ejcrossl 27 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 9:35 AM, GolfSpy Stroker said: I don't anything about the z forged but I can tell you the 785s are fantastic clubs. Right up there with any Mizuno or Titleist. Seriously underrated. The heads can be a little small so the idea of adding 4-6 585 with 785 7-P is done quite a bit for mid HC. I have a full set of 785 and they are great, but if you want a touch more forgiveness with the long irons the 585 offer that. I started with 4-W of 785s based on a 7 iron fitting. 4 and 5 were so bad for me, so snatched up some 585s. Those things are launchers, so much fun to hit the 4 and 5 iron again. I used to dread it. Only wished I had gone with the 6 iron as well. Its so hit or miss for me. Absolutely love it on good strikes, but I get a little toe side and it loses 20 yds. Zx5s and 7s in like the W and 9 might be the way to go for me. Can't wait to hit them. 1 Quote Driver - Taylormade M5 10.5 (set to 9.75 deg and 1.5 open) Fujikura Pro 2.0 Tour Spec 7x 3 wood - TM M3 17 deg (set to 15.5 deg and 3 deg open) GD DI 7x 3 Hybrid - TM rocketballz Accra Dymatch S165, 68g, M5 flex (XS) Irons (4-5) - Srixon 585s Nippon Modus Pro 120x Irons (6-W) - Srixon 785s Nippon Modus Pro 120x Wedges (51, 56, 60) - Cleveland RTX4 Nippon Modus 125 Wedge Flex Putter - EvnRoll ER5 Link to post Share on other sites
mr.hicksta 3,350 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 8:35 AM, GolfSpy Stroker said: I don't anything about the z forged but I can tell you the 785s are fantastic clubs. Right up there with any Mizuno or Titleist. Seriously underrated. The heads can be a little small so the idea of adding 4-6 585 with 785 7-P is done quite a bit for mid HC. I have a full set of 785 and they are great, but if you want a touch more forgiveness with the long irons the 585 offer that. I'd call them criminally underrated in terms of quality and performance TBH. I gamed a combo set for a bit and it was solid. I'm considering doing the same for the ZX series, going ZX5 for 5-6 and ZX7 for 7-PW. We shall see! 3 Quote Epic Max LS 9º | ACCRA TZ5 65 M4 Epic Speed 3W 15º | ACCRA TZ5 75 M4 Apex 3H 19º | ACCRA TZ5 95H M4 Z785 4-PW | MCA MMT Taper Iron 125 S RTX ZipCore Tour Rack 50, 54, 60 (Mid) | MCA MMT Taper Iron 125 S ER5 | BGT Stability Tour Tour B X Link to post Share on other sites
dlow206 6,894 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, mr.hicksta said: I'd call them criminally underrated in terms of quality and performance TBH. I gamed a combo set for a bit and it was solid. I'm considering doing the same for the ZX series, going ZX5 for 5-6 and ZX7 for 7-PW. We shall see! I am thinking about ZX4 5-6 and ZX5 7-PW, and ZX4 is not even announced yet haha. 1 1 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Current tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 12/27/2020 Driver: TSi 2 - Graphite Design AD-XC 6S Hybrids: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S Irons: ZX5 5 - PW - Nippon Modus 120 S Wedges: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - KBS Hi-Rev S Putter: ER2 Link to post Share on other sites
rbsiedsc 2,060 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 If I didn’t just get the pxgs I would got 4-6 zx5 7-9 zx7 and Pw z forged. Since no aw in the forged, may then just go 7-aw in zx7. I can dream but likely not happening due to my recent purchase Quote Driver: Epic Flash SZ with Pro 2.0 TS 7X. Testing Tensei Orange Pro S (1" tipped) at 44.75" 2H: Super Hybrid with Tensei Orange Pro Hyb 80 Stiff (shaft may be swapped at some point) 3H: 939X UST proforce V2 black F3 hybrid soft stepped XStiff UPRT setting 4-AW: 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 1/4" long Unofficial Review Wedges Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) (Backup 54*,60*: S Tour KBS Tour Stiff 3* up) Putter: Corza Ghost 35" ( Benched Toulon Las Vegas Stroke Lab 34") Ball: MTB-X Link to post Share on other sites
RickyBobby_PR 5,988 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, ejcrossl said: To me it's the PXG effect. PXG rocked the market with extremely expensive clubs. All other brands took notice, and now the prices are rising. Golfers won't stop buying because well marketing on new shiny clubs is so good. So now all make more money and we lose on the "value". Thanks PXG For awhile I was in the crowns that there was no pxg effect and the brand was in similar space to Miura and other niche high end brands similar to how there’s high end niche type cars that really don’t impact the price of your everyday cars. But as time has gone on I think there is a little bit of the pxg effect especially once pxg took off a little with the gen1 hero pricing and then gen2 release. The brands took notice that places like club champion and similar business models were having customers end up in the pxgs. Callaway was the first to try it with the epic irons and based solely on perception I don’t think it worked how they wanted and imo that’s because the had the same name as their standard offering. Titleist with the cncpt irons had much better success with them being limited quantities. It’s going to be interesting to see how things go in 2021 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to post Share on other sites
