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Congrats to @blackngold_blood on being the 2021 MGS Fantasy Golf Champion. It was a honour to play this season and just a lot of fun as well! Thank you to all who participated and looking forward to next season as we all try to pull the golden ticket and title away from BNG. 
 

 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Berg Ryman said:

Same as it was all season, top 4 count.

Thank you Berg, to me then it means that since Z is the only one from my team that is out from the Northern trust, I can sit on him for a couple more of days and give the tour some time to make up their mind.

34 minutes ago, blackngold_blood said:

#2. From everything I have found this is the big one. Due to the pandemic last year, the tour froze all players spots. They felt with the pandemic and shortened season that nobody should lose their pga card. With that means no golfer would be promoted either. Had they not froze the status of players Z would have already had his card to start this season and this wouldn’t be an issue. 

This is a great point, he would have been a PGA card holder, if it was not the shorten season last year, but could, should, would, it is not the same as right now.

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scoring is whack in this league.

I had the winner and 2nd place finisher and still lost some matchups. 

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2 minutes ago, xOldBenKenobiX said:

This is a great point, he would have been a PGA card holder, if it was not the shorten season last year, but could, should, would, it is not the same as right now.

Exactly.  Justin Rose is a great guy and is this seasons Payne Stewart recipient... #126 is really close, let him play. The PGA is about to open Pandora's Box. 🤔

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15 minutes ago, StrokerAce said:

scoring is whack in this league.

I had the winner and 2nd place finisher and still lost some matchups. 

Let's be fair for a minute here. You only had 3 guys make the weekend and the two teams you lost to were the highest scorer of the week in Cnosil, who had the winner and two guys in the playoff, and the fifth highest in Jahran, who had three guys in the top 10. Blame it on schedule luck maybe, but not scoring.

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6 minutes ago, StrokerAce said:

scoring is whack in this league.

I had the winner and 2nd place finisher and still lost some matchups. 

Well, you lost to me and one other team   I had the winner, 2 second place finishers plus a fourth player that didn’t do too badly.  the other team you lost to had 3 top 10 players and a fourth that made the cut.  You only had 3 players make the cut. 
 

 

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4 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Well, you lost to me and one other team   I had the winner, 2 second place finishers plus a fourth player that didn’t do too badly.  the other team you lost to had 3 top 10 players and a fourth that made the cut.  You only had 3 players make the cut. 
 

 

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all I'm saying is there should be a much larger reward for having the winner than having guys in the top ten.

but - whatever - the scoring has been whack all season long.

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13 minutes ago, StrokerAce said:

all I'm saying is there should be a much larger reward for having the winner than having guys in the top ten.

but - whatever - the scoring has been whack all season long.

I’d say 20 additional points for a win vs 2nd place is fairly substantial.  Sorry you don’t enjoy the league. 

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14 minutes ago, StrokerAce said:

all I'm saying is there should be a much larger reward for having the winner than having guys in the top ten.

but - whatever - the scoring has been whack all season long.

Basically we can chalk it up to the schedule. We have some weeks that are harder then others. Hoping next year we keep it at 60 or whatever the highest number is that we can play all the teams like last season. Then instead of having some schedule luck and loosing two matches you may still loose 2 or 3 but you'll also beat 57 or so!

In the end I had the highest scoring team by well over 130 points so a weeks worth of play, yet I still was 10 games down, but that is just the rub of the green! 

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18 minutes ago, cnosil said:

I’d say 20 additional points for a win vs 2nd place is fairly substantial.  Sorry you don’t enjoy the league. 

"fairly substantial" 

let's take a look at the difference between first and 2nd in the Wyndham ...

Full prize money breakdown for the 2021 Wyndham Championship

1: $1,152,000

2: $697,600

that's a 60% difference between winning and second place.

I'd consider that "fairly substantial" .... 20 additional points is a joke

 

18 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Basically we can chalk it up to the schedule. We have some weeks that are harder then others. Hoping next year we keep it at 60 or whatever the highest number is that we can play all the teams like last season. Then instead of having some schedule luck and loosing two matches you may still loose 2 or 3 but you'll also beat 57 or so!

In the end I had the highest scoring team by well over 130 points so a weeks worth of play, yet I still was 10 games down, but that is just the rub of the green! 

...and I scored over 4000 points but am still in 15th place.

something wrong here.... something really really wrong here.

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3 minutes ago, StrokerAce said:

"fairly substantial" 

let's take a look at the difference between first and 2nd in the Wyndham ...

Full prize money breakdown for the 2021 Wyndham Championship

1: $1,152,000

2: $697,600

that's a 60% difference between winning and second place.

I'd consider that "fairly substantial" .... 20 additional points is a joke

 

...and I scored over 4000 points but am still in 15th place.

something wrong here.... something really really wrong here.

