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Congrats to @blackngold_blood on being the 2021 MGS Fantasy Golf Champion. It was a honour to play this season and just a lot of fun as well! Thank you to all who participated and looking forward to next season as we all try to pull the golden ticket and title away from BNG. 
 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Bucky CC said:

"I thought nothing of it when it was offered but it's outrageous now that a much more even trade was vetoed and we all know his trade would have been executed."

I strongly disagree with your comment alleging collusion amount the commissioners.  If for some reason you would have accepted Zalatoris for Louie we would have vetoed the offer.  We had a lot of discussion over your trade and ultimately decided it was unfair due to the fact that Morikawa won the Open and is at the top of the FedEx Cup with only 3 tournaments left.

If you'd like to discuss further please feel free to reach out to one of us directly via PM or on Slack.  Continuing to argue on the forum only damages the league.

I apologize, I didn't mean it as collusion at all. I just assumed the person that offered it would be able to execute it. Either way, I didn't mind the offer at all. It was just interesting that something that lopsided was offered the same day my trade was cancelled. I wish no damage on the league, I enjoy it far too much. 

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1 minute ago, Josh Ross said:

I apologize, I didn't mean it as collusion at all. I just assumed the person that offered it would be able to execute it. Either way, I didn't mind the offer at all. It was just interesting that something that lopsided was offered the same day my trade was cancelled. I wish no damage on the league, I enjoy it far too much. 

We don't give anyone the authority to push through their own trades. We have to ask one of the others to do it for us. 

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Just now, Undershooter said:

We don't give anyone the authority to push through their own trades. We have to ask one of the others to do it for us. 

That makes sense. And re-reading my statement it looks like I'm attacking the commish that offered the trade but I'm really not. I have nothing but respect for everyone here and we all offer trades that are crazy sometimes. I guess I just assumed he wouldn't offer something he knew his fellow commissioners would veto. Thanks for responding to all my messages earlier.

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I know basically all has been said, but wanted to just say I can see both sides however been involved in the previous Morikawa for Berger trade when it was said here that this trade was happening again I was curious to see what "extra" was going to go along with Berger. I insisted on FABB being added as it will become more valuable now that the trade deadline is approaching and our only way of adding talent will be waivers. This is also the time of year where some bigger names can get dropped for players that are playing. Again adding value to FABB and 18% of our total budget isn't a small amount. Finally I'll add in the week I traded for Berger + FABB for Morikawa, Berger was a favorite going into the weekend and playing while Morikawa was not and that adds value as well.

Example being this week I was trying to get Finau, because I wanted 4, however with that little green star his value is up and at a price I just couldn't find a deal. Him for Hovland straight up to me isn't enough value for Hovland, but anyway this is to say the timing of when that previous trade happened also inflated Bergers value.

I was disappointed when I saw it was a straight 1 for 1 as I felt there should have been more added on the Berger side, but everyone agrees to different trades (pretty sure Morikawa has been traded a lot this season). There have been more lopsided trades and I went through all the trades last week trying to find some, but I think with this one a little too little value given for him and the timing made it look less fair as well. Given there is only 1 event they may play in then playoffs and Morikawa being a lock to play final weekend and Berger maybe only 2 weekends depending on play I can see why it was vetoed. 

Hope both of you guys can rework the deal and find something that works for both of you and is able to add the extra value for Morikawa.

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1 minute ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

I can see both sides

Of course you can, you live in Switzerland!

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I think there are (at least) two things we should agree on to make sure these late trades are fair:

  1. Zalatoris trades should be vetoed. Anyone that still has him knew he was a risk, and he gave them a good run. At this point, no playoff-bound team should be shopping him around for a Top 50 (or even Top 75) FedEx guy. Similar to some of the frustration above, I was offered Z for Finau straight up today, which I declined immediately, but I would hope it would get blocked if I accepted. 
  2. Any top tier guy coming from a fringe or out-of-contention team and going to a playoff-bound team should expect a lot of scrutiny. The exception in my mind is if a fringe team is getting someone in the next field to help them with a playoff push. 

I don't disagree with the Berger-Morikawa trade on paper - both are currently in position to make the Tour Championship, and Morikawa might be in position to take a week off (that's still a thing guys do for the Northern Trust, right?), which would put you at a disadvantage. But I get why it was vetoed given the current standings. If it were two playoff teams or if Berger was playing 3M, I'd say let it go through, but there's just no upside for the other team. 

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11 minutes ago, Bucky CC said:

Of course you can, you live in Switzerland!

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I guess I walked into that one.... well played well played

Also small milestone of 300 posts in this thread!

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6 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

I guess I walked into that one.... well played well played

Also small milestone of 300 posts in this thread!

You're welcome, haha.

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Late getting here, what did I miss?



I am kidding of course.

My two cents for what is worth.

Trade offer's come and go, and if is accepted I have no issues with them being processed, regardless of if they could be lopsided, I think at this point, most of us know how to evaluate an offer, the trading sheet is a great tool that was created from @GolfSpy_APH idea of an easy tool to compare players, it does quantify some of the value of the player, but that is just part of it, anyone making a trade should try and understand how their players have been playing as of late and how they might fair on the near future.

