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On 4/28/2021 at 8:24 PM, Tom the Golf Nut said:

Having my clubs on the back of the chair lift going over the Intercoastal Waterway was stressful to saythe least. 

Got that right😱

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3 hours ago, fozcycle said:

This will be the second course shuttered where I played.....Ugh!

So, it's your fault then...

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1 hour ago, MattF said:

So, it's your fault then...

Ha Ha….I guess so…..

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Looks like July 31st will be the last day to play golf at Pebble Creek in New Tampa. The staff are pretty disappointed.  I guess the Saturday Game and the weekly Seniors games will all move to Plantation Palms, located just 10 miles away.  I do not know what the local HOA is going to do to protect their property values.  
 

Plantation Palms GC already has a Saturday game so we will piggyback off them until November then decide how to merge. I use a proprietary formula in excel to identify the top 5 rounds then average the Stableford points.  The other group uses the old +1 point added to the previous week for every +3 points above their quota, if they cash, etc. We will have to vote on which game to go forward.  Merging two 40+ groups will mean a lot of work running the game.

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19 hours ago, fozcycle said:

Looks like July 31st will be the last day to play golf at Pebble Creek in New Tampa. The staff are pretty disappointed.  I guess the Saturday Game and the weekly Seniors games will all move to Plantation Palms, located just 10 miles away.  I do not know what the local HOA is going to do to protect their property values.  
 

Plantation Palms GC already has a Saturday game so we will piggyback off them until November then decide how to merge. I use a proprietary formula in excel to identify the top 5 rounds then average the Stableford points.  The other group uses the old +1 point added to the previous week for every +3 points above their quota, if they cash, etc. We will have to vote on which game to go forward.  Merging two 40+ groups will mean a lot of work running the game.

got this email today:

 

Dear Members,

 

Pebble Creek Golf Club will close permanently following our last day on July 31st after 54 years of operation.  We sincerely thank you very much for your patronage and friendship.

 

We hope you will continue with us and consider a special offer to transfer your membership to Plantation Palms Golf Club in nearby Land O Lakes -- please see below.

 

My wife and I purchased Pebble Creek in 2005.  At the time, the club was losing money and was in a sad state of disrepair and neglect.  We invested over $2million over the first few years to replace the greens, renovate the course and clubhouse, and to replace aging equipment.  We got into the business solely to run it as a golf club.  It did not occur to us that it would be anything else.

 

The club made its first profit under our ownership in 2008.  It was profitable through 2010, experienced a downturn in 2011 and 2012, made money again from 2013 to 2016, and then has declined steadily since then with losses after capital investment and interest from 2018 to 2020.  Recently, we have had some increase due to covid related outdoor recreation popularity, but not enough to warrant continued operations.

 

Coincidentally, our 2016 renovating and re-opening of Plantation Palms Golf Club just 15 minutes’ drive from Pebble Creek unexpectedly contributed to Pebble Creek’s losses.  Plantation Palm’s proximity, superior layout and new facilities pulled both golf and event customers from Pebble Creek.

 

What success Pebble Creek Golf Club had was largely due to the popularity of Mulligans Pub and the growth and profitability of the banquet business as we expanded our banquet room twice and added the outdoor patio.  Without these ancillary businesses, the golf course would not have survived alone.  Nationally and locally, golf rounds have steadily declined over most of the last 10 years, as younger people turn to other sports, videos and electronics.  Fewer rounds, fewer members and increasing price competition have left less and less money to cover the high fixed costs of maintaining 120+ acres.

 

Even in our surrounding Pebble Creek community, there are just 20 golf club members from the over 1300 homes.  The club cannot survive on this.

 

Additionally, Pebble Creek Golf Club’s finances do not support the ongoing capital investment needed to continue.  The original 54-year old irrigation system is on its last legs and will require $500,000+ to replace.  A $100,000+ clubhouse roof replacement will also be needed.  And, there is also a need to replace over $500,000 in aging maintenance and restaurant equipment.  This is another reason why potential buyers have not stepped up to take over and continue operating as a golf club.

 

Three years ago, a builder asked us to consider selling the club for residential development.  With club finances declining each year and no golf buyers on the horizon, it became clear that this was our best and perhaps only option.  We entered into a contract to sell to the builder, but during preliminary inspections, it was discovered from soil tests that arsenic and other contamination existed from early chemical applications that would require cleanup to meet state-mandated thresholds.  The builder exited the contract.

