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  1. 1. Are you in favor of the rollback?

    • Yes
      81
    • No
      400
    • Don't Care
      103
  2. 2. Do you watch or care about the PGA Tour and other professional Tours?

    • Yes
      529
    • No
      21
    • Don't Care
      34
  3. 3. Do you wish there was a Tour Only golf ball?

    • Yes
      200
    • No
      237
    • Don't Care
      147
  4. 4. Do you want to play all the same equipment like the pros play?

    • Yes
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    • No
      143
    • Don't Care
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  5. 5. Do you feel your game will be dramatically effected by the rollback in 2030?

    • Yes
      230
    • No
      240
    • Don't know
      114
  6. 6. Will loosing any distance take away significant enjoyment in golfing for you?

    • Yes
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    • No
      158
    • Probably not
      126
  7. 7. Would you quit golf because of the rollback?

    • Yes
      25
    • No
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  8. 8. Would you prefer bifurcation?

    • Yes
      268
    • No
      202
    • Don't Care
      114
  9. 9. Is this all too early and we need to wait and see what more will happen over the next few years?

    • Definitely
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    • No, this needs to be addressed now
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    • Don't care
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Lots of information out there and still lots of uncertainty. For everyone please remember this will (reportedly) come into effect 6 years from now. 

There is a lot to speculate on, but also let's just remember there has been no official statement as of yet on this. 

Everyone can feel or say how they feel one way or another but we still don't know 100% what will be announced. 

When there is we all will have a far clearer view one what the future of golf looks like how we will be effected one way or another.

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IF this happens in 6 years and IF I am still on this side of the grass and IF I can still swing a club and IF I know why I am swinging the club…. I will deal with it then.

Edited to add….. Could it be that a golf version of sorts that emulates Pickle Ball will be created or evolve?? 

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11 minutes ago, LICC said:

All distances, top, middle, and bottom on all professional tours have increased over recent and longer term periods. The facts are clear for those who look at them. 

I think the ability to dial in a swing and contact create more distance.  Technology has allowed players to figure out the best way of making contact.  

Club manufacturers vary lofts within a line to "create more distance" 

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16 hours ago, LICC said:

DJ did that with a modern ball. Maybe the top 5% or so would hit it over 300, but most players would not.

Only opened and replying because unfortunately ignored posts get shown in replies.

Of course he did, it’s what’s available and if there was an equipment rollback it’s what he and everyone else would be using to play with. So it’s a relevant point that even with an ill fitted club the pros aren’t going to be giving up distance with a smaller head.

 

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9 hours ago, storm319 said:

The USGA rolled back the ball in the 1930s by lowering the max weight and increasing the minimum diameter but the R&A chose to stick with the status quo at the time. This was so unpopular that the USGA reversed course a few years later on the weight max but retained the larger diameter. The R&A finally aligned with the USGA on this item in the 1970s for their championships and globally starting in 1990 which began the only period in history with a global unified set of rules (until the USGA screwed that up with the groove rollback).

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15 hours ago, cnosil said:

Read this on Twitter/X; it was a post from Michael Breed and I personally cannot confirm that it is accurate since I haven't seen any of the data:

 

Going to add onto this with another tweet from Mr Breed

There is going to be a loss of distance the the bag so that possible 1 club more into a green by losing 7-11 yards now becomes 2 clubs as your woods, hybrids, irons, wedges will all lose distance 

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Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

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Irons:   :titleist-small: T Series - T200 5 Iron
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3 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Lots of information out there and still lots of uncertainty. For everyone please remember this will (reportedly) come into effect 6 years from now. 

There is a lot to speculate on, but also let's just remember there has been no official statement as of yet on this. 

Everyone can feel or say how they feel one way or another but we still don't know 100% what will be announced. 

When there is we all will have a far clearer view one what the future of golf looks like how we will be effected one way or another.