Morikawa was part of my roster for a quick second last week, I feel bad now after the open that I did not keep him, but at the time the trade I made gathered me some good value, keeping him would have probably got me a few more wins over the weekend, but we all take a risk trading.

This week I had another trade that was heavily lopsided on my favor, and I even reached back out to ensure that the offer was correct, the other person assured me that it was because they needed players who are playing the next couple of weeks for the final playoff push.

 

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53 minutes ago, xOldBenKenobiX said:

 the other person assured me that it was because they needed players who are playing the next couple of weeks for the final playoff push.

 

This last part is huge at this stage in the season. @GolfSpy_APH mentioned this in one of the posts above, but we were trying to work out a Hovland-for-Tony deal that we just couldn't get right. Neither of us were OK with a 1-for-1 trade for these two, but for very different reasons: he views Hovland as higher value overall (FWIW, so do I); for me, at 16th place, I can't risk another 2-8 week just to get Hovland as my long-term play, so I couldn't give up Tony without getting a decent player back that takes his spot in the field (both of us were actually trying to fill out a solid team for the 3M). Filling his "value" gap and my "playing" gap could have led to something that many view as lopsided, but it would've worked out for both of us given the timing -- if I was in the top 5, I wouldn't have cared so much about replacing Tony in the field, but I need every win I can get right now. We never got there, so hopefully Tony does well this week 🤞

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1 hour ago, ChiefMikeOfficer said:

This last part is huge at this stage in the season. @GolfSpy_APH mentioned this in one of the posts above, but we were trying to work out a Hovland-for-Tony deal that we just couldn't get right. Neither of us were OK with a 1-for-1 trade for these two, but for very different reasons: he views Hovland as higher value overall (FWIW, so do I); for me, at 16th place, I can't risk another 2-8 week just to get Hovland as my long-term play, so I couldn't give up Tony without getting a decent player back that takes his spot in the field (both of us were actually trying to fill out a solid team for the 3M). Filling his "value" gap and my "playing" gap could have led to something that many view as lopsided, but it would've worked out for both of us given the timing -- if I was in the top 5, I wouldn't have cared so much about replacing Tony in the field, but I need every win I can get right now. We never got there, so hopefully Tony does well this week 🤞

To my understanding this played a part in our trade. With Gavin trying to get in the playoff picture and Morikawa likely not playing again until the playoffs start (he's playing the Olympics), he was interested in Berger who he thinks will get hot and help him try to make the playoffs. Personally I hope Berger gets hot now that he's with me for the long ride, haha. 

On a side note, I started to add Rafa a few times this week but every time I take him he burns me. Now I don't take him and it still burns me, haha. Good job @Nunfa0on the pickup, hope he plays well all the way through for ya!

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9 hours ago, Josh Ross said:

To my understanding this played a part in our trade. With Gavin trying to get in the playoff picture and Morikawa likely not playing again until the playoffs start (he's playing the Olympics), he was interested in Berger who he thinks will get hot and help him try to make the playoffs. Personally I hope Berger gets hot now that he's with me for the long ride, haha. 

On a side note, I started to add Rafa a few times this week but every time I take him he burns me. Now I don't take him and it still burns me, haha. Good job @Nunfa0on the pickup, hope he plays well all the way through for ya!

Thanks mate, I have my fingers crossed 😁

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Yuck.  This may end up as my worst showing for the season. That Malnati is my leading scorer pretty much sums it up 🤣.

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12 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

Yuck.  This may end up as my worst showing for the season. That Malnati is my leading scorer pretty much sums it up 🤣.

My team is peaking too early… 4 guys in the top 10… 

Ah well, I’ll enjoy it while I can!  GO RICKIE! 

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Well since we are less than a week away from the trade deadline and there is no event next week, let’s start the negotiations now. I’m making everyone available including JT and Rahm!  I will not give them away but these guys never come available so here is your chance to make an offer. 

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1 hour ago, blackngold_blood said:

Well since we are less than a week away from the trade deadline and there is no event next week, let’s start the negotiations now. I’m making everyone available including JT and Rahm!  I will not give them away but these guys never come available so here is your chance to make an offer. 

"Trade deadline", "no event next week"... clearly I have some catching up to do 😲.

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All 5 of my guys gonna make the cut. Need to keep rolling. Daddy needs some wins. 

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My 4 have made it through and are going quite well 😁

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I had 3 of 4 make it. Macintyre bogies the last hole to miss the cut. Lame.  But my 3 are doing solid led by McNealy. Might have found a keeper for the remainder of the season with my other 5 locked in. Will be changing out my last 2 each of the remaining weeks in hopes of finding the diamond in the rough..

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37 minutes ago, Mtbryant01 said:

I had 3 of 4 make it. Macintyre bogies the last hole to miss the cut. Lame.  But my 3 are doing solid led by McNealy. Might have found a keeper for the remainder of the season with my other 5 locked in. Will be changing out my last 2 each of the remaining weeks in hopes of finding the diamond in the rough..

I picked up McNealy this week as well, very happy that I did 😁

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Wedges: :cleveland-small:     RTX Zipcore - LH - 52° 56° 60° - True Temper Spinner Wedge shafts
Putter:    :rife-putters-1: Barbados Island
Ball:        :titelist-small: Pro V1x

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