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On 12/3/2020 at 8:00 PM, Shankster said:

And 70000000000 weeks at number 1?

This part right here IMO is a big part of why it’s Tiger.

Also the number of events played without missing a cut. Is pretty impressive too 

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On 12/3/2020 at 3:18 PM, Shankster said:

So I showed my wife a picture today of Seve from the 85 Masters... and I asked her who it was and she said Arnie... jokingly of course... so I then tested her golf knowledge and showed her a picture of Jack and Arnie and asked who Arnie was. She point at Jack and said he’s the best golfer there ever was.

I corrected her and told her that was Jack, but she knew he was the G.O.A.T.... but he didn’t have a flashy name or Iced Tea our so she knew Arnie’s name.

She said Arnie is more of a GOAT than Tiger... and I am half tempted to agree. 

So, let’s hash this our again... why? Because it is 2020!... for a few more weeks.

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In my humble opinion, I believe that Arnie in his time and Tiger in his time did more for the game of golf exposing it to millions whom would not have otherwise been exposed to it than Jack ever has.  Hence why Arnie was always considered the common-man's champion and the army followed him so closely.  Tiger, likewise, opened the door even moreso to a whole other group of golfers that were often times neglected and or forgotten all-together.  Jack was more focused on the competition and winning that next tournament with less emphasis of being a man of the people.  Not that it's a horrible thing either.  It just wasn't his nature to be the guy Arnie and or Tiger were / are until Jack's playing days ended.  After which, I suggest that Jack has done an awful lot for the game.  I'm thankful for all three, personally. 

Jack, by comparison to the other two gentlemen however took the GAME of golf (skill, performance, etc...) to a level in which you cannot deny makes him the GOAT.  Now, I know that is a mighty unpopular opinion amongst many of the younger generation, but there is some logic behind that statement.  AND one underlying aspect to the whole argument that we simply will never be able to answer.  Equipment. 

Jack played in an era where Woods were actually WOODS.   He played in an error where you had a hung of metal on the end of a shaft that offered NO assistance at all.  He played in an era where the balls were wound and or balata's both of which flew a fraction of what today's modern balls do.  He also played in an era where some of the stiffest competition from a Hall of Fame perspective existed.  Could Tiger have replicated his success during this era?  I would offer "probably."  BUT we will never know.  Could any of today's modern golfers be handed that equipment and succeeded?  I would offer only a fraction could with the rest of them failing more often than not.  

The argument of GOAT in any sport is so subjective.  One can point out advancements in whatever phase of the game they'd like and we'd go round and round in circles.  Having lived through the tail end of Jack's career and all of Tigers I have arrived at one simple statement that facilitates my entire view on the subject.  Both Jack and Tiger are the two best to ever swing a club.  Jack edges tiger in Major wins and that puts him just a hair ahead of him.  Total win's isn't an argument that needs introduced because if we went that route, Sam Snead would have always been considered the best to ever do it because until recent he held the total wins record.  

To your post and or statement though, if I were looking at who has done more for the sport of golf I think you definitely could make an argument that during Arnie's time he did for golf what Tiger has done during his time.  All three are beloved and rightfully so in my humble opinion. 

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IMHO to be thought of as a "G.O.A.T", takes more than just numbers, there has to be MORE than just that.

Personally, I don't believe in GOATS, I believe there is "The Best during " and "My Favorite" because there is too many variables and even more what if's. 

Tiger Woods is mentioned as a GOAT, he is given accolades for doing so much for golf, but I think the media deserves some of that credit also, golf has also done ALOT for Tiger too.

Could Tiger Woods have as many wins had he driven from tournament to tournament like many pro's did in the 50's rather than private jets? We will never know.

Could Ben Hogan have won many more majors had he not been injured and flown to tournaments like today's stars? We will never know.

Could Jack Nicklaus won more had he played with todays equipment? We will never know.

 

 

 

 

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Tiger played the most dominant golf for 1, 3, 5, and 10 year periods than anyone has ever seen. Four straight majors (the Tiger Slam). 7 wins in a row. Three different times he won 5 or more tournaments in a row. He had two different periods of a year each that he won more than half his starts. Over 7 years without missing a cut. That is a long enough period of time of dominance to be the GOAT, despite not catching Jack on career majors. 

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Bobby Jones.

Amateur status but only one who won all Majors in one year, the real Grand Slam not what they call it now, simply just winning all of them in your lifetime.

He did with clubs, balls and clothing that are so under performing than now.

True GOAT.

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Bobby Jones was ridiculously amazing. Obviously, he was a phenomenal golfer, in 1930 winning the original Grand Slam of championships (US Open, British Open, US Amateur, and British Amateur) at the age of 28. After retiring, he co-founded Augusta National, The Masters, and earned degrees from Georgia Tech (Mechanical Engineering) and Harvard (English).

Did I mention he was also an infantry captain on the shores of Normandy in WWII?

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I mean if we are going to go back.  We might as well go All the way back…

Tom Morris has to be the G.G.O.A.T. In this case. Grandfather Golf Of All Time.

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