 

Over the past 9 months, we paid an independent environmental testing firm to do extensive soil testing to determine exactly what cleanup is necessary and what it may cost.  Based on this data, we are working with a new builder that will have us doing the $1M+ soil cleanup to make the property acceptable to state levels and to their satisfaction for safe development.  We have stipulated with the developer that they must work with the community and the Pebble Creek Homeowner’s Associations to design a plan and amenities that provide the most acceptable and mutually beneficial outcome.

 

The next phase is yet to be determined for Pebble Creek Golf Club, but once the golf course is closed, the club will not re-open.  The property’s underlying use is residential and units remain in the original Pebble Creek Community development plan.  If development is approved, it will only be with community concurrence that will limit the number of units, provide for higher-priced single family homes, and add amenities and traffic control features desirable to the community.  

 

This is not what we originally planned for Pebble Creek Golf Club, but it is the most viable solution we know as experienced, long-term golf course operators.  We have enjoyed running the club for over 15 years and have tried to set the stage for the future with a responsible, community-focused builder that will do right for Pebble Creek.

 

Sincerely,

Bill Place and Su Lee

 

 

Special Offer to Current Pebble Creek Members

 

After 4 years of renovation, Plantation Palms is nearly restored to its 4-star Golf Digest rating and was voted 2nd Place (Silver) “Best of the Best” Golf courses by the Tampa Bay Times readership.  Pebble Creek Member Special Offers include:

 

- Full Golf Members – no cart fees through August. No dues increases for a year.

- Cart Lease members – no cart lease charge for August

- Player Development Memberships (PDM) include free walking and $10 cart fee after 1pm. No member dues for Pebble Creek PDM members in August.

- LED Lighted 9-acre driving range with Covershots shaded grass tees. Range Balls are half price for all members.  All Pebble Creek members will receive a free small bucket each visit during August.

- Free Weekly Golf Clinic Saturday Mornings at 9:30am

- Golf Leagues on Wednesday and Friday Nights – Wed Scramble League, Friday Night Quota Points League – just $5 for full golf members and $10 for PDM members. Includes greens fee, cart fee, range ball token and closest to pin prize payout

- 18 Hole Miniature Golf Course – One free round every day in August for member and one guest

- An expanded Mulligans Irish Pub with a large veranda, and a large banquet facility.

 

These offers are valid as stated for members transferring their memberships from Pebble Creek to Plantation Palms by August 1st.  Our Pebble Creek and Plantation Palms Golf staff will be available with membership forms to assist with transfers and to answer any questions you may have.

 

With the 7/31 closing, Pebble Creek charging privileges will be suspended starting on 7/1.  We apologize to those who have loved and played Pebble Creek for so long.  We wish that the golf market was such that this closure would not be necessary.  We hope you will give Plantation Palms a try and give us the opportunity to serve you there.

 

Sincerely,

Bill Place and Su Lee

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open?upn=W3AnzcFit5ixLMXQOtWrs8KMtEJL-2FThis received on the day I won the Saturday Gsme….what a let down.

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From the Tampa Bay Times today, C.T. Bowen reports....

New Tampa’s Pebble Creek golf course to close

The 54-year-old Pebble Creek Golf Club, once the centerpiece of a burgeoning New Tampa community, is closing next month.

The shutdown is in anticipation of the 150-acre property being converted to residential development. It comes six months after owner Bill Place of Ace Golf unsuccessfully sought a Hillsborough County brownfield designation to help with the cost of cleaning chemical contaminants from the soil.

Place, who purchased the club in 2005, announced the closing, effective July 31, in a letter to club members over the weekend.

In it, he repeated much of the same information he shared with Pebble Creek residents and Hillsborough County officials last year during his brownfield application.

Notably, the 1,300 Pebble Creek homeowners account for just 20 club memberships.

“The club cannot survive on this,” said Place.

There are other financial considerations, as well. The course, clubhouse and restaurant need $1.1 million worth of capital investments including a new irrigation system and clubhouse roof, he said. The planned environmental cleanup carries a $1 million price tag. The club hasn’t been profitable since 2018 and even a pandemic-induced spike in golf rounds didn’t make it worthwhile to remain open.

Fred Pearce, 70, is one of the 20 members residing in Pebble Creek and said he plays three rounds a week.

“I think it’s a death knell to the community — it was built around a golf course that’s been here for 50 years — so it’s a sad day for the community,” said Pearce.

Pearce said he anticipated neighbors’ vocal opposition to the brownfield application would be duplicated when Place applied to rezone the land for residential use.

In December, commissioners rejected Place’s brownfield application after numerous residents objected. They said labeling the land as environmentally damaged would stigmatize the neighborhood and hurt property values.

