Building your irons?

[Chip Strokes 3,018]

20 minutes ago, RaginCajun said:

They 100% would. Didnt want to buy an oem built set at ~$700, then pay for shafts, grips, and labor while wasting the oem stuff. 

makes sense. 

[Kansas King 230]

1 hour ago, RaginCajun said:

Youre spot on. May keep the stock shafts that come in the c300 forged (kbs tour 105 stiff) to help keep the price down. Im a bigger guy so maybe the extra weight wont hurt. Thoughts about this?

I would try them and see how they feel. The Tour 105 will be about 15 grams heavier and is intended for a mid/high launch. The XP95 is a very high launching steel shaft. I've found that as long as steel shafts aren't too heavy and similar in flex, the launch doesn't actually change much. Steel shafts don't flex like graphite during the swing and since you aren't swinging your irons as fast as a driver, they won't impact dynamic loft nearly as much. The primary difference with steel iron shafts is feel. 

[Manimal26 530]

On 11/19/2020 at 11:07 AM, RaginCajun said:

Hey guys! I have a situation here. Im looking for somewhere that I can purchase a set of used irons but just the heads. So Ive gone through a fitting at a boutique fitting shop here in Denver so I have all of my specs and would have someone build them for me. Just trying to not pay for then trash good shafts and grips. Im not sure what kind of market is out there for used OEM shafts but would rather not deal with it. Im planning on taking lessons but the instructor that I get along with will not teach untill I have a set thats made for my swing. 

@RaginCajun Are you still looking? I might be able to help you out... @ncwoz can attest to my knowledge. I am not perfect but I am a fitter and I try to help people save money but still build high performing sets.

9 hours ago, RaginCajun said:

Youre spot on. May keep the stock shafts that come in the c300 forged (kbs tour 105 stiff) to help keep the price down. Im a bigger guy so maybe the extra weight wont hurt. Thoughts about this?

in regards to this extra weight can cause some issues with timing and such, and I am not sure what Golf works charges for assembly, but heads can be found if you know where to go and 2nd swing is a place I try to avoid in all honesty. happy to point you in the right direction though.

[fixyurdivot 9,461]

12 hours ago, RaginCajun said:

Ill have to look into sub70 clubs, not too familiar, but at that price its worth a look.

I think you will find this option very competitive in both performance and price. Also check out the recent Official Forum Review of the 699 Pro's... a couple of testers actually thought they were ok. Unconfirmed, but rumor has it @Tom the Golf Nutsleeps with his .

 

[Tom the Golf Nut 2,664]

6 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

I think you will find this option very competitive in both performance and price. Also check out the recent Official Forum Review of the 699 Pro's... a couple of testers actually thought they were ok. Unconfirmed, but rumor has it @Tom the Golf Nutsleeps with his .

 

My wife is not to happy with me since my irons took her spot in the bed!  At least something in there is shiny and new.......  Okay I'm officially in trouble now. But I just couldn't stop myself. 

[azstu324 2,970]

 
Was looking at maltby for their wedges. Do you have any experience with them? 

You can read my review of the TSW's here

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/38309-maltby-tsw-wedge-5612/

Others have chimed in and given opinions of other wedges from Maltby.

I still absolutely love the wedges! And for the price, I figure I'll just buy a new set of heads every year. I honestly can't see these going out of production for a long time.

Also, if you just want to follow a thread about Maltby clubs, you can check that out here

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/38325-show-us-your-maltby/

the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get..

[RaginCajun 58]

13 hours ago, Manimal26 said:

@RaginCajun Are you still looking? I might be able to help you out... @ncwoz can attest to my knowledge. I am not perfect but I am a fitter and I try to help people save money but still build high performing sets.

in regards to this extra weight can cause some issues with timing and such, and I am not sure what Golf works charges for assembly, but heads can be found if you know where to go and 2nd swing is a place I try to avoid in all honesty. happy to point you in the right direction though.

I am, but like @Kansas King suggested, was able to try out the kbs tour 105 with the D7 forged head. That shaft will work as long as I put a smooth swing on it. So ill most likely play it. Found a new set of c300 forged for $389 on hurricane golf, that price beats some used prices...

