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My putter needs to change its operator vs the other way around. Sadly I didn't win the Odyssey O works contest. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy

Since last year, I've gone through 3 other putters and finally landed on one I like a LOT. All prior ones of course were all PING and all Anser style. Started with a 35", down to a couple at 34's and

My best friend, golfing partner, and playing companion for over 50 years, uses the same putter that he used when he was 12 years old. That's when we started golfing together. We are now both 61 years

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Used to game an Odyssey White Hot Pro #9, but replaced it with my current gamer because I had a hard time with the way it sat at address. Some days, I would put the Odyssey down by the ball and everything looked exactly as it should and I'd put a good stroke on it. Other days it just never looked right to me and I'd manipulate the stroke based on what I saw. Don't really know why the #9 was so difficult for me, but it just was. I demoed several models before settling on my 6m, but nothing felt as good or setup as easy (going from 34" to 33" didn't hurt either). I think I'm averaging about 1.7 putts per hole now and even had one round earlier this season where I averaged 1.4. This club won't be leaving my bag anytime soon.

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Hyrbrid: Mizuno CLK 19* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB
Irons: Nike Vapor Pro Combo (4-PW) Dynamic Gold Pro S300
Wedges: Bridgestone Tour B XW-1 50*, 54*, & 58* Nippon Modus 3 105
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On 3/8/2010 at 10:22 PM, GolfSpy_X said:

Putters are still the most changed club in the bag.

 

So this made me wonder...what makes YOU change to a different putter?

 

Tell me all the things in the past about a putter that have made you want to make a change.

 

Some examples: (weight, hosel, feel, finish, or anything outside of those that make you want to change)

Feel first then looks.

I've had expensive Scotties that felt like a dull Clunk and went nowhere, to mallets that you couldn't even feel the ball come off the face.

My current Ping Anser 2 makes a beautiful sound off the sweetspot but feels light, so I'm probably going to keep looking/changing until the right putter finds me.

Driver     Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs)  
4 Wood   Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+  :callaway-small: Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex

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Irons         Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW   :mizuno-small:  N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S'

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Putter        'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5"

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Oh, for the cliché obvious reason that I _think_ a new putter is magically going to work better than the previous one!

Was using an Odyssey 1W for a few seasons (after going through a few putters of varying styles my first few seasons golfing) but then as I got more serious about improving my game, my putting didn't seem to keep up...

Tried different styles of gripping the putter, slightly moving the ball position up/back or in/out, adding lead tape to the flange, bending it another degree upright, having a shop check the loft vs my setup, tried straightening out my stroke, worked on the "clock" drill, etc.

So what's a guy to do?

Try another putter, of course!

First test was a long face-balanced mallet. Liked this for longer putts as it seemed to help with distance control, but otoh was not better on short putts. This was a Cleveland model and what I did like was the TFI face - very soft yet solid feel.

Then, somehow, happily, I was selected for the MLA XDream review (yea!) ... and then that became "the" putter. Good on distance control and good on short putts. So it displaced the 1W.

Then..... This season..... Dunno but wasn't 100% feeling it.....

More lessons and more work on the full swing but the putting was not commensurately improving despite consistent practice. So... Picked up a used very widebody flange Machine M2A Converter out of the Classifieds (also a full milled head, no face insert) and that felt like it was helping me putt better...

..until it wasn't...

Again felt like the putting sort of plateaued while the full swing continued to improve.

So put the M2A and the XDream side by side on the practice mat at home and at the practice green outside. I also resurrected an old iPhone 4 and put the old iPing app on it to test my putting stroke - told me I'm on the borderline going from Slight Arc to Strong Arc, suggesting I might benefit from more toe hang.

So I re-weighted the XDream to both make it a bit heavier and to add a little more toe hang, then added a bit more lead tape to the M2A to get about the same amount of toe hang and then back to the practice mat and the practice green.

Not counting score but just observing with which putter I seemed to be starting putts on my line more frequently plus which left me with easy 2-putts .. ie. with which I had better distance control and helped with 3-putt avoidance .. more often -- the XDream turned out to be the winner.

So that's my putter story.

And - of course - through all this I've come to realize that to really improve my on-course putting performance ... I really need to get better at (well .. getting the approach much closer to the hole! ..but really...) reading greens.

