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1 hour ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

I did something very similar with a stat i created a couple years ago-RGIR—meaning Realistic Greens in Regulation.  
So if i was behind a tree, or was 200 plus out on a par 4, i had no chance to reach either of those greens   But if i was in the fairway or light rough 130 yards out, that is a RGIR. So i tracked my stats on those to get an idea of my iron play  

 

 

 

I am stealing this! As nature hates me on even some of my best drives. 

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Driver:  :callaway-small: Epic Flash Sub Zero (8.5* HZRDUS Smoke Shaft)

3-wood:  :adams-small:  Tight Lies 2 (15*) 

5-Wood:  :adams-small: Tight Lies 2 (19*) 

Irons :  :ping-small: i210 5-PW

Wedges:  :cleveland-small:  RTX-4 50* and 54* RTX-3 *58

Putter::1332069271_TommyArmour: Impact No. 3

Ball:  MAXFLI TOUR or a :srixon-small: Z-Star

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@Golfspy_CG2 and the fine folks at Titleist have set me up to get fitted here tomorrow...I am officially the luckiest SOB on this site! MUCH more to come very soon...

Review and results of my fitting on 10/22/2020 Showed up to my Titleist Thursday fitting at the Golf Club at Newcastle about 20 minutes early. Skipped warm-up with irons, so went straight to warm

I am not going to lie people, this post has taken me a long time to write and post.  This is not a bad thing, I simply could not find the words to describe what happened this afternoon at 3 pm central

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Hopefully all the testers get fitted for their drivers.  I will be interested to know if any/all of the fitters bring up shaft length - and more specifically shorter "tour" length.  

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8 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

Hopefully all the testers get fitted for their drivers.  I will be interested to know if any/all of the fitters bring up shaft length - and more specifically shorter "tour" length.  

I am definitely going to bring up shaft length tomorrow with the fitter if he doesn't bring it up. 

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I am stealing this! As nature hates me on even some of my best drives. 

Yup, I really like a statistic that means something to me.


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I am definitely going to bring up shaft length tomorrow with the fitter if he doesn't bring it up. 

Yes... wait to see if he/she brings it up first.  I'm curious whether the "shorten em up" movement is growing. 🙂  Currently reading Tom Wishon's "Search for the Perfect Golf Club" and he was onto this excessive shaft length at least 15 years ago.

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1 hour ago, fixyurdivot said:

Hopefully all the testers get fitted for their drivers.  I will be interested to know if any/all of the fitters bring up shaft length - and more specifically shorter "tour" length.  

I will definitely be bringing this up at my fitting tomorrow. If I hadn’t gotten picked for this test, my next and final try with my Epic was going to be to cut it a half inch shorter to 44.5” before giving up on it completely. My irons are standard length but I play a 42.5” 3 wood and I love it, so I wonder if it would translate to the driver. 

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15 hours ago, fixyurdivot said:

Hopefully all the testers get fitted for their drivers.  I will be interested to know if any/all of the fitters bring up shaft length - and more specifically shorter "tour" length.  

That is something I'll be interested to see if he addresses with me or not.  Most fitters don't seem to bring it up for me, maybe the fact I'm 6'4" has something to do with it.   But way back in the day, I hit a friends driver that was I think 43 maybe 44 inches and it felt noticeably shorter than my 45" but boy I hit it right on the "screws" and had some pretty long drives with it.   

i recently asked a fitter via Twitter about if I already had a good positive angle of attack and felt my swing speed is about as much as I can get out of it, is there any hope for more carry and or yardage.   he suggested adding a 1/2" to it.   I know that' an easy answer for more speed, but how much of a cost in terms of accuracy does it come with.  Or even control of hitting it square. 

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i recently asked a fitter via Twitter about if I already had a good positive angle of attack and felt my swing speed is about as much as I can get out of it, is there any hope for more carry and or yardage.   he suggested adding a 1/2" to it.   I know that' an easy answer for more speed, but how much of a cost in terms of accuracy does it come with.  Or even control of hitting it square. 


Based on your question that is the best answer. If you are missing the center, then that is something that should be worked on as well. Everyone will respond to length differently. As you said, will in impact your ability to square the face or reduce your ability to hit the center of the face.
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So when I get to my computer, I’ll let you guys know what happened today. Let’s just say the results of this fitting were flat out eye popping...in a good way.


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Driver:  :callaway-small: Epic Flash Sub Zero (8.5* HZRDUS Smoke Shaft)

3-wood:  :adams-small:  Tight Lies 2 (15*) 

5-Wood:  :adams-small: Tight Lies 2 (19*) 

Irons :  :ping-small: i210 5-PW

Wedges:  :cleveland-small:  RTX-4 50* and 54* RTX-3 *58

Putter::1332069271_TommyArmour: Impact No. 3

Ball:  MAXFLI TOUR or a :srixon-small: Z-Star

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I had a very surprising result from my fitting (in a good way). Very different than i could ever have imagined. I will post a lot more detail when i get home.