rbsiedsc 2,060 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 After my ball striking with the PXGs today, i may hold off on the V-sole unless I win a contest or get chosen to test, which I would thoroughly run these through their paces. 1 Quote Driver: Epic Flash SZ with Pro 2.0 TS 7X. Testing Tensei Orange Pro S (1" tipped) at 44.75" 2H: Super Hybrid with Tensei Orange Pro Hyb 80 Stiff (shaft may be swapped at some point) 3H: 939X UST proforce V2 black F3 hybrid soft stepped XStiff UPRT setting 4-AW: 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 1/4" long Unofficial Review Wedges Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) (Backup 54*,60*: S Tour KBS Tour Stiff 3* up) Putter: Corza Ghost 35" ( Benched Toulon Las Vegas Stroke Lab 34") Ball: MTB-X Link to post Share on other sites
dlow206 6,894 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Did something kind of crazy as it relates to the ZX irons... Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Current tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 12/27/2020 Driver: TSi 2 - Graphite Design AD-XC 6S Hybrids: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S Irons: ZX5 5 - PW - Nippon Modus 120 S Wedges: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - KBS Hi-Rev S Putter: ER2 Link to post Share on other sites
rbsiedsc 2,060 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, dlow206 said: Did something kind of crazy as it relates to the ZX irons... Oh boy, how so? Does it involve their UK site? Quote Driver: Epic Flash SZ with Pro 2.0 TS 7X. Testing Tensei Orange Pro S (1" tipped) at 44.75" 2H: Super Hybrid with Tensei Orange Pro Hyb 80 Stiff (shaft may be swapped at some point) 3H: 939X UST proforce V2 black F3 hybrid soft stepped XStiff UPRT setting 4-AW: 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 1/4" long Unofficial Review Wedges Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) (Backup 54*,60*: S Tour KBS Tour Stiff 3* up) Putter: Corza Ghost 35" ( Benched Toulon Las Vegas Stroke Lab 34") Ball: MTB-X Link to post Share on other sites
dlow206 6,894 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, rbsiedsc said: Oh boy, how so? Does it involve their UK site? it involves an open box JDM set 1 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Current tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 12/27/2020 Driver: TSi 2 - Graphite Design AD-XC 6S Hybrids: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S Irons: ZX5 5 - PW - Nippon Modus 120 S Wedges: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - KBS Hi-Rev S Putter: ER2 Link to post Share on other sites
ballplayer002003 1,246 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 11/20/2020 at 9:34 AM, RickyBobby_PR said: Srixon is far from a small brand. They are and have been one of the largest brands in Asia and Europe for quite some time. They were brought to the US in 2014 to expand the market as well as the offerings from SRI which also include Cleveland and XXIO (the premium brand in the group). The company has wanted to keep the Srixon brand more of a premium offering which is why they have a smaller retail presence in the US than the other brands you mentioned, which unfortunately hurts their exposure a bit as does the minimal advertisements on TV. As for the other brands there are very few that have irons under $1300 that aren’t labels game improvement. Like it or not the cost of materials, the transportation of such materials and other economic factors for production play a role in the price as does the cost of research and development. This release utilized AI in its design which is going to add to the cost. But as @Golfspy_CG2 eluded too in regard to the Wilson ball companies have to consider the perceptions of equipment and names in heir relationship to the competitors. So raising the price to the same as the other brands plays a role in letting the consumer know they are on level with those other brands. Yes you are correct that consumers thru demand have a role in the price of goods and if consumers stopped buy goods the demand would go down and such the price would too. But that’s not going to happen as long as we are in a thriving economy and have the means to buy. It’s the same with cars and what used to be the cost effective brands still are but they are just at a higher price than before. Golf consumers have been spoiled for a long time