Place, however, said the remediation work would proceed under state jurisdiction, minus the hoped-for tax credits that would have accompanied the county’s brownfield designation. At the time, the plan called for building up to 300 homes on the property.

Place said then the club had just 73 members down from a high of 300 in the 1990s. It mirrors troubles at other community golf courses facing dwindling interest in the sport decades after developers used golf courses as the prime amenity to sell home lots in new neighborhoods.

Place told the Tampa Bay Times he has not finalized a contract with a home builder but expects to do so within a month. The rezoning process likely would start 90 days later, he said.
 

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So sorry, Foz - Plantation Palms is a good track but it’s very hard to leave “home” and all the memories that are buried there. 

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5 hours ago, revkev said:

So sorry, Foz - Plantation Palms is a good track but it’s very hard to leave “home” and all the memories that are buried there. 

Thanks Rev. I have over a dozen years running a Saturday game at Pebble Creek.  We are going to merge with the smaller Saturday game at Plantation Palms.  The course is getting better every day. I’ve been playing there once a week for the past year. 

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One week until the final round……

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So, some of the members have left and joined a weekday membership at Heritage Isles, about 4 miles west of Pebble Creek.  Some quit and are now playing at Lexington Oaks, about 8 miles north.  The res5 of us have taken the offer from Mr Place and transferred membership to Plantation Palms, about 10 miles northwest.  We get free cart plan ($160) for August and our monthly membership will remain the same as at Pebbl3 Creek for one year.  Currently, the membership at PP is about $30/month higher than PC.

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1 minute ago, fozcycle said:

So, some of the members have left and joined a weekday membership at Heritage Isles, about 4 miles west of Pebble Creek.  Some quit and are now playing at Lexington Oaks, about 8 miles north.  The res5 of us have taken the offer from Mr Place and transferred membership to Plantation Palms, about 10 miles northwest.  We get free cart plan ($160) for August and our monthly membership will remain the same as at Pebbl3 Creek for one year.  Currently, the membership at PP is about $30/month higher than PC.

Good luck @ Plantation.  One of the guys from here is moving somewhere near Sarasota, Lakeland I think is it’s name.  

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On 7/23/2021 at 5:14 PM, Rickp said:

Good luck @ Plantation.  One of the guys from here is moving somewhere near Sarasota, Lakeland I think is it’s name.  

Lakeland is east of Tampa, Sarasota is south of Tampa.

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Couple pics from today, the last Sunday at Pebble Creek.

 

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58 minutes ago, fozcycle said:

Lakeland is east of Tampa, Sarasota is south of Tampa.

Is Lakeland a decent community?  

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42 minutes ago, fozcycle said:

Couple pics from today, the last Sunday at Pebble Creek.

 

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Foz - So sorry to hear about this.  It's tough to see this happen.

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Sorry that you and your golfing buddies are having to make a drastic change. One good thing is all the memories you will have. I read the letter you received from the owner, it's just a shame that he cannot be honest. He must not be in tune with the golf industry if he thinks golf nationally is down,

"Nationally and locally, golf rounds have steadily declined over most of the last 10 years, as younger people turn to other sports, videos and electronics.  Fewer rounds, fewer members and increasing price competition have left less and less money to cover the high fixed costs of maintaining 120+ acres"

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2 hours ago, GaDawg said:

Fewer rounds, fewer members

I saw that phrase too, but the quoted part got me thinking. Perhaps rounds/membership were down at Pebble Creek. What was the staff trying to do to rectify it? Either they did nothing or their efforts were totally ineffective. Regardless, the loss of a course is never a good thing.

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17 hours ago, Rickp said:

Is Lakeland a decent community?  

Yes it is.....two of my Grandsons were police officers there for 6 years.....both have moved on to new careers.  Downtown Lakeland is very nice, terrific restaurants.

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4 hours ago, GaDawg said:

Sorry that you and your golfing buddies are having to make a drastic change. One good thing is all the memories you will have. I read the letter you received from the owner, it's just a shame that he cannot be honest. He must not be in tune with the golf industry if he thinks golf nationally is down,

"Nationally and locally, golf rounds have steadily declined over most of the last 10 years, as younger people turn to other sports, videos and electronics.  Fewer rounds, fewer members and increasing price competition have left less and less money to cover the high fixed costs of maintaining 120+ acres"

He actually owns several courses.  He had four for several years, sold one then closed one, now just two courses.  Membership gets you play at both.

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Bag: Vice cart bag(Black).  

Pushcart:  Caddytek 3.0 from Costco

Ball: Maxfli Tour CG & Titleist Pro V1x.

 

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