@fixyurdivot Go Irsh! The sub70 clubs look sweet and for a bargin. Hope that finish can hold up longer than a few rounds, especially with some whos name is @Manimal26. Ha

 

 

[RaginCajun 58]

10 hours ago, azstu324 said:

You can read my review of the TSW's here

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/38309-maltby-tsw-wedge-5612/

Others have chimed in and given opinions of other wedges from Maltby.

I still absolutely love the wedges! And for the price, I figure I'll just buy a new set of heads every year. I honestly can't see these going out of production for a long time.

Also, if you just want to follow a thread about Maltby clubs, you can check that out here

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/38325-show-us-your-maltby/

the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get..
 

Ill definitely check out bothe threads, thanks for the links. 

Im thinking this will be the route I go for wedges. Have to go with the silver, have nightmares of the black finish wearing off...

[azstu324 2,970]

Ill definitely check out bothe threads, thanks for the links. 
Im thinking this will be the route I go for wedges. Have to go with the silver, have nightmares of the black finish wearing off...

In case you're unaware of how the DBM (diamondized black metal) finish works, it's actually not a coating like the cheap PVD that many major OEM's use. The coloring is implanted into the metal during the forging process. The clubs aren't actually pure black so much as a dark graphite. If you've ever seen the Cobra King MB/CB line or the hogan's, it's the same look.

To give reference, take any set of chrome, steel, silver colored clubs. Play them for a couple years and the color really doesn't change, but the finish just gets dulled a little. I played my DBMs for almost 3 years before switching to the TS-1's and the color went from dark graphite to very dark grey. With a cleaning of WD-40 from time to time, the wear is barely noticeable.

DBM should be the industry standard but sadly it's not. OEM's will save a few bucks with PVD.. and by a few I really mean a likely meaningless amount but that's their thing I guess. And it almost ensures that the customer will be back the next year for another new set because their clubs will look like trash. It's a sad story.

So all that said, if you like the look of black clubs, as long as they're DBM finish, you won't be disappointed.

Just a note on the TSW's, they don't have "micro grooves" in the sense that most others do. I'm talking about the mini milled grooves in between the grooves or patterned around the face. The do however have about 1/3 more grooves than most and as they're spaced closer together and the actual milling of the groove is slightly narrower. What does that mean for performance? Nothing at all. They perform as good as ANYTHING!

the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get..

[fixyurdivot 9,461]

1 hour ago, RaginCajun said:

I am, but like @Kansas King suggested, was able to try out the kbs tour 105 with the D7 forged head. That shaft will work as long as I put a smooth swing on it. So ill most likely play it. Found a new set of c300 forged for $389 on hurricane golf, that price beats some used prices...

@fixyurdivot Go Irsh! The sub70 clubs look sweet and for a bargin. Hope that finish can hold up longer than a few rounds, especially with some whos name is @Manimal26. Ha

 

 

They also have the 699 series which are basically the same head in conventional satin finish.  Good find/price on the C300's; sounds like those were kind of your preference anyway. Hit em well.

[NRJyzr 447]

On 11/23/2020 at 7:14 AM, RaginCajun said:

They 100% would. Didnt want to buy an oem built set at ~$700, then pay for shafts, grips, and labor while wasting the oem stuff. 

I can really relate to that.  Because of vario US factors, I've had to pass on a lot of iron sets, due to having to refit them for flex and the like.

It was a lot more pleasant when DG shafts were only $8 each. 

 

[Manimal26 530]

4 hours ago, RaginCajun said:

I am, but like @Kansas King suggested, was able to try out the kbs tour 105 with the D7 forged head. That shaft will work as long as I put a smooth swing on it. So ill most likely play it. Found a new set of c300 forged for $389 on hurricane golf, that price beats some used prices...

@fixyurdivot Go Irsh! The sub70 clubs look sweet and for a bargin. Hope that finish can hold up longer than a few rounds, especially with some whos name is @Manimal26. Ha

 

 

Sweet man that is awesome! and long story about the manimal name from my college days and should have copy righted it.... nothing like new fresh irons!

[SlowNLow 363]

20 hours ago, Manimal26 said:

@RaginCajun Are you still looking? I might be able to help you out... @ncwoz can attest to my knowledge. I am not perfect but I am a fitter and I try to help people save money but still build high performing sets.

in regards to this extra weight can cause some issues with timing and such, and I am not sure what Golf works charges for assembly, but heads can be found if you know where to go and 2nd swing is a place I try to avoid in all honesty. happy to point you in the right direction though.