 

... I have heard from reliable sources (don't ya love that statement?) that the difference will be 3-4 yds for the average golfer. Others equally reliable say 7-11yds. And of course unsaid is if you aren't hitting the center of the club face it may be no yards. I have played with so many that hit that one big drive and wonder why they can't repeat it and I just don't have the heart to tell them "You hit the center of the face for once. Did you notice how straight and how high you hit that drive that sounded different than any of your others?" 

... Along the lines of what you said, here is what we know. Nothing. Maybe the tar can be cooled and the feathers stored in the barn until we get something concrete. And even then it will take time to shake out. I certainly expect to see videos proving the new ball goes much shorter and/or isn't all that much shorter and/or is the same distance under certain circumstances. I'd say ya ca't make this stuff up but we all know you can manipulate numbers to show whatever you want. 

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12 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

... I have heard from reliable sources (don't ya love that statement?) that the difference will be 3-4 yds for the average golfer. Others equally reliable say 7-11yds. And of course unsaid is if you aren't hitting the center of the club face it may be no yards. I have played with so many that hit that one big drive and wonder why they can't repeat it and I just don't have the heart to tell them "You hit the center of the face for once. Did you notice how straight and how high you hit that drive that sounded different than any of your others?" 

... Along the lines of what you said, here is what we know. Nothing. Maybe the tar can be cooled and the feathers stored in the barn until we get something concrete. And even then it will take time to shake out. I certainly expect to see videos proving the new ball goes much shorter and/or isn't all that much shorter and/or is the same distance under certain circumstances. I'd say ya ca't make this stuff up but we all know you can manipulate numbers to show whatever you want. 

If this is in fact true then I would support Rory's sentiment. If my max drive is going to be impacted by 5-10 yards, and everything else will be negligible, then I will truly feel no impact in my game. My best drives will carry 280-290 and that is perhaps 5% of the drives I hit. The rollout after that is impacted by so many factors that the final distance can be anywhere from 285-320. The only people who will likely notice this change will be the statisticians who collect data for a living. Hence the reason Lou Stagner is losing his mind right now. Average Joe's like use might see it in approach shots when our irons change by a few yards on average but I really doubt I will notice anything significant in my drives. Not saying this is a good thing, but it's the main reason I really don't see my game being significantly impacted. I guess it will give me another excuse to add to my arsenal when my shots on par 3's come up short. 😎

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15 minutes ago, Preeway said:

If this is in fact true then I would support Rory's sentiment. If my max drive is going to be impacted by 5-10 yards, and everything else will be negligible, then I will truly feel no impact in my game. My best drives will carry 280-290 and that is perhaps 5% of the drives I hit. The rollout after that is impacted by so many factors that the final distance can be anywhere from 285-320. The only people who will likely notice this change will be the statisticians who collect data for a living. Hence the reason Lou Stagner is losing his mind right now. Average Joe's like use might see it in approach shots when our irons change by a few yards on average but I really doubt I will notice anything significant in my drives. Not saying this is a good thing, but it's the main reason I really don't see my game being significantly impacted. I guess it will give me another excuse to add to my arsenal when my shots on par 3's come up short. 😎

Loss of distance on irons won’t be neglible if you are losing 5% on driver. It’s going to be very similar percentage on the rest of the bag. Also if you read the article from mgs it’s going to impact everyone and thru the bag

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Anyone else really curious how it could be effected when putting?

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4 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Anyone else really curious how it could be effected when putting?

 

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Just now, chisag said:

 

Putting:

1. Speed
2. Line
3. Confidence
4. Grain
5. Stroke
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101. Different ball

Agree completely, but we all know how much golfers overthink these things. I mean if everyone is expecting 5% difference on full shots I wonder how many will think they should hit the ball harder on the greens. 

More just trying to poll some different thoughts from members on a portion which hasn't been discussed. 

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So a question I have. I know others don't see distance loss with Kirklands but I did (about a club). Would that make them legal under the new regulations? 