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Current tester for the Titleist TSi Driver

Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Updated 10/6/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  LAB Golf Directed Force 2.1

Current Putter Collection: LAB Golf DIrected Force 1, :cleveland-small: HB Soft Premier #11, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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17 minutes ago, HeathS16 said:

So when I get to my computer, I’ll let you guys know what happened today. Let’s just say the results of this fitting were flat out eye popping...in a good way.


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3 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

I had a very surprising result from my fitting (in a good way). Very different than i could ever have imagined. I will post a lot more detail when i get home.

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25 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

I had a very surprising result from my fitting (in a good way). Very different than i could ever have imagined. I will post a lot more detail when i get home.

Can’t wait to hear about the results!

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That is a beautiful sight, hartrick

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1 hour ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Well. I won’t keep everyone waiting too long.  Ill recap my fitting. Mine was pretty stock boring, I’m sure some of the faster guys will have some more exciting results. 
 

One great aside to start with. I arrived about 30 minutes early to warm up with a small bucket to get loose.   My swing was in a very good place.  I was really dialed in with the 7 iron, then about 6 of 7 drives to wrap up the warm up.  I could have kept hitting that T200 7 iron all day, it was feeling so good. 
 

Anybody who read about my horrible range session on Tuesday, will know how happy this made me! 

OK-The Fitting

My Gamer: TS1 9.0 Fubuki 45g Sr. flex.  
what i like about it.  It’s a fairway finding machine, literally.  I may miss 2 fairways a round.  A bad day might be 3.  It launches high, 16 degrees and apex around 88-90 feet.  
 

what i don’t like about it. I feel it spins too much and loses steam too soon.   It seems to just fall out of the sky.  
 

what i was looking for from the fitting.  To generate less spin without sacrificing accuracy.  And as a result, pick up a few more yards. 
The magic weapons i’ll have to work with 

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My fitter Jeff getting something ready for me

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We started with 5 swings with my TS1.  We saw what i normally see which helps. He noted right away the shaft was wrong for me.  I was getting 3100 to 3200 spin on the shots at 16 to 17 degrees.  
 

He said that is way too much spin for me as i don’t have any issues getting the ball in the air.  Launch was a bit high with that spin.  He said he could live with 16 degrees if i had lower spin.  And the A flex was killing me, by being way too tip soft. 
 

So we started with a Kuro Kage black in 50g Regular flex.  We immediately saw a more penetrating flight. Even though it wasn’t as high (78 feet) it carried 8 yards farther as the spin was down go 2700.  And ball speed was up about 2 mph.  So a bit more speed with a few grams heavier shaft.   A few more shots with very similar numbers. 
 

Then we moved to the Tensei Blue Raw at 55g.  The numbers were all very similar, but about 100 rpm less spin averaged around 2600.  He saw even more of a penatating flight.  But he was worried we might get too low on some mishits.   He tried lowering the weight in the sole, to lighten it up.  But spin started creeping back up. 
 

We went back to the KK but in 55 g.  He said my swing speed had been holding up and now that we were about 20 swings in.  So he wanted to see how i handled this weight. 
 

He asked how it felt. it felt ok to me, but in all honesty it felt like a bit more work than the 50g.  He nodded his head in delight.  Ha 

He said thats exactly what he wanted to hear.  Because you need to think about the holes late in the round, you’re not as fresh as the 1st hole.  And the last club you want to start struggling with is the driver. 
 

So it was back to the KK 50g R and he said, here lets hit some real balls with it, and he started handing me Prov’s—we had been using TM range balls.  So I hit 7 or 8 with those and the numbers were even better ball speed, spin and carry.  
 

So data wise i ended up with these averages. 
84 mph SS

121 ball speed

13.6 launch

2675 spin 

196 carry 

219 total 

The setup I’ll be testing

TSi2 10.0 set to B2 .75 upright 

Kuro Kage Black 50g regular 

std length 

Not internet worthy numbers🥺 But that is about 15 to 17 more total yards than i see on my course using the SX500 GPS   
 

When the drivers arrive from Titleist on Nov 12   Ill be sure snd get some rapsodo and trackman numbers as well as real on course results  

Oh and and a little treat for our lefty friends here.  Most of these still had the wrapper on them 😜😜

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And heres Jeff about to get another happy Titleist customer dialed in. 
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Did he bring up length?  Did you remember to ask?

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1 minute ago, fixyurdivot said:

Did he bring up length?  Did you remember to ask?

I did ask. He felt i was making solid enough contact to not go shorter, but didn’t want to risk losing the accuracy i have by going any longer. 

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Just now, Golfspy_CG2 said:

I did ask. He felt i was making solid enough contact to not go shorter, but didn’t want to risk losing the accuracy i have by going any longer. 

What length are you using?

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