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After my recent trial of the new 2021 drivers, and the trial of the “sledgehammer” that is now in my bag, it was plainly evident that I didn’t get “faster” with a lighter shaft. Robert Head, owner of Xphlexxx shafts, has been making this point with Long Drive competitors for years.

Well, this morning, as I scrolled through Facebook, I see a post by TPI:

“Less than 10% of 1200 golfers tested fastest with the lightest shaft.” Liam Mucklow from The Golf Lab

So, when you go an do your fittings this year, don’t just assume you’ll pick-up speed because you switch from a 70g shaft to a 50g one. As TPI states in the post, robots may show faster, but humans aren’t robots!!!

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Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X

Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X

Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X

Irons:  Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100

Wedges: :edel-golf-1: SMS 50D/54V/58D:Nippon:Modus 130 stiff, +1”

Putter:  :edel-golf-1: EAS 1.0

Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX

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After my recent trial of the new 2021 drivers, and the trial of the “sledgehammer” that is now in my bag, it was plainly evident that I didn’t get “faster” with a lighter shaft. Robert Head, owner of Xphlexxx shafts, has been making this point with Long Drive competitors for years.
Well, this morning, as I scrolled through Facebook, I see a post by TPI:
“Less than 10% of 1200 golfers tested fastest with the lightest shaft.” Liam Mucklow from The Golf Lab
So, when you go an do your fittings this year, don’t just assume you’ll pick-up speed because you switch from a 70g shaft to a 50g one. As TPI states in the post, robots may show faster, but humans aren’t robots!!!
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Very true. So much depends on how you feel the club loading and coming through the impact zone. For plenty of players feeling is lost with lighter setups and you’ll swing slower because you’re not as confident in it.

Side note: I’ll be following along to see how that beast treats you this season!


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I have learned this (lighter shafts don't always equate to increase performance) through trial/error over many years. Spent a small fortune it seems on lighter exotic shafts, club heads only to learn that I have a certain total weight driver and/or shaft weight range which I swing efficiently with consistent swing speed and center contact. 

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I have found this to be true even in doing SuperSpeed work. While my light stick is most often slightly faster than my medium stick, I definitely lose the feel of the lighter club and struggle to sequence things properly for max speed.

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1 hour ago, PMookie said:

After my recent trial of the new 2021 drivers, and the trial of the “sledgehammer” that is now in my bag, it was plainly evident that I didn’t get “faster” with a lighter shaft. Robert Head, owner of Xphlexxx shafts, has been making this point with Long Drive competitors for years.

Well, this morning, as I scrolled through Facebook, I see a post by TPI:

“Less than 10% of 1200 golfers tested fastest with the lightest shaft.” Liam Mucklow from The Golf Lab

So, when you go an do your fittings this year, don’t just assume you’ll pick-up speed because you switch from a 70g shaft to a 50g one. As TPI states in the post, robots may show faster, but humans aren’t robots!!!

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I recall this trend in the 90s. Make everything lighter. People were hitting the ball all over with no control. Then playing a 7 degree driver because the shafts had so much whip and high torque the ball launched far too high. I just remember caddying for these 35 year old guys with R flex 55 gram shafts and just hitting drop kicked hooks and fades all over.

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24 minutes ago, Lacassem said:

Facebook is listening and watching your purchases! 😂

Amazing the data out there and how this works

Funny how my Google suggested  searches all include some weight component! Hahahaha! Alexa is listening for sure!

Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X

Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X

Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X

Irons:  Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100

Wedges: :edel-golf-1: SMS 50D/54V/58D:Nippon:Modus 130 stiff, +1”

Putter:  :edel-golf-1: EAS 1.0

Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX

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What's old is new again!

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  • Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X
  • TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X
  • Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X
  • Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X
  • PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100
  • Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60  Nippon Modus 3 120s
  • L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5*
  • Srixon Z-Star XV 

Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges…

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/

Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/

 

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43 minutes ago, bens197 said:

What's old is new again!

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I had a Goldwin Milled driver! Like this one below, but no black on it.

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Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X

Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X

Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X

Irons:  Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100

Wedges: :edel-golf-1: SMS 50D/54V/58D:Nippon:Modus 130 stiff, +1”

Putter:  :edel-golf-1: EAS 1.0

Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX

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7 minutes ago, PMookie said:

I had a Goldwin Milled driver! Like this one below, but no black on it.

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Bad mamma jamma right there...

  • Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X
  • TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X
  • Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X
  • Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X
  • PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100
  • Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60  Nippon Modus 3 120s
  • L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5*
  • Srixon Z-Star XV 

Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges…

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/

Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/

 

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12 minutes ago, bens197 said:

Bad mamma jamma right there...

Great driver. I wish I still had it to screw around with. Such a different feel to it.

Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X

Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X

Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X

Irons:  Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100

Wedges: :edel-golf-1: SMS 50D/54V/58D:Nippon:Modus 130 stiff, +1”

Putter:  :edel-golf-1: EAS 1.0

Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX

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18 minutes ago, PMookie said:

Great driver. I wish I still had it to screw around with. Such a different feel to it.

I'm sure you also hit the irons...I like the idea behind it for a certain demographic.  Ping did a similar move with higher swing weight irons for seniors and ladies with their G series a few years back.  

To get back on track, the message here is good.  As a Lot of guys already mentioned, find the weight that works with your mechanics.  

  • Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X
  • TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X
  • Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X
  • Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X
  • PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100
  • Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60  Nippon Modus 3 120s
  • L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5*
  • Srixon Z-Star XV 

Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges…

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/

Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/

 

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Makes me think of this TXG video. Ian puts Matt through a blind test of varying swing weights and total weights. It’s a good watch if you haven’t seen it!

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