2020 Official Member Review: Titleist TSi Drivers

[dlow206 5,206]

Throwing out something here for fun. Anyone want to guess what shaft that I am fitted into tomorrow during the fitting (shaft, flex, weight), based on the info I provided about my game? I will give away a small prize for who ever guesses the right (or closest) shaft.

You can assume the shafts will be from this list: https://www.titleist.com/golf-clubs/golf-drivers/tsi2

[Getoffmylawn 2,077]

6 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

Throwing out something here for fun. Anyone want to guess what shaft that I am fitted into tomorrow during the fitting (shaft, flex, weight), based on the info I provided about my game? I will give away a small prize for who ever guesses the right (or closest) shaft.

You can assume the shafts will be from this list: https://www.titleist.com/golf-clubs/golf-drivers/tsi2

That's an awesome way to generate some traffic on the thread, nice.

You don't think any custom shaft options will be available to you?  (Forgive me if that was in the text somewhere...I didn't apply.)

I'll go Tensei AV Blue RAW in the 55 model (58g) stiff.  No "prize" necessary, unless it's the club after you're done testing!

[dlow206 5,206]

1 minute ago, Getoffmylawn said:

That's an awesome way to generate some traffic on the thread, nice.

You don't think any custom shaft options will be available to you?  (Forgive me if that was in the text somewhere...I didn't apply.)

I'll go Tensei AV Blue RAW in the 55 model (58g) stiff.  No "prize" necessary, unless it's the club after you're done testing!

Its possible that custom shaft options may be available but not confirmed as of now. For the purposes of this quick contest, we will keep it to the core shaft list in that link.

[Golfspy_CG2 25,115]

Well I suppose most of you know about my role here, if you don't then that means I'm like a good referee, I do my job and you don't notice me. 

But in short for the new members: My name is Rob/Robert either one is fine.  I have been on MGS for 4 years now, and am my third year of serving in an administrator role, one year as a moderator and the past 18 months as Forum Director along with Golfspy_Studque.   My full time job is the Tournament Director of a golf course in Maryland.   

I get the opportunity to try and or buy a lot of equipment, and I take full advantage of it. Matter of fact during my fitting video with IAN on TXG, we joked about that.  I was afraid he was going to give me hell, but he thought it was great.  

While I will play just about anything that has a grip and head on it, it's not secret that my "home brand" if you will is Titleist.  But PING, Mizuno, TM, Callaway, Srixon, Wilson, PXG  and Cobra have all had a spot in the bag at some point or another.    So needless to say, I'm thrilled to be part of this testing.

I'm not the longest hitter, maybe 210 off the tee, and my handicap has moved as often as my bag setup has.  As high as 22 at the beginning of 2018 to a low of 15.9 at the end of last year.  This year, due to COVID and a course that is so damn busy I can't even get a tee time as an employee, I haven't played as much and didn't register an official index this year....I know shame on me.   I'll change that in 2021 as I hope to play a few tournaments, that I didn't this year.

What I hope to accomplish in this testing:

As I enter my 6th decade, I believe I'm the second most "experienced" golfer in this testing, in which I gladly bow to our esteemed RickP on that honor.  I don't expect to magically find 30 more yards with this driver.  But here is what I'm really hoping for.  I'm taking a pretty solid driver in my TS1 into the fitting.  I have had it since it's release last June when it unseated the stalwart PING G410+ , and while others...MAVRIK Sub Zero, Cobra SZ Extreme have had some time in the bag, the TS1 has been the one nothing could beat.  Not so much in distance, as I'm pretty sure you can put any driver in my hand and it's going to go 190 on the short end and 225 on the long end and no more.  But it has been the most consistent.  During my last 72 holes, I hit an amazing 49/56 fairways.    Now all the raving about the TS1 said, I know I am generating too much spin with it.   Often times, the ball leaves the clubface like it's going to go a mile--or at least 250 yards, and it settles softly into the 190 to 210 territory.   I have some idea, but not concrete proof, that I am getting way too much spin off this head/shaft combo.   

So I'm anxious to see what the guys at Titleist Thursday--tomorrow afternoon-can do to put a better combo in my hands. 

 

[TSauer 4,085]

Sporadic /spəˈradik/ : occurring at irregular intervals or only in a few places; scattered or isolated.

