ryanokeefe Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Recently purchased 2 dozen "Mint Grade" used balls.. They're performing a little weird but I put it down to my inconsistency, not the balls. I also happened to purchase a UV torch recently (unrelated to the hype of finding lost balls at the moment). Messing around, I discovered that the used Pro V1's I purchased have a weird finish under the UV light that doesn't align with some of the older model Pro V1/1x's I have lying around. I don't have any 2020 balls to compare these to so I'm going to grab a sleeve of fresh ProV1's tomorrow to see if they have the same irregular finish. Until then, my conclusion is that I've either been duped with refinished balls or the finish on new ProV's are odd, to say the least. Shapotomous 1 Quote D | | SZ Xtreme 10.5° - HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 6.0 60g | Setting: STD-Draw 3W | | 2014 Rapture 13° - HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 6.0 70g | Setting: 13.5° 3H | | 939X 19° - HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.0 90g | Setting: STD 4i-7i | | Z585 - Nippon Modus 3 120X | 2° Upright, STD Length 8i-PW | | Z785 - Nippon Modus 3 120X | 2° Upright, STD Length W's | | RTX-4 - 52° MID, 56° FULL, 60° FULL P | | TripleTrack - Double Wide - GP SNSR Tour Grip B | | Tour B XS /or/ | Z-Star G | GP Z-Grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 That's very interesting. If we have chemists on the Forum maybe they can explain what the UV light is telling us. EDIT: I also just noticed they mixed in some Xs with that purchase. Shapotomous 1 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarheelvolvo Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 20 minutes ago, ryanokeefe said: Recently purchased 2 dozen "Mint Grade" used balls.. They're performing a little weird but I put it down to my inconsistency, not the balls. I also happened to purchase a UV torch recently (unrelated to the hype of finding lost balls at the moment). Messing around, I discovered that the used Pro V1's I purchased have a weird finish under the UV light that doesn't align with some of the older model Pro V1/1x's I have lying around. I don't have any 2020 balls to compare these to so I'm going to grab a sleeve of fresh ProV1's tomorrow to see if they have the same irregular finish. Until then, my conclusion is that I've either been duped with refinished balls or the finish on new ProV's are odd, to say the least. First fake Scotty Cameron's and now fake PRO V1's?? Pure speculation on my part, but that is very odd and since you mentioned they are performing weird I wouldn't put it past some scammer to relabel rocks as Pro V1's to make a few extra bucks. Maybe send some to Tony to get to the bottom of it? tony@CIC 1 Quote In my Hoofer: G410 LST 10.5* - Kai'Li White 60 X-flex VRS Covert 3W 15* - Kuro Kage 65 S-flex T200 4-GW, DG X100 Tour Issue - Tester Glide 2.0 Stealth 54.12 SS & 58.10 SS Zing 2 LW - 60* Anser 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanokeefe Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, tony@CIC said: That's very interesting. If we have chemists on the Forum maybe they can explain what the UV light is telling us. EDIT: I also just noticed they mixed in some Xs with that purchase. The X's are just some I had laying around. The purchase was of the 2020 Pro V1's only. Strangely, the middle and right balls on the bottom row are 2020 Pro V1's from the used order and they don't show much illumination at all. Edited November 19, 2020 by ryanokeefe tony@CIC 1 Quote D | | SZ Xtreme 10.5° - HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 6.0 60g | Setting: STD-Draw 3W | | 2014 Rapture 13° - HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 6.0 70g | Setting: 13.5° 3H | | 939X 19° - HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.0 90g | Setting: STD 4i-7i | | Z585 - Nippon Modus 3 120X | 2° Upright, STD Length 8i-PW | | Z785 - Nippon Modus 3 120X | 2° Upright, STD Length W's | | RTX-4 - 52° MID, 56° FULL, 60° FULL P | | TripleTrack - Double Wide - GP SNSR Tour Grip B | | Tour B XS /or/ | Z-Star G | GP Z-Grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosenhandle Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 @Johnsmalls just posted this TGW video in the Wilson Raw discussion. About 3/4 of the way through they use a UV light to show uneven paint distribution. It looks just like your pic. Wedgie, JohnSmalls, Tarheelvolvo and 2 others 5 Quote I would like to publicly apologize to my family for golfing so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middler Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 6 hours ago, tony@CIC said: That's very interesting. If we have chemists on the