Formula 1

[mikeanthony]

One of my absolute favorite tracks on the F1 calendar is this weekend ... and had to share this clip. Listening to this with the sound up and with headphones on is definite must, you'll be doing yourself a disservice if you don't. Enjoy! 

Also, this is from 2012, long before the turbo-hybrid era ... F1 sounds are nowhere near this level anymore. Incredible cars. 

 

[GolfSpy_APH]

Max is truly on a whole other level right now. 

It's kinda not even fair. 

[Middler]

51 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Max is truly on a whole other level right now. 

It's kinda not even fair. 

Max is probably the best driver now, but the car has a lot to do with how good drivers look. LeClerc seemed to dominate when the season began and Ferrari was clearly ahead of Red Bull in developing their car. And the 7 time world driver champion isn’t in contention now that Mercedes is still trying to find the formula, he can’t even top Russell. 

[GolfSpy_APH]

Even though only one racing lap has happened lots going on. Spoilers ahead.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gasly decides to get a new homemade front wing... Doesn't work then flips out at his crew over something. Time for hin to just get over to Alpine and start crashing with Ocon.

 

Sainz decides to crash out.

Albons luck keeps been awful all around.

Stroll looks like he is playing the F1 game sending it up the inside to start.

And I'm getting a twitch after another delay and me getting flashbacks to spa 2021.

[Thin2win]

I tried to dvr the race so that I could watch it this morning when I woke up. I even set the dvr to record an hour past the expected end time...

I got the first 30 seconds of the race restart after the delay.  so I did moderately better then Sainz getting to lap 3 1/2.

[Thin2win]

Russell with a win!  next year could be a good season with RB , Ferrari,  and Merc.

Verstappen has been unstoppable this year,  but still acts insolent.  Why not give checo the spot at the end? Max remains a horrible teammate. But lordy can be drive.

[ChitownM2]

Yeah Max continues to prove that he is the petulant little b*tch that he showed himself to be last season.  Seemed like he had moved past that this season but apparently not.

Also, good for Hamilton not giving him an inch.  I'm hoping that Merc has got the car figured out and can be back at the top next season so we can get some more Lewis vs. Max action on track. I'd love to see how Max reacts to Lewis having nothing to lose and dive bombing him into every corner and forcing Max to either get out of his way or risk both of them being taken out of the race.

[Berg Ryman]

I mean, look, you've got the title locked under key, wouldn't it be nice to have not only the Constructors but a clear 1-2 in the World Championship?

I will say though, ecstatic for George for getting that maiden win, looks a worthy successor to Hamilton to lead Mercedes once he's gone and I like that the Silver Arrows have seemingly found something here at season's end, maybe good momentum for the 2023 car and season. 

[GolfSpy_APH]

Well was a good race(ish). Sprint was much better. 

Kinda happy the season is at an end though. 

[Golfspy_Lukes]

My son and I really started getting into F1 last year, but man it isn't exciting at all when there is very little passing and Red Bull (and especially Max) just seem so much faster than everyone else.

[Golfspy_Lukes]

17 hours ago, Thin2win said:

Russell with a win!  next year could be a good season with RB , Ferrari,  and Merc.

Verstappen has been unstoppable this year,  but still acts insolent.  Why not give checo the spot at the end? Max remains a horrible teammate. But lordy can be drive.

That is another problem too - Max just doesn't seem likeable.  It he seems spoiled.

[Thin2win]

I know the internet seems to have a pretty big Lewis vs Max spilt.  And the have both done things that rev up the other Camp. 

I'm team Lewis,  so I'll admit I have that bias. I think max is the best driver out there right now.  I just also think he is the most arrogant and worst teammate.

Him and RB have had a dominate outing this year and a deserving championship as a result.  In his interview after the race yesterday max brought up last year's final race as why he thinks Lewis didn't give him more room,  and he also refused team orders to help Checo out based on a perceived slight from earlier this year.  He implied that Lewis was still hung up in the past.  But i think Max is living more in the past then anyone. 

Right or wrong the championship from last year isn't given the credit it should get. Sky sports still called it out as robbery on the broadcasting leaving Max/RB to boycott them for a couple weeks. Then RB exceeding the cost cap by a small amount. Just things that I think really got under Max's skin and he isn't yet able(mature enough) to let go and move past.

But Max bashing aside, , the race for p2 in both constructors and the drivers race is close going into the final race. Should be fun.

[GolfSpy_APH]

5 minutes ago, Thin2win said:

I know the internet seems to have a pretty big Lewis vs Max spilt.  And the have both done things that rev up the other Camp. 

I'm team Lewis,  so I'll admit I have that bias. I think max is the best driver out there right now.  I just also think he is the most arrogant and worst teammate.

Him and RB have had a dominate outing this year and a deserving championship as a result.  In his interview after the race yesterday max brought up last year's final race as why he thinks Lewis didn't give him more room,  and he also refused team orders to help Checo out based on a perceived slight from earlier this year.  He implied that Lewis was still hung up in the past.  But i think Max is living more in the past then anyone. 