Again the schedule the way it was this year lead to some tough weeks. We both had high scoring teams (rev too), but had a lot of points scored against us. Again rub of the green... thankfully it was auto populated schedule that was set when the season started so there was just some luck after that.
Obviously sucks when we have some teams mail it in or no partake in any manner at all which then led us to have to this format. With all that though anything can happen in the playoffs and pretty sure last year the guy in 20th nearly came to win the whole thing so in terms of how it will all play out its still up in the air and anything can happen. 
Sorry you feel like you got wronged, but your not the only one who had a tough schedule or some bad breaks along the way this season (Rahm, Hideki and now Oost owners).

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8 minutes ago, StrokerAce said:

"fairly substantial" 

let's take a look at the difference between first and 2nd in the Wyndham ...

Full prize money breakdown for the 2021 Wyndham Championship

1: $1,152,000

2: $697,600

that's a 60% difference between winning and second place.

I'd consider that "fairly substantial" .... 20 additional points is a joke

 

...and I scored over 4000 points but am still in 15th place.

something wrong here.... something really really wrong here.


Simply because you have the winner on your team does not mean you should be guaranteed a win plus The scoring has been this way all year (which you have complained about multiple times). My suggestion is that since the scoring bothers you so much you don’t participate in fantasy sports on MGS.  

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16 minutes ago, StrokerAce said:

"fairly substantial" 

let's take a look at the difference between first and 2nd in the Wyndham ...

Full prize money breakdown for the 2021 Wyndham Championship

1: $1,152,000

2: $697,600

that's a 60% difference between winning and second place.

I'd consider that "fairly substantial" .... 20 additional points is a joke

 

...and I scored over 4000 points but am still in 15th place.

something wrong here.... something really really wrong here.

This is the last I'm going to comment on this today because we're working pretty hard behind the scenes on Football today, but here's the reality of the situation.

You were the 5th highest scoring team of the season Stroker, that much is true. You were also 11th in points against. What you're complaining about amounts to 10 total bonus points for the playoff in the scheme of things... TEN POINTS. Now you are just playing against the field if your team is as good as it has proven to be you should be able to make up that difference if the teams in front of you stumble. You're in with a shout and a good one at that... let's leave it be.

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55 minutes ago, StrokerAce said:

all I'm saying is there should be a much larger reward for having the winner than having guys in the top ten.

but - whatever - the scoring has been whack all season long.

Your complaining has been whack all season long...

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..this place is becoming more and more like WRX each and every day.  why do I even bother.

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1 hour ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

but that is just the rub of the green!

I like that saying. 

I look at it this way. As long as the scoring and match-up system is uniformly consistent or consistently inconsistent, it's the same for everyone.  I made the playoffs which was my seasons goal... now onto the "stretch goal". 🙏

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So to add my two cents:

The scoring will always be a point of contention for different teams, we have had the entire year with it, and I too have had weeks where I was left scratching my head with how did a result turn the way it was.

However I do believe that the Mods did a great job to set up the scoring and how it would work, well before the season started, specially because fantasy golf is a very long commitment.

With that being said, the overall outcome of the year has been positive for me, and yes I wished we had played 1 vs all, and done away with the league average, but the platform does not allow for so many teams as we had to go against each other.

To me being the first year playing the golf league, I am happy and excited to come back next season, but I am a forever optimist and dont have much that will discourage me from playing future MGS fantasy leagues.

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2 hours ago, cnosil said:


Simply because you have the winner on your team does not mean you should be guaranteed a win plus The scoring has been this way all year (which you have complained about multiple times). My suggestion is that since the scoring bothers you so much you don’t participate in fantasy sports on MGS.  

thanks for the suggestion... you're always there for advice. always. good or bad.

 

Just to put this in context I finished 2nd in 2019; I'm not coming out of left field here.

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@StrokerAcewould you be willing to concede the Golden Ticket if you happen to win it all? 

Do you have a suggestion as to how the point system needs to be changed? And is this suggestion in your favor and how could we show that you might actually be in a worse position based on that suggestion? 

We all know the point system going into the season; you need to know how to work your team and "strategy" around the 'rules'. Seems you are in a top 10 position so you've been doing something better than most of us.... 

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21 minutes ago, JonMUSC08 said:

@StrokerAcewould you be willing to concede the Golden Ticket if you happen to win it all? 

Do you have a suggestion as to how the point system needs to be changed? And is this suggestion in your favor and how could we show that you might actually be in a worse position based on that suggestion? 

We all know the point system going into the season; you need to know how to work your team and "strategy" around the 'rules'. Seems you are in a top 10 position so you've been doing something better than most of us.... 

LET IT GO...

