Middler Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I try to be pleasant and courteous always. I compliment good shots as often as possible, but I don't say anything that might get into another players head - to the good or bad. I am not a trash talker on the course, my groups tend to confine trash talking outside actual rounds of golf (a good idea IMO). But are there things one can say or do when someone in the foursome is really having an unusually bad day that are certain to help or at least do no harm? Had such a round last week with a player who’s putting totally abandoned him (pace and read), I wasn’t counting but he said he had 5-6 3-putts, and he’s usually a decent (or better) putter. I’ve played with other regulars who’s swing abandoned them as well, versus putting. I’d love to know anything that might help, it’s painful to watch a golf buddy struggle. 00sportsman 1 Quote Titleist TSR2 11° HZRDUS Red CB 50 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 CB 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Mizuno JPX923 HMP 4-GW, T22 54.12WS, T22 58.04DC w Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Midsize Evnroll EV5.3 Maxfli Tour & ProV1 Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Payntr X 002 LE, Ecco Biom C4, Payntr X 001 F (Mesh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Having had lots of bad days - I wouldn't want someone to comment - that would get into my head more. When one of my partners is having a bad day I just let them work it out, figuring that's what I would want. The worst thing for me is if someone tries to offer me advice. Middler, Buffly, Brian A and 2 others 5 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middler Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 hours ago, tony@CIC said: Having had lots of bad days - I wouldn't want someone to comment - that would get into my head more. When one of my partners is having a bad day I just let them work it out, figuring that's what I would want. The worst thing for me is if someone tries to offer me advice. I agree 100%. I wasn’t thinking advice, I never give advice even when asked. More along the lines of something to take their mind off it, shake it off, e.g. the next round will be better. I hate to see a buddy suffering. Buffly, JAGolfore, 00sportsman and 1 other 4 Quote Titleist TSR2 11° HZRDUS Red CB 50 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 CB 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Mizuno JPX923 HMP 4-GW, T22 54.12WS, T22 58.04DC w Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Midsize Evnroll EV5.3 Maxfli Tour & ProV1 Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Payntr X 002 LE, Ecco Biom C4, Payntr X 001 F (Mesh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlH Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 In most cases, the less said, the better. Buffly, DaveP043, 00sportsman and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max (10.5* set at -1 and neutral) -- Mitsubishi Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Fairway: Rogue ST Max 3 wood (16.5*) and Heaven Wood (20*)-- Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Hybrids: Rogue ST Max 5H (23*)--Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Irons: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW -- KBS Tour Graphite TGI 70 shafts R +1/2 inch 3* upright Wedges: Edison 53* and 57* KBS PGI 80 Graphite +1/2 inch 2* upright Putter: L.A.B. DF 2.1 -- BGT Stability shaft Ball: Maxfli TourX...Golf Bag: Pioneer...Shoes: Hyperflex... Glove: Red Rooster Feather My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAGolfore Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 When the game is headed south do not say a word unless they ask. Best to just stay quiet and let them figure it out. Maybe chuckle if they have a good club throw or two. 00sportsman, Buffly and Middler 3 Quote Driver: Callaway Rogue 9* FW: Sub 70 Pro 4 wood Hybrid: Sub 70 949 Hybrid 19* Irons: Sub 70 659 CB 4 - 6 Black 639 MB 7 - PW Wedges: Sub 70 JB - 50* 54* & 60* Putter: Odyssey White Hot #2 Ball: Titleist Pro-V1x Handicap index: +3.9 Instagram: joshandersongolf Twitter: @jacustomgolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian A Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 As other have said, less is more unless I ask what I’m doing wrong. Frustrating having a bad day and someone telling me how to fix it and not being able to. joshuac3, 00sportsman and tony@CIC 3 Quote Driver: G425 9* Hzrdus Smoke Green Small batch 6.5 70g Fairway Wood: Cobra Radspeed Big 3 Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.5 Hybrid: Cobra Aerojet 5 Wood Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.5 Irons: T200 (4-AW) AMT Black Stiff Shafts Wedges: Tour Rack 56* 60* Putter: Scotty Cameron Golo 5 Right Handed Pittsburgh, PA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMex Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Depends who your playing with. With USAF friends , don't even think about starting to complain or make excuses as to why your having a bad round. Your going to get bombarded with NSFW insults, THAT sometimes snapped you out of it by not getting any swing thoughts in your head. Brother in law, about the same, but a little less vulgar. Paired with strangers, not a word. Guess you need to know your audience 00sportsman and Imp 2 Quote DRIVER: Cobra F-8 set at 10.5, Aldila NV 2KXV Blue 60 (R) 44 1/2 " 3 & 5 WOOD: Callaway XR-16, Fujikura Speeder Evolution 565 Red (R) IRONS 5-SW: PING G-700, 