That sorta sums up my results when I try to let the "big dog" eat. Driver is one of those clubs I work on all season to try and perfect it and I get right where I want to be, then old man winter decides to drop by for a few months, and the process begins again. I envy those of you who to get golf year-round. The positive side is, each year has started off better than the last and I think the future is looking bright for the driver... or maybe that's just me being hopeful. Time will tell. 

I currently play around a 10 handicap, and I'm most certain that driver plays a big role in lowering that number. A Callaway Mavrik was put in my bag at the end of the summer, which I haven't got a lot of rounds in with, before that I gamed a G400 Max which I really enjoyed. I typically play a slight fade, which is the shot shape I prefer so I haven't tried to change that just yet. The only problem is, as we know, some of those can turn into the dreaded slice. Fun right? My quick tempo plays a big role in that, and it's something I'm trying to work on. I've gotta slow things dooooown. 

Now I know technology isn't going to fix my game drastically and make me a scratch golfer, but I'm hoping the TSi can nudge me just enough to get me out of the dreaded driver rut. I've never been huge on club adjustments as far as weights and draw/fade bias setting and I've always tried to keep things simple.. but that all may change this year   I'm really just wanting the TSi to bring more consistency to my game. I'll gladly take accuracy over distance and maybe the TSi3 will allow me to tinker just enough for that to happen. We'll see. 

[Rickp 20,702]

Short statement, I haven’t had a Driver I really liked since a Ping i20 I got 2nd hand as a throw in in a trade years ago. The i20 has an aftermarket Mitsubishi shaft that I loved. The head cracked and that was that.
Now, I’m “wishing and hoping” (little plagiarism) that the Titleist TSi2 may be the perfect replacement, maybe.
I did have a chance to hit this club the other day (more on that later) and with correct shaft it may be the one.
Stay tuned all the Testers are revved up and ready to go


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[HeathS16 1,426]

Ok, I am going to limit myself to bullet points just like @dlow206, otherwise you will be reading a novel as long as War and Peace and while I am no Tolstoy, you can certainly find many of my students who will say I can come down with the occasional case of "verbal vomit". That being said, here we go: 

• My name is Heath, I am 29 and I have been a member of Mygolfspy for 4 years. My handicap is currently sitting at a 7.9 and has been as high as a 10.8 this year....tough early season.
• Back in 2018 I was fitted for my current gamer, a Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero in 8.5 degrees and a HZRDUS Smoke Stiff Shaft. The fitting led to some of my best driving numbers ever. 
• My driving stats honestly don't look great. I miss a lot of fairways and have been fighting a nasty hook for most of this season.  Fortunately, as of late (last two months or so) I have had a better run with the driver. I have been hitting a few more fairways and the ones I miss are just off or they are starting to run through the fairways, which is a good sign. 
• On average my numbers are as follows- 263 carry and around 290 total yards off the tee, these are some baseline numbers I got this month off of a Trackman with my current gamer. I usually get some good roll due to my draw. 

What I would like to see out of the TSi: 

• I am going into the fitting tomorrow pretty openminded but I do have some specific goals in mind for the TSi.  
• On a trackman my average ball speed is around 155.8, I would REALLY love for this to get to 160 with the TSi, with the shaft options and the new from the face and weighting system I think this is doable. 
• Obviously everyone will always say they want more distance with a driver.  I would love to see some yardage added by the TSi but as long as it is similar to my Epic Flash I'm ok with it. 
• The most important thing for me though is the number of fairways I am able to hit.  I really need that number to go up as it is sometimes very difficult to feel in control of my tee shots as accuracy is an issue at times. 
• My typical miss is a hook and I am hoping that the rounded off crown of the TSi will inspire me with confidence to NOT hook it. 

 

I will update this thread tomorrow after the fitting! 

[dlow206 5,206]

I forgot the most basic thing in my intro, my name is Derrick if you didn't know that already.

I have been giving some thought to metrics that i plan to track as part of this test. Besides distance, I want to track playable shots off the tee. Maybe there is a better name or actual name for this, but what i mean is that fairways in regulation is not that important to me. A "playable" shot for me could be in the fairway or in the rough, but the second shot needs to have a chance to be either hit onto the green in regulation or a reasonable lay-up distance on a par 5. Anything that is OB, hazard, requires a punch out, etc., counts against this metric for me. I also think if i top a shot and it lands in the fairway but i only hit it 50 yards, that should also count against, even though its in the fairway.

