Distance or accuracy?

[Shankster 26,386]

PING.  
 

 

 

[ZenGolfer 813]

Id go for the more accurate one.  You can always swing a bit harder and get a few more yards out of it if accuracy isnt a concern.  If youre spraying it all over the place, distance doesnt really matter unless its 50 yards longer.

[CarlH 5,374]

 

  Long and wrong isn't conducive to good scores.    

[tony@CIC 18,739]

I never really gave ping a thought because i really dont like the feel of their irons even when it was flush.  But their driver is winning this battle, the only thing that i dont like are the speed bumps in top but that is not a deal breaker.

Ping irons don't work for me, but interestingly my 410 driver always finds the fairways. My fitter did cut it down 1/2" inch.


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[cnosil 17,025]

For 10 yards,  I'd go based on dispersion.   That said,  you didn't say how bad the dispersion was on the Callaway.   Misses with the driver are about 60 yards wide. 

[Kansas King 271]

I think there are some good comments on the this thread and I myself would also lean towards tighter dispersion. However, I would also suggest thinking about which driver felt better during the swing. Was there one that you felt you could swing more controlled or swing faster while maintaining a good tempo? Both driver heads are good but getting the shaft to feel right is important as it really dictates how comfortable you feel with the club. The other thing to keep in mind is that you will adjust to your driver over time. So the dispersion and distance numbers on a launch monitor from a single session, if there aren't major differences, aren't necessarily the most telling of how you will play with the club long-term. However, if there was a big dispersion or distance disparity, I would certainly get the better performing driver.

[stj51 47]

Accuracy!! The golf course rewards you for hitting fairways, more accuracy, lower scores! 

[higherplane 21]

Also would go with the tighter dispersion if it exists in your stats, not net length.  This is way dramatic and don't wish on anyone but: In Winter 2019 landed badly skiing, PT followed, by summer was still loosing 50-70 yards of distance, but shorter length made for better dispersion.   Handicap did not get nearly the bump, 2-3 per round, proving the point that accuracy trumps distance.                                    

 

[NRJyzr 576]

Just as has been mentioned by others, I would take the accuracy over the extra distance.  The disclaimer that should be added...  I've not lacked for distance in my time playing golf, coming from a baseball background, with soccer/futbol legs and a former weightlifting habit.  It's easier to give up distance when you have it.  

Ironically, now that I'm 57, with fun injuries added, I find myself sometimes chasing distance at the expense of accuracy.  Even more ironic because it's not like I have all that much accuracy to trade.

Having lived the dream, I can say it's a lot more fun to hit an extra club or even two from the fairway, or just off, than it is hitting punch 2 irons /3 irons out of the trees.  I don't care how good I've gotten at a punch long iron, with all the practice I've had, it's not going to make up the difference. 

 

[pasta 21]

On 11/29/2020 at 8:27 PM, cnosil said:

 

On 11/29/2020 at 8:27 PM, cnosil said:

For 10 yards,  I'd go based on dispersion.   That said,  you didn't say how bad the dispersion was on the Callaway.   Misses with the driver are about 60 yards wide. 

Well it was roughly 20-30 yards more right on average, it would most likley end up in the trees where i am. I dont know if the confidence is there with the maverick because of that. 

 

[pasta 21]

On 11/30/2020 at 10:27 AM, Kansas King said:

I think there are some good comments on the this thread and I myself would also lean towards tighter dispersion. However, I would also suggest thinking about which driver felt better during the swing. Was there one that you felt you could swing more controlled or swing faster while maintaining a good tempo? Both driver heads are good but getting the shaft to feel right is important as it really dictates how comfortable you feel with the club. The other thing to keep in mind is that you will adjust to your driver over time. So the dispersion and distance numbers on a launch monitor from a single session, if there aren't major differences, aren't necessarily the most telling of how you will play with the club long-term. However, if there was a big dispersion or distance disparity, I would certainly get the better performing driver.

That is what i have really taken into consideration,  and the ping did feel better in a tactile way. The hit felt solid and the sound was appealing. I know in time i might be ablento get comfortable with the maverick, but will it happen before i get too frustrated. That is why im going to go with the ping i believe. 

[cnosil 17,025]

 

Well it was roughly 20-30 yards more right on average, it would most likley end up in the trees where i am. I dont know if the confidence is there with the maverick because of that.

