2021 Fantasy Golf

[STUDque]

Quick announcement. 
 

After speaking with the owners involved, we’ve decided to veto the trade between Revkev and 00sportsman. For their sake, I will not be providing any more details at this time. 

[ZJBogey2]

I DID IT! I made a trade! 

[xOldBenKenobiX]

7 minutes ago, ZJBogey2 said:

I DID IT! I made a trade! 

Do you want to make a second one today?

[xOldBenKenobiX]

I have a couple hours of meetings where I am presenting, I am not ignoring the ne trade offers, I just need some time to look at them and to respond, so keep them coming.

[fixyurdivot]

Seems to me that if JT, Reed, Xander, and Morikawa wins a gold, silver, or bronze medal, those of us who have them on our squad should get some "taking one for the greater good" points or FAAB... just sayin .

[GolfSpy_APH]

I honestly had no intention on making any real moves leading into the trade deadline, but one thing leads to another and all of the sudden I've trade half my roster! Hopefully it works out for playoffs and weeks to come, but if not was fun to make a dash at the 10th hour (tomorrow being the 11th) to hopefully set myself up for a repeat at the championship!

[GolfSpy_APH]

Okay @STUDque @Bucky CC@Berg Ryman@Undershooter if you guys can do the unnecessary job of keeping a eye on waivers and making sure what should be non droppable players aren't dropped I think the league would appreciate it. Noticed/PM was sent to me that Harman was dropped (? no idea why) along with several other players from a roster. 

As a side note now that we are on the last day of trades and so on please lets try and keep the league fun and competitive. Never fun when teams either give up or stop trying and then unbalance the league. Yes we have had a few MIA teams this year (usually those teams are noted and not invited back as a fyi), but in a league size of 64 it is kinda to be expected and that is what it is. However bad moves at this point in the season upset how many of us have been planning our season and managing our teams and this could be done without. 

 

[JonMUSC08]

I tried to make a few trades (i know, they werent exactly the greatest) but in the end, i kinda like my team. No BIG names but they have performed well. I have been able to sneak in there and get good finishes with them. As long as i can make the playoffs, i've got nearly everyone in the top 70!  ...i think

[revkev]

What determines a can’t cut player? 

[xOldBenKenobiX]

2 minutes ago, revkev said:

What determines a can’t cut player? 

Good question.

[GolfSpy_BNG]

1 minute ago, xOldBenKenobiX said:

Good question.

 

6 minutes ago, revkev said:

What determines a can’t cut player? 

I’m not sure on the definition of can’t cut exactly but dumping 3/4 of your team while not picking anybody makes it look really bad.  

[GolfSpy_APH]

8 minutes ago, revkev said:

What determines a can’t cut player? 

Good questions and here is how I see it.

In that specific case I think Harman was the only non cutable player. He is Fedex 34(?), OWGR 42 and expected to be playing in WGC, maybe Wyndham and at least 2 weeks of playoffs. As well is owned by basically everyone. 

The rest I could have seen being cut, what made it more egregious was nobody was picked up at all to replace them. 

Players who regularly play + good fedex standing + solid OWGR (meaning they get exceptions into events) should not just be dropped, especially when teams would be more then willing to trade fair value for them this close to the deadline.

I mean considering guys are still holding onto Zalatoris and he only has 1 or 2 weeks left then is done should say something about it as well.  

[jddaigneault]

So we have can’t cut guys, but ridiculous trades can go through? Ok…

[jddaigneault]

Leishman was just on waivers and is above Harman in fedex. Fitzpatrick is top 20 in OWGR and was just on waivers. 

[GolfSpy_APH]

1 minute ago, jddaigneault said:

So we have can’t cut guys, but ridiculous trades can go through? Ok…

Without getting too much into this I would have thought most of us would have realized that Harman getting released would have been reversed. It is the whole reason I did not put a bid in on it (for reference if I did think it was real I would have dumped all 38 of mine on it). As I stated above I think the other guys were fair game...

Maybe if it had happened in a way that wasn't so obvious of giving up and just not going to field a roster for the rest of the season then yeah sure or even replace a single one of the dropped guys then fair game, but how this happened at least in my view was not in a proper manner and made it a easy decision for the commissioners to reverse and potentially lock his roster for the season.

[jddaigneault]

If a transaction is going to be undone than every transaction needs to be reset so people can put bids in on other players. And rules need to be established ahead of time. 

[GolfSpy_APH]

4 minutes ago, jddaigneault said:

Leishman was just on waivers and is above Harman in fedex. Fitzpatrick is top 20 in OWGR and was just on waivers. 

Leishman was picked up June 1st nearly two months ago (by me) when he was mid 40's in fedex... Fitzpatrick hasn't played a ton and was dropped for someone to field a full roster. However I do get your point... I still stand by that Harman shouldn't have been dropped, but again had he been replaced by another player then there would have been someway to actually justify the move. Dropped 3/4 of a team then not adding anyone is making it pretty blatant unless there were other players who were dropped and waiting on waivers? I'll leave that as a very slight possibility but severely unlikely since Harman would be one of the only players dropped to being potentially playing in WGC

Just now, jddaigneault said:

If a transaction is going to be undone than every transaction needs to be reset so people can put bids in on other players. And rules need to be established ahead of time. 