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I don’t switch often but I will if performance is better on a newer model.


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Driver: Nike Vapor Flex with Mitsubishi Rayon Fubuki ZT60x5ct S-flex shaft and stock grip.

3-Metal: Nike VRS 15 degree with Mitsubishi Rayon tour issue Diamana S73x5ct X-flex shaft and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grip.

Irons: Ben Hogan PTx 22, 26, 30, 34, 38, 42, 46 degrees standard length and lie with KBS Tour-V stiff shafts and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grips.

Wedges: Ben Hogan TK15 54, 58 degrees with KBS Tour-V X-flex shafts and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grips.

Putter: Nike Method Converge B1|01 with Superstroke Flatso 2.0 grip.

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Need to see a different look or a different feel when things get out of whack 

Driver: Titleist 917D3 9.5 with Graphite Design MAD Pro 65g S

Wood: Titleist 917F2 with UST Mamiya Helium 5F4

Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21 with Atmos Blue 85 S

Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125

Wedges: Vokey SM7 46/50/54/60 with DG s200

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

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Up until about 3 years ago, I had the same putter for over 20 years. I won that putter at a Church Festival. It was at a putting booth. For like 2 bucks you got 3 putts on a astro-turf green , with a severe left to right break, from about 25 feet.  I drained 3 putts out of 3 putts and won the putter. It was a black Stan Thompson, with an Anser style head. No, great putter on the market by any means. But, that putter worked for me. It was kind of like Walter Matthau's Green Hornet in Grumpy Old Men. It was me and Stan. Then one round on the green Stan's head broke off. I was devasted. I tried about 4 putters for about 21/2 years. Different heads, Kuchar style, you name it. I could not find Stan. Bought a Stan on e bay and tried that, it was not the same. I'm happy to say, this year around end of April, I bought a Cleveland Huntington Beach 1. I really like it. I am comfortable with it, and have reasonable confidence in myself with it. That being said , it is not my original Stan. Stan, was like your first kiss. It may not be your forever true love, but it was a memory I will never forget.

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I don't.  No need.  I hit putts where I aim them, and distance control is reasonably good.  Why would I change? 😏

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Basically for me it is just screwing around with different putters because I have so many vintage ones. Part of my fun now that I do not take golf seriously. But if I am serious and the money is really on the line either my rusty Scotty or my Zing 2 is in the bag. Yesterday the rusty Scotty was in the bag and I putted real good with it. Bear told me I needed to stop screwing around and keep it in the bag. Yeah I told him basically you are right but I have so much fun screwing around with my old Bullseyes or Armour Ironmasters or Spalding TP Mills or for that matter my old Tad Moore putters too not to mention some of my older Pings. 

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My putters in rotation as follow:

Evnroll ER6
Bellum -Winmore 707
Nike Method Drone
SC Kombi
Slotline SKM693

I was not putting very well, so I started the rotation, after a week with Bellum-Winmore, I switched to the Nike and was rolling very smooth. Now I am ready to switch back to the Evnroll.

Don’t ask me why, but it makes the Evnroll work better....LOL


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Since last year, I've gone through 3 other putters and finally landed on one I like a LOT. All prior ones of course were all PING and all Anser style. Started with a 35", down to a couple at 34's and finally landed on my current B60 measuring in at 33" and is my fourth flat stick in roughly 12-months. I love this thing and it should be with me for a long, long time. Even tough it hails from their Vault 2.0 series, it's not a real looker, nor is it a piece of jewelry like a Scotty, but damn! It really putts well for me. It'd better. All other sticks are gone...🙄

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Driver
:    :ping-small: G410 SFT, set to 9.5*, Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 60, stiff (MGS Official 2019 Tester)
3W:          :ping-small: G-Series SF TEC, set to 16*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff
5W:          :ping-small: G400 SFT, set to 19*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff
7W:         :ping-small: G410 SFT, set to 22*. Alta CB 65 Red, stiff

