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I know this is a favorite ball of many of our readers.  Share your thoughts below.  I'm sure there will be several, considering the outcome. 

https://mygolfspy.com/ball-lab-srixon-q-star-tour-golf-ball-review/

 

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Whoa.

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This was painful to read. I've stuck by this ball as my urethane choice but these results are eye opening. These are some pretty big inconsistencies. 

It'll really be interesting to see how Srixon responds to this.

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18 minutes ago, russtopherb said:

This was painful to read. I've stuck by this ball as my urethane choice but these results are eye opening. These are some pretty big inconsistencies. 

It'll really be interesting to see how Srixon responds to this.

I tried this ball and didn't care for it.

It's nice the MGS is looking out for the consumer and holding OEMs accountable for quality.  

Srixon is a great company.  I would expect no less than what Callaway did with the Chrome Soft.

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3 minutes ago, Kenny B said:

I tried this ball and didn't care for it.

It's nice the MGS is looking out for the consumer and holding OEMs accountable for quality.  

Srixon is a great company.  I would expect no less than what Callaway did with the Chrome Soft.

I also would hope that the response would be the same... however Callaway was looking at big concerns with QC on their flagship ball. The QST is a solid ball for Srixon but probably not close to the top of what they're selling. 

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yikes, this was eye opening.  glad i only paid $20/dozen for the two boxes i picked up.

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I was surprised with the results of this ball lab evaluation, I am truly disappointing with the general defects of the Srixon balls that were tested.

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never played this ball but the members of MGS forum seem to really like them so was going to give them a try but not sure about now 😵

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I didn't have an opinion on Srixon balls, but I do now, "and not in a good way..." I found one a while ago, guess I'll put it back where I found it (in the deep rough).

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I just evaluated that ball. I thought it went well. Certainly not worth the retail price but the BOGO deals make it appealing

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OUCH!

That's rough.  I have never played this one but I know some that do.

Maybe that's why they do the BOGO deals, so you can get a good dozen out of two.

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I am in love with the Ball Lab series. I have tried playing Srixon balls at every level, and have never liked them. The covers always get damaged and they seem to lack consistent flight across the box. I, like many of you, have picked them up in the buy one get one promotions, but after the last time, I knew that was it. I find it interesting the balls I have preferred have come out on the better end of the ball lab testing, while balls like this and the Chrome soft have performed at a lower level. While I would like to think of myself as a hitting machine, thats probably not the case, so I really feel like these tests are real deal. Thanks, MGS for providing the data to keep us in the fairway. 👍

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This is a confidence shaker in the brand. Be interested to see the results of the other balls from Srixon.

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Shocking and really head-scratching.  I've heard Tony several times on No Putts Given comment on Titleist, Bridgestone, and Srixon as being the "premier" OEMs in the premium ball space.  If the Q-Star has these kind of issues it definitely begs the question, what about the Z Star?

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The thing that shocks me isn't the layer issues or what not, I expect those from time to time. But roundness being an issue is a stunner. At the very least that seems like that shouldn't be a question, and yet here we are.

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15 minutes ago, Berg Ryman said:

The thing that shocks me isn't the layer issues or what not, I expect those from time to time. But roundness being an issue is a stunner. At the very least that seems like that shouldn't be a question, and yet here we are.

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I'm definitely surprised by this.  I'm equally concerned as to how all Srixon balls will fare and by how other balls in the value urethane category will fare.  

Over my year of playing only this ball I saw some odd flights, but always blamed that on growing and learning.  I had even had some similar flights out of Tour balls and just blamed it on my swing.  I switched recently to Z Stars and saw a big improvement in my game and now I see some of the factors behind it.

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I hope the Z Stars get better results.

I may have misread, but was IBCR weighted the same for all the previous ball tests? I understand that the standard deviation was far worse here, but I want to know if those same deviations in IBCR contributed to the overall % of bad balls in the previous tests.


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It seems to be a little unfair to not do the z star as the first Srixon ball. All others have been the premium balls, but this is more of a "budget" ball. So until we see that the results of the other balls from this category from the other company's, and the results of a premium Srixon ball I'm not sure it's fair to judge every OEM from only one ball being tested.

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6 minutes ago, 2puttbogey said:

It seems to be a little unfair to not do the z star as the first Srixon ball. All others have been the premium balls, but this is more of a "budget" ball. So until we see that the results of the other balls from this category from the other company's, and the results of a premium Srixon ball I'm not sure it's fair to judge every OEM from only one ball being tested.

Not sure I agree with that.  The test is specific to the model.  They tested the Pro V1; that doesn't mean (nor do they suggest) that the findings from that test apply to the Velocity, Tour Soft, etc.  Similarly, this doesn't in and of itself mean a Z Star must have roundness issues too.  it simply means a Q Star Tour does, and yes, "antennas up" for when Z Star gets tested.

Put simply, MGS has never suggested we should draw conclusions about Srixon as a whole, just this ball.