Forum maybe they can explain what the UV light is telling us. EDIT: I also just noticed they mixed in some Xs with that purchase. Yes, I’m curious what that means too, I’m assuming some are refinished as the OP guessed. I didn’t realize golf balls were so easy to find with UV at night. Some of my “I only play golf balls I find” might be interested. https://youtu.be/fphpqMLbT2I tony@CIC 1 Quote Titleist TSR2 11° HZRDUS Red CB 50 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 CB 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Mizuno JPX923 HMP 4-GW, T22 54.12WS, T22 58.04DC w Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Midsize Evnroll EV5.3 Maxfli Tour & ProV1 Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Payntr X 002 LE, Ecco Biom C4, FJ DryJoys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarheelvolvo Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 3 hours ago, chosenhandle said: @Johnsmalls just posted this TGW video in the Wilson Raw discussion. About 3/4 of the way through they use a UV light to show uneven paint distribution. It looks just like your pic. You're probably right, especially since they are used balls and the paint could have worn a bit thin in spots from play or even from the factory. tony@CIC 1 Quote In my Hoofer: G410 LST 10.5* - Kai'Li White 60 X-flex VRS Covert 3W 15* - Kuro Kage 65 S-flex T200 4-GW, DG X100 Tour Issue - Tester Glide 2.0 Stealth 54.12 SS & 58.10 SS Zing 2 LW - 60* Anser 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siamese Moose Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 You can always cut one open. I'd choose whichever one played the "weirdest". tony@CIC and HeathS16 2 Quote Moose, my cat, is Siamese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeathS16 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 You can always cut one open. I'd choose whichever one played the "weirdest".Find it/buy it...cut it Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Driver: TSi3 Tester Check out the Review HERE 2-Iron- 699-U 5-Wood: Pro (18*) Irons : i210 4-PW Wedges: RTX-4 50* and 54* RTX-3 *58 Putter: Impact No. 3 Ball: MAXFLI TOUR Tracked by: Bag: BagBoy ZTF Stand Bag (REVIEW HERE) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanokeefe Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 Update - purchased a sleeve of fresh 2020 ProV1's. They are the 3 x #8 balls on the top row. The surface under UV Light is uniform and bright. I would assume that if the ununiform finish of the other balls was caused by cleaning/use, the "wear" wouldn't be as consistent or as gradual. I could be wrong though. There is also a ProV1X in the bunch that is well used and maintains it's illumination all over. The parts that do illuminate on the used balls are similar in look to the fresh-out-of-the-box balls. Given that the illumination appear to be coming from the clear coat (in this situation), you would think that the parts of the balls that aren't illuminating over the entire surface would either have; no clear coat in the darker spots(doesn't appear to be the case) or that these balls may be refinished after having some minor surface defects removed and then a different type of clearcoat applied. tony@CIC and GregGarner 2 Quote D | | SZ Xtreme 10.5° - HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 6.0 60g | Setting: STD-Draw 3W | | 2014 Rapture 13° - HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 6.0 70g | Setting: 13.5° 3H | | 939X 19° - HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.0 90g | Setting: STD 4i-7i | | Z585 - Nippon Modus 3 120X | 2° Upright, STD Length 8i-PW | | Z785 - Nippon Modus 3 120X | 2° Upright, STD Length W's | | RTX-4 - 52° MID, 56° FULL, 60° FULL P | | TripleTrack - Double Wide - GP SNSR Tour Grip B | | Tour B XS /or/ | Z-Star G | GP Z-Grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanokeefe Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 Another note: I've cut 2 of them apart and they are the latest model Pro V1's at the core. So I guess it just leaves the refinishing vs very weird wear question. Siamese Moose 1 Quote D | | SZ Xtreme 10.5° - HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 6.0 60g | Setting: STD-Draw 3W | | 2014 Rapture 13° - HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 6.0 70g | Setting: 13.5° 3H | | 939X 19° - HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.0 90g | Setting: STD 4i-7i | | Z585 - Nippon Modus 3 120X | 2° Upright, STD Length 8i-PW | | Z785 - Nippon Modus 3 120X | 2° Upright, STD Length W's | | RTX-4 - 52° MID, 56° FULL, 60° FULL P | | TripleTrack - Double Wide - GP SNSR Tour Grip B | | Tour B XS /or/ | Z-Star G | GP Z-Grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregGarner Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 