Buffly Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Hey gentlemen, I am a poor golfer (oxymoron). Looking into a new-ish big stick, but can't afford anything much over 2 bills (~$200). I am currently gaming a Callaway XR16 9.0 with a Project X LZ stiff shaft at stated neutral settings. I struggle with consistently finding the center of the face in part due to droop and in part L.O.F.T. (lack of friggin talent). I have hit some bombs over 300+ yards total, but I flare a few out to the right and high more than I would like. My swing speed is close to 100 +/- 8 mph depending on the day. Also, I think I would benefit from less spin overall because I hover in the 2700rpm range +/- 600rpm (you can laugh). I have heard good things about the Maltby KE4 TC and Tour Edge EXS which both seem somewhat affordable new. However, the Ping G400 LST used seems also in my budget. I am planning on a fitting either way to narrow down some specs, so which driver would you like me to check out? Quote Golf is simple - people are complicated. 5w Taylormade SLDR S 19* - 220yd, Ping G2 5-U - 190-105, Maltby M+ 54* & MG 60* - 95-75, Evnroll ER8, Titleist 816 H1 4h 21*, Maltby 4 Hybrid Iron 24* - 210-200, Callaway XR16 8* - 235 carry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye64 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 If you go with the Maltby KE4 TC there is a money back guarantee. If you hate it send it back. Best deal in golf with a great guarantee.Sent from my SM-G981U using Tapatalk NRJyzr, Kansas King and Buffly 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenGolfer Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Tommy Armour 845. $220. Ive got an older model, the Tommy Armour Atomic and its an awesome driver. Forgiving and long. Quote "I suppose its better to be a master of 7 than to be vaguely familiar with 14." - Chick Evans Whats in my Sun Mountain 2.5+ stand bag? Woods: Tommy Armour Atomic 10.5* Hybrid: Mizuno MP Fli-Hi 3H Irons: Mizuno T-Zoid True 5, 7 and 9-irons Wedge: Mizuno S18 54* and Top Flite chipper Putter: Mizuno Bettinardi A-02 Ball: Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHolmes Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Ping g400 max, best driver two years running. Remarkably forgiving, consistent. Sent from my SM-G950U using MyGolfSpy mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03trdblack Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, JDHolmes said: Ping g400 max, best driver two years running. Remarkably forgiving, consistent. Sent from my SM-G950U using MyGolfSpy mobile app Still hard to find this under $200 Quote My bag is a revolving door! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Strokes Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, 03trdblack said: Still hard to find this under $200 i hit the absolute lotto and grabbed a G400 LST head for 75, then paired it with an atmos black shaft for 100. azstu324, Shapotomous and juspoole 3 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmmmmmBuddy Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Second the G400. I’m still playing this driver 3 years later. (This in an eternity for me). Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Driver - Ping G430 Max 9° | Ventus Blue TR Hybrid - ZX 16° & 18° | GD Tour IZ S 2 Iron - ZU65 17° | AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S Irons - ZX7 MKII 4-Pw | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Wedges - RTX 6 Tour Rack 50° 54° 58° | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Putter - L.A.B. Golf Link.1 | LA Golf P135 shaft | Garsen Quad Tour grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 I have g400 max and love it. But it is hard to pick a driver without actually hitting it and seeing how it performs. Too many options that can provide a variety of results. Buffly 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 As much of a "fanboy" of Maltby as I am, I'd have to nudge you toward the G400 just because I've hit it in the past and it lives up to ALL claims and hype. and like @cnosil pointed out, you would want to try and hit one to see how it performs and which model is best for your swing.. Or take the anti-Reading Rainbow approach and just "take our word for it" (that reference might be way right field OB ). At this point you should probably be able to find one nearly new for your price. That said, @Popeye64 did a very informative comparison between the KE4 TC and TM SIM and from my recollection, the KE4 nearly wiped the floor with the SIM. I Play the SIM Max and love it so that might be something to throw into the hat for consideration..? Good luck man. Let us know what you end up with! Eric Elliott, Kansas King, NRJyzr and 2 others 5 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 The Ping will mitigate spin but honestly 2700 rpm is not that big an issue.Since you won’t be able to get fit I’d go with the most adjustable one that you can find in your price range. Also once you get it try and check whether shaft length is partially responsible for your inconsistently - It’s easy enough to see where you are contacting the ball on the face of a Ping Driver. If a pattern emerges on your club face you may see that taking 1/2 off or finding a shaft that’s 1/2 longer is a potential nudge in the consistency direction,Good luck and let us know what you choose. I moved from the G400 LST to the 410 plus. Totally regret it but the guy whom I sold the 400 to won’t hear of trading the two so that I can get it back. :(Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Buffly