Thats certainly fair. I don't disagree with that at all. This hopefully won't happen again and sucks that it did happen in the first place. Message a Commish and I'm sure they can likely look at a fix to help or understand the situation. 

Again I hope we don't see any more dropped teams and therefore no more of these unfortunate situations. 

[STUDque]

I’m honestly shocked that this is even an issue. I have 2 quick points to make on this:

1) It’s fantasy 101 that you don’t drop your team right before playoffs. You just don’t do it and it’s a Bush League move. Any commissioner awake at the wheel would automatically undo any such moves.

2) For this, and literally every other waiver claim all season, you’ve gotta have a backup plan in place. It’s wild to think we should have a do over because an obvious BS move was reversed. What if someone else bid higher anyway?

 

Come on guys, let’s use some common sense.

 

[GolfSpy_BNG]

55 minutes ago, jddaigneault said:

If a transaction is going to be undone than every transaction needs to be reset so people can put bids in on other players. And rules need to be established ahead of time. 

If you put in backup waiver claims for another golfer and that claim was higher than what the person who got said golfer then yes you are correct. If you didn’t put in the backup claim then you don’t have any reason to want the other claims reversed other than being upset you didn’t get Harman

[GolfSpy_SHARK]

Jones and Harman as soon as they were dropped were instantly adds for me....Thats a non cut player....Pretty easy I think.

[GolfSpy_APH]

4 minutes ago, Lacassem said:

Jones and Harman as soon as they were dropped were instantly adds for me....Thats a non cut player....Pretty easy I think.

Jones again was a little different of a drop because he was to fill out a spot for last week. Solid player and good pickup for sure though!

Who is going to make a final trade with the clock ticking and only hours left?

[jddaigneault]

17 minutes ago, blackngold_blood said:

If you put in backup waiver claims for another golfer and that claim was higher than what the person who got said golfer then yes you are correct. If you didn’t put in the backup claim then you don’t have any reason to want the other claims reversed other than being upset you didn’t get Harman

I did. For someone who got snagged elsewhere. 

[GolfSpy_SHARK]

10 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Jones again was a little different of a drop because he was to fill out a spot for last week. Solid player and good pickup for sure though!

Who is going to make a final trade with the clock ticking and only hours left?

Hes just one of those consistent guys week to week, you know hes gonna play and make the cut. A 6th man if you will, and guess what? When DJ doesnt make the cut, Jones is there for you!

So....Whos ready to trade DJ

[GolfSpy_APH]

11 minutes ago, Lacassem said:

Hes just one of those consistent guys week to week, you know hes gonna play and make the cut. A 6th man if you will, and guess what? When DJ doesnt make the cut, Jones is there for you!

So....Whos ready to trade DJ

I just did the other day! Haven't even looked at making any offers... still having to get use to who is on my team and who to cheer for!

For those wondering about the field this upcoming event a little ahead of time: https://www.pgatour.com/fantasy/major-qualifiers.html

[GolfSpy_BNG]

16 minutes ago, jddaigneault said:

I did. For someone who got snagged elsewhere. 

Then I believe you have a legit complaint. In my opinion you should show a commissioner and they can do what they deem right.  Do you have a screenshot of the claim cuz without it nothing can be done. 

[jddaigneault]

4 minutes ago, blackngold_blood said:

Then I believe you have a legit complaint. In my opinion you should show a commissioner and they can do what they deem right.  Do you have a screenshot of the claim cuz without it nothing can be done. 

No, because the claim processed for Harman.  I don’t screenshot all my claims. It is what it is. Moving on. 

[GolfSpy_BNG]

16 minutes ago, jddaigneault said:

No, because the claim processed for Harman.  I don’t screenshot all my claims. It is what it is. Moving on. 

You can go back into transactions and look at any that were completed or even the ones that weren’t for you. 

[GolfSpy_SHARK]

28 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

I just did the other day! Haven't even looked at making any offers... still having to get use to who is on my team and who to cheer for!

For those wondering about the field this upcoming event a little ahead of time: https://www.pgatour.com/fantasy/major-qualifiers.html

Coincidence they are listed next to each other?! I think not

[JonMUSC08]

Wait so the Brian Harman drop is getting approved??  I've had some serious trade offers for him but didnt do them bc hes THAT good. Hasn't won but has 2 top1's since May 27. A few top 25's too. Nearly 1000 FedEx pts. 

[GolfSpy_BNG]

3 minutes ago, JonMUSC08 said:

Wait so the Brian Harman drop is getting approved??  I've had some serious trade offers for him but didnt do them bc hes THAT good. Hasn't won but has 2 top1's since May 27. A few top 25's too. Nearly 1000 FedEx pts. 

No that has been reversed already