Irons:       :ping-small: GMax, Green Dot, 5-PW, Project X Graphite Blue 6.0, 80-90g , stiff
Wedges: :ping-small: Glide 2.0 Stealth, 50* SS, 54* ES & 60*/8 Forged MGS Special from the Wedge Wizard, Green Dot, Alta CB graphite, 84g, stiff
Putter:     :ping-small: Vault 2.0 B60 Copper, 33", black dot w/GP SNSR grip (PING Sigma 2 Fetch under "see-trials")
Ball:       :Snell: MTB BLACK (MGS Official 2018 Tester for the :Snell: MTB RED)
Shoes:     :footjoy-small:  Classics Tour w/Black Widow Softspikes

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8 hours ago, PING Apologist #9 said:

Since last year, I've gone through 3 other putters and finally landed on one I like a LOT. All prior ones of course were all PING and all Anser style. Started with a 35", down to a couple at 34's and finally landed on my current B60 measuring in at 33" and is my fourth flat stick in roughly 12-months. I love this thing and it should be with me for a long, long time. Even tough it hails from their Vault 2.0 series, it's not a real looker, nor is it a piece of jewelry like a Scotty, but damn! It really putts well for me. It'd better. All other sticks are gone...🙄

HA HA you aint seen my Scotty it is far from a piece of jewelry. It is rusty and beat up. It is actually a scrap pile refugee because I found it on a pile of scrap at work. Now from the pics I am going to try to post this is what it looks like. It has two names around here> "Junkyard Refugee" and "The Rusty SOB Scotty" I just call her "Rusty"20160112_155541.jpg20160115_171623.jpg20160112_184552.jpg

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4 wood Adams Tight Lies 

20* Hybrid Adams Boxer Ozik Matrix R shaft

24* Hybrid Adams A 10-OS Pro Launch Red R

Irons 5 thru PW 1980 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex #2 shafts

SW- Macgregor LRA 56* S-400

Putter 1997 Santa Fe rusty as heck

 

 

 

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23 hours ago, BIG STU said:

HA HA you aint seen my Scotty it is far from a piece of jewelry. It is rusty and beat up. It is actually a scrap pile refugee because I found it on a pile of scrap at work. Now from the pics I am going to try to post this is what it looks like. It has two names around here> "Junkyard Refugee" and "The Rusty SOB Scotty" I just call her "Rusty"20160112_155541.jpg20160115_171623.jpg20160112_184552.jpg

THAT is something else! Must have been drowned in a green-side pond for a while, or in a bog. Wow! To some though, I bet this is the sweetest thing on the planet. I reckon you don't raelly have desire to have it restored, and I kinda wouldn't blame you. Sort of like finding that "barn find" classic car and selling it as-is with all of the "patina" (dust & rust) on it I suppose. Cool pics Stu! Thanks!

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Driver
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3W:          :ping-small: G-Series SF TEC, set to 16*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff
5W:          :ping-small: G400 SFT, set to 19*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff
7W:         :ping-small: G410 SFT, set to 22*. Alta CB 65 Red, stiff

Irons:       :ping-small: GMax, Green Dot, 5-PW, Project X Graphite Blue 6.0, 80-90g , stiff
Wedges: :ping-small: Glide 2.0 Stealth, 50* SS, 54* ES & 60*/8 Forged MGS Special from the Wedge Wizard, Green Dot, Alta CB graphite, 84g, stiff
Putter:     :ping-small: Vault 2.0 B60 Copper, 33", black dot w/GP SNSR grip (PING Sigma 2 Fetch under "see-trials")
Ball:       :Snell: MTB BLACK (MGS Official 2018 Tester for the :Snell: MTB RED)
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A takeoff on a putter thread, after reading the blogon pistol grips I think I'll be spending a couple of bucks on one.


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21 hours ago, PING Apologist #9 said:

THAT is something else! Must have been drowned in a green-side pond for a while, or in a bog. Wow! To some though, I bet this is the sweetest thing on the planet. I reckon you don't raelly have desire to have it restored, and I kinda wouldn't blame you. Sort of like finding that "barn find" classic car and selling it as-is with all of the "patina" (dust & rust) on it I suppose. Cool pics Stu! Thanks!