More right doesnt describe the width of a dispersion pattern. A dispersion pattern has a center and goes out equally left and right. This tells you where to aim when setting up on the tee. If you are 20-30 yards more right then move your target that much left.

[Nolan220 754]

On 11/29/2020 at 1:44 PM, fixyurdivot said:

Club shaft length, and more specifically the discussion that they are too long for most players, has my attention.  Admittedly much of this has come from my recent reading of Tom Wishon's book but also from discussions on this forum. That the majority of professional tour players are using shorter driver lengths speaks volumes.  They seem to know that the extra 5-7 yards isn't worth the trade for hitting from the rough or in the tree lines.  My current experiment choking down on my standard length G410P is yielding positive results; more FIR's and lower scores.

I choke down about an inch maybe at most inch and a half .. and I been hitting the driver a lot better

 

[pasta 21]

1 hour ago, cnosil said:

 

More right doesnt describe the width of a dispersion pattern. A dispersion pattern has a center and goes out equally left and right. This tells you where to aim when setting up on the tee. If you are 20-30 yards more right then move your target that much left.

 

The maverick was over 60 yards where as the ping i believe was around 30 on average because i wasnt missing left at all . If i remember correctly. 

[cnosil 17,025]

The maverick was over 60 yards where as the ping i believe was around 30 on average because i wasnt missing left at all . If i remember correctly. 

Then take the ping because PGA players have about a 60 yard wide dispersion pattern.

[Kansas King 271]

12 hours ago, pasta said:

That is what i have really taken into consideration,  and the ping did feel better in a tactile way. The hit felt solid and the sound was appealing. I know in time i might be ablento get comfortable with the maverick, but will it happen before i get too frustrated. That is why im going to go with the ping i believe. 

Sounds like the Ping is the winning answer then. I'm not sure of the actual (not marketing) design differences between the Ping and the Mavrik, but Pings seem to usually be more accurate. I don't know if their designs have a different bulge and roll that leads to more accuracy or what but whatever they do works well.

[Flip4000 50]

I went for the longest club I felt I could control. I went for a fitting and tested the sim and Mavrik SZ and the Mavrik was longer by about 10 yards carry, however I couldn't control it. The Sim was longer than my current gamer, but more accurate than the mavrik, so I went with the Sim. It's really up to the user if they are looking for yards or accuracy. It also depends on what type of courses you are playing. If they are mostly wide open then distance might be the way to go, then you carry a go to 3 wood for when you need to find the fairway. On the flipside if you play courses that require accuracy or have more trees, then it makes sense to go for accuracy.

In general you can never go wrong with hitting the ball more accurately. However I have always gone with the idea of taking the longest carrying driver I felt I could control 

[chadley300 9]

For me, I go for the more accurate one.  I noticed this year that when I can be in the fairway or close to it, my scores were lower.  When I tried to hit for more distance, I was very erratic and half the time it was like taking a penalty shot (hitting back into the fairway) to get into a position to play for the green.

[AlexHowe 4]

On 11/29/2020 at 12:44 PM, fixyurdivot said:

Club shaft length, and more specifically the discussion that they are too long for most players, has my attention.  Admittedly much of this has come from my recent reading of Tom Wishon's book but also from discussions on this forum. That the majority of professional tour players are using shorter driver lengths speaks volumes.  They seem to know that the extra 5-7 yards isn't worth the trade for hitting from the rough or in the tree lines.  My current experiment choking down on my standard length G410P is yielding positive results; more FIR's and lower scores.

The second time I was fitted for a driver my life (Mavrik SZ) the fitter suggested 3/4" shorter than I was currently playing. Large misses are down this year.

[AlexHowe 4]

8 hours ago, Flip4000 said:

I went for the longest club I felt I could control. I went for a fitting and tested the sim and Mavrik SZ and the Mavrik was longer by about 10 yards carry, however I couldn't control it. The Sim was longer than my current gamer, but more accurate than the mavrik, so I went with the Sim. It's really up to the user if they are looking for yards or accuracy. It also depends on what type of courses you are playing. If they are mostly wide open then distance might be the way to go, then you carry a go to 3 wood for when you need to find the fairway. On the flipside if you play courses that require accuracy or have more trees, then it makes sense to go for accuracy.

In general you can never go wrong with hitting the ball more accurately. However I have always gone with the idea of taking the longest carrying driver I felt I could control 

Curious, what's your usual shot shape? Interested in what control issues you had with the Mavrik. Mine is def farther off the tee but struggled with the lefts for a bit after being fitted.