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Hey gentlemen,

I am a poor golfer (oxymoron). Looking into a new-ish big stick, but can't afford anything much over 2 bills (~$200). 

I am currently gaming a Callaway XR16 9.0 with a Project X LZ stiff shaft at stated neutral settings. I struggle with consistently finding the center of the face in part due to droop and in part L.O.F.T. (lack of friggin talent). I have hit some bombs over 300+ yards total, but I flare a few out to the right and high more than I would like. My swing speed is close to 100 +/- 8 mph depending on the day. Also, I think I would benefit from less spin overall because I hover in the 2700rpm range +/- 600rpm (you can 😂 laugh).

I have heard good things about the Maltby KE4 TC and Tour Edge EXS which both seem somewhat affordable new. However, the Ping G400 LST used seems also in my budget. I am planning on a fitting either way to narrow down some specs, so which driver would you like me to check out?

Golf is simple - people are complicated.

5w Taylormade SLDR S 19* - 220yd, Ping G2 5-U - 190-105, Maltby M+ 54* & MG 60* - 95-75, Evnroll ER8, Titleist 816 H1 4h 21*, Maltby 4 Hybrid Iron 24* - 210-200, Callaway XR16 8* - 235 carry

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Tommy Armour 845.  $220.  Ive got an older model, the Tommy Armour Atomic and its an awesome driver.  Forgiving and long.

"I suppose its better to be a master of 7 than to be vaguely familiar with 14." - Chick Evans

Whats in my Sun Mountain 2.5+ stand bag?

Woods: Tommy Armour Atomic 10.5* 

Irons: Mizuno MP Fli-Hi 21* and Mizuno T-Zoid True 5, 7 and 9-irons

Wedge: Mizuno S18 Blue Ion 54*

Putter: Mizuno Bettinardi A-02

Ball: Maxfli Tour X

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11 minutes ago, 03trdblack said:

Still hard to find this under $200

i hit the absolute lotto and grabbed a G400 LST head for 75, then paired it with an atmos black shaft for 100. 

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Second the G400. I’m still playing this driver 3 years later. (This in an eternity for me).




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Driver -   :srixon-small: ZX 7 9.5° Ventus VeloCore Blue S
Fairway -  Tour Edge Exotics CB2 15° Grafalloy Prolite 35  S

Fairway - Tour Edge Exotics CB2 18° Grafalloy Prolite 35  S

Hybrid - :srixon-small: ZX 18° GD Tour IZ S

2 Iron - :srixon-small: ZU65 18° AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S

Irons -  :srixon-small: ZX7  Aerotech SteelFiber 110icw  4-Pw 1° flat
Wedges - :cleveland-small: RTX Zipcore Raw 50° 54° 58°  TTGDTI S400 1° flat

Putters -   Cameron Phantom 5x/Odyssey Toulon Stroke Lab Austin/Odyssey 2 Ball DFX/ TaylorMade Spider
Tour Black/Ping Anser F/Scotty Cameron TeI3 Sole Stamp Newport 2. All with different grips, weights, and lengths.
 

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I have g400 max and love it. But it is hard to pick a driver without actually hitting it and seeing how it performs. Too many options that can provide a variety of results.

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Driver:  :ping-small: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven
Fairway: :titelist-small: TS3 15* set  to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke
Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
                :titelist-small: 915H  21*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
               :titelist-small: 915H 24*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
Irons:      :honma:TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite
Wedge:  :cleveland-small: 588 54-14, 58-12
Putter:  :taylormade-small:TM-180

Backups:  :bobby-grace-1: 6330,   :EVNROLL: ER2.2,  

 

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As much of a "fanboy" of Maltby as I am, I'd have to nudge you toward the G400 just because I've hit it in the past and it lives up to ALL claims and hype. and like @cnosil pointed out, you would want to try and hit one to see how it performs and which model is best for your swing.. Or take the anti-Reading Rainbow approach and just "take our word for it" (that reference might be way right field OB 😜). At this point you should probably be able to find one nearly new for your price. 

That said, @Popeye64 did a very informative comparison between the KE4 TC and TM SIM and from my recollection, the KE4 nearly wiped the floor with the SIM. I Play the SIM Max and love it so that might be something to throw into the hat for consideration..? 

 

Good luck man. Let us know what you end up with! 

 

 

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post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411_thumb.jpg  TSW 50/6 + 56/12 Wedge 
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The Ping will mitigate spin but honestly 2700 rpm is not that big an issue.

Since you won’t be able to get fit I’d go with the most adjustable one that you can find in your price range.