Where do you like to look for irons or iron heads?   I like to assemble clubs as a hobby and I am always looking for heads, irons, drivers, wedges, etc.  Ebay is about the only place I go.   Thanks.

Edited November 24, 2020 by SlowNLow

[Manimal26 530]

1 minute ago, SlowNLow said:

Where do you like to look for irons or iron heads?   I like to assemble clubs as a hobby and I am always looking for heads, irons, drivers, wedges, etc.  Ebay is about the only place I go.   Thanks.

depends on what you are looking for and which OEM... 

[SlowNLow 363]

4 minutes ago, Manimal26 said:

depends on what you are looking for and which OEM... 

Say Mizuno JPX-919 Tours or Forged

Edited November 24, 2020 by SlowNLow

[Manimal26 530]

1 minute ago, SlowNLow said:

Say Mizuno JPX-919 Tours

I would get them from someone who is a top mizuno dealer who will have full demo sets and also sells used builds... they will pull the heads and keep the shafts for future builds... 

[RaginCajun 58]

23 hours ago, fixyurdivot said:

They also have the 699 series which are basically the same head in conventional satin finish.  Good find/price on the C300's; sounds like those were kind of your preference anyway. Hit em well.

I was eyeing the 699s until I found that deal on the c300s, Ive hit the c300s so its more piece of mind than anything. 

23 hours ago, azstu324 said:

In case you're unaware of how the DBM (diamondized black metal) finish works, it's actually not a coating like the cheap PVD that many major OEM's use. The coloring is implanted into the metal during the forging process. The clubs aren't actually pure black so much as a dark graphite. If you've ever seen the Cobra King MB/CB line or the hogan's, it's the same look.

To give reference, take any set of chrome, steel, silver colored clubs. Play them for a couple years and the color really doesn't change, but the finish just gets dulled a little. I played my DBMs for almost 3 years before switching to the TS-1's and the color went from dark graphite to very dark grey. With a cleaning of WD-40 from time to time, the wear is barely noticeable.

DBM should be the industry standard but sadly it's not. OEM's will save a few bucks with PVD.. and by a few I really mean a likely meaningless amount but that's their thing I guess. And it almost ensures that the customer will be back the next year for another new set because their clubs will look like trash. It's a sad story.

So all that said, if you like the look of black clubs, as long as they're DBM finish, you won't be disappointed.

Just a note on the TSW's, they don't have "micro grooves" in the sense that most others do. I'm talking about the mini milled grooves in between the grooves or patterned around the face. The do however have about 1/3 more grooves than most and as they're spaced closer together and the actual milling of the groove is slightly narrower. What does that mean for performance? Nothing at all. They perform as good as ANYTHING!

the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get..
 

Thanks for dropping that knowledge! I have nam flashbacks of the PVD finish wearing off of my Ci11s. Next wedge will for sure be a Maltby. 

[chipa 3]

I put together my own clubs and buy my components mostly from Hireko and Monark Golf. I play a small cast blade Acer Tour XV with little offset that I really like. In fact they are the best hitting irons I have ever had. I have a Maltby LW which I really like too because it is small like my blades and I picked it up for $15 on ebay with the grooves in great shape. I have a Modeo 5 wood which seems to be good for around 220 normally and it's easy to hit from the fairway. I'm going to pick up a 4h to round out my set.  I play cheap Apollo lightweight shafts that kick like DG S300's and I love them probably because at 20g lighter I feel the clubhead a lot better.

[RaginCajun 58]

Hey guys. Want to give yall some closure and thank everyone that chimed in and dropped some knowledge to help me make a good informed decision. 

So I ended up going with the wilson staff c300 forged +2* up, kbs tour 105 stiff shaft .5" over, and some midsize GP CP2 grips. Hit them on the GC2 and thought, "these numbers and ball flight cant be right." So played 18 yesterday down in canon city, CO and was blown away! Coming from my standard length and lie uniflex shafted Wilson Ci11s, Contact was night and day, way more consistent. My misses went from wicked hozel rocket slices that went more right than down the fairway to pushes that were in the right rough or just OB, even managed to pull one or two which was unimaginable with my old irons. 

Im converted, I used to be in the camp of lessons and pracrice can overcome any club. Now seeing how much a fitting can help your game its a no brainer for anyone who golfs regularly.