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Congrats to @blackngold_blood on being the 2021 MGS Fantasy Golf Champion. It was a honour to play this season and just a lot of fun as well! Thank you to all who participated and looking forward to next season as we all try to pull the golden ticket and title away from BNG. 
 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, tchat07 said:

Thought I had a shot at a sneaky late push with Adam Scott almost winning. Loved being able to see the final putt by Kisner since they were showing the early morning on the golf channel. Would have been nice to see the playoff.

When I saw that there was a playoff and 3 of my players were involved I knew I would be getting lots of points 🙂

 

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Out of curiosity I ran an quick check on the remaining funds for each playoff team.

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21 minutes ago, xOldBenKenobiX said:

Out of curiosity I ran an quick check on the remaining funds for each playoff team.

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Of course I would love to have been able to save some more FAAB, but given my roster construction if a wavier pickup this late makes me loose the title I would honestly be a bit sad.... or well disappointed. Given the guys I have there isn't anyone on waivers that SHOULD make that much of a difference to beat out my top 6/7 and I'm happy to stick with Power to see if he can grab a top 70 spot and maybe make it to round 2 of playoffs. In any case I won't be making any moves unless there are some bigger drops come tomorrow morning, which I think is fairly unlikely. 

Big question I think is how big of a injury is Oost's neck injury and is it possible he may be done for the season? It could dramatically change how the playoffs shape up. 

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Also for what is worth, I have updated the add/drop sheet, I will probably check again tomorrow for any last minute changes on the FedEx rankings, and fingers crossed a Zalatoris exception.

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2 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Of course I would love to have been able to save some more FAAB, but given my roster construction if a wavier pickup this late makes me loose the title I would honestly be a bit sad.... or well disappointed. Given the guys I have there isn't anyone on waivers that SHOULD make that much of a difference to beat out my top 6/7 and I'm happy to stick with Power to see if he can grab a top 70 spot and maybe make it to round 2 of playoffs. In any case I won't be making any moves unless there are some bigger drops come tomorrow morning, which I think is fairly unlikely. 

Big question I think is how big of a injury is Oost's neck injury and is it possible he may be done for the season? It could dramatically change how the playoffs shape up. 

I do not know how his injury recovery, as a fan I am hoping that he recovers well and plays during the playoffs.

He still pretty well ranked on the FedEx and maybe get a little extra time to recover.

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Is it me or does anyone else think, that if Zalatoris is allowed an exception, that completely changes these playoffs? And for anyone that turned down those trades, just got screwed

Are we saying that if he's in, he's in (based on the PGA). Or we (MGS Fantasy) at all discussing leaving him out since it wasn't by the FedEx rules how we played within our league? 

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5 minutes ago, JonMUSC08 said:

Is it me or does anyone else think, that if Zalatoris is allowed an exception, that completely changes these playoffs? And for anyone that turned down those trades, just got screwed

Are we saying that if he's in, he's in (based on the PGA). Or we (MGS Fantasy) at all discussing leaving him out since it wasn't by the FedEx rules how we played within our league? 

I think for fantasy it’d be complete BS if he gets in. I think purely for golf, it’d be a good thing. 

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5 minutes ago, JonMUSC08 said:

Is it me or does anyone else think, that if Zalatoris is allowed an exception, that completely changes these playoffs? And for anyone that turned down those trades, just got screwed

Are we saying that if he's in, he's in (based on the PGA). Or we (MGS Fantasy) at all discussing leaving him out since it wasn't by the FedEx rules how we played within our league? 

In the end if PGA lets him into playoffs he is in. His points will count just like anyone else's. We always knew he was a wildcard, just didn't know it would come down to the wire like this. 

I do agree it makes a huge twist, but same would have been had he won last week or any of the other weeks leading up to it. I would still be surprised if he was because it may not just change this week, but rounds 2 and 3 of playoffs. 

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6 minutes ago, JonMUSC08 said:

Is it me or does anyone else think, that if Zalatoris is allowed an exception, that completely changes these playoffs? And for anyone that turned down those trades, just got screwed

Are we saying that if he's in, he's in (based on the PGA). Or we (MGS Fantasy) at all discussing leaving him out since it wasn't by the FedEx rules how we played within our league? 

It would definitely change the landscape for the playoffs, the main question I have is does him getting a playoff exception means that he is ranked with his points for the year and everyone behind him moves down?

And what happens to 125, Hadley, he fought hard to get to that spot, does that kick him out?

Or is Z added as 125 + 1 tied for last on the playoff standings and have to fight really hard to move up?

1 minute ago, jddaigneault said:

I think for fantasy it’d be complete BS if he gets in. I think purely for golf, it’d be a good thing. 

Agreed

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2 minutes ago, xOldBenKenobiX said:

It would definitely change the landscape for the playoffs, the main question I have is does him getting a playoff exception means that he is ranked with his points for the year and everyone behind him moves down?

And what happens to 125, Hadley, he fought hard to get to that spot, does that kick him out?

Or is Z added as 125 + 1 tied for last on the playoff standings and have to fight really hard to move up?