[sirchunksalot 8,797]

4 hours ago, dlow206 said:

Throwing out something here for fun. Anyone want to guess what shaft that I am fitted into tomorrow during the fitting (shaft, flex, weight), based on the info I provided about my game? I will give away a small prize for who ever guesses the right (or closest) shaft.

You can assume the shafts will be from this list: https://www.titleist.com/golf-clubs/golf-drivers/tsi2

This is a complete guess, but I'll assume you'll be looking for something with a bit higher launch, so I'll go with this:

Great start to the thread guys, this should be interesting. The new face material is intriguing. 

[Golfspy_CG2 25,115]

52 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

I forgot the most basic thing in my intro, my name is Derrick if you didn't know that already.

I have been giving some thought to metrics that i plan to track as part of this test. Besides distance, I want to track playable shots off the tee. Maybe there is a better name or actual name for this, but what i mean is that fairways in regulation is not that important to me. A "playable" shot for me could be in the fairway or in the rough, but the second shot needs to have a chance to be either hit onto the green in regulation or a reasonable lay-up distance on a par 5. Anything that is OB, hazard, requires a punch out, etc., counts against this metric for me. I also think if i top a shot and it lands in the fairway but i only hit it 50 yards, that should also count against, even though its in the fairway.

I did something very similar with a stat i created a couple years ago-RGIR—meaning Realistic Greens in Regulation.  
So if i was behind a tree, or was 200 plus out on a par 4, i had no chance to reach either of those greens   But if i was in the fairway or light rough 130 yards out, that is a RGIR. So i tracked my stats on those to get an idea of my iron play  

 

 

 

[Rickp 20,702]

I did something very similar with a stat i created a couple years ago-RGIR—meaning Realistic Greens in Regulation.  
So if i was behind a tree, or was 200 plus out on a par 4, i had no chance to reach either of those greens   But if i was in the fairway or light rough 130 yards out, that is a RGIR. So i tracked my stats on those to get an idea of my iron play  
 
 
 

That makes sense, I like it.


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[alfriday101 929]

 

I am excited for my driver fitting tomorrow at Titleist Thursday.  

 

I joined the MGS forums in 2015.  I have applied to be a tester a few times, but this is the first time I’ve been chosen.  I only apply to test items in which I am genuinely interested and would consider purchasing.  The Titleist TSi drivers fit that bill.  

 

I currently play a Big Bertha Fusion driver.  10.5 degrees, Mamiya Recoil 450 ES, F3 shaft.  (56 grams).  According to Mamiya, this is a mid to high launch shaft and the ES stands for “enhanced stability for more control and feel.” 

 

I am a big believer in getting fit for clubs, so naturally, I did not get fit for the BB Fusion driver.  I had an acquaintance that played this driver and loved it.  I hit his when playing one round with him, and then borrowed it for a weekend.   I liked the way it performed so I started looking for one.  I found one used on Callaway Pre-owned for a good price.  I have been happily playing it for four years.  (Albeit, I did play a different driver with a 42-inch shaft for a short while in there.) 

 

Titleist drivers weren’t on my radar until they came out with the TS drivers.  Sea change for Titleist?  It sounded like they were (finally) making products geared more for me.  I figured I would wait for the next generation of TS drivers to come out and then (after demoing) pickup a new-but-discounted or used TS.  Then I read the reviews of the TSi drivers.  Okay, I was intrigued.  Higher MOI from top to bottom as well as heel to toe?  Interesting.  Tell me more.  TSi moved up to become a must demo driver for 2021.  Imagine my delight when I was chosen to test the TSi driver for MGS.  

 

I’m 62 years old and not exactly a long hitter.  My average drive is 221 and my P-average is 254, according to Shotscope.  Those numbers are from rounds in Iowa, elevation 1200 feet.  I will be doing the testing in Florida, elevation 18 feet.  I am generally one club shorter in Florida due to elevation and the heavier air near the gulf.