2 upright, std loft Alta CB (R) + 1/2" HYBRID 3-4: PING G-410, 1 upright, Alta CB 70 Red (R) + 1/2" PUTTER: Byron Experimental GSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Strokes Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 “helpful” advice on the golf course isn’t unlike advice in real life: if it can’t be fixed in less than a minute, don’t say anything. the only difference is golf course advice should only be given if it’s asked for Brian A, 00sportsman and tony@CIC 3 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulledabill Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I dont say anything. Most of the guys I play with dont want to hear it. I might during a round say something if I see a buddies alignment off when that is not the norm. tony@CIC and 00sportsman 2 Quote DRIVER: Cobra F9 10.5 Tensei AV Blue 65g 3W- Callway XR PRO 16 stiff 5W- Alpha- Mitsubishi Diamana Redboard w/band Irons- Mizuno JPX 919 Tours with S KBS Tour shafts Hyrbid- TM 4h mid-rescue Vokey- Vokey SM5 51 degrees, SM7 Wedges 54 and 58 1/2 half 3 degrees upright Putter- Taylor Made Rossa Monza Mini Spider Ball-ProV1 and AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedaigeki Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 I don't say anything and just keep quiet while looking for there ball unless playing with a certain group of friends, then I'm going to throw so much smack at him and rub as much salt into the wound as possible because I know next time I have a bad day they'll do the same to me. 00sportsman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffly Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 On 12/28/2020 at 8:14 AM, JoshAndersonGolf said: Maybe chuckle if they have a good club throw or two. @Middler I fall into the laugh category of ridiculousness. I make a joke of it to lighten the mood. Or, I might even talk about something totally not golf related at all. I guess I'm that guy. I enjoy the public humiliation of my friend's bad shots by yelling "Fore" with a good little chuckle to boot. Golf is a game - GAME... It should be fun and it can be fun even when the score card doesn't reflect it. If it really is a friend, genuine encouraging words like, "I value our friendship" or "it means a lot to me for my sanity when we get to spend time together on the golf course" because it puts the value on comraderie more than score. When a friend is having a temper tantrum then I might even tell them to snap out of it because it isn't fun for me - a little sarcastic selfishness. Even strangers, "Thanks for letting me join your group (you) because I really don't like golfing alone." I am in the camp that golf is a game not meant to be played alone - I don't enjoy playing alone. This is my preference. I do not discount how some might enjoy playing alone, but not me. Jedaigeki 1 Quote Golf is simple - people are complicated. 5w Taylormade SLDR S 19* - 220yd, Ping G2 5-U - 190-105, Maltby M+ 54* & MG 60* - 95-75, Evnroll ER8, Titleist 816 H1 4h 21*, Maltby 4 Hybrid Iron 24* - 210-200, Callaway XR16 8* - 235 carry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctonr Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 The group I play with doesn't say much if one of us is having a bad day. I usually just say "At least the beer will be good". Buffly and DaveP043 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middler Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 Fortunately the guy I was feeling bad for (and it lasted a couple weeks), snapped out of it himself, no surprise. When I played 18 with him last week he had 6 birdies, and left a couple more strokes out there. He’s back on his game. And I never said a word - I knew that was best, just wondered if anyone had found a way to help I hadn’t thought of. Don’t speak up, but don’t withdraw either - just act as always and let them figure it out in their own time. IF they ask something answer honestly if you have something constructive or objective but don’t elaborate or offer advice (unless you’re really qualified). Buffly 1 Quote Titleist TSR2 11° HZRDUS Red CB 50 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 CB 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Mizuno JPX923 HMP 4-GW, T22 54.12WS, T22 58.04DC w Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Midsize Evnroll EV5.3 Maxfli Tour & ProV1 Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Payntr X 002 LE, Ecco Biom C4, Payntr X 001 F (Mesh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenGolfer Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 On 12/27/2020 at 12:20 PM, Middler said: I try to be pleasant and courteous always. I compliment good shots as often as possible, but I don't say anything that might get into another players head - to the good or bad. I am not a trash talker on the course, my groups tend to confine trash talking outside actual rounds of golf (a good idea IMO). But are there things one can say or do when someone in the foursome is really having an unusually bad day that are certain to help or at least do no harm? Had such a round last week with a player who’s putting totally abandoned him (pace and read), I wasn’t counting but he said he had 5-6 3-putts, and he’s usually a decent (or better) putter. I’ve played with other regulars who’s swing abandoned them as well, versus putting. I’d love to know anything that might help, it’s painful to watch a golf buddy struggle. Sometimes saying nothing is the best thing that you can say. You dont want to give them some encouragement