks/Golf Mechanix machine ends up being almost the same price (at least in the same realm) as the Mitchell entry level machine. The Mitchell is like $1550 including shipping. The Golfworks does not come with a stand or bending bar. Add in the stand, bending bar, shipping, and tax, you get to about $1400 (where i live has pretty high sales tax). The Mitchell price includes stand and bending bar. 

Yup, they are pretty close when you include the extras.  I just can't justify that much money for occasional, hobbyist use and will just keep hoping a good used option comes along... and you don't get it first 🤣.

:ping-small: G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver 

:ping-small: G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w

:ping-small: G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w

:srixon-small:  ZX5 Irons 4-AW 

:ping-small: Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW   (removed from double secret probation 😍)

:EVNROLL: ER5v Putter  (Evnroll ER5v Official Review)

:odyssey-small: AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test)

 

 

 

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So yeah, i had this internal debate between Mitchell and MR3. Where i landed:

- Mitchell Steelclub angle iron machine
- MR3 Putter bending machine

That's what happens when you are indecisive between brands when you are me... 😂

Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver

Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Updated 07/15/2022
Driver:callaway-small: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex
Fairway Woods:callaway-small: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood
Irons:mizuno-small: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip
Wedges:ping-small: Glide 4.0 54 and 58
Putter:  :ping-small: PLD Custom Kushin 4

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not sure the difference but doesnt the MR group make a machine that is an all in one? including putters?

Driver - 44.5" 5.0 flex 10.5 deg Graphite Design XC 6S GP MCC4+ 1 deg closed

Irons - 5-pw, GW stnd length 5.0 flex same grip 1 deg flat. Type low medium offset cavity back, no diggers

Wedges - 56 and 60 tour grind wedge spinner and mcc4+ grip 2 flat 10 and 8 in bounce

Putter - Makefield VS LH

Ball - truvis

Carried in a Sun Mountain C-130 USA bag - BE PROUD.

HC - LH but 85 is a good number, playing in Ohio.

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On 1/10/2022 at 5:09 AM, McGolf said:

not sure the difference but doesnt the MR group make a machine that is an all in one? including putters?

Yes, I talked to MR3 about the True Blue that is an all in one. It can't bend the really big mallets, i think they said up to 3" in diameters.

This is how the True Blue clamps

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Here is the standalone putter bending machine

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Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver

Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Updated 07/15/2022
Driver:callaway-small: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex
Fairway Woods:callaway-small: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood
Irons:mizuno-small: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip
Wedges:ping-small: Glide 4.0 54 and 58
Putter:  :ping-small: PLD Custom Kushin 4

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On 12/14/2020 at 9:07 AM, McGolf said:

Mitchell and Scotland used to be the ones to get. Scotland went away and Trublue is the new version of the same. 

Filling the void until trublue came out golf  mechanix and golf works both produced models that were meant for the hobbyist. 

They offered multiple models based on the effort loft and lie adjustments the user was willing to do. 

If you are doing this on the side and dont see much traffic in this area I would look at the GM and GW mid range models or the mitchell used market. 

If you are going to jump into the adjustment game with both feet then look heavily at Trublue or Mitchel then the top end of the GM lines

Jim  What's the real difference between GM, TruBlue and Mitchell?

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Mitchell is a work horse, Ive had mine for 20 yrs. 

The trublue is the scotland type equivalent. THe folks that have them seem to love them.

GM model is very much a Scotland like unit that is more affordable. I cant attest to the longevity because ive never  used them. However, they dont make junk

 

Driver - 44.5" 5.0 flex 10.5 deg Graphite Design XC 6S GP MCC4+ 1 deg closed

Irons - 5-pw, GW stnd length 5.0 flex same grip 1 deg flat. Type low medium offset cavity back, no diggers

Wedges - 56 and 60 tour grind wedge spinner and mcc4+ grip 2 flat 10 and 8 in bounce

Putter - Makefield VS LH

Ball - truvis

Carried in a Sun Mountain C-130 USA bag - BE PROUD.

HC - LH but 85 is a good number, playing in Ohio.

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