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Good afternoon. I'm newer to playing more consistently (since early October or so) and would like to keep an official handicap more so to have an not lose information as I try to get better than use in tournaments (although maybe one day!). Currently I'm just tracking rounds using 18birdies which gives me an unofficial handicap but I'd rather have a place where it won't get wiped if I switch to a different app. I'm not a member at a local club and can't really afford to join one. I was looking at just doing online only handicap or if it would be better to go through a local golf club. If I do club, would it make a difference in going through closest club to my house or the one I play most regularly, which is a little further? Appreciate it.

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Good afternoon. I'm newer to playing more consistently (since early October or so) and would like to keep an official handicap more so to have an not lose information as I try to get better than use in tournaments (although maybe one day!). Currently I'm just tracking rounds using 18birdies which gives me an unofficial handicap but I'd rather have a place where it won't get wiped if I switch to a different app. I'm not a member at a local club and can't really afford to join one. I was looking at just doing online only handicap or if it would be better to go through a local golf club. If I do club, would it make a difference in going through closest club to my house or the one I play most regularly, which is a little further? Appreciate it.
The USGA fee will be the same at either club. I don't think the club itself matters unless you're playing tournaments. And the USGA will assign that course as your home course, so there is the small detail that you post a score as home or away. But if your just tracking for your own benefit and progress none of that matters.

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Those are both very helpful thank you. If there's anyone local to VA it seemed at least looking at VSGA website that doing it through eclub also included the VA VIP card which included deals at some courses as well. Just wanted to see if anyone had any experience with that.

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You could use The Grint, they have a free membership that includes official USGA handicapping.

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I don’t belong to a local course anymore, I recently joined an online chapter of the USGA and I get my handicap that way.


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If you use your local club, you can then download the GHIN app and post your scores on your phone.


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If you play a local course regularly you might be able to pay them just for the handicap and get a GHIN number


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On 1/15/2021 at 1:45 PM, Curtis Atkinson said:

Good afternoon. I'm newer to playing more consistently (since early October or so) and would like to keep an official handicap more so to have an not lose information as I try to get better than use in tournaments (although maybe one day!). Currently I'm just tracking rounds using 18birdies which gives me an unofficial handicap but I'd rather have a place where it won't get wiped if I switch to a different app. I'm not a member at a local club and can't really afford to join one. I was looking at just doing online only handicap or if it would be better to go through a local golf club. If I do club, would it make a difference in going through closest club to my house or the one I play most regularly, which is a little further? Appreciate it.

My local course offers GHIN handicaps for $25/year. The Louisiana Golf Association is the official source, so any public course here can offer it if they want. Check with the public courses, or at worst, call your State Golf Association.

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I generally recommend that you join through a golf course near to you, and the one you play most is probably the best choice.  The biggest advantage is that when you join through a VSGA club, you'll be assigned a number in GHIN (the USGA computational service) that will remain yours for as long as you choose to play, wherever you go within the USGA jurisdiction.  You're in Purcellville, where do you generally play?

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37 minutes ago, fozcycle said:

If you use your local club, you can then download the GHIN app and post your scores on your phone.


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Is that in the format of an electronic scorecard, gross score, ??  

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Is that in the format of an electronic scorecard, gross score, ??  
You can post overall gross score or hole-by-hole. Though I believe if you post gross, you don't receive the equitable stroke adjustment.

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1 minute ago, Tsmithjr9 said:

You can post overall gross score or hole-by-hole. Though I believe if you post gross, you don't receive the equitable stroke adjustment.

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A good portion of my year is in Montana and I play a lot of solo rounds, pretty much split between two courses.  How does the old "attest" score work?

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40 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

I generally recommend that you join through a golf course near to you, and the one you play most is probably the best choice.  The biggest advantage is that when you join through a VSGA club, you'll be assigned a number in GHIN (the USGA computational service) that will remain yours for as long as you choose to play, wherever you go within the USGA jurisdiction.  You're in Purcellville, where do you generally play?

Yeah definitely looking for something that will stay with me which was why the VSGA eClub seemed like a good option because it includes GHIN and the VIP card for deals at VA courses. Yes I live in Purcellville but have been playing mostly a handful of courses out in Front Royal since they're a little more on the affordable side for me. Played the most at Bowling Green North out there. 

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A good portion of my year is in Montana and I play a lot of solo rounds, pretty much split between two courses.  How does the old "attest" score work?
A few years back the USGA said players could no longer post solo rounds for handicap purposes. But I'm in your boat where 80% of my rounds are solo. So I post them anyway. I think it was a bad decision by the USGA to maybe this change, golf is a game of honor after all.