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5 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said:

Not sure I agree with that.  The test is specific to the model.  They tested the Pro V1; that doesn't mean (nor do they suggest) that the findings from that test apply to the Velocity, Tour Soft, etc.  Similarly, this doesn't in and of itself mean a Z Star must have roundness issues too.  it simply means a Q Star Tour does, and yes, "antennas up" for when Z Star gets tested.

Put simply, MGS has never suggested we should draw conclusions about Srixon as a whole, just this ball.

Agreed. The QST is a pretty popular ball, and MGS from what I've seen is looking to do a wide cross-section of balls in their testing. There's nothing unfair about that, at all.

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1 hour ago, 2puttbogey said:

It seems to be a little unfair to not do the z star as the first Srixon ball. All others have been the premium balls, but this is more of a "budget" ball. So until we see that the results of the other balls from this category from the other company's, and the results of a premium Srixon ball I'm not sure it's fair to judge every OEM from only one ball being tested.

Tony has said early on the order of testing was as much determined by the popularity of use of ball by the readers and public in general.  I think if we were to have access to Srixon sales numbers, we'd see the Q Star/Q Star Tour is probably the biggest selling ball link it's lineup 

Titleist is know for it's Tour line ProV so that's what everyone wanted to see,  Srixon Z Star while a very good ball, is not really the first ball that comes to mind for the company when you factor in ALL golfers, not just forum readers which is really like 1% of the golf playing market. 

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55 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said:

Not sure I agree with that.  The test is specific to the model.  They tested the Pro V1; that doesn't mean (nor do they suggest) that the findings from that test apply to the Velocity, Tour Soft, etc.  Similarly, this doesn't in and of itself mean a Z Star must have roundness issues too.  it simply means a Q Star Tour does, and yes, "antennas up" for when Z Star gets tested.

Put simply, MGS has never suggested we should draw conclusions about Srixon as a whole, just this ball.

This was not a hot take of MGS, it's about some of the reactions and judgment made about Srixon, when Titlist and others may have similar issues. 

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18 minutes ago, 2puttbogey said:

This was not a hot take of MGS, it's about some of the reactions and judgment made about Srixon, when Titlist and others may have similar issues. 

I understand that, I'm simply saying I don't think it's accurate to call it "unfair" of Tony or MGS to not test Srixon's premium ball first.  They tested a premium ball from Titleist and Bridgestone because, as @Golfspy_CG2points out, those are the big volume balls...the Pro V1 and the Tour B XS "Tiger Ball".  If anyone walked away from those tests assuming the evaluations applied to all Titleist balls or all Bridgestone balls, then they drastically missed the point and are making some big inferences. Similarly, one shouldn't make blanket assumptions about all Srixon balls now.

MGS' decision to select and prioritize testing based on volume of sales is consistent with their intent to focus on the consumer and do what's most helpful to the consumer.  Put another way, fairness to the consumer before fairness to the OEM. (And again, I don't see how this is unfair.)

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Doesn’t look good for Srixon, but I still don’t know what these results mean for the person playing the Q-star. Another archer vs arrow debate I’m sure.


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1 minute ago, Micah T said:

Doesn’t look good for Srixon, but I still don’t know what these results mean for the person playing the Q-star. Another archer vs arrow debate I’m sure.


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I don't know, kind of settles the debate in this case.  If the ball isn't round, you could have a great read, great contact, great pace, and great line, and still miss!  That's an arrow problem all the way.

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9 minutes ago, Micah T said:

Doesn’t look good for Srixon, but I still don’t know what these results mean for the person playing the Q-star. Another archer vs arrow debate I’m sure.


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This has been my point all along. However the rest of the tests come out there is now a bias against the quality of Srixon in general for some people. Even if the tour speed, pro response, and others in this category are similar, and the z star is just as quality as the pro v and tp5 the initial perception has already been established for some.

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2 minutes ago, 2puttbogey said:

This has been my point all along. However the rest of the tests come out there is now a bias against the quality of Srixon in general for some people. Even if the tour speed, pro response, and others in this category are similar, and the z star is just as quality as the pro v and tp5 the initial perception has already been established for some.

I don't think this is the case at all

Coincidental note.

I met with a company rep today that its  ball is one of the "Big Boys" He came into my office literally an hour or so after I read the report.   We talked about the results and his companies results in the test.  And he thinks the Z Star is a very  good ball and is interested to see how it fairs.

But he brought up a very good point.  The average Joe consumer that buys golf balls will never see or hear about this report or any of the Ball Lab reports.  They aren't on forums.  And those of us that are on the forums and read these reports are in tune with the industry enough to know there is a difference between the Z-Star and Q Star manufacturing process.   And it's fair to say the majority on here will not hold this test against Srixon as a whole or judge the Z Star by this, we'll wait and see the report for it.

 

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:titelist-small: T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 

:titelist-small: SM10 48F/54M and58K

:ping-small: S159 48S/52S/56W/60B

:scotty-cameron-1: Select 5.5 Flowback 35" 

:titelist-small: ProV1  Play number 12

 

 

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