Samwell1020 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 I had a situation where I couldn't find my ball due to leaves. I hit a blind second shot on a par 5 and could not find the ball on the leaf-filled hill. My group had agreed to a leaf rule before the round to a free drop in the vicinity of where you thought the ball should be. This was a local game with $5 on the line. As I couldn't find my ball, I dropped on the downslope of the hill where I thought my ball should be. I hit chunked this ball forward about 70 yards, and had about 100 yards into the green remaining. As we were walking up to my ball, I found my original shot about 50 yards past where I had dropped (it must have really caught the downslope of the hill). I declared that I found my original ball and finished the hole out with my original ball. Once I got to the green, another group member (who's play had carried him away from our hole onto the adjacent hole) confronted me as to why I had seemingly played two shots. He refused to allow me to play the original ball. What should I do in this case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jddaigneault Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 You can only play your original ball if you declare a provisional and hit from the same spot you hit the original ball from. Once a ball is declared a “lost ball”, which is what you do by dropping (whether taking penalty strokes or a free drop), the original ball can no longer be used. Technically, it is a general penalty and you have to finish out the hole with your dropped ball (not the original). If you take a stroke at the next tee having not corrected your mistake, you are disqualified. All that over $5! Quote Taylormade M5 Driver Cobra F9 3 Wood Srixon ZX5 4-6 Iron Srixon ZX7 7-PW Taylormade MG2 Wedges 50/55/60 Taylormade Spider X Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveP043 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 I'm sure you didn't really formalize your "leaf rule", but I'm going to answer as if you had, and were using Model Local Rule F-14. This local rule can be used to define accumulations of Loose Impediments (i.e. leaves) as Ground Under Repair. If a ball is Known or Virtually Certain to be lost in an Abnormal Course Condition (like GUR), free relief is allowed (Exception to 18.2a). Once you substitute another ball by taking relief, however, the "relief ball" is in play, even if you subsequently find your original ball. Quote Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 According to the rules ofGolf there is no leaf rule. You group decided to implement a local rule. I would say that when you started playing the new ball the original was no longer in play. When you found the lost ball did you discuss what to do with the other players in your group? Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Yeah, you were in the wrong there. A golfer can’t put another ball in play and then decide to play their first ball. You used the agreed upon leaf rule, then decided NOT to use it... Can’t have it both ways. DaveP043 1 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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