Agreed

I sit a bit on the other side. If he gets in I don't really care. Good for him and don't have issue with his scores counting towards playoffs. It wasn't as though he was dropped and picked up for nothing. That would have changed my opinion somewhat. HOWEVER!! unless I am missing something other then a few players saying it sucks and he should be in I have yet to see anything from the PGA tour saying they are considering putting him in or modifying the playoffs to allow him to play. He has even said (Zalatoris) that it was win or go home and it was the way the rules are. He said had he not won he would go over to europe and play while the playoffs are taking place. 

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Agreed. And don't take this as me complaining but just looking into what these possibilities may do to our league. 

I think he's a great player (Zalatoris) but it would be like letting in an extra guy into our playoff competition (Fantasy) based on an opinion of our commissioners that someone had a great year.

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39 minutes ago, jddaigneault said:

I think for fantasy it’d be complete BS if he gets in. I think purely for golf, it’d be a good thing. 

If he gets in for any reason/basis other than the same exact criteria the rest of the field is decided, then it's a sham.  

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31 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

He said had he not won he would go over to europe and play while the playoffs are taking place. 

I’m surprised he isn’t playing in the PGA/KF crossover series to try and get his card. 75 pga players that are gonna loose their card for not being in top 125 of fedex cup, top 75 KFs, top 25 from series get their card. Sound like a much better bet for him

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from a fantasy perspective it all is about what the tour does.  If they decide to let him in, then he is an option for the playoffs.  The only question for fantasy is that my assumption is that most teams will drop him to pick up someone playing to have an 8 man roster.  What will the commissioners do if they make the announcement after tonight’s waivers?   Is he a free agent or do the teams dropping him get him back for free?   In my opinion if he is dropped he is available for any team or pickup and he doesn’t go back to the teams that dropped him.    I’d at least like to see the commissioners make a ruling in advance on this possibility.  

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4 minutes ago, rbsiedsc said:

I’m surprised he isn’t playing in the PGA/KF crossover series to try and get his card. 75 pga players that are gonna loose their card for not being in top 125 of fedex cup, top 75 KFs, top 25 from series get their card. Sound like a much better bet for him

There are multiple ways to get your card,  haven’t read if he has his tour card based on money earned from sponsors exemptions and tournaments played.  Usually if you earn a certain amount of money in your events you get your card.  

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9 minutes ago, rbsiedsc said:

I’m surprised he isn’t playing in the PGA/KF crossover series to try and get his card. 75 pga players that are gonna loose their card for not being in top 125 of fedex cup, top 75 KFs, top 25 from series get their card. Sound like a much better bet for him

Zally already locked up his card for next year. He locked it up early on in the KFT regular season. Finishes like a 1st place, T2, T3, 4, T4, T5, 6, and T6 helps. Here is the first 25 that have locked up their cards from the KFT regular season. There are 25 more spots up for grabs at the KFT finals. The other screenshot below explains that.

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3 minutes ago, cnosil said:

from a fantasy perspective it all is about what the tour does.  If they decide to let him in, then he is an option for the playoffs.  The only question for fantasy is that my assumption is that most teams will drop him to pick up someone playing to have an 8 man roster.  What will the commissioners do if they make the announcement after tonight’s waivers?   Is he a free agent or do the teams dropping him get him back for free?   In my opinion if he is dropped he is available for any team or pickup and he doesn’t go back to the teams that dropped him.    I’d at least like to see the commissioners make a ruling in advance on this possibility.  

Agree 100% if he is dropped he is dropped. There is no "but I wouldn't have dropped him had I known". It is the risk any of the managers know about owning him and the risk they have taken all season with him. 

Again I would still be surprised if he is allowed or given a exception, but anyone who does go ahead and drop him should be prepared to loose him if he does get that call to play. 

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11 minutes ago, rbsiedsc said:

I’m surprised he isn’t playing in the PGA/KF crossover series to try and get his card. 75 pga players that are gonna loose their card for not being in top 125 of fedex cup, top 75 KFs, top 25 from series get their card. Sound like a much better bet for him

He has his card for next year. 

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9 minutes ago, Mtbryant01 said:

Zally already locked up his card for next year. He locked it up early on in the KFT regular season. Finishes like a 1st place, T2, T3, 4, T4, T5, 6, and T6 helps. Here is the first 25 that have locked up their cards from the KFT regular season. There are 25 more spots up for grabs at the KFT finals. The other screenshot below explains that.

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the only question is what status does he have on tour,   Just having a card doesn’t necessarily get you into all events.   I would think his PGA results would get him a better status that the KFT results.  

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23 minutes ago, cnosil said:

The only question for fantasy is that my assumption is that most teams will drop him to pick up someone playing to have an 8 man roster.  What will the commissioners do if they make the announcement after tonight’s waivers?

Yeah this one is pretty simple. If you drop him, don’t expect to get him back if the tour grants an exemption. I say this even being a Z owner myself. He’s been a wild card all year and continues to be all the way until the final hour.

