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From lesson, book, TV, internet, friend etc.?

 

Since I've been back swinging the clubs so far what seems to be working well for me is simply keeping my elbows tight to my body and rotating my shoulders so my lead shoulder is pointing down at the ball at the top of my backswing. Saw it on a Tom Saguto vid referred to as stack and tilt method I think.

 

I'm at the point of setting money aside for some lessons. The question with that is, what is the minimum amount I should take to make it really worthwhile? 

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Find a way to make par.

Don't be too hard on yourself, celebrate the good shots, and develop a short memory for the bad ones.

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My brother loves to tell me I'm not good enough to get mad.   While this is a little offensive, the basic idea is sound, getting mad is a waste of energy and time.

Mad being club-bending/slamming/chucking, gorilla-type stuff, not the occasional "damn it".

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Swing flaws can be traced back to either poor setup, poor back swing, or poor transition, or all of them.  Monte.

The amount of time and money spent to make it worthwhile depends on the quality of instruction, the ability and willingness of a person to learn, and commitment to practice...  based my experience.

The golf swing takes 1.5 seconds; a million words have been written about it; and all of it is garbage.  {or something like that}.  Gary Player.

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1 hour ago, TexasFloyd said:

From lesson, book, TV, internet, friend etc.?

 

Since I've been back swinging the clubs so far what seems to be working well for me is simply keeping my elbows tight to my body and rotating my shoulders so my lead shoulder is pointing down at the ball at the top of my backswing. Saw it on a Tom Saguto vid referred to as stack and tilt method I think.

 

I'm at the point of setting money aside for some lessons. The question with that is, what is the minimum amount I should take to make it really worthwhile? 

The best advice Ive ever gotten it still the advice that my neibor gave me when I first got into golf back in '99.  He was an old, retired Army vet who fought in Korea and later became a teacher.  Full-blooded Irish.  He turned me on to big band music (used to call it the greatest music ever made) and drove an old Chevy K5 Blazer that had an horn that would play the General Lee horn and back in the day played with a full set of Hogan Apex clubs and a leather staff bag so, yeah, cool dude.

Anyways, he told me when I first got into golf that I should never take the game seriously.  He told me, "if you take golf seriously, it will eat you alive."  Its something that Ive always tried to take to heart and I really think its one of my strengths on the golf course.  Im so calm and cool and I never let any bad shot or even bad round get me down.  I also never let a good shot or good round let me get too high or too confident because I know its fleeting.

I play with a lot of randoms and many of them marvel at many things about my game.  Most of them marvel at how silky smooth my swing is (Ive even had some compare my swing to Fred Couples, which is quite a complment.  One of my budies even told me that I look like Im not even trying but the ball just goes and goes).  What most dont notice though is how grounded and calm I am, almost like I dont even care.

Ive always looked at it like I play golf for fun, not to make a living; so why would I get upset?

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Don't take advice from friends or youtube or the golf channel because it will just mess you up.

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Slow down. Whether that be your thought process, you're pre-swing routine, you're swing, or anything you're doing on the course. More likely than not, you're rushing something. Besides, "golf is meant to be enjoyed, so why are you rushing yourself through it and messing yourself up as a result?"

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Putting was the bane of my golfing life.  Struggled with it as the rest of my game got better and better.  Finally after returning to the game from a decade hiatus and finding MGS, I kept reading about putter fittings.  Went and got properly fitted for a putter and it has made a ton of difference.  Now instead of dreading putting I can't wait to get on the green and sink some putts!

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90* at the knees from the start, allows you to shoot right at the heart!  Keeps my thoughts on proper turn and club path from the start so that everything else gets in sync. 

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13 hours ago, TexasFloyd said:

From lesson, book, TV, internet, friend etc.?

 

Since I've been back swinging the clubs so far what seems to be working well for me is simply keeping my elbows tight to my body and rotating my shoulders so my lead shoulder is pointing down at the ball at the top of my backswing. Saw it on a Tom Saguto vid referred to as stack and tilt method I think.