with prices. Callaway had a $500 driver back in the 90s before what we became used to with $400 or less being the norm for drivers and now it’s getting harder to find that price and many of the fairway woods are creeping into that range as drives go past the $500 mark. Golf retail Is a booming business and I don’t see consumers on a large scale deciding not to buy new clubs anytime soon. I couldn't agree with you more, and that's the sad part. I don't see consumers not buying new clubs either. Each year we are fooled into thinking the new model is better than the last, when in fact that's not always the case. Look, I like shinny new clubs as much as the next guy but at what point to we, as consumers, reach our breaking point? Who will be the first to come out with a stock thousand dollar driver and try to tell the public that it is justified, and when it happens, will we all just simply say..."makes sense"? 2 Quote Driver: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g 3 Wood: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff 5 Wood : Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff 4 Hybrid: Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff Irons: 5-7 Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X 9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X Wedges: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex Putter: Scotty Cameron Del Mar 34" Link to post Share on other sites
ballplayer002003 1,246 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 11/20/2020 at 11:41 AM, ejcrossl said: To me it's the PXG effect. PXG rocked the market with extremely expensive clubs. All other brands took notice, and now the prices are rising. Golfers won't stop buying because well marketing on new shiny clubs is so good. So now all make more money and we lose on the "value". Thanks PXG I agree, which is a shame as well. When PXG came out with their clubs and prices I just laughed knowing it was too expensive for me to even try. They now offer a sweet military discount but I am not in the military. To this day, I have never hit a PXG club outside of one driver while getting fitted. I will say, I love the way the new Srixon's look and would love to try them out. I hear the older ones feel great so I can only assume the new ones feel the same or better. Quote Driver: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g 3 Wood: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff 5 Wood : Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff 4 Hybrid: Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff Irons: 5-7 Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X 9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X Wedges: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex Putter: Scotty Cameron Del Mar 34" Link to post Share on other sites
rbsiedsc 2,060 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 minute ago, ballplayer002003 said: I agree, which is a shame as well. When PXG came out with their clubs and prices I just laughed knowing it was too expensive for me to even try. They now offer a sweet military discount but I am not in the military. To this day, I have never hit a PXG club outside of one driver while getting fitted. I will say, I love the way the new Srixon's look and would love to try them out. I hear the older ones feel great so I can only assume the new ones feel the same or better. I will say, pxg pricing is low now and worth a try. Although I would love the v sole of the Srixons, my 0211s work. At $89 a stick if you want stock shaft ($120 otherwise) not terrible pricing now. 1 Quote Driver: Epic Flash SZ with Pro 2.0 TS 7X. Testing Tensei Orange Pro S (1" tipped) at 44.75" 2H: Super Hybrid with Tensei Orange Pro Hyb 80 Stiff (shaft may be swapped at some point) 3H: 939X UST proforce V2 black F3 hybrid soft stepped XStiff UPRT setting 4-AW: 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 1/4" long Unofficial Review Wedges Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) (Backup 54*,60*: S Tour KBS Tour Stiff 3* up) Putter: Corza Ghost 35" ( Benched Toulon Las Vegas Stroke Lab 34") Ball: MTB-X Link to post Share on other sites
scooterhd2 504 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Currently gaming the 585 5 and 6 iron and 785 7-PW. Probably going to buy the ZX5 5 and 6 iron to replace the 585s. Looks like a better visual blend as well. But I dont imagine the ZX7 being a drastic improvement on the 785. Such a quality iron. 1 Quote 2020 TESTER Ben Hogan UiHi 18* Utility Iron Driver: G410 Plus 9*, Oban Gold Hybrids: Super XTD 17* Hybrid Fubuki AX, , Apex 20* AD-DI 85S, Apex 23* Oban Purple Irons: Z585 5-6, Z785 7-PW, Modus 120s Wedges: RTX4 50, Modus 120x, , Hi Toe 56 & 60, Modus 120x Putter: ER3 @ 33" Link to post Share on other sites