Actually checked into having it restored when I first found it. The first day I found it I putted with it. I did preliminary clean it with PB Blaster. It was a little light and still had a rotted original grip on it. The Price of restoring it was going to be big. I ended up putting lead tape on the sole anyhow to weight it up for me. I did clean it up some and redid the paint fill on the back and face. Now it has a nice patina. Besides I get a kick on some of the faces of the proper Scotty crowd. I have said in the past I would not game a putter that I have to put a cover on but lately I am using a old non descript Hamilton F-2 cover on it. Makes it easier to get it out of the bag since I have it cut down to 34". I think the reason I used a cover is because someone posted some pics one night on WRX of Brad Faxon's Scotty version of a My Day. It is rusty and has patina and he uses a cover WTF I thought so I use either that Hamilton cover or a old non descript one with palm trees on it. I tend to agree with your theory that it was in a pond somewhere and someone found it and when the found out the cost of restoration scrapped it. 

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4 wood Adams Tight Lies 

20* Hybrid Adams Boxer Ozik Matrix R shaft

24* Hybrid Adams A 10-OS Pro Launch Red R

Irons 5 thru PW 1980 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex #2 shafts

SW- Macgregor LRA 56* S-400

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My best friend, golfing partner, and playing companion for over 50 years, uses the same putter that he used when he was 12 years old. That's when we started golfing together. We are now both 61 years old. Not sure the make and model, as the inscription is worn. He catches a lot of crap about that putter. Like , what Miniature Golf Course did he steal that from? They stop laughing, when they are opening up their wallett. He, is one of the best putters, I know. He sees , no reason to change and if I putted like him, I wouldn't either.

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So, I've been thinking about what draws me to certain shapes and designs in the putter space that are tempting to to maybe move on from My Pipe... and I've hit on a couple things that move my personal needle.

1) Odd shapes. Obviously the Pipe isn't what one would call a traditional looking putter, and those seemingly are the ones that catch my eye. I guess it started when I picked up the OG Scotty Futura in a Dick's Sporting goods and just said, that's really cool. Since then shapes like Craz-e, Ug-Le, Doc from Ping, Nike's Method Concept and Blue Chip Oz, Odyssey Sabretooth, NC Voodoo and Voodoo Daddy, and others have run through my heads

2) Mallets. Having those high MOI mallets just makes me feel more comfortable, with a couple of exceptions (which I'll discuss in point three). The bigger the head the more likely I am to like it. TM Spiders, Evnroll ER9, Hell, Odyssey Tri-Ball, Seemore Giant. Big head equals big weight and makes me a confident boy.

3) Long and extended sight lines. This is probably the biggest thing for me. It's why the Pipe reigns supreme in my bag and has avoided every challenger. That long pipe on the back helps me visualize the stroke path and allows me to see when and where I'm starting on the stroke to make sure I deliver it back to the square every time. It's why it was a choice between that putter and the original Rife 2 Bar Mallet, it's all about the sight lines. It's why I'd be willing to roll a blade, but only the Scotty Cameron Detour, because of that long line up bar. Give me those lines and I feel confident, anything else makes me queasy.

So that's it, what would make me switch putters or make a choice in a future putter with more appreciable tech.

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Hasn’t been a lot of posts recently for TXG YouTube videos but they have recently done a few putter videos on face tech and toe hang that are informative. If you are looking for some information on putter design I recommend taking a look. Based on comments in the video they are planning on more putting videos soon.

 

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Wedge:  :cleveland-small: 588 54-14, 58-12
Putter:  :odyssey-small: Ten S      Backups:  :bobby-grace-1: 6330,   :EVNROLL: ER2.2,  

 

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10 hours ago, KevinE said:

My best friend, golfing partner, and playing companion for over 50 years, uses the same putter that he used when he was 12 years old. That's when we started golfing together. We are now both 61 years old. Not sure the make and model, as the inscription is worn. He catches a lot of crap about that putter. Like , what Miniature Golf Course did he steal that from? They stop laughing, when they are opening up their wallett. He, is one of the best putters, I know. He sees , no reason to change and if I putted like him, I wouldn't either.

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That looks like a old Northwestern to me. Hey it does not matter. I once knew of a guy that putted with a putt putt type putter and I will point out he was a big money gambler too. I think his was an old Kroyden. I remember Doyle Brunson out in Vegas quipped the " that guy has won enough with that old Kroyden putter he could have bought the Kroyden factory". 

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