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1 minute ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Roger might be the only one that could. I’ve read interviews and heard the reps from TM say he told them his lifts were off by 1/2* and they were all like this guy is high and the specs are fine, but they took them to the machine and sure enough they were 1/2* off. He’s done so with other aspects of a club that has had the club guys shaking their head at what he can feel and how accurate his feedback is

Loft? Totally see that. That’s yardage. He’s hit millions of shots. He knows how far his shot should go, its height, spin, etc. But puring is not loft/lie/or length....

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Some people say there is something to flo’ing/PUREing a shaft. Some say there is nothing to it. The cost of $20 a shaft may be cheap to some and deal breakers to others.

Either way I haven’t heard of anyone saying it made their clubs worse. If someone offered to do it to my clubs for free I would do it without question.

I’d love to do a head to head comparison to see if there is any performance benefit.

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4 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Some people say there is something to flo’ing/PUREing a shaft. Some say there is nothing to it. The cost of $20 a shaft may be cheap to some and deal breakers to others.

Either way I haven’t heard of anyone saying it made their clubs worse. If someone offered to do it to my clubs for free I would do it without question.

I’d love to do a head to head comparison to see if there is any performance benefit.

TXG did a video. Joe linked it above. No measurable difference. No study yet has shown “statistical significance”, but I’m sure Pros who have it done for free see it the same way: can’t hurt. I agree with this, but if I’m paying, you gotta prove to me, statistically, that I benefit.

I have had one maker of clubs tell me face-to-face it’s BS, two shaft manufacturers, one shaft reviewer/tester, and three customer service reps from major OEMs all say the same thing. Again, to your point, it doesn’t hurt... Except the pocket book. 😂

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Driver: :cobra-small: King F9 Speedback, Xphlexxx Busa 2 Liquid, XX stiff, 45”

Fwy:  :callaway-small: Super Hybrid 17*, Aldila RIP Alpha 105 S, tipped 1”

Hybrid: :callaway-small: X2 Hot Pro, 20*, Graphite Design Tour AD-DI 105X

Irons: :honma:TR20 Tour P 4-10, :Nippon: Modus 130 stiff, +1”

Wedges: Vega VW-06 50*/54*/58*, Dynamic Gold S400

Putter:  :edel-golf-1: EAS 1.0

All clubs have :Arccos:  In the Winn Dri-Tac 2.0 Oversize grips

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TXG did a video. Joe linked it above. No measurable difference. No study yet has shown “statistical significance”, but I’m sure Pros who have it done for free see it the same way: can’t hurt. I agree with this, but if I’m paying, you gotta prove to me, statistically, that I benefit.
I have had one maker of clubs tell me face-to-face it’s BS, two shaft manufacturers, one shaft reviewer/tester, and three customer service reps from major OEMs all say the same thing. Again, to your point, it doesn’t hurt... Except the pocket book. [emoji23]

I saw the TXG video and I am in the doubter corner, but I’d like to see how it works with someone that struggles with face contact. I want to do my own comparison.
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29 minutes ago, cnosil said:


I saw the TXG video and I am in the doubter corner, but I’d like to see how it works with someone that struggles with face contact. I want to do my own comparison.

Based on what Sasho Mackenzie saw, it might be worse for more inconsistent swingers.  The more the direction of forces on the shaft change throughout the swing, the less  aligning the spin will impact anything. 

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I have heard stories, don't remember where I heard it, about people having a set of irons, but one or two clubs in the bag always gave them trouble when compared to the relativity of their other irons. 

Somewhere in the story something ended up being either out of spec in some fashion that was measurable. It could have been swing weight caused by inconsistent shaft weight on an assembly line. It could have been an aggressive spine that bent weird. The reality was that greater care in assembly to ensure consistency and repeatability was needed. Whether someone pays for spine aligning, FLO, or SST Pure it would seem that greater attention to detail would follow. 

I watched a video recently of a gentleman club builder demonstrating FLO of a shaft. He mentioned that once the Flat Line Oscillation axis was found that the rules of golf state it would be a breach to install the club head so as to create a fade or draw bias. I found it fascinating that assembly of the club is regulated so rigorously for the pros. At the same time, if the USGA sees a possibility for an unfair advantage to how the shaft is installed then I can't ignore that it matters. 

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I want my customers to play their BEST so no excuses on the equipment.  I will spine (also called pure) all shafts to 9 o'clock to hit the ball straight even if its not a good swing.  And I do not charge extra for this service!  If the player is good enough to work the ball then I will spine the shafts to 12 o'clock.  I will also flow-weight a set of iron shafts for a custom iron set at no extra charge.  I weigh every grip, shaft, and head as it arrives out of the shipping box.  And give the customer specs of each component and the finished product of every custom club I make.

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On 2/16/2021 at 11:08 AM, Buffly said:

It's not just Tiger, and these people are customers, not endorsers:

Abraham Ancer

Dawson Armstrong

Jamie Arnold

Ricky Barnes

Daniel Berger

Wesley Bryan

Sam Burns

Cameron Champ

KJ Choi

Chad Collins

Fred Couples

John Daly

Cameron Davis

Bryson DeChambeau

Roberto Diaz

Jason Dufner

Ernie Els

Julian Etulain

 

Derek Fathauer

Zach Fisher

Rickie Fowler

Brice Garnett

Brian Gay

Lucas Glover

Fabian Gomez

Cody Gribble

Padraig Harrington

Jim Herman

Charley Hoffman

Tom Hoge

Lee Janzen

Dustin Johnson

Sung Kang

Matt Kuchar

Martin Laird

 

Nate Lashley

Danny Lee

Luke List

Will MacKenzie

Hideki Matsuyama

Graeme McDowell

Keith Mitchell

Grayson Murray

Dan Olsen

Ryan Palmer

Rod Pampling

Pat Perez

Kenny Perry

Rod Perry

Paul Peterson

Ted Potter, Jr

Fran Quinn

 

Chez Reavie

Justin Rose

Scottie Scheffler

Adam Schenk

Vijay Singh

Brandt Snedeker

Scott Stallings

Kyle Stanley

Shawn Stefani

Robert Streb

Chris Stroud

Justin Thomas

Martin Trainer

Harold Varner III

Lanny Wadkins

Johnson Wagner

Garrett Willis

Gary Woodland

Tiger Woods

(From SstPure 2019 on tour list http://sstpure.com/pro-players/ )

And not one of them pays to have it done. If someone wants to do mine for free, i'd let them.

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Someone may have answered this before. But in your experience…@pineneedlespro

How often do you find the driver shaft spine not factory set at 12 or 9 o’clock when it’s top is set up originally to OEM standard?  Is it off by a lot?  Aren’t shafts designed to be fairly consistent in terms of spine?

Just curious. 

I am impressed that you offer this for free. I have found that everyone charges for it. That’s great customer service. 

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