11 hours ago, ryanokeefe said: Update - purchased a sleeve of fresh 2020 ProV1's. They are the 3 x #8 balls on the top row. This is WILD. I can't believe how different they are. The new ones look like they just crawled out of a swamp or were bitten by a spider or something and then you have some used ones that barely show up at all! a) I need to buy a UV light and b) the guys at the shop are definitely going to ask me what I'm doing Quote Driver: ZX5 LS MkII 9.5* (@ 9.0*) with 46.5" Ventus Blue 6X 3-wood: SIM 15* with Diamana Limited 75S 5-wood: RADspeed 18.5* with Motore X F3 60S 2i: ZX with SteelFiber i95 Stiff 4hy: TS3 23* with Tensei AV Blue 70 S 4i-7i ZX7, 8i-PW Z-Forged, Modus3 Tour 120 S 50*, 55* RTX 6 Modus3 Tour 125 60* RTX Full Face ZipCore DG Spinner S400 Putter: Toulon Chicago with a Quad Tour or HB SOFT Milled 10.5S with UST All-in Ball: Chrome Tour (but I might still have some Left Dashes hanging around) Bag: Ltd Edition Tartan, blue/green/yellow Using to keep track of my shots Tested: D7 Forged 3i-PW, KBS Tour-V 110S - Official Review Blind Ball Test (Ball #3 vs Ball #4) - Unofficial Review V3 GPS Watch + Tags - Official Review Vero X2 - Official Review The Stack System - Official Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 @ryanokeefeCare to share which source you got these, Lostballs.com, etc. Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanokeefe Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 5 hours ago, tony@CIC said: @ryanokeefeCare to share which source you got these, Lostballs.com, etc. these are from lostgolfballs.com.au the balls were "2020 Pro V1 - AAAAA Mint Grade" .. I've just checked and only the "AAAA Near Mint Grade" are available right now. Quote D | | SZ Xtreme 10.5° - HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 6.0 60g | Setting: STD-Draw 3W | | 2014 Rapture 13° - HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 6.0 70g | Setting: 13.5° 3H | | 939X 19° - HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.0 90g | Setting: STD 4i-7i | | Z585 - Nippon Modus 3 120X | 2° Upright, STD Length 8i-PW | | Z785 - Nippon Modus 3 120X | 2° Upright, STD Length W's | | RTX-4 - 52° MID, 56° FULL, 60° FULL P | | TripleTrack - Double Wide - GP SNSR Tour Grip B | | Tour B XS /or/ | Z-Star G | GP Z-Grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 these are from lostgolfballs.com.au the balls were "2020 Pro V1 - AAAAA Mint Grade" .. I've just checked and only the "AAAA Near Mint Grade" are available right now..Hmmm interesting. My wife gets her yellow 5A Pro V 1Xs from lostgolfballs.com in the US. She hasn't noticed an issue and they guarantee their product but I'm still interested. Ultimately she'll probably be switching to MTB Black but in the meantime she has about 4 doz of the 1Xs to work through. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfinnut Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Aren't most 2nd swing or "Mint Grade" golf balls all "resurfaced" with a new cheaper to manufacture coating anyway before they are resold?? Quote WITB: Do I like Titleist or what? Driver: TSR3 9* UST Mamiya Proto LIN-Q Blue Fairways: TSi2 UST Mamiya LIN-Q Blue 13.5* Driving Iron: U500 17* Blue Ventus HB Velocore Irons: T350 4 & 5, T200 6 - PW UST Mamiya Recoil Dart F4 105g Wedges: SM6 48*, SM9 52*, SM8 56* Modus Tour Wedge Putter: Newport 2 w/ Garsen Ultimate grip Ball: *ProV1 Left Dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanokeefe Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 4 hours ago, golfinnut said: Aren't most 2nd swing or "Mint Grade" golf balls all "resurfaced" with a new cheaper to manufacture coating anyway before they are resold?? No, There are "recycled" and then there are "refinished" (so they say). https://www.lostgolfballs.com.au/grading-system/ shows the stupid "A, AA, AAA, AAAA, AAAAA" system that this particular company uses for both styles. Quote D | | SZ Xtreme 10.5° - HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 6.0 60g | Setting: STD-Draw 3W | | 2014 Rapture 13° - HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 6.0 70g | Setting: 13.5° 3H | | 939X 19° - HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.0 90g | Setting: STD 4i-7i | | Z585 - Nippon Modus 3 120X | 2° Upright, STD Length 8i-PW | | Z785 - Nippon Modus 3 120X | 2° Upright, STD Length W's | | RTX-4 - 52° MID, 56° FULL, 60° FULL P | | TripleTrack - Double Wide - GP SNSR Tour Grip B | | Tour B XS /or/ | Z-Star G | GP Z-Grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanokeefe Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 11 hours ago, greggarner said: This is WILD. I can't believe how different they are. The new ones look like they just