I simply was stating an opinion. That's it man. That's all it was. That used to be okay, but now you get shouted down and in some cases personally attacked for having an opinion on this forum - especially when it comes to certain topics and if it involves certain people.

Can a person not rant a bit any longer? Are we becoming a mini-golfwrx? (If you don't know what I mean go to golfwrx dot com and start a thread asking if a mid or high handicap should play blades)

 

just for fun I'm going to look at this from the outside in...

Stroker: this scoring is whack in this league.... blah, blah, blah

another member: yeah, I've caught a couple bad breaks this season too. the scoring was set from the outset and it is what is. hopefully this is the only bad break you catch but happens to everyone eventually


Stroker: thanks man - just sucks sometimes.

(SILENCE) that's it, that's the end. no need to justify why the scoring is what it is, why you lost to who and by how much, why this, why that, what would you do about it. that's it. a player is frustrated; concede the point and move along.

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22 hours ago, StrokerAce said:

scoring is whack in this league.

I had the winner and 2nd place finisher and still lost some matchups. 

 

21 hours ago, StrokerAce said:

all I'm saying is there should be a much larger reward for having the winner than having guys in the top ten.

but - whatever - the scoring has been whack all season long.

 

21 hours ago, StrokerAce said:

"fairly substantial" 

let's take a look at the difference between first and 2nd in the Wyndham ...

Full prize money breakdown for the 2021 Wyndham Championship

1: $1,152,000

2: $697,600

that's a 60% difference between winning and second place.

I'd consider that "fairly substantial" .... 20 additional points is a joke

 

...and I scored over 4000 points but am still in 15th place.

something wrong here.... something really really wrong here.

 

20 hours ago, StrokerAce said:

..this place is becoming more and more like WRX each and every day.  why do I even bother.

My Bad bud, but you're not doing yourself any favors when you write 4 posts complaining on ONE page alone. Maybe preface your posts that you want to rant or vent that you got unlucky. 

Im with ya; got a bunch of very unlucky breaks. I had one week where all the teams i played were inside the top 20 and i had my best week and went like 1-9. 

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Looking at the add drop list from this week it is a little sad to see guys like Fleetwood, Rose and Fowler dropped because their season for us is done. Those are guys I liked going into the season and had high hopes for, but just couldn't put together seasons. Rickie had his moments and had it not been for a bogey at the PGA it could have been a whole new season for him. 

Now it will be interesting to see if any of the guys between 71-125 can have a stellar tournament and crack top 70 to buy themselves another week. I'm riding high on Power and someone else who I hope gets dropped, but I won't say who here. Also noticed Sneds got dropped by a few players. Makes sense since him missed 2 cuts in a row, but he has been a decent player this year and a great waiver replacement add. 

Finally Mr. Higgo who went for a pretty penny after his win is now unowned I believe... oh how the tides shift and change. 

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This argument that @StrokerAce can complain that our scoring system is whack without providing any justification behind that statement or suggestion for improvement is a weird hill to die on.
 

We’re very open to change and go through a period every pre season where suggestions can be taken and voted upon. Either speak up when you have the chance or shut your trap. Respectfully. 

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Hey @StrokerAce ...

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45 minutes ago, JonMUSC08 said:

 

 

 

My Bad bud, but you're not doing yourself any favors when you write 4 posts complaining on ONE page alone. Maybe preface your posts that you want to rant or vent that you got unlucky. 

Im with ya; got a bunch of very unlucky breaks. I had one week where all the teams i played were inside the top 20 and i had my best week and went like 1-9. 

Likewise, but I've actually come to like the scoring system... it's like Christmas morning and actually having no idea what's in the wrapped package. 🙂

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40 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Finally Mr. Higgo who went for a pretty penny after his win is now unowned I believe...

And believe you me that I took notes on all of you who offered him in trade 🤣.

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1 hour ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Finally Mr. Higgo who went for a pretty penny after his win is now unowned I believe... oh how the tides shift and change. 

I think I included him in my long list of hopeful add/drops, thinking I could at least get him if all the others fell through. Picked up Hadwin instead. He slumped a bit after the win, but I have an odd feeling that he's going to bust out again this week and people will be throwing FAAB at him again next week. 

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1 hour ago, ChiefMikeOfficer said:

I think I included him in my long list of hopeful add/drops, thinking I could at least get him if all the others fell through. Picked up Hadwin instead. He slumped a bit after the win, but I have an odd feeling that he's going to bust out again this week and people will be throwing FAAB at him again next week. 

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I dont like the scoring either. Made due with what it is though. 

I'm in the camp that we should choose our 4 golfers for the week, if a golfer is cut and you have someone on the bench you can replace them in the lineup for those weekend points (not points they scored while on your bench). Similar to how the PGA Fantasy App/Game works. This way it takes strategy on who to play while also factoring in a deeper bench. 

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