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1 minute ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Agree completely, but we all know how much golfers overthink these things. I mean if everyone is expecting 5% difference on full shots I wonder how many will think they should hit the ball harder on the greens. 

More just trying to poll some different thoughts from members on a portion which hasn't been discussed. 

 

... I get it, golfers and especially forum golfers can agonize over quite a few elements of putting they have nothing to do with making or missing putts. 

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13 hours ago, storm319 said:

All of those tour issue balls are subject to the same regulations as what is sold at retail, so no that is not bifurcation.

We have also seen more than a couple of those tour issue balls ultimately make it into the retail space like the left dash and left dot options from Titleist 

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9 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

... I get it, golfers and especially forum golfers can agonize over quite a few elements of putting they have nothing to do with making or missing putts. 

But maybe you hit on something which we can bank on in 6 years! I missed the putt, but it is because the ball is shorter! We will all have a new excuse to use!

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16 minutes ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

So a question I have. I know others don't see distance loss with Kirklands but I did (about a club). Would that make them legal under the new regulations? 

As I understand it there isn’t a ball on the market that is compliant.

And based on what Breed posted on X that the titleist professional from 1995 isn’t compliant either would indicate the Kirklands arent

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Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

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Just getting caught back up on this thread.  I was out playing golf...

 

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5 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

But maybe you hit on something which we can bank on in 6 years! I missed the putt, but it is because the ball is shorter! We will all have a new excuse to use!

Only concern I have is sound/feel. The type of ball makes no difference. It’s not much different than adjusting to green speeds. I can adjust very quickly on course

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Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

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20 minutes ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

So a question I have. I know others don't see distance loss with Kirklands but I did (about a club). Would that make them legal under the new regulations? 

I posted the testing protocol yesterday.  The basic answer to your question is no.   
 

the testing protocol uses a robot to deliver consistent strikes in the center of the face and set up the club to launch the ball at a certain launch angle and spin rate with the club head traveling at 125ish MPh.  Under those conditions the ball can’t go over 317 yards.   So how the ball spins for you is irrelevant for conformance.   

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29 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Anyone else really curious how it could be effected when putting?

I suppose I will have to wait and see what the R&D engineers come up with, will they be softer, harder covers etc. etc. not just putting but their reaction off the club face for chips, bump and runs etc, etc, all the nuances of short game. 

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26 minutes ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

So a question I have. I know others don't see distance loss with Kirklands but I did (about a club). Would that make them legal under the new regulations? 

went back and found the link to the testing protocol   https://golfweek.usatoday.com/lists/how-does-usga-ra-test-golf-balls-rollback/
 

 

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1 hour ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Anyone else really curious how it could be effected when putting?

I'm going with the working assumption that we'd lose 5% of distance as well 😎

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4 Wood:  callaway.png.e65d398fb0327017a369499fc6126064.png Rogue ST Max 16.5, Tensei White Shaft - 7S
Utility Iron: mizunopro.png.90cc4fb9895830e28063d9a5be416145.png Fli Hi 3-iron, HAZARDOUS Smoke Black Shaft - S
Irons:  mizuno.png.f0e7b21135cb6273b3c1430866904467.png JPX 921 Tour 4-P, Project X Shafts - Stiff 125g
Wedges: cleveland.png.f21f4d2361520fdf1bbd9d515a2f11e6.png 52º, 56º, 60º
Putter:  odyssey.png.58c727e37eb7efda62bce4f7b8881bd9.png Ai-One 7 T CH, 34"
Preferred Ball: srixon.png.f177578dda27a20ef80a0a8b1ae96e3b.png Z-Star Diamond
Pushcart: bagboy.jpg.0dda53b5175958e1b5686f22b90af744.jpg Nitron
Rangefinder: bushnell.jpg.c51debd06066fa243dea7f14d69a8dba.jpg Tour V5 Shift

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1 hour ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Anyone else really curious how it could be effected when putting?