dlow206 6,894 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 In my hand 6 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Current tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 12/27/2020 Driver: TSi 2 - Graphite Design AD-XC 6S Hybrids: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S Irons: ZX5 5 - PW - Nippon Modus 120 S Wedges: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - KBS Hi-Rev S Putter: ER2 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Tom the Golf Nut 3,533 Posted December 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2020 2 hours ago, dlow206 said: In my hand Send me your credit cards and check book. You are banned from buying any more new equipment until you break 80. 4 6 Quote Driver, G400 11* SR Flex 3 Wood, SLDR HL 17* R Flex 5 Wood, SLDR 19* R Flex 7 Wood, F6 22.5* R Flex Irons, 699 Pro's S Flex (5 - AW) JB Wedge 56* Wedge, CBX 60* Putter, Marksman Fang 35" Link to post Share on other sites
dlow206 6,894 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tom the Golf Nut said: Send me your credit cards and check book. You are banned from buying any more new equipment until you break 80. Done buying equipment for a while i think, deal was just too good lol 1 1 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Current tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 12/27/2020 Driver: TSi 2 - Graphite Design AD-XC 6S Hybrids: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S Irons: ZX5 5 - PW - Nippon Modus 120 S Wedges: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - KBS Hi-Rev S Putter: ER2 Link to post Share on other sites
scooterhd2 504 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 A little black paint fill and those are going to blend perfect with the 785s. @dlow206 let us know what you think of the ZX5. Quote 2020 TESTER Ben Hogan UiHi 18* Utility Iron Driver: G410 Plus 9*, Oban Gold Hybrids: Super XTD 17* Hybrid Fubuki AX, , Apex 20* AD-DI 85S, Apex 23* Oban Purple Irons: Z585 5-6, Z785 7-PW, Modus 120s Wedges: RTX4 50, Modus 120x, , Hi Toe 56 & 60, Modus 120x Putter: ER3 @ 33" Link to post Share on other sites
mr.hicksta 3,350 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 17 hours ago, scooterhd2 said: Currently gaming the 585 5 and 6 iron and 785 7-PW. Probably going to buy the ZX5 5 and 6 iron to replace the 585s. Looks like a better visual blend as well. But I dont imagine the ZX7 being a drastic improvement on the 785. Such a quality iron. I had that exact setup for a bit, but now I'm gaming straight Z785s. The combo set was very good and I'm leaning towards the ZX5/ZX7 combo split at ZX5 5-6, ZX7 7-AW. I'm trying to find out if Srixon will offer the Project X LS iron shafts as I'd like to give those a go. 1/6 needs to hurry up and get here! 1 Quote Epic Max LS 9º | ACCRA TZ5 65 M4 Epic Speed 3W 15º | ACCRA TZ5 75 M4 Apex 3H 19º | ACCRA TZ5 95H M4 Z785 4-PW | MCA MMT Taper Iron 125 S RTX ZipCore Tour Rack 50, 54, 60 (Mid) | MCA MMT Taper Iron 125 S ER5 | BGT Stability Tour Tour B X Link to post Share on other sites
scooterhd2 504 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 40 minutes ago, mr.hicksta said: I had that exact setup for a bit, but now I'm gaming straight Z785s. The combo set was very good and I'm leaning towards the ZX5/ZX7 combo split at ZX5 5-6, ZX7 7-AW. I'm trying to find out if Srixon will offer the Project X LS iron shafts as I'd like to give those a go. 1/6 needs to hurry up and get here! Have you hit those shafts before? I found the 785 already a touch stronger lofted and lower spin. I love the flight of the Modus 120s. I imagine for me the X LS would increase distance, but make it harder to hold greens. But I am not a high ball, high spin player. 1 Quote 2020 TESTER Ben Hogan UiHi 18* Utility Iron Driver: G410 Plus 9*, Oban Gold Hybrids: Super XTD 17* Hybrid Fubuki AX, , Apex 20* AD-DI 85S, Apex 23* Oban Purple Irons: Z585 5-6, Z785 7-PW, Modus 120s Wedges: RTX4 50, Modus 120x, , Hi Toe 56 & 60, Modus 120x Putter: ER3 @ 33" Link to post Share on other sites
mr.hicksta 3,350 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, scooterhd2 said: Have you hit those shafts before? I found the 785 already a touch stronger lofted and lower spin. I love the flight of the Modus 120s. I imagine for me the X LS would increase distance, but make it harder to hold greens. But I am not a high ball, high spin player. I have not tried them yet, but I'm going to see if I can before I order these! I get plenty of height with the TI X100s so I may end up sticking with them depending on upcharge situation. Quote Epic Max LS 9º | ACCRA TZ5 65 M4 Epic Speed 3W 15º | ACCRA TZ5 75 M4 Apex 3H 19º | ACCRA TZ5 95H M4 Z785 4-PW | MCA MMT Taper Iron 125 S RTX ZipCore Tour Rack 50, 54, 60 (Mid) | MCA MMT Taper Iron 125 S ER5 | BGT Stability Tour Tour B X Link to post Share on other sites
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