Also once you get it try and check whether shaft length is partially responsible for your inconsistently - It’s easy enough to see where you are contacting the ball on the face of a Ping Driver. If a pattern emerges on your club face you may see that taking 1/2 off or finding a shaft that’s 1/2 longer is a potential nudge in the consistency direction,

Good luck and let us know what you choose. I moved from the G400 LST to the 410 plus. Totally regret it but the guy whom I sold the 400 to won’t hear of trading the two so that I can get it back. :(


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Ping G410 - turned down to11.25 degrees, neutral setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex

Ping G410 5-9 wood

Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

SCOR 52,60

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Currently testing Edison wedges to replace SCORS that are wearing out. Also auditions for the 14th spot in the bag.  Current possibilities are a Ping 26 degree hybrid - duplicates the 9 wood or 5 iron but would be used almost exclusively for chipping or Tour Exotics 3 wood simply because you can carry 14 clubs and I might occasionally hit it in certain unusual wind conditions once every four or five rounds. 

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What more can I say.... Look at my signature!  G400 is staying in the bag. Absolute fairway finder and longer than anything else I have owned. The two other guys I normally play with also have G400's in the bag.  

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:ping-small: Driver, G400 11* SR Flex

:taylormade-small: 3 Wood, SLDR  HL 17*  R Flex

:taylormade-small: 5 Wood, SLDR 19* R Flex

:cobra-small: 7 Wood, F6 22.5* R Flex

:Sub70: Irons, 699 Pro's S Flex (5 - AW)

:Sub70:  JB Wedge 56*

:cleveland-small: Wedge, CBX 60*

:odyssey-small: Putter, Marksman Fang 35"

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21 hours ago, JDHolmes said:

Ping g400 max, best driver two years running. Remarkably forgiving, consistent.

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When I tried the max I was getting 3300rpm spin. I can only attribute that to the rear COG that the Max has. 

I am leaning more towards forward COG and/or a stiffer tip shaft than what I have now to lower launch and spin.

I'm not an X flex when I look at my averages. But, the few X flex clubs I have do seem to work well with my "best" swings - usually in the faster range. 

I'm still leaning to the G400 LST, Maltby TC, or even a Taylormade M1/3/5 - probably the M3 due to cost. 

I can't wrap my head around Srixon, Mizuno, Wilson, or Cobra drivers for whatever mental block I have. Titleist seems to hold value well, so I am not sure which 3-5 year old model is the low spin option? 

I have a local big box that I can usually find lots of used options in stock to try before I buy... Just trying to narrow down the options. Who knows, I may end up with a std G400 in X flex at 10.5° turned down to 9.5°? I'm open to playing with it to figure it out. 

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Golf is simple - people are complicated.

5w Taylormade SLDR S 19* - 220yd, Ping G2 5-U - 190-105, Maltby M+ 54* & MG 60* - 95-75, Evnroll ER8, Titleist 816 H1 4h 21*, Maltby 4 Hybrid Iron 24* - 210-200, Callaway XR16 8* - 235 carry

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Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

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Driver:titelist-small: TSi 2 - Graphite Design AD-XC 6S
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:srixon-small: ZX5 5 - PW - Nippon Modus 120 S
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2 hours ago, Buffly said:

When I tried the max I was getting 3300rpm spin. I can only attribute that to the rear COG that the Max has. 

I am leaning more towards forward COG and/or a stiffer tip shaft than what I have now to lower launch and spin.

I'm not an X flex when I look at my averages. But, the few X flex clubs I have do seem to work well with my "best" swings - usually in the faster range. 

I'm still leaning to the G400 LST, Maltby TC, or even a Taylormade M1/3/5 - probably the M3 due to cost. 

I can't wrap my head around Srixon, Mizuno, Wilson, or Cobra drivers for whatever mental block I have. Titleist seems to hold value well, so I am not sure which 3-5 year old model is the low spin option? 

I have a local big box that I can usually find lots of used options in stock to try before I buy... Just trying to narrow down the options. Who knows, I may end up with a std G400 in X flex at 10.5° turned down to 9.5°? I'm open to playing with it to figure it out. 

Mizuno, in my opinion, is worth a look. I bought the ST 190 G due to being able to hit it on a multi company demo day I attended. The rep didn’t have a line, so I thought I’d give it a go. He also had. Trackman set up, which was an opportunity I’d never gotten. Long story short, I bought the driver and it is still in my bag for year three. I picked up a ST200G as a back up and I haven’t put it in play. I had a couple of rounds in the late summer, early fall where I didn’t miss a fairway with my driver. Include that with when I do miss a fairway, it’s by a yard or two and I’m not tempted to go back to Titleist. 
It’s also plenty long. 