crawled out of a swamp or were bitten by a spider or something and then you have some used ones that barely show up at all! a) I need to buy a UV light and b) the guys at the shop are definitely going to ask me what I'm doing The UV light shows a surprising amount of additional detail that is tough to pick up with the naked eye. Below image shows the same fresh-from-the-box Pro-V1. A basically invisible surface defect can easily be seen under the UV light. GregGarner 1 Quote D | | SZ Xtreme 10.5° - HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 6.0 60g | Setting: STD-Draw 3W | | 2014 Rapture 13° - HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 6.0 70g | Setting: 13.5° 3H | | 939X 19° - HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.0 90g | Setting: STD 4i-7i | | Z585 - Nippon Modus 3 120X | 2° Upright, STD Length 8i-PW | | Z785 - Nippon Modus 3 120X | 2° Upright, STD Length W's | | RTX-4 - 52° MID, 56° FULL, 60° FULL P | | TripleTrack - Double Wide - GP SNSR Tour Grip B | | Tour B XS /or/ | Z-Star G | GP Z-Grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 The UV light shows a surprising amount of additional detail that is tough to pick up with the naked eye. Below image shows the same fresh-from-the-box Pro-V1. A basically invisible surface defect can easily be seen under the UV light. It'd sure be interesting to hear from Tony Covey about the 'defects'. in the new Pro V. I assume the letters are manufacturing marks - perhaps date of manufacture? BTW great close up photos. ryanokeefe 1 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanokeefe Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 -Another Update- I played 9 holes with one of the brand new balls, to see how it faired after some use. I played horribly so the ball saw 2 adventures into the water (retrieved with my I GOTCHA JAWZ), multiple bunker shots and a lot of chips after missed approach shots. I also went overboard with the ball washer on every tee box. The images below show the #8 "New" ball after 9 holes, in between two of the "Mint used" golf balls. Visually, I would consider the #8 ball to be in worse condition than the used balls, after the 9 holes of play. As you can see, there is still an even glow over the hole ball and no signs of any reduction in the surface illumination under the UV light, apart from sections that are affected by nicks from club grooves. I spoke to lostgolfballs.com.au via phone, today. Their rep vehemently denies that the ball is refinished. I asked how they wash their balls and was advised that the process is simply soapy water and a scrub. If I take lostgolfballs.com.au's word for it; the only thing I can think of, that could cause the difference between the "used" and "new" balls is either: the extended stay in muddy water OR extended exposure to the sun. I'm interested to hear of any other theories. Either way, it's got me stumped. Quote D | | SZ Xtreme 10.5° - HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 6.0 60g | Setting: STD-Draw 3W | | 2014 Rapture 13° - HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 6.0 70g | Setting: 13.5° 3H | | 939X 19° - HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.0 90g | Setting: STD 4i-7i | | Z585 - Nippon Modus 3 120X | 2° Upright, STD Length 8i-PW | | Z785 - Nippon Modus 3 120X | 2° Upright, STD Length W's | | RTX-4 - 52° MID, 56° FULL, 60° FULL P | | TripleTrack - Double Wide - GP SNSR Tour Grip B | | Tour B XS /or/ | Z-Star G | GP Z-Grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan_Golfer_PNW Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I am a chemist so I will try to speak on this. Your clear coat likely has some phosphorescent material on it (UV light excites it and then it gives off a glow). Some organic compounds glow under UV light and that is likely what you are seeing. I bet on the older balls, the coating is worn down by sun, rain, heat etc over time, like you have noted above. Kenny B, cnosil and tony@CIC 3 Quote Follow my journey to enjoying golf and going low Driver: Epic Max LS Ventus Black 6x 44.5" 3wHL: Rogue ST LS 75x Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink 7w: Apex UW 21* MMT 80S DI: Caley 01X 18* with KBS PGH Stiff plus 95g 4-AW: 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched Wedges Zipcore Putter: L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue Ball: TBD Shot Tracking: Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0 Grip: Lamkin Sonar + Midsize My Reviews: Caley 01X Driving Iron Review 2023 Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 120 in the MGS Speed Challenge (updated 3/15/23) TAIII #2 Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter ) Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) 0211 