 

 That said, gotta imagine that if the tour is going to grant it, they do it today. Would be a tough scene to tell him on Tuesday to show up on Thursday. Gonna be watching golf news closely for sure. 

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7 minutes ago, cnosil said:


the only question is what status does he have on tour,   Just having a card doesn’t necessarily get you into all events.   I would think his PGA results would get him a better status that the KFT results.  

Good question. I’ve read the leader with the most points at the end of the KFT finals that includes the regular season gets fully exempt and a spot in the Players. The golfer who gathers up the most points throughout the 3 event playoffs also gets fully exempt and into the Players. After that, the top 50 that get their cards will fall into the PGA tour priority rankings on how many events they get to attend. Will follow up after the 3 playoff events and see how the priority rankings fall.

In regards to Zally finishing 9th in the regular season points list, I guess he won’t be fully exempt, but like you said, the finishes he had on the PGA tour this season have to account for something. I’d imagine he’d be close to fully exempt as anyone.

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2 minutes ago, STUDque said:

Yeah this one is pretty simple. If you drop him, don’t expect to get him back if the tour grants an exemption. I say this even being a Z owner myself. He’s been a wild card all year and continues to be all the way until the final hour.

 

 That said, gotta imagine that if the tour is going to grant it, they do it today. Would be a tough scene to tell him on Tuesday to show up on Thursday. Gonna be watching golf news closely for sure. 

Anyone know if there is precedence for such a decision?  Last I heard, he had to win the Wyndham to make the FedEx Cup playoffs... what changed and why the special consideration/status?

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3 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

Anyone know if there is precedence for such a decision?  Last I heard, he had to win the Wyndham to make the FedEx Cup playoffs... what changed and why the special consideration/status?

There isn’t precedence…which is why it’s unlikely. But every special rule has a unique circumstance that spawned it so that’s why there’s a pretty public out cry to get him into the playoffs. Even Webb Simpson said he wanted to do a player vote to get him in. 

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1 minute ago, STUDque said:

There isn’t precedence…which is why it’s unlikely. But every special rule has a unique circumstance that spawned it so that’s why there’s a pretty public out cry to get him into the playoffs. Even Webb Simpson said he wanted to do a player vote to get him in. 

Yeah, Enrique and I have been a little back and forth on this in between setting up Football and preparing for these playoffs. Personally, I think this is going to be a complete nothing despite the support and just an instance where the content creators of the golf social sphere can take up arms against how old and outdated the tour is for their own clicks and clout. If something does happen, I guess it would be fair, kinda? I don't really have an opinion one way or the other to be honest.

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31 minutes ago, STUDque said:

Yeah this one is pretty simple. If you drop him, don’t expect to get him back if the tour grants an exemption. I say this even being a Z owner myself. He’s been a wild card all year and continues to be all the way until the final hour.

 

 That said, gotta imagine that if the tour is going to grant it, they do it today. Would be a tough scene to tell him on Tuesday to show up on Thursday. Gonna be watching golf news closely for sure. 

I am also keeping an eye on the golf channel for any breaking news, just in case, otherwise I need to place a waiver my self, there are currently 53 available players from the top 125 so plenty to get in and gather a few points from.

Enrique, are we still counting the top 4 point earners on our teams for the playoffs, like we did during the regular season,  or of the points scored count for the playoffs?

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Maybe I can shed some light on this as I have been looking into it since Webb made his comments. The reason for the uproar to let him play is 2 fold. 
 

#1 He has played well enough to be ranked inside the top 30 should his points have counted. 
 

#2. From everything I have found this is the big one. Due to the pandemic last year, the tour froze all players spots. They felt with the pandemic and shortened season that nobody should lose their pga card. With that means no golfer would be promoted either. Had they not froze the status of players Z would have already had his card to start this season and this wouldn’t be an issue. 
 

This will be an interesting next 24hrs as there is no precedent for this with a pandemic shorten season.   I have him and will likely sit on him until Wednesday night or an official ruling is offered. Obviously if he is in they would have to do 126, 71, 31 so the other guys aren’t screwed either. That said I think if he is in, then his points should count. 

 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Berg Ryman said:

Yeah, Enrique and I have been a little back and forth on this in between setting up Football and preparing for these playoffs. Personally, I think this is going to be a complete nothing despite the support and just an instance where the content creators of the golf social sphere can take up arms against how old and outdated the tour is for their own clicks and clout. If something does happen, I guess it would be fair, kinda? I don't really have an opinion one way or the other to be honest.

I'm not sure how it would be considered kind of fair.  He received a special tour exemption to play the season - that in itself no doubt raises a few eyebrows amongst the field and tour fans.   Now he would receive another special exemption to play in the playoffs even though he did not earn a spot? 

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25 minutes ago, xOldBenKenobiX said:

I am also keeping an eye on the golf channel for any breaking news, just in case, otherwise I need to place a waiver my self, there are currently 53 available players from the top 125 so plenty to get in and gather a few points from.

Enrique, are we still counting the top 4 point earners on our teams for the playoffs, like we did during the regular season,  or of the points scored count for the playoffs?

Same as it was all season, top 4 count.

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