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3 hours ago, Curtis Atkinson said:

Yeah definitely looking for something that will stay with me which was why the VSGA eClub seemed like a good option because it includes GHIN and the VIP card for deals at VA courses. Yes I live in Purcellville but have been playing mostly a handful of courses out in Front Royal since they're a little more on the affordable side for me. Played the most at Bowling Green North out there. 

I suggest you look at getting a handicap through Bowling Green, or another course you play regularly.  Usually the Handicap Fee is in the range or $30 to $40, depending on the course.  I see the eClub fee is $99, and includes the VIP card ($65 on its own).  Choose whichever is best for you.  

1 hour ago, Tsmithjr9 said:

A few years back the USGA said players could no longer post solo rounds for handicap purposes. But I'm in your boat where 80% of my rounds are solo. So I post them anyway. I think it was a bad decision by the USGA to maybe this change, golf is a game of honor after all.

The change was made in 2016, and I have been told that this small change was one of the first moves bringing our handicap system closer to the rest of the world.  It was the precursor to the 2020 WHS.  Golf is indeed a game of honor.  It is honorable to choose to play the game in accordance with the Rules of Golf, even when nobody is watching.  It is also honorable to POST your scores in accordance with the Rules of Handicapping, even when nobody is watching.  The change was not at all about honor, it was about the beginnings of global unification of handicap systems.  Making up your own rules does show something about honor.

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10 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

The change was made in 2016, and I have been told that this small change was one of the first moves bringing our handicap system closer to the rest of the world.  It was the precursor to the 2020 WHS.  Golf is indeed a game of honor.  It is honorable to choose to play the game in accordance with the Rules of Golf, even when nobody is watching.  It is also honorable to POST your scores in accordance with the Rules of Handicapping, even when nobody is watching.  The change was not at all about honor, it was about the beginnings of global unification of handicap systems.  Making up your own rules does show something about honor.

This reply reaffirms why I don't keep a formal USGA handicap.  Regardless of a USGA or global system, it simply leaves a population of the golfing community out due to their particular play conditions. Maybe when we relocate to AZ and I get in a league, I'll reconsider. So, I maintain an Excel spreadsheet that uses the same method of calculation.  Most events I have participated in (I don't that often) use the honor system anyway and do not require a formal handicap. 

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31 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

I suggest you look at getting a handicap through Bowling Green, or another course you play regularly.  Usually the Handicap Fee is in the range or $30 to $40, depending on the course.  I see the eClub fee is $99, and includes the VIP card ($65 on its own).  Choose whichever is best for you.  

The change was made in 2016, and I have been told that this small change was one of the first moves bringing our handicap system closer to the rest of the world.  It was the precursor to the 2020 WHS.  Golf is indeed a game of honor.  It is honorable to choose to play the game in accordance with the Rules of Golf, even when nobody is watching.  It is also honorable to POST your scores in accordance with the Rules of Handicapping, even when nobody is watching.  The change was not at all about honor, it was about the beginnings of global unification of handicap systems.  Making up your own rules does show something about honor.

All this has been really helpful. As a newbie, and playing most of the time with guys who aren't going to get any sort of handicap, how does this method go about being attested to by guys I'm playing with. I've seen that you can input scores online via website/app but noticed on Grint and such that I could input email address for it to be sent to people I played with even if they didn't have a Grint account. How does that work with GHIN?

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This reply reaffirms why I don't keep a formal USGA handicap.  Regardless of a USGA or global system, it simply leaves a population of the golfing community out due to their particular play conditions. Maybe when we relocate to AZ and I get in a league, I'll reconsider. So, I maintain an Excel spreadsheet that uses the same method of calculation.  Most events I have participated in (I don't that often) use the honor system anyway and do not require a formal handicap. 
Agreed. The USGA doesn't give two craps about public course golfers.

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17 minutes ago, Tsmithjr9 said:

Agreed. The USGA doesn't give two craps about public course golfers.

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Well, I'm not thinking it is so much a matter of public course vs. private or otherwise as it is the belief that unattested rounds are suspect. We live in a very rural area and have a very small population of golfers.  I'm retired and choose to play during the week to take advantage of even less crowds.  Playing solo easily makes up 60% of my rounds in MT and a good many of those I'm able to play a two ball format all or part of the hole... so that's my upside.  If their was a system that would allow unattested rounds, I'd consider it at present time.  Until then, I'll keep my own.

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