2019 Unofficial Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 47 minutes ago, rbsiedsc said: I am a chemist so I will try to speak on this. Your clear coat likely has some phosphorescent material on it (UV light excites it and then it gives off a glow). Some organic compounds glow under UV light and that is likely what you are seeing. I bet on the older balls, the coating is worn down by sun, rain, heat etc over time, like you have noted above. As an old chemist, I will agree with the young chemist as I have forgotten most of it. Unless, that is, we talk about Cherenkov glow. Contrary to what many people think, we do not glow, even after working at the Hanford nuclear site for 50 years. However, we are not allowed to show our third eye when we go out in public. Vegan_Golfer_PNW, Siamese Moose, GregGarner and 3 others 1 5 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan_Golfer_PNW Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 25 minutes ago, Kenny B said: As an old chemist, I will agree with the young chemist as I have forgotten most of it. Unless, that is, we talk about Cherenkov glow. Contrary to what many people think, we do not glow, even after working at the Hanford nuclear site for 50 years. However, we are not allowed to show our third eye when we go out in public. I should have known with your avatar and where you live. You’ll live to 200, and have spidey senses tony@CIC and Kenny B 2 Quote Follow my journey to enjoying golf and going low Driver: Epic Max LS Ventus Black 6x 44.5" 3wHL: Rogue ST LS 75x Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink 7w: Apex UW 21* MMT 80S DI: Caley 01X 18* with KBS PGH Stiff plus 95g 4-AW: 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched Wedges Zipcore Putter: L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue Ball: TBD Shot Tracking: Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0 Grip: Lamkin Sonar + Midsize My Reviews: Caley 01X Driving Iron Review 2023 Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 120 in the MGS Speed Challenge (updated 3/15/23) TAIII #2 Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter ) Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) 0211 2019 Unofficial Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JalanK Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 A couple thoughts after looking at the photos: The cover on the 2019-2020 version is thinner than previous covers. It's possible that could contribute to the differences in appearance. As Titleist redesigns their balls, I'm sure the formula of the cover undergoes changes to help them obtain the characteristics they seek. Did you try moving them around in the light to determine if the position, and how the light hit them had anything to do with the appearance? If you're concerned, contact Titleist and ask them what they think. You might even send then a couple of the wonkier performing balls to analyze and compare to new versions. This is why I don't buy used balls, unless I just want a few for practice. I'd be interested in hearing what Titleist says, if you contact them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffly Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 @ryanokeefe I have found about 5,000 golf balls with a black light and about 15% are Titleist Pro Vs. I have found that sun exposure deteriorates the uv phosphorescence and the clear coat wearing thin also diminishes the glow. Taylormade balls don't glow as bright as Titleist, Callaway, Srixon, and Bridgestone. I would guess the mint lost used balls you find online have been heavily scrubbed to be cleaned and may have had long time sun exposure which both deteriorates the glow. tony@CIC and Vegan_Golfer_PNW 2 Quote Golf is simple - people are complicated. 5w Taylormade SLDR S 19* - 220yd, Ping G2 5-U - 190-105, Maltby M+ 54* & MG 60* - 95-75, Evnroll ER8, Titleist 816 H1 4h 21*, Maltby 4 Hybrid Iron 24* - 210-200, Callaway XR16 8* - 235 carry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavygolffeels Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Lake balls? Clearish water intensifies UV and can practically bleach a golf ball. I'm sure even without visible damage that would have some effect on the coating. Can you perform a quick bounce test? Drop them from the same height on hard surface? Also do the float test in some salt water? BKordon 1 Quote GARSEN GRIP TESTER Driver: PING G400 MAX, Ventus Blue 6x Woods: COBRA F6 Baffler AD DI 8S Hybrid: CALLAWAY Apex Pro, Ventus Blue 8s Irons: SRIXON ZX5 mk2 5-6, ZX7 mk2 7-PW, Modus 120x Wedges: EDEL 50 C grind, 54 V grind, CLEVELAND 60 RTX6 Low Putter: YES Abbie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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