 

From my current driver choice, you can surmise that I value forgiveness and finding fairways or the first cut of rough in a driver.  Distance is great, but I want the shot caught slightly on the heel or toe to be pretty close to one caught flush.  If you look up “High MOI” in the dictionary, there is a picture of the Fusion.   It will be interesting to see how the Titleist compares.  

 

A lot has changed since the Fusion came out in 2016.  My average score in 2016 was 95.  This summer, it was 81.  I have worked diligently to lose some weight and to increase my strength and flexibility.  (Regular Yoga sessions help a lot!)  I have been working to improve my skills in all aspects of the game.    

 

Will the Titleist TSi bump the BB Fusion out of my bag?  Stay tuned.     

 

Allen  (alfriday101)   

 

      

[Lacassem 8,179]

5 hours ago, dlow206 said:

Throwing out something here for fun. Anyone want to guess what shaft that I am fitted into tomorrow during the fitting (shaft, flex, weight), based on the info I provided about my game? I will give away a small prize for who ever guesses the right (or closest) shaft.

You can assume the shafts will be from this list: https://www.titleist.com/golf-clubs/golf-drivers/tsi2

Love it.

just winging this one and going with the AD DI. Seems like you’re looking for a little higher launch and little more roll. Not knowing what your tempo or swing speed is this is my best guess with a stiffer tip and a softer middle.

 

[Shankster 25,589]

Alan

South... oh bugger

Can’t wait to follow along here Gentlemen.  2021 is going to be the year of the Driver for me, my current gamer and tee game in general needs improvement.  It’s what is holding me back from some really low scores. 

Need some good real world results, frankly I’m sick of the YouTube video reviews... it’s just wash rinse repeat.  Blah blah blah... 

 

[Golfspy_CG2 25,115]

3 minutes ago, Shankster said:

Need some good real world results, frankly I’m sick of the YouTube video reviews... it’s just wash rinse repeat.  Blah blah blah... 

 

Well. As you no doubt know, thats what our testers here provide. 

[Shankster 25,589]

Just now, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Well. As you no doubt know, thats what our testers here provide. 

Absolutely!  Can’t wait for the chatter to pick up in this thread.  
 

I think I said somewhere else, I normally just glance T the drivers.  But they put some subliminal message on this one, that face has to where it is.  Maybe a little on the sole too.  

[Rickp 20,702]

Absolutely!  Can’t wait for the chatter to pick up in this thread.  
 
I think I said somewhere else, I normally just glance T the drivers.  But they put some subliminal message on this one, that face has to where it is.  Maybe a little on the sole too.  

I think there will be plenty of chirping when we get our paws on these babies.


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[Shankster 25,589]

1 minute ago, Rickp said:

I think there will be plenty of chirping when we get our paws on these babies.


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Looking forward to it Rick.  
 

Just please avoid any pictures of the face of the driver... that message is in there I know it.  (Kidding of course)

[dlow206 5,206]

6 hours ago, Getoffmylawn said:

That's an awesome way to generate some traffic on the thread, nice.

You don't think any custom shaft options will be available to you?  (Forgive me if that was in the text somewhere...I didn't apply.)

I'll go Tensei AV Blue RAW in the 55 model (58g) stiff.  No "prize" necessary, unless it's the club after you're done testing!

The Tensei AV Blue seems like it should be a good contender for me.

1 hour ago, sirchunksalot said:

This is a complete guess, but I'll assume you'll be looking for something with a bit higher launch, so I'll go with this:

Great start to the thread guys, this should be interesting. The new face material is intriguing. 

With these mid/high launching shafts, it will definitely be interesting to see if it does in fact help increase my launch. My Ventus Red says it is a "mid-high" launch, but even Fujikura stated that it is more mid and only slightly higher than the Blue. 

1 hour ago, Lacassem said:

Love it.

just winging this one and going with the AD DI. Seems like you’re looking for a little higher launch and little more roll. Not knowing what your tempo or swing speed is this is my best guess with a stiffer tip and a softer middle.

 

This also seems like a good pick. The thing I find interesting about GD shafts is GDs own classification of their shafts. Seems like many of their shafts are listed as "High" launch and "Low" spin. I think Titleist did a better job with their classifications than GD does.

[Rickp 20,702]

Interesting guesses for dlow, see happens.
Mines done and my Ole Guy swing should be easy.


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