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Mizuno ST200 , 18 degrees, Fujikura Ventus Blue 7X

Miura CB 301, 4 iron, Fujikura Ventus 9x

Miura CB 301, 5-PW Nippon Modus 120S

Miura K Grind, 52, 54 and 58, Nippon Modus 130s  hand ground by Usher Golf

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I've owned, played, and sold the TM M4, Epic Rogue, Rogue sub zero, Epic Flash, Cobra F7,8, 9, LTD, Ping G25 and G in the last two years and after owning and playing all of them, I sold everything and kept only the Ping G400 (with project X LZ). (It's hard being a "club-ho" with only one driver)

It's not the longest but is the most consistent and for MY game, thats most important. I've owned as many as 14 drivers at one time, always searching for "that" driver. (Yes, i have a variety of shafts for each brand).

I've hit and/or owned everything on the market and, for me, its the one. The others are good, but consistent distance and in the fairway just makes the game more fun. Hitting 300 and having trees blocking the second shot ot taking a penalty shot in tournament play is not good.

I also recommend quickship on ebay. Ive bought many things from them.





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On 1/22/2021 at 10:27 AM, revkev said:

Good luck and let us know what you choose. I moved from the G400 LST to the 410 plus. Totally regret it but the guy whom I sold the 400 to won’t hear of trading the two so that I can get it back. 😞


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Sorry off topic, but what did you regret about going to the 410 plus?

WITB

G400 10.5 

M2 3HL

Titleist 818 3 and 4 hybrid 

Ping G15 5-gap

Vokey SM7 54 degrees 

Vokey SM6 58 degrees 

Bobby Grace Shiloh putter

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On 1/21/2021 at 11:49 AM, Buffly said:

Hey gentlemen,

I am a poor golfer (oxymoron). Looking into a new-ish big stick, but can't afford anything much over 2 bills (~$200). 

I am currently gaming a Callaway XR16 9.0 with a Project X LZ stiff shaft at stated neutral settings. I struggle with consistently finding the center of the face in part due to droop and in part L.O.F.T. (lack of friggin talent). I have hit some bombs over 300+ yards total, but I flare a few out to the right and high more than I would like. My swing speed is close to 100 +/- 8 mph depending on the day. Also, I think I would benefit from less spin overall because I hover in the 2700rpm range +/- 600rpm (you can 😂 laugh).

I have heard good things about the Maltby KE4 TC and Tour Edge EXS which both seem somewhat affordable new. However, the Ping G400 LST used seems also in my budget. I am planning on a fitting either way to narrow down some specs, so which driver would you like me to check out?

Buffly:

See if you can find a Ping G400 LST with 10.5* loft & regular shaft. Adjust the loft to 11*. Your swing speed of 100  +/- 8 mph doesn't warrant a stiff shaft. Pretty sure you'll be pleasantly surprised with this setup. 

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Taylormade SIM MAX 12* driver

Adams Golf Tight Lies 3 & 5 wood

Callaway Great Big Bertha Hawkeye 7 wood

Top Flite Tiatanium Intimidator 7 wood

Ping G400 6-Pw, UW irons

Taylormade Milled Steel SW

Cleveland RTX-3 LW

Odyssey White Hot XG 2-ball CS putter

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7 hours ago, 57charlie said:

Buffly:

See if you can find a Ping G400 LST with 10.5* loft & regular shaft. Adjust the loft to 11*. Your swing speed of 100  +/- 8 mph doesn't warrant a stiff shaft. Pretty sure you'll be pleasantly surprised with this setup. 

I'll give that a try. I'm going to get fitted regardless of my "thoughts" of what I think I need. 

My experience is that R flex doesn't give me the consistency that S does. I know X flex feels boardy to me unless I swing out of my boots. My last round had 4+ drives of 270-280 and an eagle with a 9.0° and an S flex XR16 driver. 

When I swung R flex the distance was similar to slightly shorter on average. My issue is more of feeling more comfortable with a heavier club in general. Lighter flexes usually also weigh less too. 

Like I said, I will give it a go. 

Golf is simple - people are complicated.

5w Taylormade SLDR S 19* - 220yd, Ping G2 5-U - 190-105, Maltby M+ 54* & MG 60* - 95-75, Evnroll ER8, Titleist 816 H1 4h 21*, Maltby 4 Hybrid Iron 24* - 210-200, Callaway XR16 8* - 235 carry

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On 1/21/2021 at 8:20 PM, Chip Strokes said:

i hit the absolute lotto and grabbed a G400 LST head for 75, then paired it with an atmos black shaft for 100. 

You sicken me.

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14 of the following:

Ping G400 Max

Cobra King F9 Speedback 3 wood

Callaway Big Bertha Heavenwood

Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees

Taylormade M4 5 hybrid

Callaway Mavrik Max 6-GW

PXG 0211 5-GW

PXG 0211 sand wedge bent to 53 degrees

Maltby M Series+ 54 degree

Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree

Ping Sigma 2 Anser

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1 hour ago, Hook DeLoft said:

You sicken me.

i had no idea my wife had a MGS account

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:taylormade-small: SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX
:titelist-small: U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX
:titelist-small: T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7
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