and have them feel like you are patronizing them. Id just try to be supportive when they hit a good one. Beyond that, just leave them be. Quote "I suppose its better to be a master of 7 than to be vaguely familiar with 14." - Chick Evans Whats in my Sun Mountain 2.5+ stand bag? Woods: Tommy Armour Atomic 10.5* Hybrid: Mizuno MP Fli-Hi 3H Irons: Mizuno T-Zoid True 5, 7 and 9-irons Wedge: Mizuno S18 54* and Top Flite chipper Putter: Mizuno Bettinardi A-02 Ball: Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParFore74x Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Say nothing about their game but carry on conversation that has nothing to do with golf. If I am the one having a tough day, this gets me out of my own head and back to having a good time regardless of how I am playing and usually helps my game. Quote TSi3 10° w/ Mitsubishi Tensei 1K Black 65g TS2 15° 3W w/ Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.0 70g 818 H1 21° Hybrid w/ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Blue 70g MP-18 MMC 2 iron w/ KBS Tour C-Taper S 120g JPX 921 HM 5-GW w/ Project X LZ 5.5 115g JB Forged 54° & 58° w/ Project X LZ 6.0 120g EV5.3 Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedaigeki Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I think it really depends on the situation your in. Are you in a competition, how well do you know the person, what's their personality like etc. So many factors to consider. I know when playing with friends and it's not serious and only a couple of pounds on the line for beer that any bad shot by anyone will get multiple comments. If it's a competition then I don't say anything and don't expect anything form others other maybe a few words of encouragement, again that depends on the personality and how they will take the comment. As a general safe rule, less said the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 As background, my wife and I golf together a lot. With that said: I'm going to have my wife read this entire thread particularly the comments about her saying NOTHING when I'm having a bad day on the course. Jedaigeki, joshuac3, Chip Strokes and 2 others 1 4 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedaigeki Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 hours ago, tony@CIC said: As background, my wife and I golf together a lot. With that said: I'm going to have my wife read this entire thread particularly the comments about her saying NOTHING when I'm having a bad day on the course. I golf with my wife also, if I'm having a bad day, she's recording on her phone and sending to all my friends tony@CIC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Jedaigeki said: I golf with my wife also, if I'm having a bad day, she's recording on her phone and sending to all my friends Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 We're fairly honest with each other. The last guy to struggle during a round was close to losing it...naturally, the worst player in our group started giving him mid-round lessons. "Hey Marcus, your grip is just too weak for how strong of a man that your are." "Hey Marcus, stick your ass out a little further to help supinate your lead forearm into impact." "Marcus, do you smile or frown during your downswing?" It helped...we all couldn't stop laughing and quality of his play turned right around. He was so distracted by the ridiculous tips he couldn't focus on how bad he was playing. Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Less is more I think - I just try to kid around and comment on whatever might seem like fun. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 If I say anything it is “good effort”.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattF Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 hours ago, fozcycle said: If I say anything it is “good effort”. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy That's not what you said the last time we played together...you suck is firmly imprinted in my noggin! Jedaigeki 1 Quote In the bag: Driver: Darkspeed X 9° UST Mamiya LIN-Q M40X Blue 7F4 Fairway: Apex UW 19° & 21° Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 5.5 Irons: JPX 923 HMP 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Bag: Fairway 14 stand bag Balls: Chrome Tour Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 God Bless America, God save the King, God defend New Zealand and thank Christ for Australia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBAGGS Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I will usually not say a word, keep everything in that could be helpful or harmful, thinking things will straighten out. After my next 6 crappy shots, I will then start yelling expletives at myself, making everyone in my group uncomfortable. Pretty standard actually. Quote Driver: Epic Speed TD LS 9* / Ventus Blue 6X Fairway: Epic Speed 16.5* / Motore X F1 7X Hybrid: CBX 19* / Atmos Blue 7S Irons: JPX 921 Forged 4i, JPX 921 Tour 5i-PW / Rifle 6.0 Wedges: 51.11F RAW, 55.11D RAW, 59.07M RAW / Rifle 6.0 Putter: GSS Dale Head Custom 34.5" Ball: 2021 ProV-1X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveP043 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 "First beer's on me." Jedaigeki and Chip Strokes 2 Quote Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Strokes Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, DaveP043 said: "First beer's on me." /thread. Jedaigeki 1 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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