 

I'm at the point of setting money aside for some lessons. The question with that is, what is the minimum amount I should take to make it really worthwhile? 

Re: the last question. 

Ask around for the top teaching PGA pro's in your area.  Get a good sample from people of who they think. Then you have to go and meet them to see if you're a good match and comfortable with that individual teaching you.  Not all matches work, so I find that to be a very important part of the process.  As to the cost, it's really tough to tell you set X amount aside.  Frankly, there's going to be some trial and error here so it may go up.  I'd say good rule of thumb is start with one lesson and see how you feel after that.  Typically that's a good gauge if you're comfortable with the individual and their personality.  If the fit is good you go from there.  If not, you move on to the next one.  

Finding the right fit as far as personality and mesh with you is CRITICAL to achieving your overall success. 

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2 minutes ago, TexasFloyd said:

Can you explain please?

well, it's not exact but the thought process goes something like this...

On the take away you don't want to go outside the line or too far inside the line.  Either way too much will produce horrible results. (Push or pulls drastically) 

So when you take the club back you go low from the take address position and the wrists should be starting to hing around your knees. If you were to video yourself in the swing you would see right around the knee point the wrists should be hinging and the club all but or exactly parallel to the ground. The shoulder turn to achieve that would be natural and not forced.  Careful distinction there because I believe a lot of people try to do it all with your shoulders and that will get your entire swing out of sync.  

This thought process allows me to set the club parallel to the ground rather easily and then achieve the proper placement at the top of my swing.  I find that once you get to that point you will naturally achieve the appropriate spot the bottom at impact.  

I should note that I had a horrible practice of Furyk'ing the swing for many years.  I was an extremely out to in type guy.  That wasn't an issue when my swing timing was in a good spot, but from a consistency standpoint I suffered drastic highs and likewise drastic lows.  So I had to work with some pro's to rebuild the entire swing.  

Fairly difficult to explain the thought process here, but it works for me.  I believe Nick Faldo taught something like this or was on some videos talking about where that club should be around knee height and the parallel to the ground point. 

Hope that makes sense. 

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Find a club/swing to produce a shot that carries 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, and 100 yards. Drill those feels in during practice. Then learn how much roll out you get at each of those distances with 2 or 3 clubs. 

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If you focus on swinging the entire club towards the target, the ball will go in that general direction.

This mental thought can get you out of a rut if you are hitting the ball erratically and have no sense of control. The other thing I like to think about in conjunction with the above thought is focusing on the process and not the result. You control the club, not the ball, so focus on swinging the entire club down the target line. 

Your second question about lessons is harder because it really depends on your level of practice and commitment. I would say find a pro you like and take a few lessons or buy a small pack of lessons. I wouldn't commit to a $500 or $1000+ package until after I've had a few lessons from a pro to determine if I like their style. Realistically, if you wanted to really improve over the course of one year, you could spend in the ballpark of $250 - $750. You don't need a lesson every week to improve. Taking three to five lessons over the spring and summer can lead to massive benefits but if the budget allows, you can always do more. You should generally be able to find a pro that charges in the $50 - $70/hour range. Paying over $100/hour is a premium that I generally don't think is justified if it's just range time. There are a lot of pros out there I've found the key is to try and find the ones that are good at teaching even if they aren't that good of a golfer. Look for pros that teach classes or are more involved with instruction because they are generally better at communicating than other pros. I've taken lessons from a couple pros that give you a few drills and don't work with you much and I've taken lessons from a pro that has a genuine love for teaching and is great at communicating and asking questions. You can guess which pro helped me more. It's not always easy to find good pros but you'll know it when you do.

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This swing sequence picture of DJ.  I've always been a flipper.  Even though I knew it I struggled to feel what it was to not flip.  This picture (with a driver!) gave me a good mental picture of a good position to strive for.  Not saying I'm there but I can feel like I have my hands in front now.  To me having your hands this far forwards seems insane but who's going to argue with DJ?

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