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Has anyone shorter their hybrid shaft be closer to standard iron length?

If so, what have the results been for you?

 

Driver:  :callaway-small: Callaway Mavrik Max 9° neutral weight setting - Shaft: Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI 60S, length 44.75"

Wood:  :cobra-small: Cobra King SZ 3 wood 13° - Shaft: (Stock) Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 65 Graphite

Hybrid:  :cobra-small: Cobra King SZ 19°-21° - Shaft: (Stock) UST Recoil 480 ESX F4

Irons: :cobra-small: 5-PW Cobra King SZ - Shaft: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour 105

Wedges: :vokey-small: Titleist Vokey SM8 54°, 58° - Shaft: (Stock) Wedge Flex

Putter:  :scotty-small: Scotty Cameron X12, length 34"

 :Clicgear: Rovic RV1S

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@Urbs_Valhalla I have hit the Cobra one length hybrid and it was awesome. It is a friend of mine who games it and he also loves it. 

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5w Taylormade SLDR S 19* - 220yd, Ping G2 5-U - 190-105, Maltby M+ 54* & MG 60* - 95-75, Evnroll ER8, Titleist 816 H1 4h 21*, Maltby 4 Hybrid Iron 24* - 210-200, Callaway XR16 8* - 235 carry

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I would say the simple answer is less dispersion but at a possible loss to distance. 

2020 TESTER Ben Hogan UiHi 18* Utility Iron

Driver:     - Anser - 8.5* - Fujikara Red Blur 005 XStiff - Standard L/L

3W:     - SQ Sumo - Mitsubishi Rayon Diamana Stiff - Standard L/L

Hybrid 3:     - Machspeed - UST Mamiya AXIVCore XStiff -Standard L/L

Irons:      - Idea Black CB3  4-GW - KBS Tour Stiff+ - Standard L/L

Wedges:    - Vokey 52*, 54*, 60* - True Temper Wedge - Standard L/L

Putter:     - Versa Blade - 35in

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20 hours ago, Urbs_Valhalla said:

Has anyone shorter their hybrid shaft be closer to standard iron length?

If so, what have the results been for you?

 

If you are talking about say a 4h to 4i length with a steel shaft then it would need extra head weight to keep the swing weight up and, you wouldn't necessarily have any gain over an iron other than higher launch. 

4h is about 3i loft and 3i Head weight and about 1/4-1/2" longer than the same club in graphite or 3/4-1" longer than steel. 

Shortening the shaft by 1/2" is a decrease of 2 swing weight points so, 1" shorter is 4 swing weight points lower, say D2 down to C8. But, if you are saying shorten a 4h to 4i steel length then that could be 1.5" shorter and 6 swing weight points less. Adding 2g head weight brings the swing weight back up 1 point so, 4sw points=8g, 6sw points=12 g more head weight. 

All that is already done with the Cobra one length hybrids. 

 4i loft 21-24° and head weight 246g

4h head weight 240g (which is about the same as a 3i)

3i steel length 39", graphite 39.5"

4h length 40" (graphite)

The reality is that the club is only 1/2" longer but, the lighter shaft also lowers swing weight. The extra half inch adds those 2 extra swing weight points back in. 

If the club feels too heavy then shorter will help lower swing weight. However, if it already feels light then, I would not recommend going any shorter. 

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Golf is simple - people are complicated.

5w Taylormade SLDR S 19* - 220yd, Ping G2 5-U - 190-105, Maltby M+ 54* & MG 60* - 95-75, Evnroll ER8, Titleist 816 H1 4h 21*, Maltby 4 Hybrid Iron 24* - 210-200, Callaway XR16 8* - 235 carry

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27 minutes ago, Buffly said:

If you are talking about say a 4h to 4i length with a steel shaft then it would need extra head weight to keep the swing weight up and, you wouldn't necessarily have any gain over an iron other than higher launch. 

4h is about 3i loft and 3i Head weight and about 1/4-1/2" longer than the same club in graphite or 3/4-1" longer than steel. 

Shortening the shaft by 1/2" is a decrease of 2 swing weight points so, 1" shorter is 4 swing weight points lower, say D2 down to C8. But, if you are saying shorten a 4h to 4i steel length then that could be 1.5" shorter and 6 swing weight points less. Adding 2g head weight brings the swing weight back up 1 point so, 4sw points=8g, 6sw points=12 g more head weight. 

All that is already done with the Cobra one length hybrids. 

 4i loft 21-24° and head weight 246g

4h head weight 240g (which is about the same as a 3i)

3i steel length 39", graphite 39.5"

4h length 40" (graphite)

The reality is that the club is only 1/2" longer but, the lighter shaft also lowers swing weight. The extra half inch adds those 2 extra swing weight points back in. 

If the club feels too heavy then shorter will help lower swing weight. However, if it already feels light then, I would not recommend going any shorter. 

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I saw in a TXG video them talking about using a 100g+ shaft and shortening it to be closer to the iron equivalent length.  

It's an interesting concept, wondered if anyone had tried it out.

Driver:  :callaway-small: Callaway Mavrik Max 9° neutral weight setting - Shaft: Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI 60S, length 44.75"

Wood:  :cobra-small: Cobra King SZ 3 wood 13° - Shaft: (Stock) Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 65 Graphite

Hybrid:  :cobra-small: Cobra King SZ 19°-21° - Shaft: (Stock) UST Recoil 480 ESX F4

Irons: :cobra-small: 5-PW Cobra King SZ - Shaft: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour 105

Wedges: :vokey-small: Titleist Vokey SM8 54°, 58° - Shaft: (Stock) Wedge Flex

Putter:  :scotty-small: Scotty Cameron X12, length 34"

 :Clicgear: Rovic RV1S

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