Right or wrong the championship from last year isn't given the credit it should get. Sky sports still called it out as robbery on the broadcasting leaving Max/RB to boycott them for a couple weeks. Then RB exceeding the cost cap by a small amount. Just things that I think really got under Max's skin and he isn't yet able(mature enough) to let go and move past.

But Max bashing aside, , the race for p2 in both constructors and the drivers race is close going into the final race. Should be fun.

I just hope next year it is closer. I think having 3 teams close and competing will be very exciting for the championship as a whole. 

[ChitownM2]

23 hours ago, Golfspy_Lukes said:

My son and I really started getting into F1 last year, but man it isn't exciting at all when there is very little passing and Red Bull (and especially Max) just seem so much faster than everyone else.

If you think there was very little passing, it's a good thing you weren't watching for the last 7 or 8 years.  The new aero rules for this season have made things tremendously better.  Cars use to have to stay 2 seconds behind the car in front in order to have grip and not destroy their tires.  Now they can tuck up right behind the wing of the guy in front and pressure him into a mistake or be close enough to make a pass when the opportunity arises.  That simply wasn't possible before since they relied on being in clean air to make their downforce.

Now that the season is almost over I think it is fair to say that the new aero rules were a huge success.  The racing has been much better to watch and I'll be curious to see the statistics on # of overtakes vs. previous years, and if they are tracking it, the # of non-DRS overtakes vs. before.  That latter stat, I feel, is going to be substantially higher.  I don't think they are to the point where they can get rid of DRS, but it's moving the right direction so hopefully with another year of engineering it gets even better and they can get rid of DRS for 2024 or 2025 as they originally planned.

[ChitownM2]

20 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

I just hope next year it is closer. I think having 3 teams close and competing will be very exciting for the championship as a whole. 

I think it will definitely be closer, both with the 3 up front and the rest of the pack bunching up and moving closer to the big 3.  That's really what the cost cap is going to do.  The big 3 teams are still riding all the knowledge, etc they gained from the unrestricted era but it will be hard if not impossible to stay that far ahead of the other teams with the cost cap limiting what they can do.  That's why they structured the wind tunnel time based on the standings.

[Golfspy_Lukes]

57 minutes ago, ChitownM2 said:

If you think there was very little passing, it's a good thing you weren't watching for the last 7 or 8 years.  The new aero rules for this season have made things tremendously better.  Cars use to have to stay 2 seconds behind the car in front in order to have grip and not destroy their tires.  Now they can tuck up right behind the wing of the guy in front and pressure him into a mistake or be close enough to make a pass when the opportunity arises.  That simply wasn't possible before since they relied on being in clean air to make their downforce.

Now that the season is almost over I think it is fair to say that the new aero rules were a huge success.  The racing has been much better to watch and I'll be curious to see the statistics on # of overtakes vs. previous years, and if they are tracking it, the # of non-DRS overtakes vs. before.  That latter stat, I feel, is going to be substantially higher.  I don't think they are to the point where they can get rid of DRS, but it's moving the right direction so hopefully with another year of engineering it gets even better and they can get rid of DRS for 2024 or 2025 as they originally planned.

Yeah I admit I hadn't followed before last year.

It just seems that there are some garbage circuits they race on that are great for qualifying and hot laps, but do not promote any sort of actual racing/passing.

[GolfSpy_APH]

33 minutes ago, Golfspy_Lukes said:

Yeah I admit I hadn't followed before last year.

It just seems that there are some garbage circuits they race on that are great for qualifying and hot laps, but do not promote any sort of actual racing/passing.

The other part of it for me was last year was so eventful with max and lewis and with Ferrari dropping off so quickly this year compared to red bull it just felt like a dudish of a year. It wasn't a bad year by any means and there were plenty of good story lines but compared to the previous year it was almost always going to be a letdown. Minus Spa. Was great to see a race there even when Max was about 8 minutes ahead of the whole field.

[xOldBenKenobiX]

This season was tough with Max and Red bull dominating pretty much the entire season, it was nice to see a shake up in Brazil with teams struggling and Mercedes on a 1 and 2 finish.

I was hoping for a more competitive season where all 3 teams would be fighting for the title this weekend, I do hope to see a much closer and competitive season next year.

[Berg Ryman]

I will say this, as an American I'll be glued to the F2 races this weekend on Yas Island. Logan Sargent needs to finish Top7 or 8 in the F2 championship to get enough points for his super license to fill that second spot for Williams next season if he completes his points in practice. Tense times but looks likely a Yank joins the grid in 2023.

[ChitownM2]

3 hours ago, Golfspy_Lukes said:

Yeah I admit I hadn't followed before last year.

It just seems that there are some garbage circuits they race on that are great for qualifying and hot laps, but do not promote any sort of actual racing/passing.

I did not mean my comment to be disparaging, only to say that you are coming in at a good time.  Prior to this year it was even more of a single file procession at an even greater number of tracks compared to this season.