and cnosil 2 Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom the Golf Nut Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 What more can I say.... Look at my signature! G400 is staying in the bag. Absolute fairway finder and longer than anything else I have owned. The two other guys I normally play with also have G400's in the bag. Buffly 1 Quote Driver, TSi 1 S Flex 3 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 7 Wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 Hybrid King Tec MMT R Flex Irons, Tour UST Recoil 95 R Flex (6 - Gap) Wedges, Snakebite KBS Hi- Rev2.0 54* & 60* Agera 35" Ultralight 14-way Cart Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffly Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 21 hours ago, JDHolmes said: Ping g400 max, best driver two years running. Remarkably forgiving, consistent. Sent from my SM-G950U using MyGolfSpy mobile app When I tried the max I was getting 3300rpm spin. I can only attribute that to the rear COG that the Max has. I am leaning more towards forward COG and/or a stiffer tip shaft than what I have now to lower launch and spin. I'm not an X flex when I look at my averages. But, the few X flex clubs I have do seem to work well with my "best" swings - usually in the faster range. I'm still leaning to the G400 LST, Maltby TC, or even a Taylormade M1/3/5 - probably the M3 due to cost. I can't wrap my head around Srixon, Mizuno, Wilson, or Cobra drivers for whatever mental block I have. Titleist seems to hold value well, so I am not sure which 3-5 year old model is the low spin option? I have a local big box that I can usually find lots of used options in stock to try before I buy... Just trying to narrow down the options. Who knows, I may end up with a std G400 in X flex at 10.5° turned down to 9.5°? I'm open to playing with it to figure it out. BKordon 1 Quote Golf is simple - people are complicated. 5w Taylormade SLDR S 19* - 220yd, Ping G2 5-U - 190-105, Maltby M+ 54* & MG 60* - 95-75, Evnroll ER8, Titleist 816 H1 4h 21*, Maltby 4 Hybrid Iron 24* - 210-200, Callaway XR16 8* - 235 carry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlow206 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 quickshipgolf on ebay, scour for deals there. Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKordon Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Buffly said: When I tried the max I was getting 3300rpm spin. I can only attribute that to the rear COG that the Max has. I am leaning more towards forward COG and/or a stiffer tip shaft than what I have now to lower launch and spin. I'm not an X flex when I look at my averages. But, the few X flex clubs I have do seem to work well with my "best" swings - usually in the faster range. I'm still leaning to the G400 LST, Maltby TC, or even a Taylormade M1/3/5 - probably the M3 due to cost. I can't wrap my head around Srixon, Mizuno, Wilson, or Cobra drivers for whatever mental block I have. Titleist seems to hold value well, so I am not sure which 3-5 year old model is the low spin option? I have a local big box that I can usually find lots of used options in stock to try before I buy... Just trying to narrow down the options. Who knows, I may end up with a std G400 in X flex at 10.5° turned down to 9.5°? I'm open to playing with it to figure it out. Mizuno, in my opinion, is worth a look. I bought the ST 190 G due to being able to hit it on a multi company demo day I attended. The rep didn’t have a line, so I thought I’d give it a go. He also had. Trackman set up, which was an opportunity I’d never gotten. Long story short, I bought the driver and it is still in my bag for year three. I picked up a ST200G as a back up and I haven’t put it in play. I had a couple of rounds in the late summer, early fall where I didn’t miss a fairway with my driver. Include that with when I do miss a fairway, it’s by a yard or two and I’m not tempted to go back to Titleist. It’s also plenty long. Buffly and Shapotomous 1 1 Quote Mizuno ST190, 9 degrees, Fujikura Ventus Black 6S Mizuno ST190, 14 degrees, Fujikura Ventus Black 7S Mizuno ST200 , 18 degrees, Fujikura Ventus Blue 7X Miura CB 301, 4 iron, Fujikura Ventus 9x Miura CB 301, 5-PW Nippon Modus 120S Miura K Grind, 52, 54 and 58, Nippon Modus 130s hand ground by Usher Golf Miura KM 006 LH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHolmes Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 I've owned, played, and sold the TM M4, Epic Rogue, Rogue sub zero, Epic Flash, Cobra F7,8, 9, LTD, Ping G25 and G in the last two years and after owning and playing all of them, I sold everything and kept only the Ping G400 (with project X LZ). (It's hard being a "club-ho" with only one driver)It's not the longest but is the most consistent and for MY game, thats most important. I've owned as many as 14 drivers at one time, always searching for "that" driver. (Yes, i have a variety of shafts for each brand).I've hit and/or owned everything on the market and, for me, its the one. The others are good, but consistent distance and in the fairway just makes the game more fun. Hitting 300 and having trees blocking the second shot ot taking a penalty shot in tournament play is not good.I also recommend quickship on ebay. Ive bought many things from them.Sent from my SM-G950U using MyGolfSpy mobile app Eric Elliott 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rchang Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 1/22/2021 at 10:27 AM, revkev said: Good luck and let us know what you choose. I moved from the G400 LST to the 410 plus. Totally regret it but the guy whom I sold the 400 to won’t hear of trading the two so that I can get it back. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Sorry off topic, but what did you regret about going to the 410 plus? Quote WITB TS2 10.5 M2 3HL Mavrik Max 5W Titleist 818 4 hybrid Mizuno JPX921 HMP 5-Gap Mizuno S19 56 Maltby TSW 60 Bobby Grace Shiloh putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57charlie Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 11:49 AM, Buffly said: Hey gentlemen, I am a poor golfer (oxymoron). Looking into a new-ish big stick, but can't afford anything much over 2 bills (~$200). I am currently gaming a Callaway XR16 9.0 with a Project X LZ stiff shaft at stated neutral settings. I struggle with consistently finding the center of the face in part due to droop and in part L.O.F.T. (lack of friggin talent). I have hit some bombs over 300+ yards total, but I flare a few out to the right and high more than I would like. My swing speed is close to 100 +/- 8 mph depending on the day. Also, I think I would benefit from less spin overall because I hover in the 2700rpm range +/- 600rpm (you can laugh). I have heard good things about the Maltby KE4 TC and Tour Edge EXS which both seem somewhat affordable new. However, the Ping G400 LST used seems also in my budget. I am planning on a fitting either way to narrow down some specs, so which driver would you like me to check out? Buffly: See if you can find a Ping G400 LST with 10.5* loft & regular shaft. Adjust the loft to 11*. Your swing speed of 100 +/- 8 mph doesn't warrant a stiff shaft. Pretty sure you'll be pleasantly surprised with this setup. Eric Elliott 1 Quote Taylormade SIM MAX 12* Driver Callaway Great Big Bertha Hawkeye 3, 5 and 7 woods Top Flite Titanium Intimidator 7 wood Mizuno JPX-923 Hot Metal, High Launch irons, 6-PW, GW Taylormade Milled Grind SW, 54* Cleveland RTX-3, 60* LW Cleveland Huntington Beach 6 Centre Shaft Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffly Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 7 hours ago, 57charlie said: Buffly: See if you can find a Ping G400 LST with 10.5* loft & regular shaft. Adjust the loft to 11*. Your swing speed of 100 +/- 8 mph doesn't warrant a stiff shaft. Pretty sure you'll be pleasantly surprised with this setup. I'll give that a try. I'm going to get fitted regardless of my "thoughts" of what I think I need. My experience is that R flex doesn't give me the consistency that S does. I know X flex feels boardy to me unless I swing out of my boots. My last round had 4+ drives of 270-280 and an eagle with a 9.0° and an S flex XR16 driver. When I swung R flex the distance was similar to slightly shorter on average. My issue is more of feeling more comfortable with a heavier club in general. Lighter flexes usually also weigh less too. Like I said, I will give it a go. Quote Golf is simple - people are complicated. 5w Taylormade SLDR S 19* - 220yd, Ping G2 5-U - 190-105, Maltby M+ 54* & MG 60* - 95-75, Evnroll ER8, Titleist 816 H1 4h 21*, Maltby 4 Hybrid Iron 24* - 210-200, Callaway XR16 8* - 235 carry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook DeLoft Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 8:20 PM, Chip Strokes said: i hit the absolute lotto and grabbed a G400 LST head for 75, then paired it with an atmos black shaft for 100. You sicken me. Chip Strokes 1 Quote 14 of the following: Ping G430 Max 10.5 degree Callaway 2023 Big Bertha 3 wood set to 17 degrees Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees Callaway Epic Max 11 wood Ping Eye 2 BeCu 2-SW Mizuno 923 JPX HM HL 6-GW Hogan sand wedge 56 degree bent to 53 Maltby M Series+ 54 degree Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree Evnroll ER2 Ping Sigma 2 Anser Cheap Top Flite mallet putter from Dick's, currently holding down first place in the bag TaylorMade Mini Spider Bridgestone XS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Strokes Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Hook DeLoft said: You sicken me. i had no idea my wife had a MGS account pozzit and GolfSpy_BNG 2 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BNG Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 If your looking to stay sub $200, I would watch out for the Mizuno ST190. Can be had for 100-125 head only. Then find a few year old aftermarket shaft on the bst or eBay. Quote What is in my Sun Mountain C-130 bag or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: Dark speed LS 8* set to -1.5* with an Attas Daaas 4x shaft @ 45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: SMS Pros 4-PW with Steelfiber I95s Wedges: SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge shaft Putters: Mezz.1 34” 69* lie EV5.1 black 33.5” 69* lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook DeLoft Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said: i had no idea my wife had a MGS account Quote 14 of the following: Ping G430 Max 10.5 degree Callaway 2023 Big Bertha 3 wood set to 17 degrees Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees Callaway Epic Max 11 wood Ping Eye 2 BeCu 2-SW Mizuno 923 JPX HM HL 6-GW Hogan sand wedge 56 degree bent to 53 Maltby M Series+ 54 degree Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree Evnroll ER2 Ping Sigma 2 Anser Cheap Top Flite mallet putter from Dick's, currently holding down first place in the bag TaylorMade Mini Spider Bridgestone XS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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