I’ve thought about it. There  should not be much impact. I can’t ever recall hitting a putter as far as I was able - sober….:)

Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60  Aldila  R flex   - 42.25 inches 

SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft

Ping G410 7, 9 wood  Alta 65 R flex

Srixon ZX5 MK II  5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex

India 52,56 (60 pending)  UST recoil 75's R flex  

Evon roll ER 5 32 inches

It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD   

 

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I understand the thought behind the need for a rollback as space (real-estate) is simply limited in many courses (my home course included) and simply can't get any longer.  As to bifurcation, I see some of the logic to a single ball rule for all as that removes most (but not all) of the doubt that the ball in play is legal.   

Tim

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Driver: Titleist TSi3
Woods: Callaway 
Irons Mizuno JPX900 Forged (4-pw)
Wedges: Mizuno T-22 (60, 56, 50)
Putter: Mizuno OMOI 01
Ball: TaylorMade TP5x - winter/leaf ball Seed SD-02)

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For all those nay sayers about different balls for tour players and what is sold in stores, please read the following article from Titleist website on the ProV1x left dash.

https://www.titleist.com/teamtitleist/b/tourblog/posts/3-things-you-need-to-know-about-pro-v1x-left-dash

Now tell me pros don’t have access to golf balls different than amateur golfers. 

Marketing is a wonderful thing. 

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4 hours ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

So a question I have. I know others don't see distance loss with Kirklands but I did (about a club). Would that make them legal under the new regulations? 

Cannot answer your question Randy.  I gave up on Kirklands due to their higher than average spin.  All I can say is they can take my Velocity balls from my cold, dead hands 😊.

2 hours ago, GaryOhio said:

Maybe changing the ball is a good idea.

Maybe for tour players, not for amateurs.  There is no distance problem at the amateur level, so there is no need to fix a problem that does not exist for 99% of the golfers around the world.  It simply makes no sense.

I'm going to climb out on a limb here and estimate that at least 80% of amateur golfers do not support a rollback of balls or clubs for their use.  Maybe the USGA needs a wake-up call in the form of a boycott.  

 

 

 

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:ping-small: G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w

:ping-small: G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w

:srixon-small:  ZX5 Irons 4-AW 

:ping-small: Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW   (removed from double secret probation 😍)

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50 minutes ago, SmutzGump said:

I understand the thought behind the need for a rollback as space (real-estate) is simply limited in many courses (my home course included) and simply can't get any longer.  As to bifurcation, I see some of the logic to a single ball rule for all as that removes most (but not all) of the doubt that the ball in play is legal.   

Amateurs aren’t over powering golf curses and there is no need to add length because of how far pros are hitting the ball. Theres enough information out there from organizations like NGF that show courses aren’t adding length as gets talked about and some of the courses that added distance added more in the 70-80s than they have in the last 2 decades 

19 minutes ago, jak29672 said:

For all those nay sayers about different balls for tour players and what is sold in stores, please read the following article from Titleist website on the ProV1x left dash.

https://www.titleist.com/teamtitleist/b/tourblog/posts/3-things-you-need-to-know-about-pro-v1x-left-dash

Now tell me pros don’t have access to golf balls different than amateur golfers. 

Marketing is a wonderful thing. 

Still not bifurcarion and the ball has to meet the same specs as what’s at retail. 

but if you want the left dash you can buy it at retail including from the titleist website

https://www.titleist.com/product/pro-v1x-left-dash/001PVLD.html

Or

from DSG

https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/titleist-pro-v1x-left-dash-golf-balls-20ttlu2019prv1xlfgbl/20ttlu2019prv1xlfgbl

andmif you go back a few pages you will se someone posted that from their trusted contacts who have tour access the pros are playing the same version at retail

I could make a putter that is for me only and nobody else including a pro could get access too. Still doesn’t mean it’s bifurcated

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Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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